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  • Using the bible to prove the bible...again! Do you not know any new tricks?

  • Look at the evidence. Millions of pieces of 98% pure sulfer cover the ashen remains of two cities known as SODOM and GOMORRAH. This sulfur does not occur naturally any place on earth, and is more than twice as pure as any that comes from volcanic erruptions. Known as brimstone the sulfur covers these former cities where the stone has been proven to have reached over 5000 degrees fahrenheit. This is not some ancient mystery only thanks to the written word of GOD.

  • @snatchUfromfire "Look at the evidence"? See, that's what trips up the creationist. People do look at the evidence. All of the evidence, and they examine it critically, which is something people like you are loathe to do. The critical thinker goes where the data tells them, irregardless of religious dogma. That's called integrity. Creationists generally aren't familiar with the term. And for the record, we're discussing Noah here, not Sodom et al. One myth at a time, please.

  • @NorthForkFisherman Only through critical analysis of sites such as Noah's Ark and Sodom and Gomorrah do we find proof of the accounts of the bible. This critical examination of ALL the evidence concludes them to be impossible natural occurrences. The data in truth takes you outside explanation- when you live under the idea that God did not create life on earth. However, this data does logically support the accounts of the Holy Bible.

  • @snatchUfromfire From an examination of the sedimentary layers alone, the heat that is required in accordance with a literal reading of Genesis directly rules out the Noachian Flood. Too much heat, too little time. And we've not even considered the heat input of flood basalts nor impact events. Simply put, all that heat in 1 year = a cinder of a planet. Just simply chemistry, physics, and math FTW.

  • @NorthForkFisherman "literal reading of Genesis" 8:3 tells us that the waters had abated after 150 days, not 365. Proof of flooding?? "The answer is found in a careful evaluation of the several minerals whose crystals align themselves with the magnetic north during their forma­tion--example magnetite. These crystals show that our planet changed its alignment a minimum of six times in rapid succession. What would be the effect of such action upon the pre-flood earth?" FLOODING

  • There is a 500ft petrified man made boat in Turkey along with the huge anchor stones. There are ancient chariot remains on the sea floor from one side of the Red Sea to another, in a very particular place. These remains were only discovered by a very keen knowledge of the OT and help from God. There is no possible logical explanation for these remains if you believe the exodus never took place, you must see the importance- they are literally where the OT says they should be.

  • You cannot poke holes in fact with speculation. But you can live forever. Watch the segments of Revealing God's Treasure available. Those who dispute these finds are the real storytellers. The Evil in this world has you, yet you are not aware. Once you put time and effort into knowing Jesus (who lives and gives guidance to this day) it is clear that the written word of God is truth. The gate is narrow so be ready for your world to be turned on end.

  • Ezekiel 37 seems to talk more about an army of friggin zombies invading the streets of Israel to me. It says "and i will open your graves and raise you from them and bring you back to the land of Israel". Sounds like zombies to me. Anyone agree?

  • @atheistjacob Well, there was the zombie uprising of CE 33 to contend with. Patient Zero was some poor bastard named Lazarus if memory serves. Seems this Jesus character was the carrier of the virus until he was executed and then became an active zombie himself.

  • @NorthForkFisherman I like that. That's funny.

  • @snatchUfromfire AT WHAT? Damn, like blowflies on a corpse, these creationists are. Are you talking about that hogback in Turkey? And those so called "anchor stones"? All cut from the local rock. Be an ignorant twit if you so desire, but don't expect the rest of us to be so damn dumb. Noah's ark is disproved with the critical examination of just on rock formation. Happy New Year.

  • @NorthForkFisherman Thank you for responding. What do you mean by "Noah's ark is disproved with the critical examination of just on rock formation." The site is a petrified boat, not because I am "so damn dumb" but because educated experts that study ancient boats identify it as such.

  • @snatchUfromfire "What do you mean?" Sorry for the misspelling. That is "just one rock formation". The chemical composition of this one formation has a very distinct signature. This directly indicates the conditions of it's formation, and the physics and chemistry behind that directly rule out any global flood. And no, it's not a vessel, it's a hogback.

  • @NorthForkFisherman Sections of the vessel prove to be petrified cypress wood containing no growth rings, as all other pre-flood wood analysis does substantiate. The chemical composition of the vessel you refer to as a "hogback" clearly determines it was in fact wood. Flood geology actually describes the evidence uncovered by the examination of the earth and it's formations MORE ADAQUATLY than the elaborate theories accepted by the world.

  • @snatchUfromfire "no growth rings,"? Then it's not wood. And certainly not cypress. You are aware that we do have cores from trees over 9kyo? And fully anchored chronologies going back in excess of 10k? In any event, are you familiar with the term "citation needed"? Let's deal with the facts. The chemistry of the rock layers of the earth directly rule out a global flood because a great many of them are exothermic in nature. (continued)

  • @NorthForkFisherman You cannot deny the chemical composition of petrefied wood because you cant see growth rings. It is a known quandry however, why such wood is without such rings. Genesis 2:6 tells us plainly that there was no rain--that a mist went up and watered the whole face of the earth. Are not growth rings the result of a variance in water supply and seasonal temperature changes in trees and other vegetation?

