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  • umm... okay, this argument is completely useless this is just one of those stupid flame wars like pc vs. mac or xbox vs. ps3.

  • Ballot and other legal initiatives have recently been proposed in California that would ban infant male circumcision and penalize any physician who performed it. The AMA voted today to oppose any attempt to legally prohibit male infant circumcision.

    "There is strong evidence documenting the health benefits of male circumcision, and it is a low-risk procedure, said Carmel, MD AMA president.

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  • @SteelMembrane Saying that, towards the end Ana brought up that accidents happen; they don't just happen a couple of minutes. the reason they're so uncommon nowadays in the UK is due to a series of deaths caused by circumcising newborns, which soured everyone's view of it. there's also a lot of scarring and disfigurement caused by it.

    Again, coming from a European's perspective.

  • its funny to hear the sweaty mother with to much cosmetics in her face to say circumsision is "cleaner" LOL

  • Next they're gonna try banning ear piercing on kids.

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  • Anyone know what and where I can find the percentages of risk involved when a circumcision is being carried out vs. the long term risk and side effects later on in life of keeping the foreskin intact? Please, I need this info soon!

  • There no medical evidence for ANY sort of child abuse either.

  • Wow you fucked up this story. Aren't you supposed to be against the sexual mutilation of children?

  • my question is why are they banning toys in a happy meals?

  • lol stupid you can't ban circumcision.

  • The whole argument is simply put:

    Doesn't matter whether circumcision is bad or good. What DOES matter is the right of each person to make the choice for him/her self. THAT and THAT alone is what needs to be addressed and forget all the smokescreen BS that people keep putting into it.

    The question is, do we allow each person to have ALL of their Human Rights or just some of them.

    Genital Mutilation is serious, girls are protected, why not boys?

  • foreskin for life

  • Yes, personal choice... my body my choice. NOT my parents' choice. If no one would make that decision at 18, then obviously it wasn't that important. Boys are circumcised at older ages in many cultures around the world.

  • Whoever said that maybe neo-nazi pedophiles in America adore circumcision as the "clean" way of solving universal male woes...but who's uncircumcised and complaining??????

  • Do not circumsize

  • Yeah, and you know what; tattoos and piercings are forms of mutilation too; since you can't just let people do what they want, then why don't you waste your time trying to ban those too, you FREAK!

  • @melbyRick Yes, they are indeed, when done to an unconsenting infant.

  • @TrollingYouBe You know, I can't argue with you there, because you're absolutely right. But when it comes down to it, you'll never be right if you try to argue with religious fanatics. Their lunacy and their ridiculous ideas or misguided morals will trump your logic and reasoning every time, and there's not a damn thing you can ever do to make them see it your way. So once again, I say that this argument is a WASTE OF TIME!

  • @melbyRick You can't make a rapist and murderer see that rape and murder is wrong either that's why these people need to be stopped by laws making it illegal.

  • @TheYellowtulip So true!

  • Hey, old lady, thank you for saying what SHOULD HAVE BEEN OBVIOUS!

    it is a PERSONAL CHOICE!!!

  • Oh great, so now we've got another side-issue to bring up at every political debate and major electoral campaign; I guess we'll have to start asking the GOP candidates what their stance is on banning circumcision. Great idea, because it's already hard enough to have a real political discussion between the pointless ranting about abortion and gay marriage, so why don't we cloud the issues even more! Great Idea! 'Cause you know, the war and the economy don't need any attention; no, not at all!

  • Is the debate over? I'm sorry but no offense but this debate seems gross and weird.

  • Genitals don't smell bad when they are washed once a day.

  • yes yes i do!

  • SO DICKS WILL CONSTANTLY SMELL AS BAD AS PUSSY ! ANOTHER GAY FANTASY PERHAPS ! DISGUSTING !

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  • Dude, comeon. "They fix it if something goes wrong?" are you joking? Say that to the kids who have accidentally been scarred and even disfigured. Honestly, I don't really agree with doing it because of possible problems. You can have your opinion about it being good or bad but don't down play the "if it goes wrong" issue like that.

  • @auron130 Yeah, he's a fool. Circumcision is already risky, but this idiot is talking about permanent (further) disfigurement. It wouldn't need "fixing" if it had been left the way it should be.

  • tthey "fix it" by cutting it off

  • The host is really annoying in this. An adult wouldn't want someone to cut off the end of his penis? Well, DUH! So why are we forcing something on children that we wouldn't do to ourselves?

  • I think gay men like intact because anal sex is better with uncut due to it being more sensitive so it doesn't have to bang extra hard to feel something and cause tears in the skin causing HIV to enter the bloodstream.

  • I think that you should have to be 18 or older and can't force your kid to go through but that choice is up to you

  • How fucking ignorant are you two on the topic of genital cutting?

  • Do gay men prefer circumcised or intact?

  • END CIRCUMCISION!

  • @gingowitch definetely!especially among Turks!

  • I think it should be outlawed for the parent deciding to circumcise the child. the decision should rest on the adult who is going through the procedure.

  • Stupid ass in glasses. Parents have right to make child to go have education, because it is important for surviving in society. Genital mutilation is unnecessary and can cause terrible damage.

  • I dissagree with Ana. Aren't penises and vaginas attractive? I mean, what does the majority of porn focus on?

  • "Uncomfortable" is a vast understatement...babies burst their lungs from screaming in pain. What if someone strapped you down and cut into you? People have nightmares about that....they've done that to torture people in every war. This show accurately depicts the overall ignorance I've experienced when bringing up the issue with a variety of people.

  • WOWWWWWWWWWW you two are a couple of dolts and quite frankly you should never be allowed to be on air again! *puke*

  • "it's a personal choice" yeah that's right dip shits, personal choice for the owner of the penis! ugh..

    and it's not cleaner! my god people, stop being so stupid :(

  • i just find it amazing that people are focusing on this right now, instead of focusing on the economy not tanking and the Dow Jones going to zero. but then again, it is almost Tisha B'Av...so it doesn't surprise me.

    Tisha B'Av (9th of Av) falls in July or August in the Christian calendar. the day recalls general tragedies which have befallen the Jewish people over the ages:

    586 BC and 70 CE 1st and 2nd Temple's destroyed,1095 first Crusade, 1492 Jews kicked out of Spain, 1914 WWI breaks out

  • i love that the same people who want to ban circumcision, are the same people who are so gung-ho about abortion. the fetus doesn't get to choose if it lives or dies.

    lemme know when your heads are about to explode lol

  • @DeepHauz13 Look at it this way, if babies don't have a right to keep their body parts, if their parents can legally just remove parts they don't like, then what the hell is the point saving these kids just so they can be treated like subhumans?

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  • I have good looking penis with a foreskin.

    And would not have sex with female who think my penis looks ugly.

  • His body his choice what is so hard about this??

  • Blah, blah, blah... It's my choice to cut off my children's dick... It's my choice to cut off my children's clitoris...

  • @mrmootheirrev Your whole comment is nothing but blah blah blah. It is the child's choice not the parents.

  • The history of the attempts to destroy Judaism is punctuated with anti-circumcision laws. In 167 BCE the Syrian Greek occupiers of the Land of Israel banned circumcision. A few hundred years after that, the Roman occupiers of the Land of Israel banned circumcision in their attempt to destroy Judaism. The Nazis banned circumcision, as did the Stalinists. Banning circumcision is simply a synonym for banning Judaism.

  • @DeepHauz13 Then maybe Judaism is a barbaric religion.

  • @theb3rn7

    “The Ten Commandments have lost their validity. Conscience is a Jewish invention, it is a blemish like circumcision.” - Hitler

    "We want to be barbarians, it is an honored title to us. We shall rejuvenate the world. This world is near its end.” - Hitler

    thanks for playing everyone.

  • @DeepHauz13 Haha. Nice job comparing me to Hitler, even though all I am doing is defending the human rights of all of those poor baby boys. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an anti-semite. I don't hate jewish people. I just hate the jewish religions because I think it's evil, just as I believe that most if not all religions are evil.

  • @theb3rn7 tell me something...what do you actually know about Judaism...like REALLY know. and don't give me bullshit that you see in the media, on TV shows, or in popular culture.

    i'm really interested to hear this.

    the ignorance and stupidity on this comment board is astounding and frightening.

  • @DeepHauz13 I know a lot about Judaism. I was raised Jewish.

  • and religions in and of themselves aren't evil. people can be evil and often use religion to manipulate others.

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  • @theb3rn7 i agree... tho, in all honesty, there are parts of the bible that are spiritually sound......... i believe that all the hate filled crap is the worst of humynkind and the loving parts are the best of humynkind.......i just hope the humyn race will begin to realize this distinction and stop being lead by superstitious nonsense.. :/

  • @oh2love4love heh, my comment is not under yours so you prolly have not clue to what i agree with :)

    you said: I just hate the jewish religions because I think it's evil, just as I believe that most if not all religions are evil.