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  • @snatchUfromfire Let's deal with these fallacies one at a time: "there was no rain--that a mist went up and watered the whole face of the earth." False - Fossil raindrop impressions are found as far back as the Proterozoic. These directly rule out a flood (a high-energy event) because their creation requires slow deposition and calm conditions else they would be swept away. Same goes for frost features and dessication cracks from that same age.

  • @NorthForkFisherman "found as far back as the Proterozoic" As if unsure, give a sample from a 20 year old lava dome to a so called scientist and obtain a story that the date of its formation was 350,000 - 2.8 million B.C. Testable, repeatable science shows that the accepted dating methods used to validate your concept are grossly inaccurate.

  • @snatchUfromfire Actually, you're talking about xenolith contamination, which is understood, and corrected for by obtaining a clean sample. But this is not addressing the matter at hand now is it? When faced with real data, YECers/IDiots try to change the subject away from where their getting whupped with real facts. So, how about those raindrops? Can you refute them or no? I mean, this has been part of Historical Geology textbooks since 1933. Are you that out of touch? Miss the memo, duckling?

  • @NorthForkFisherman No I'm talking about your fossil rain drop impressions, they aren't 1200 million years old. I don't agree with the flawed theories associated with such conjecture as they are routinely proven inaccurate. YOUR TEXTBOOK IS CONJECTURE try to understand that before you rely so heavily on it.

  • @snatchUfromfire All I've seen thus far is your opinion. I think the phrase here is, "citation needed". And do try to keep on subject. We're talking a non-existent flood, hon. These fossil raindrops disprove such an event by their simple existence. And the best part, impressions like these are found through out the rock record, along with fusain. Now for the kicker - it was creationists who found all this - disproving their own myth! The irony is delicious.

  • @NorthForkFisherman "Woe to those who put bitter for sweet" comes to mind. Your stance on false assumptions to "support" your claim to the age of these fossils is the best part and failure to recognize the gross misrepresentation of post flood strata is the kicker. It is therefore my basic assumption that the stratified sedimentary layers known as the geological column have been misinterpreted by modern science, and are instead a rather obvious testament of the worldwide catastrophe, or flood.ty

  • @snatchUfromfire Do you even know what fusain is? It's charcoal. Being that it's buried in many layers deep in the rock record it directly falsifies the y flood as well. Or do you contend that fire burns underwater? Given your ability to defend a point thus far, I'll bet that you would believe that. The drop imprints disprove the flood - they require calm conditions, the fusain disproves the flood - fire doesn't burn underwater. And finally, heat falsifies the flood.

  • @NorthForkFisherman The "rock record" IS flood laid strata. Heat?? Remember the magnetite? While the earth was "shaken out place", with all the water on the surface, the hydraulic forces swept all of the soil, stones and minerals violently into a churning suspen­sion...

  • @snatchUfromfire ...The radio isotopic minerals sought the lowest stratigraphic level in the redispositioned flood debris. As these radio isotopic minerals approached critical mass in their clump­ing process, they generated intense heat--several times hotter than that of the sun. This process, enhanced by the confining over-burden of flood debris, resulted in the thermal vitrification of trillions of cubic yards of magma. So yeah it was HOT

  • @snatchUfromfire Damn, you really don't get it do you? That heat just doesn't go away...it goes into the environment! By your own words you've just falsified the flood. BWHAHAHAH! That's the funniest crap I've seen in a while! You're trying disprove the facts so hard that you disprove your own damn mythology. I'm saving this conversation share and savor with every other skeptic that I can find. This is just effing creatard GOLD!

  • @NorthForkFisherman Please share! I'm not trying to disprove any fact, only correcting someone under false impressions with the intention of pointing out truth for his own benefit. ty

  • @snatchUfromfire Oh now please, this really is just priceless. You've just indicated that the Earth was turned to a cinder......I'm still busting a gut over your utter cluelessness in basic science. Was the ark a spacship? Is Ararat another planet? PLEASE continue! This is utter GOLD!

  • @NorthForkFisherman Earth was turned to a cinder? Obviously not as I live on it. Once again you fail to poke holes in fact with your speculation. Not a spaceship lol, the ark was a 500ft boat used to survive the flood in question and its remains can be viewed today. You may continue to devour gut busting lies, but my hope is for you to look at the evidence- apart from conjecture. Evolutionists cling to the idea that there can't be a Creator -- so they may do as they PLEASE.

  • @snatchUfromfire And again, still parroting BS and not understanding it. You say that all these exothermic events happened during the "flood-year" and you don't understand what the result of all that heat is - a schorched cinder of a planet. These events did happen in the course of the Earth's existence - but over a far, far longer time period. This allows the heat to escape into the environment and then into space at a rate that doesn't cook the biosphere.