  • @theb3rn7 so in essence, i'm not comparing you to Hitler per se. i'm just trying to convey to you that there's a general rule of thumb that I live by: that anything that the Soviets and the Nazis tried to stamp out or ban from society, most likely (not always) should remain.

  • Fetus are the future babies.  Join the world or join G-d! The creator of the Universe awaits.

  • I'm against involuntary circumcision but one problem would be the fact that a lot of women actually prefer circumcised men over uncircumcised men because of the cultural stigma of uncleanliness that has been drilled into the public mind about the latter. You'll hear a lot of women say shit like, "An uncircumcised man is a DEFINITE turn-off. Ew! Their things look so gross! omg"

    It's stupid but that's a stigma that men who oppose circumcision will have to put up with unfortunately.

  • @A86 those womyn need to grow up and stop being idiots.. if they knew anything at all about the sexual function of the intact penis they'd change their tune real quick! educate not mutilate!

  • @A86 "Their things look so gross, omg" sounds like it's coming from a teenager. If they are not smart enough to know human anatomy then they shouldn't be having sex at all. I'm surprised that a teenager girl would not have an instinct to prefer a natural penis. When I was a teen, I sensed right away, after having experience with my first uncut boyfriend that the uncut penis was so much better and felt so much more normal than the cut one. continued.

  • @TheYellowtulip These people have been conditioned to think believe that, and they're too stupid to think for themselves

  • @A86 I had no idea what to do with the cut one, my instincts told me exactly what I needed to do with the uncut guy, but with the cut one I felt something was seriously wrong even though I had no idea what circumcision was at the age of 18.

  • Just because people have been doing it forever doesn't mean it's a good thing to do. I'd rather have kept my super sensitive foreskin.

  • and how are they saying robbing someone of their human rights is not a big deal? Would they be ok with me cutting the top of my daughters ear off just after she was born?

  • @Brushles83 It is possible

  • you cannot cut parts away from a child's body and call yourself civilized.

  • All those who cite abortion as a defense FOR circumcision, I ask you this. What the hell's the point in saving these incipient (male) babies when they have no rights regarding their own bodies?

  • WELL! I think same thing goes for abortion! It's the babies decision to live! Do we ask the baby if they would like to be aborted? Do we imprison all the women and men who commited abortion? Do we fine them? I know for a fact my nephew don't remember being circumcised!

    Genesis 17 is the reason why men are circumcised in Judaism and Islam.

  • @hudna1

    You're stepping into muddy water when relating circumcision to abortion. One is unborn and controversially lacks a conscious and one is very much alive and conscious. One is viably living and the other is not. Which shall we uphold humans rights to? A child and mother's rights supersedes those of a fetus. If you can't see this, then you are lost. Infant circumcision is a human rights violation, plain and simple. The owner of the penis is too young to consent to permanent surgery.

  • @hudna1

    A fetus, especially in the first and second trimester lacks the consciousness to decide whether they want to live or not. While I agree that the third trimester abortion is controversial, most abortions happen before then. What if the fetus's "life" infringes on the mother's life. Does the mother NOT have the right to her OWN body? Your citation to your holy book is proof, that at the core of the pro-life agenda is RELIGION. Your beliefs end when another person's body begins!

  • @hudna1 penis with foreskin is hot, naturel. i hate when i see man with circumsied dick. its ugly

  • @hudna1

    A fetus isn't a baby. Join the real world.

  • face it. the government is not going to ban circumscision. The government has more important things on their hands than a stupid piece of skin on top of a penis. There are more imprtant things to them such as recovering the economy. So just stop its not going to happen.

  • @DAN5675able

    face it. the government is not going to ban female genital cutting. The government has more important things on their hands than a stupid piece of skin on top of a vulva.

  • @TiniNormi makes sense I guess.

  • I'm only talking about male circumcision because it's a religious rite in the Jewish and Muslim faiths

  • banning circumcision is religious intolerance

  • @vadimzdonutube So I guess we should allow Muslims to mutilate their little girls. I don't care what anyone says Jews are to blame for this bullshit in the states. Prior to Jewish immigration to the states we hardly ever engaged in this barbaric practice. There is a reason why in ancient Greek and Roman artwork the only ones circumcised were satyrs, lechers, and barbarians.

  • U kno that guys pissed cuz he was snipped as a baby

  • @raptornuggets Well if that's the case, then he should for this ban, not against it.