  • @NorthForkFisherman 150 days. You have a flawed concept of flood geology. Any calculation based on a 365 day flood is flawed from origin. "the result of all that heat"?? As the elements achieved their thermal liquefaction temperature level, they expanded in response to the exponentially magnified molecular activity produced by the increased heat. This RESULTED in the upward expansion of the earth's crust, RESULTING in a massive fissuring of the crust. Have a nice weekend fish

  • @snatchUfromfire I understand it far better than you do. Your statement of 150 is based on the time of full inundation (Gen 7:24), but Genesis states that the flood was from Noah's 600th 2nd month to his 601st 2nd month. Not surprising that a skeptic underestand your doctrine better that you. And the shortened interval you require just makes the heat problem worse. It's clearly known that there have been at least (continued)

  • @NorthForkFisherman By that time vegetation had sprouted and grown to produce leaves. Olive leaf? Miss that part of the “doctrine”? 150 days- the waters were abated, more importantly, the fountains of the deep were stopped. The severity was long over before your year was. Noah had to wait for vegetation which could support life before releasing the animals away from his food stock. You quote the time he released them as the time the flood was on the earth- obviously false.

    

  • @snatchUfromfire And where, pray tell, did the water go? Flow back against a pressure gradient? Never mind. You're clueless. As you continue to prattle, you seem to miss the point about the limestone - it's primarily calcite which has a very distinctive chemistry. All that heat given off is cumulative. Ever feel concrete setting up? Gets pretty warm. Multiply that by the amount of calcite known, and the LIPs (Large Igneous Provinces) rule that flood out. Nice try though.

  • @snatchUfromfire roughly 5 x 10^23 grams of limestone found in the earth's sediments. So that's 5.6 x 10^26 joules released if we assume only 10% was formed during your fictitous flood. Say goodbye to all that water, as it would boil off. Now for confirmed lava flows(8 x 10^24 grams) : 5.4 x 10^27 joules. Say goodbye to all life. And you want to make these wild-ass claims about radioactives and surface liquification with no proof? You do my work for me, little creatard.

  • @NorthForkFisherman “as it would boil off.” --behold, your flaccid argument. This results from your flawed concepts, NOT superior understanding. Too much limestone exists on earth to have been formed by present processes on the earth’s surface. Before the flood, supercritical water (SCW) in the subterranean chamber steadily dissolved certain minerals in the chamber’s floor and ceiling. The floor and ceiling became increasingly porous, allowing for even deeper dissolving.

  • @snatchUfromfire Rising temperatures in the chamber caused more and more limestone to precipitate onto the chamber floor. During the flood, the escaping subterranean water swept the precipitated limestone up to the earth’s surface. The point is, as pressure increases, the boiling point of water rises. At a pressure of 3,200 psi the boiling temperature is 705°F (374°C). Above this pressure-temperature combination, called the critical point, water is supercritical and CANNOT boil.

  • @snatchUfromfire Additionally, as all that water comes out at 705 deg F, that heat gets transferred to the rest of the environment. What, do you think it just goes away? You just keep adding heat to the surface and it's got nowhere to go. A wooden vessel simply becomes a piece of charcoal along with all the crispy passengers.

  • @NorthForkFisherman The fact that the carbonate mineral calcite precipitated from supercritical waters means the heat certainly did not incinerate the water and planet. Supercritical water readily dissolves minerals such as calcite and other solids. The liquid in SCW cools almost instantly if its pressure drops. This is because the myriad of shimmering liquid droplets, each surrounded by vapor, can simultaneously evaporate. As the flood began, SCW jetted up through a globe-

  • @snatchUfromfire encircling rupture in the crust—as from a ruptured pressure cooker. This huge acceleration expanded the spacing between water molecules, allowing flash evaporation, sudden and extreme cooling, followed by even greater expansion, acceleration, and cooling. Most of the vast thermal, electrical, chemical, and surface energy in the subterranean water ended up NOT AS HEAT at the earth’s surface but as extreme kinetic energy in all the fountains of the great deep. Ty!

  • @snatchUfromfire And still, basic thermodynamics fail. What do you think all that energy decays into - heat. And it all goes into the environment. You guys love to talk about thermodynamics, but you've got not the slightest idea of what it all means. I'm done here. You keep pumping energy into a system with not the slightest idea what all that means. It would be one thing if you even a 1/2 way plausible theory, but you don't even understand the basics. Wow.

  • @snatchUfromfire And still, basic thermodynamics fail. What do you think all that energy decays into - heat. And it all goes into the environment. You guys love to talk about thermodynamics, but you've got not the slightest idea of what it all means. I'm done here. You keep pumping energy into a system with not the slightest idea what all that means. It would be one thing if you even a 1/2 way plausible theory, but you don't even understand the basics. Wow.

  • @NorthForkFisherman The energy was released as kinetic energy, that’s as close to the “basics” as it gets. Literally learned about that in 5th grade. It’s obvious you can’t refute, so yes- you are done here. Go to the word, that you may know him. Thanks for your time.

  • Math can be used to confirm the Bible is true. See the Aimed At America 1 video for examples. There are too many parallels for these to be coincidences.

  • @vincent15641 Math also proves that the bible is not accurate. So it's probably best if you don't make blanket statements that you can't support.

  • @NorthForkFisherman I'm glad you are not on my jury because you have found me "guilty" without bothering to review the evidence. You did not even bother to mention the content of my video, with only contains an example of my testimony (book) in support of the Bible. Only so much can be done in a video, especially when dealing with code language.

  • @vincent15641 Ill settle for you explaining how there could be in one formation about 9 trillion cu meters of evaporite salt. This requires a certain investment in heat eneergy to create such a formation. Given that "flood geologists" call for a 1 year duration of Noah's pleasure cruise that amount of heat would've sterlized the planet. Would you like me to go into more detail to better explain it?

  • DONT LISTEN TO THESE STUBBORN ATHEISTS!! we have our faith and thats all we need!! You have fulfilled a major mission with this video...informing...you dont have to succeed in converting but this is majorly awesome :)

  • @kansaswhitewolf Now all he needs to do is try to explain away all the Large Igneous Provinces. This should be a hoot.

  • @NorthForkFisherman well people in Bible times explained things using metaphors and sometimes they didnt have science to tell them what was actually happening so they described it using their current knowledge...'the world' may have been their 'continent'

  • @kansaswhitewolf So you're not a biblical literalist. That's fine. Understanding the Bible as an inspirational text is just fine. It's when people try to say it's 100% literal and factual is where the trouble starts. I agree that since most people in earlier times rarely went more than 50 km from where they were born a local flood could seem like like the entire world was destroyed. However, most YECer/IDiots claim a literal interpretation that the whole earth was destroyed. They are wrong.

  • @NorthForkFisherman - Jesus Christ never actually existed. He could not possibly have. His ministry, as recorded in the synoptic gospels, has far too many parallels with the campaign of Titus, as described in the Jewish War. Also, Jesus predicts that a generation after his own, Jerusalem will fall. Titus fulfills this prophecy.

    Jesus Christianity is a Roman invention.

  • @Franknarfable That's not one of my areas of interest. If Jesus existed or not as a real person is also a matter of faith. What I go after are those who say that Genesis is literal and accurate and then try to prove it with the bastardized mishmash that is "flood geology".

  • @NorthForkFisherman - Cannot believe people take the Genesis story literally. Those that do must be difficult to reason with.

  • @Franknarfable Well most people of this type have a tendency to draw their identity from it and therefore react strongly negatively when something challenges it. This type of religious indoctrination is a very insidious kind of child abuse as it robs them of their ability to reason and question things effectively.

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  • @NorthForkFisherman The explanation - Roman authorship of the New Testament - has been growing for the last hundred years or so. It has taken knocks and keeps getting back up, stronger. The problem is main stream scholarship. They all travel down the same road, searching for and trying to explain the historical Jesus. There wasn't one. And you're saying that Jesus is also a matter of faith, even though he only appears in a fictional book. Anyway...

    ...I think you've got the harder crowd.

  • @Franknarfable They are both far beyond rationality. But the best part is.......we're making inroads. At a glacial pace to be sure, but small steps are still steps. Later!

  • from wikipedia: "The reference to Behemoth's "tail" that "moves like a cedar" (40:17), is a problem for most of these theories, since it cannot easily be identified with the tail of any animal. Some have identified it as the elephant's trunk, but it might instead refer to Behemoth's penis based on another meaning of the Hebrew word "move" which means "extend". (...) The Vulgate, recognising this, uses the word "testiculorum"."

  • Sorry, you are incredibly stupid. Give up the faith and get yourself educated.

  • You're a very stupid person indeed. Not trying to offend you, just stating a fact. All religion IS Faith and most of it is indeed BLIND, because even if it is explained to you why and exactly where your big book is wrong you simply REFUSE to acknowledge it. Example: how can you say that the Bible has accurately predicted the end of the World when IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET?!!?! That's just one example why you're stupid or, indeed, using Blind Faith.

  • "...evidence that they lived together..."!?! um, sorry, but no.

  • 2:04 Christianity is blind faith you dumbass.

  • Come on now stop taking the bible out of context to prove your point. You failed. Unicorns are mentioned right before this and the creature that is mentioned here, if you continue to read, is very clearly a dragon. Both mythological creatures that have NEVER existed. Read JOB 41, the very next chapter talks about the scaly creature and fire breathing. The problem I have with your video is that you make an assumption that atheists haven't read the bible most have read and or studied it. As i did

  • you are awesome i have an atheist friend and i can finally give her really good point thank you so much

  • @jedimasterawesome If you're going to just take one person's failed word from one passage that mentions something resembling a dinosaur then you really should read the rest of the passage and the verses before and after this. The very passage before this one he is talking about unicorns. Really? Unicorns? next following this verse he continues to describe this "behemoth" talking about breathing fire, scales and tongue like a snake. Sounds like the mythological creatures in kids stories huh?

  • @ichleibemeinenvr6 well you have a point but i think its still pretty helpful. also so were you formerly christian, a christian, or never religious ?