  • Not only is there NO medical association that recommends it, but as of now, yet another state (Colorado) has decided to drop paying for it as it is completely unnecessary and does not contribute to the well being of the child. As an elective surgery, it ethically is the right of the child to make his OWN decisions about his OWN body.

  • Im thankfull i was circumsised. I would of much rather been circumsised as a baby than when i turned 18 at least i dont remember it.

  • Coming from a country where circumcision is not common at all I don't understand America's obsession with it. Circumcision isn't "cleaner", it's simply a matter of personal preferences. Why should you circumcise your kids? Why don't just people let decide their kids themselves when they're old enough?

    It's illegal to tattoo a baby or to chop its finger off, so why should it be legal to remove any other body part?

  • fucking stupid ass law

    ~circumcised person

  • You can't tattoo a baby, that would be abuse. Cutting off part of his body for no medical reason is abuse too!

  • @CamillaCalamity Leaving the penis alone also carries no medical reason.

  • @MacHead31 Hell I am a feminist. VERY feminist. And I am also a libertarian. Being a libertarian I believe that people should be free to live as they choose as long as they aren't harming other people. Circumcision is harming! Stop the cutting! It's not healthy, natural, or right. It is harmful! Women have their choice whether to be pregnant or not, but boys don't have the choice of whether to have foreskin on their genitals or not?

  • @CamillaCalamity I am not talking about ethics I am talking about scientific studies.

  • @MacHead31 There has never been any study that concluded that circumcision prevents: HIV, infections, malformation or STI's. Those are the main fears of the crowd that does circumcision for medical reasons. They are basically doing it for no good reason. I fear what other things the medical community pushes on us without any science involved!

  • @CamillaCalamity Shut up. You can be anti-cir I don't care what you believe, but don't go run your mouth about science you don't know anything about. Studies have shown that it is very possible that cir does prevent HIV. There has to be an extreme overwhelming amount of evidence for any medical group to announce it though. That doesn't mean there isn't a lot of evidence already. The CDC and the WHO both recognize that it is very possible that cir does prevent HIV by about 60%.

  • @MacHead31 Okay then, ASSUMING that circumcision prevents AIDS, HIV, hepatitis, cancer, and the plague, is it still okay to circumcise infants? Why not let the boys make that decision when they turn 18? It is their bodies after all.

  • @CamillaCalamity I don't care about the ethics, so I don't give a damn. If you want info go to "google scholars", "pubmed", CDC, or WHO.

  • @MacHead31 There is no medical reason to circumcise. And you don't have any ethical reason. So why are you for it?

  • @CamillaCalamity I am not. There is no medical reason to do it or not to do it. The penis will be fine either way.

  • @CamillaCalamity touch me or my children I will cut away your genitals and your chest

  • @MacHead31 Prevents HIV? if this is so, then why is HIV such a problem in USA where people circ their kids without a secon thought? Why aren't the 500 million intact guys in China all dying of diseases and shit? Circumcision is a scam, and it sounds like you've fallen for it.

  • @TheWorstWarlock Reason why HIV is high in the USA = Origin of HIV + Triangular Slave Trade

    Seems like you have fallen for the anti cir scam.

  • @MacHead31 I don't think so. I'm from England and most people here wouldn't even consider doing this to their kids. Your American doctors make too good a living out of circumcision, so they paint it as a good thing.

  • @TheWorstWarlock Doctors don't decide to do it parents do.

  • @MacHead31 I've heard stories about doctors taking it upon themselves to circumcise a kid without the parents permission. Not that I think it should be the parents' choice. What gives them the right?

  • @TheWorstWarlock Your thoughts are bouncing all over the place. First you talked about HIV vs circumcision, then without acknowledging my point if you agreed to it or not you starting talking about doctor's salaries, now your moving on to talking about parent's decisions. Get your thoughts together then write a reply back to me and figure out exactly what you want to discuss.

  • @MacHead31 If you're responding to the slave trade point, I've no idea if HIV had anything to do with that, so I chose not to comment. My comment about doctors was in response to what you called the anti-circ scam. The reason why it's so prevalent in the US is because of doctors, yet most doctors here would refuse to perform a circumcision on an infant without a good reason. I'm just trying to highlight the difference between two countries.