  • @jedimasterawesome Please explain how giving someone bad or wrong information is a helpful attempt to convert them or help them see your way? It is very clear that the passages from Job are referring to a dragon especially since it directly follows the unicorns.

  • @jedimasterawesome As far as my religious views I was never really religious growing up although I was very surrounded by christianity. I have always been fascinated with history so i study it and religions quite a bit. I have studied christianity for many years reading and studying the bible. I've also studied and read other religious texts such as the Quran, bhagavad gita and many others.

  • @ichleibemeinenvr6 oh okay just wondering

  • Great Job on this video. Another good argument that mueteverde above sais is that there is no evidence of a global flood when there actually is. In utah there is either THE saltiest or one of the saltiest bodies of water in the MIDDLE of a contient. How did it get there? Also there is evidence that the Salt Lake Valley in Utah was once a huge lake called Lake Bonneville How would all this salt water get there had their not been a great flood?. If Atheists would just research they would realize.

  • @KJP412 : Learn some geology and you will know how the" Great-Salt lake" got there.  if you believe the Flood and Noah`s Ark happened as desribed in the bible, either you didn`t graduate from kindergarten, or you need psychiatric help.

  • Lol'd. You have to translate or interpret a "perfect" book? No way bro, it's God's perfect word. No interpreting/translating allowed.

  • @TheDarvus LOL

  • @TheDarvus Go on... read a book... you can do! you'll have evidence overload and you'll be able to see why no one in the world agrees with you.

  • @TheDarvus try reading one of Strobel's books instead of just trolling his videos.

  • @TheDarvus actually there is a lot of evidence for it... somebody has truly fooled you.

  • On the video Awesome God, the Christian troll, Humbler25, praises MARK DAVID CHAPMAN for shooting Lennon. Chapman was a Born Again Christian. He had a Christian girlfriend, played guitar in Christian venues, attended Presbyterian College, & lived with a Minister before shooting Lennon. Chapman was angered by Lennon saying the Beatles were "bigger than Jesus." Chapman said it was blasphemy & nobody should be more popular than Jesus. He states he wants to set up a church if he ever leaves prison.

  • THIS VIDEO IS CRAP; just another argument from ignorance. Some people want this story to be true so badly that they will make strange rationalizations to try to support it. "We are just now finding evidence that they (dinosaurs and humans) lived together..." Really? Who is we? Do you mean Ray Comfort and his creationist crew? Get with the program.

  • "god seems to be the only way"

    *picture of satan*

    umm... lol?

  • awsome video! Everything is true as well! I've read some of these comments and am shocked at the responses. My gosh people there is evidence all around you! What most of you don't know is exactly how many scientists have actually given time into studying the Bible and trying to prove it wrong-but they found nothing, and many have come to Christianity! Thanx for making this vid and for sharring God's word. Oh and if any of you comment on what I just said and say,There is no facts," I won't answer

  • @jennabug121 don't know is exactly how many scientists have actually given time into studying the Bible and trying to prove it wrong-but they found nothing---- You mean they found nothing right in the bible, except some names of towns and some names of people.

  • you clearly did not read the bible...... the bible is an evil tool..... you believe in amen-ra ....watch my vids ...then start to read the bible & be shocked ... dont be in self denial

    peace4peace

  • great video check out answers in genesis ,,,,PROVERBS "he who is not with me is against me" don't forget that atheists

  • More ravings of a lunatic.

    This behemoth would, even if it does not "exist in our own time", would be less than 6,100 years old. If you open a grave of that age,, you will find, at the very least, bones. (the Tollund Man even had clothing that had survived from the C4th BC).

    So where are the bones of this mythical creature.

    Read some of the Victorian explorers accounts of the animals they encountered for the first time. They are couched in "mythical" terms as well.

  • More ravings of a lunatic.

    This behemoth would, even if it does not "exist in our own time", would be less than 6,100 years old. If you open a grave of that age,, you will find, at the very least, bones. (the Tollund Man of even had clothing that had survived from the C4th BC).

    So where are the bones of this mythical creature.

    Read some of the Victorian explorers accounts of the animals they encountered for the first time. They are couched in "mythical" terms as well.

  • Epic FAIL!

  • One of the more cretinous creationist videos I've seen and a classic example of confirmation bias in action.

    If you'd done any genuine research you'd know that Noah's Ark has not been found, and if there were dinosaurs in biblical times don't you think they'd have been given more than one single, vague mention in the whole bible?

  • @hardlyberking the fact that there were dinosaurs were vastly unimportant. dinosaurs have only become very intriguing in the last 100 years. it says there are dinosaurs and thats all, they are irrelevant in the bible it was just there to show of the massive animals God put on the earth.

  • Israel was brought back as a country obviously because ppl that read the bible and believe in it wanted to make it happen. Much like all prophecy fulfilled by jesus. Obviously whoever wrote the new testament, read the old testament and filled in what they wanted to fill in. How can ppl explain everything the bible got wrong? I can THE BIBLE IS BULLSHIT!