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  • @TheWorstWarlock If you have no idea if the triangular salve trade (TST) had anything to do with it then maybe you should research it so you can come up with an argument or agreement to my point. If you researched it and your undecided if the TST had to do with HIV in the US, then how can you assume your cir-HIV rate is valid? I call it an anti-cir scam because it is similar to MMR vaccine scenario, you jumped to doctors' salaries. What topic do you want to discuss?

  • @MacHead31 Truthfull, there's not enough room to discuss it here, but my main objections to infant circumcision in the US is the attitude with with many parents who go through with it have. When they say stuff like "eww, foreskin is gross, my son will be circumcised" without any regard for what their son might think. I'm still astounded that this as become so normal to Americans. How the hell did this happen? Why do so few of them question it?

  • @TheWorstWarlock Actually a lot of parent's question it and I think everyone should. Question both sides not just one side. Lots of girls in the US do say things like "eww foreskin is gross" and I am sure there are girls from the UK who say "eww cir is gross it looks mutilated" both of these types of girls are immature, but it really is just a social thing. I can turn the question back around to you and say why do UK parents not cir? How the hell would they let their children be uncut?

  • @MacHead31 Dont try and fix it if it aint broke pretty much sums it up the mindset here.

    The attitudes of the host on this show are pretty annoying. The man's statement "Well no one will do it at 18!" is an argument ender. If a man wouldnt choose to cut a piece of his penis off given the choice, despite all the alleged "health benefits", then surely forcing it on him before he's old enough to talk isn't a good thing? In a wolrd where inant circ is illegal, i'd love to see how many men choose it

  • @TheWorstWarlock I can understand the mind set where you live, but the mind set in the US is if it looks gross cut it off, so the most US girls it is "broken" (however not really). Well there are some people who do choose it as adults and say it great and wish they had it done as a baby. I guess someone can argue that because a father choses to cut his baby therefore he would have liked to be cut at birth as well, so for everyone baby that is cut there is a father who wanted the same.

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  • @TheWorstWarlock "Dont try and fix it if it aint broke pretty much sums it up the mindset here." Yeah true, but you could say that about a lot of things: shaving/waxing, tattoos, piercings, ect.. I think everyone should pick what's right for them, but I honestly think people think too much into this thing (i.e. does it prevent HIV? Is there sensation loss? Do girls like it? Will I like it? ect..) If it was never done on infants people wouldn't fight so much about this.

  • @MacHead31 Perhaps. I've never been one for tattoos and other body modifications myself. The difference is, though, is that adults choose to get them. They aren't forced on anyone. Well, piercings are, but for what it's worth, unless they asked for it, I wouldn't just pierce any of my kids ears. You're right, though, if circumcision wasn't done on kids, there'd be no debate. That's my only problem with it. Of course the whole religion thing gets in the way, or it would have been outlawed by now.

  • @TheWorstWarlock I use to not be for tattoos also because I didn't like the idea of permanently altering my body. Then I re thought it like this: If I don't get a tattoo I will have to permanently have my body the way it is, but if I get a tattoo I will permanently (assuming you don't get it removed, which is time consuming if it's large) have a mark. Either way my body will be permanently someway, so why not get one.

  • @TheWorstWarlock I agree with you wholeheartedly. I'm an American and I am disgusted with the majority here. Some people I've talked to think I'm insane when I say I will not circumcise my future son. The things they spew out of their ignorant mouths are all things they heard and never thought to doubt or reconsider. Poor little baby boys. :(

  • @maimingbetty You're not a puppet like all those other fools. Too many of your countrymen and women have been brainwashed, and it's a shame.

  • @TheWorstWarlock Circumcision increases hiv because the circumcised penis thrusts harder and there is more friction due to it being less sensitive so it is more likely to tear the delicate vaginal tissue and cause bleeding which can cause hiv to enter the bloodstream.

  • @TheYellowtulip This actually makes sense.

  • @TheYellowtulip or you could not fuck dirty whores with HIV and or not dirty whores with HIV shouldn't fuck other people?

  • @CamillaCalamity SPOKEN LIKE A TRUE DEVOTED IDOT !!

  • @PLISKEN12 You're pretty good at typing for a four year old.

  • @CKThriller8 you said "WHO CARES!". but that's really a question rather than a statement.

    and the answer to the question is "A lot of people care. including me". if no one cared, this ban wouldn't even show up on the ballot this fall.

  • @CKThriller8 well, i just started to move on from this problem. so my life isn't scarred too much.

    i said victim because i had my penis cut up without my permission... when i was only a baby! such an ethically corrupt act shouldn't exist on this planet... but it does. and i am just one of the probably hundreds of millions of men who had unfortunately gone through this.