  •  I love when idiots try to act intelligent but fail miserably. The dinosaur proof that is tried to be explained is hilarious. The bible also talks about four footed insects and chickens, and dont forget about the seven headed lions with seven crowns too. LOL

  • jumping to conclusions, circular reasoning and vague, ambiguous prophesies are not evidence of the bible being true.

  • Um, the dead sea scrolls were dated to be between 200BC-68AD. Also, if your going to interpret the bible literally, a nuclear explosion doesn't rot a person, it incinerates them.

    Since I am writing this, and trying to turn you from the bible, if you obey the bible, according to Leviticus and Dueteronomy you must find me and stone me to death.

  • @intercipio and your putting ur reasoning to what was written in 80AD. John the Revelator explained his visions based on what his knowledge was at the time. he would have seen the flesh incinerated but would have only been able to describe it by rotting. and he sees grasshoppers with the face of a man. take a good look at an apache or a cobra chopper and you can see a resemblance to the grasshopper. again, the grasshopper was his best interpretation. maybe think like they wouldve back then.

  • You can have all the faith in the world but I'll bet you look both ways when you cross the street.. I think you are throwing a dart at a wall and drawing a bullseye around where it hits.

  • Nice Video. God shall surely take care. Remember what God spoke to Jonah after He decided not to destroy the city of Nineveh.

    Keep Praying Brother.

    Watch the video that I have uploaded - though in parts.. but it is worth a watch..

  • hey, as for the nuclear holocaust, bodies are often VAPORIZED near blast, not rotting as they stand, and radiation poisoning fatalities don't stand, they fall over because of this novel thing called GRAVITY.

  • we cant push them about God. They've right 2 do what they want 2 do. N I (as a christian) must say what i must 2 say, about the Thruth :). As long as they r lookin 4 a proof, yes there is no God(Logic), but if they a bit open their heart n lookin 4 God, THERE IS A PROOF(faith). I believe God will help thru atheist's hand, i believe God will help thru someone which i hate most (it is a difficult one isnt it? :D) I Believe, now there is 1 of them interest about what i wrote, b happy n b blessed.

  • @loudtalking ok tell me more if their is no god

  • The Bible says that humans are made of dirt.

    And that snakes and donkeys talk.

    And that insects have 4 legs.

    And that bats are birds.

    And that the earth is flat.

    And that the sun revolves around the earth.

    And that animals appeared AFTER man but BEFORE woman.

    If the the parts we can verify are false,

    how can we rationally rely upon the parts that are not verifiable?

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  • The bible the way it is, can never be the word of an intelligent god.

  • Yep the BIBLE IS TRUTH sorry atheists, come join the creator in heaven, wake up.

  • There is a God!

  • i thought there is no way a christian could get any dumber, but I was wrong

  • Ark Discovery visits Noah's Ark site Sept. 2009

    Ark Discovery Team visits Egypt and Israel in February.

    Photos coming soon.

    Ark of the Covenant 2 hour DVD being produced now.

    Estimated release in 2010.

    (We need your prayers for these important projects.)

    100 page magazine also in production.

    ------------------------------­----

    No researched papers, no evident, no publication, nothing is available, only mention of site visit.

    And u said the ARK is found?

  • Ur god, Being OMNI, "he" who created everything, frm A-Z, tht includes animals and insects.

    Can't even let human have a better understanding of what he created, instead, "he" gave hints(what theist always claim when it is vague)?

    Is it that hard for "him", if "he" really created the world - to put in the bible like "2mil types of animals and 3mil types of insects was created"?

    "He" dint have problem saying he created 2 great lights, the sun and the moon(even that is wrong).

  • Lol its funny how you say it predicts the future, when the people who read the bible instigate the actions and events found in the bible, this is like saying "Today I will go get a cheeseburger" and when you get that cheeseburger saying "oh wow I predicted I'd get this cheeseburger, I can predict the future"

  • Job 40:17 1/2 ...cedar. its sinews of its thighs are knit together. Job 40:18 its bones are tubes of bronze and its limbs are like bars of iron.

    having a tail(other translations say penis)stiff like cedar is not an elephant trait.

    I guess that proves it is speaking of dinosaurs which had knitted sinews, and bones of bronze.

  • Also, the bible is not meant to be a history book at all. The Bible is just a way to salvation and a guide how to live a good life hand in hand with God.

    The Bible is not there to prove anything only you have choice, you accept Jeus as your and saviour or Youdont. We make it hard, we look for questions, answers!. The bible says only a fool says there is not God. Are you a Fool ? Look at creation!!! We adapted. Come on!!!!!

  • Some believe logic, some believe fairy tales and u believe in "a book".

  • donth8christianity, plz don't get wrapped up in defining the causes of events in prophecy. we don't know for sure that the descriptions in Zec 14;12 is due to a nuclear exchange. it wasn't too long ago we heard of a flesh eating bacteria that consumed its host in a very short time, killing them within 1 day or 2. A more virulent strain may have already been created by our self proclaimed protectors (A.K.A. governments) in their (illegal) weapons labs. Or it may be supernatural, we don't know

  • bible is accurate and your video inspired me a lot

    subbed

  • Religion is on the decline because the information that discredits religion is readily available, so youre ignorance isnt an excuse any longer.

  • An elephant has a dick like a Cedar tree

  • @BFGStevo

    lol! I can see how people can get confused

  • Oh thank you! I love you so much for talking about the behemoth. Look back at the original hebrew testament and you'll see that it isn't his tail they were talking about, but it's huge penis. lol. They were most likely talking about an elephant. I also like the part where you claim that the bible's prophecies are fulfilled by jesus..... in the bible? Huh, I probably would have included them in their too, if I were writing the bible. And then claiming that the Nuclear war prophecy is true. WOW.

  • even historians who DISbelieve that Jesus was the messiah or anything divine, concede that he was Crucified, and the historical Jesus was a real man. So the prophecies can be confirmed OUTSIDE of the Bible as well. Also the arachaelogical accuracy has been confirmed in regards to King David, actually being a King, and Israel actually having a large influence on the world at that time

  • Maybe some historians do, but many historians are also convinced that the holocaust never happened. In fact there are (by conservative estimates mind you) 4 times more historians that don't believe that the holocaust happened than there are scientists who don't believe in evolution. That number could be as high as 200x as many by other estimates. But back to the point. There is not a single historian that wrote about Jesus during Jesus' lifetime. Not a single one.

  • I'm pretty sure that if I were an historian, I would write about someone who could heal people, and do crazy parlor tricks. Do some real research and you'll find that there was a non-Christian historian that wrote about Jesus about 20 years after Jesus died. It really took 20 years for someone to do that? Just think about how all those tales about Jesus, which basically had to be transferred verbally, would be added to, and misconstrued to come out as it is today. Take that Ron. ;)

  • i dont think you understand how historians record things. They arent hanging around constantly waiting for some big news, and then jot it down right away, and then its in the books for Good.

    "Many people overestimate the amount of historical sources we have from the 1st-3rd centuries. We know the Roman emperor of the time of Jesus Christ was Tiberius, Heres a question for you. How many sources do we have that even MENTION in any way, Tiberius the emperor within 150 yrs of his life? Cont'd-

  • How many? 10. ten Sources of the most powerful man on the planet at that time. 10 that even mention his existence, one being the bible. Now, how many do we have that mention Jesus within 150 yrs? 40! FORTY! And he was a jewish carpenter! This shows you the importance of Jesus of Nazareth"

    -David Wood

    so you can "Take That" right back ;)

  • That's not including the evidence like the laws he enforced, the battles he won as emperor, and many of the people that influenced him we know about as well. I'm also wondering, Do you believe in the literal interpretation of genesis? i.e. do you believe in evoultion, big bang etc. or the bible?

  • so you are just going to avoid the fact that i proved your point wrong? admit it, the historical Jesus is accurate. I forgot to mention also just a few days ago, big news came in, a computer analysis came in showing that there was a "death certificate" attached to the shorud of turin, a garment thought to be true until 1988, when a lesser advanced software came up from the medival ages. It is legitimate. Check it out for yourself. just google shroud of turnin, death certificate

  • Its easy to prove a point wrong if you don't site sources Tiberius has 100,000 historical sources Jesus has 1(40 books in the bible) see I just proved your point wrong. You mean the "death certificate" deciphered by a Vatican scholar? Why won't they let anyone else decipher it?

  • @robvlob

    how about i send you a video to back it up, and i will send you a link for the death certificate.

    It has nothing to do with the vatican. A scientist has deciphered it,

    i will PM it to you

  • @ronhudsonjr

    Ive have seen the link you speak of interesting but it is also been said that it could of been writing from a reliquary attached to the shroud during the middle ages.

    Why won't the Vatican let it be retested for carbon dating?

    why is the image more like a photo than a impression?

    why is the back and front image not separated by a top of the head image?

  • @robvlob

    i have not read anything about the vatican protecting it.

    I dont know all the answers about the shroud, nor do i pretend to.

    But the bottom line is the historical Jesus was a real person

  • i Believe that God created everything in the universe, including life. I do not believe that the earth is younger than 10,000 years. I do not believe in a literal interpretation in the same way alot of Christians do. There is alot of symbolism in it. It is definitely divinely inspired though.

    The big bang very well could have been the way in which God physically created the universe, i see no contradiction there. The universe is probably billions of years old

  • Christians deny facts about evolution? Hmm. That's an interesting statement, considering most of the things people have said to be true about evolution have been proven wrong. Also a funny statement, considering that no scientist in the world can re-create the human eye.

  • No, evolution has not been "proven wrong". It is the bedrock of the biologic sciences and you would have immense difficulty finding a PhD holding biologist who does not believe in common descent.

    No scientist being able to "recreate" the human eye has nothing to do with evolution. Evolution is a gradual, natural process that created the eye and scientists don't claim to be able to recreate it, so not being able to do so does not invalidate their claims.