  • if parents do that to their sons they should have taken their son taken away from then and getting into jail.

    Its fucking slice on a part of the penis. Fuck religions on this.

  • "Thats a personal choice". For WHO?!

  • 5:05 let me show you... camera cuts... lol

  • 3:40 to 3:44

    AWE YEA....

    also: Circumcised here; its awesome, i don't have to pull back any skin to clean it, everything is just easier.

  • @zombikilla92 LOL you say that like it's a lot of work! You obviously don't know what you're talking about. You spend less than 3 seconds cleaning it in the shower.

  • @LtShock i don't think you understand how lazy i am.......

    im glad i am; just sayin

  • @zombikilla92 If you're bald, you don't have to waste money on shampoo conditioner and haircuts. If parents could make their kids bald in infancy so that everything would be easier, would that be morally justified?

  • @TheWorstWarlock Or maybe remove all their teeth at birth...why not? It would prevent cavities, and save on dental costs. The truth is, however, that all the problems that circumcision is supposed to prevent happen at a lower incidence rate in Europe than in the US, and Europeans don't circumcise. So everything that's said about the benefits of circumcision is a lie.

  • @AdamSzm Of course. This is far too logical for some folks to understand, though.

  • @TheWorstWarlock Another thing about this video is how annoying the girl really is. The guy is a douche, no question about it, but the girl is especially stupid. And it also touches on another subject, how hypocritical the women are about this issue. They will not let men discuss things like abortion because it's a "women's issue", but they're the first ones to throw in their 2 cents about MALE circumcision.

  • @AdamSzm The girl is a fool, and the man...is he so ignorant that he can't see the holes in his own logic. He rightly says that no man would get circumcised of his own accord if the choice was left to him. Gee, maybe because it's NOT A GOOD THING!

  • @AdamSzm And to prove what a hypocrite this woman is, on another of their videos, she was basically condemning a woman who had a ridiculous amount of plastic surgery. So it's ok for parents to slice up their son's dick, but it's not ok for a grown woman to do what she wants to her own body however ridiculous? Riiiiight.

  • END CIRCUMCISION!

  • @GunNut1993 Don't worry, I won't. You're missing the point though. If a man doesn't want to be circumcised, but he already is due to his parent's idiocy, it's too late for him. THAT'S the point of this, to protect the rights of future men.

  • banning happy meals is far more extreme than banning circumcision, they are on completely different levels in my opinion, feeding your kids mcdonald's does cause a permenant aleration to their body

  • @GunNut1993

    And if the child didn't want to be circumcised what's he going to do?

  • @GunNut1993 Funny that you use the word child instead of boy/son. At least you don't hold a double standard.

  • So I'll bet this guy has no problem with late term abortion, where the baby's limbs can be ripped off or it's skull is crushed and even set aside on a shelf and aloud to just die.

  • @OMGpeopleplease

    Funny, this video has nothing to do with abortion, and 99% of abortions take place before fetal viability. Learn how to come up with your own arguments (REAL arguments) you fucking sheep.

  • What's next? Ban on body piercings, Tattoos, mohawks, gold teeth, teeth whitening, tooth braces, ear piercings, for the under-18? Nope. Liberals are too fond of those.

  • @robocrapz

    Please tell us which of those are permanently forced on children and maybe you'll have a valid point.

    "What's next" = slippery slope = logical fallacy.

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  • So these retards would say "personal choice" if they decided to slice off the end of their baby boys finger? No, how about I put you in fucking jail for mutilating your child?

    I can't believe this shit gets a pass.

  • @girty367 "God" sounds like a prison gang leader who makes all of his followers get matching tattoos. Is this really the will of the author of creation, or a manmade construct designed to control people?

  • its a health issue its cleaner ha ha that pig looking fat cunt is such an idiot she has no idea what shes talking about

  • ban circumcisions...but abortions for all /sarc

    let ban ear piercings until 18 /sarc

    children must approve all medical procedures /sarc

    last but not least...parents can approve vacines, only children /sarc

  • @johnshep293

    This has nothing to do with abortions.

    Ear piercings aren't permanent and don't involve tissue removal.

    Circumcision isn't a medically indicated procedure unless it's necessary.

    Vaccines don't permanently remove tissue and their effects aren't noticeable on a daily basis.

    God damn you're stupid.

  • Letting the government take away a choice that is extremely personal and should be a decision left up to the parents is absolutely ridiculous. Way to go you liberal idiots.