  • Science actually gave a blind man sight, granted it was black and white but it was the 90's, our cellphones were barely getting color, also a camera is ten times(at least) more efficient then a human eye

  • This video should be proof to christians that there are no gods.

    If the author has to make such a leap as to derive the existence of writings of dinosaurs by the term 'like a cedar...' it must be painfully obvious that he/she is completely desperate and will ramble on about anything to try and gain favor; denying critical thought completely.

    Its the same with arguments against evolution; they deny facts.

    There is absolutely no need for any supernatural belief. We have evolved beyond it.

  • also- tom delongue of angels and airwaves is an atheist. fail video is fail.

  • it says "sway like a cedar" not "look like a cedar" and elephants tail though not similar in size to a cedar may very well move as a cedar does in wind- furthermore not all special of dinosaur has tails resembling cedar trees anyway...it's obvious this is about en elephant and nothing else. large herbivores- not all dinosaurs were herbivores but the largest land animal (an elephant) in fact is so he would eat grass like an ox...

  • Jesus people are fucking retarded if they believe this. They're talking about all the prophecies fulfilled? All it means is the people who wrote the New Testament, read the Old Testament, and then made the prophecies fit.

  • please watch :) REAL PROOF ITS FAKE

    /watch?v=ljRKhZ81aqY&feature=f­vw

  • oh and another thing... it used to be punishable by death to read the bible before it was translated.. after it was translated they changed almost all of it...

    they changed elohim (GODS)

    into just one god... EXPLAIN PLEASE??

  • The bible also says...

    The world is flat....

    The sky has a lid on it and space is full of water

    explain these two things please.

  • okay, no it doesn't. and if you try to pull that "four corners of the world" stuff, that was obviously symbolic speech. the bible said that the world isn't held up by anything long before man figured that out, so don't try to say that it's unscientific.

    and the space thing with the water? that refers to a protective layer of water encompassing the earth that came down with the great flood. either that, or it was talking about the establishment of the water cycle.

  • You don't have a clue what "scientific means". Nothing about the Bible is scientific, even when it is correct.

    There was no water layer and no global flood. Think about it. A water layer miles deep... and you think light would come through that much liquid?

    These are obviously ancient myths with a basis in the primitive understanding of reality of ancient peoples.

  • @muerteverde I believe that some things, mostly in the Old Testament, were more likely symbolic, in able for humans to understanding God's power and significance, yet some others things are in fact reality. But New Testament is more factual.

  • @muerteverde there was a global flood, take a look at the hydro plate theory and the beijing anomaly. the first is a very thought up theory, but its still a theory, however the beijing anomaly isnt. ever wonder where the water went, its under china.

  • wow des guy reli knows how to embaress himself..do your research first my friend..noah's ark was not found where it was writin in the bible nore it was the same size, you wana proov sumfin bring your evidancee...show me a website or a research report saying the bible was correct on noah's ark location..where is your proof, show us dnt just say it, show us, dnt just put lines and say its true, if its true, where is your evidance..laterzzzzzzzzz

  • Noahs ark is real, and it is the same size the bible said....

  • for your part on "Notice God says.."

    God didn't write the bible, man did

  • As far as the parting of the Red Sea, if the point of crossing for the Israelites had truly been a dry stretch of land for quite some time, as you're suggesting, how could coral form around wagon wheels as well as other parts of the wagons? If that portion did end up being filled with water naturally later on, like you're saying, it wouldn't have happened nearly soon enough for coral to take shape in such a detailed way. The wagon parts would've rotted and disintegrated too much beforehand.

  • First of all, people have the right to choose what they will and won't believe. I am in no way bashing anyone. As far as the dinosaurs, who said anything about "force of the water"? According to the account in Genesis, rain water is what caused the flooding. If the water level continued to rise and rise, a large animal could very easily still have prey in it's mouth. Especially if that large animal had a brain the size of a pea, and couldn't comprehend it was about to drown.

  • dino and humans togther jurassic park bullshit impossable i think you need to go back to school ! oh and im Christian by the way.. ur just a piss taker sorry mate ur out of ur depth with such shite !

  • Fossils have been unearthed that show dinosaurs with prey in their mouths. There has been only one event on this earth that came on so suddenly as to "catch them off guard" in that way. The flood back in Noah's day. Sorry to say but, the ice age didn't occur that abruptly. As far as Moses, coral in the shape of wagon wheels were found at the bottom of the Red Sea, in the same place where the Hebrews crossed. The actual wheels were wood and disintigrated, but coral formed before that happened.

  • did you ever think that water may not be as deep as it is now?so it could had been a regular road and not Moses.

    i say bullshit... the force of the water hitting you body would knock the food out of your mouth if your story was even real.

  • When you see millions of people just disappear you know that your time as an atheist is over. Mock all you want, act as cool as you all like, be controlled and non thinking for the rest of your days but be assured all your days are numbered and God knows them all and they are in his hands, not yours. Call him as much as you like but is all held against you. Every carless word you say. Your destiny has but two choices, life or death, you choose.