Not a single doubt about this one seven wonders of jet fighters; the Su-35. It is truly a breed to reckon with against its american rivals. I have yet to see them.
@xsf908@xsf908 At the front there is a SU 37 "feathers." It allows you to make such an aircraft aerobatics as chakra Frolov.Su 35 has no such properties.
Although impressive this jet weighs 22 tons empty, I very much doubt if it could do those maneuvers with a full fuel & weapons load, it would be far too heavy...nice to watch but of limited use in combat.
true Delta - and they are designed to carry a big load of air to air - Russian approach seems to be that you need to get a lot of shots out there quickly to increase your chance of a hit. Scary bit is their missiles seem to have an edge in manoeuvrability and range...
@patskipats1 ...only an ignorant thing will say that.... they were 12 of this one...5 are used on the acrobatic team...the layout its used on Su30MKI and the final "product" its Su35
Nowadays, is there still a need for aircraft that can maneuver fast? I mean, air to air / ground to air missles are pretty fast so physically dodging them isnt really that effective. Youd likely use some jamming or other decoys. And you dont need to have a aircraft in front of you to get a lock, you could likely lock on any aircraft around you. A fast aircraft is good for intercepts or to get away, but im not sure how fast turning helps when missles are flying around.
@108Dax During the Vietnam war the F-4 Phantom suffered 1:1 kill ratios against far less advanced, yet more maneuverable, Russian made fighters. Out of that came Top Gun and later many American studies were done and the F-15 and F-16 (F-18 too) emerged putting much greater emphasis on agility. Russia also used the studies as well and to great effect. Fighters are extremely expensive so they need to do it all these days. Cant cut corners or you will die!
@bujoun76 I think the information age from the 90s improved processing power exponentially. The GPS system only became active in 1994 so that adds a lot in overall battlespace awareness. If you look at improvements in aircraft agility vs missle accuracy (+speed, +agility) has improved then it wont be long drones become the main attack aircraft. Cheaper to make, no experienced pilots lost, aircraft can handle more Gs. One gets shot down, pilot can move to another drone.
@108Dax Drones will do much more as time goes on but even future air superiority drones will still place a strong emphasis on speed and maneuverability. Otherwise we might as well make a fleet of air-to-air B-1R or B-2 mass missile carriers. No amount of agility will help if and when enemy "fighters" catch-up to them! Also fighters are the only weapon that can target and destroy everything else, on the battlefield, including other fighters. You just can't pass that up!
The possibility of dogfights declines with the increase of military technology, but it still exists. In war, the lowest risk and highest chance of victory is always the path taken. With ground to air warfare technology it seems unlikely that air to air combat, especially airplanes chasing one another, would happen. This plane would likely rule a dogfight in the hands of the right pilot. From what I hear, Russian pilots are not nearly as skilled as other countries, rendering SU-35 less useful.
wow very agile, however the raptor is just as together with stealth will blow it out the sky, im from england and the euro fighter would be on par with the su's, however we have the usa as allies too.he he.
@winstonchurchil1945 That's true...but don't forge about the Sukhoi T-50 PAKFAs and the Chengdu J-20. It's a while till then but by that time the Eurofighter Typhoon and Raptor will start to show their age if they don't upgrade.
after WWI piolts were saying there wont be more dogfight...after WWII pilots and "experts" were saying there wont be more dog fight....after korea they said the same....every one knwe what hapendes after those wars.
i'm not hating on anyone, just saying that these maneuvers I have seen the raptor conduct, maybe no as tight, but pretty damn close to where any difference is negligible
@R31K88 ppl would shut up if they only knew WTF are they talking about =P most of the arguments in youtube are caused by bad info, trust me, its like that =P
Oh PLEASE. WHAT use are these moves? By the time you do them, you have almost ZERO airspeed and therefore no manoeverability. You will get your arse shot off. Fine at air displays, otherwise USELESS.
@stubbostubbs I totally agree. These aircraft at airshows have optimal fuel, limited avionic packages to reduce weight, no external stores to reduce drag... A combat ready Su-35 could never perform any of these manuevers. They're just crowd pleasers. Just like the Mig 35 that failed miserably in the MMRCA competetion.
@YaropolkMSK Not even, bud. You show me any of these doing these fancy stunts not flying clean and then I'll be impressed. Otherwise, a crop duster is just as good.
@DirtyThing20 Fairy stories, I leave that to our Russian/Soviet bretheren. From aircraft to tanks, from subs to missiles. Soviets/Russians always talk big and produce crap/scrap !
@DirtyThing20 Why would I do that seeing as how I`m British? Everytime Russian/Soviet military kit meets western kit, your stuff gets whacked. All through the middle East wars, you kit is scattered around the desert. The Brit Centurion tank crewed by Israelis, kicked the arse of your T54/5`s and T 62`s. Even though it was approx 15 years older in design. Iraq 1, whenever the Iraqi Migs came up to meet the western kit, yours got splashed etc etc etc
@stubbostubbs U equal two unequable things..Countries sell their old technique and devices..It is the same, like, somewhy, in airshows Su-27 crashes...Where was those crashes, in different countries, not in Russia...Somewhy it doesn`t happen in Russia..Why?..because they don`t sell everything they have, I mean high-tech...Same will happen with F22 in Iraq hands, sea harrier in Iraq hands and so on...So don`t talk a bullshit to me.
@DirtyThing20 Doesnt change the fact that soviet kit is crap compared to western kit. You make stuff that is CHEAP and can be manufactured quickly. Your mil doesnt care about the soldier that has to use/operate it. Life is cheap in the Russian mil. The F22 is turning out to be crap but the RAF Typhoon is turning out to be a star. It can do its tricks complete with external stores. If your Migs or SU`s tried their stupid manouevres with external stores it would fail, just like your TU144
@stubbostubbs says who? soviet "crap" has been always used by crappy 3rd world armies, whose training and tech was FAAAAAAR from being equal to western armies, no night vision, no thermal scopes, no aircraft, no AWACS, no nothing
russia and US ahve never fought against each other, the only pilot i remember fighting that was actually russian was during the korean war, and he proved the americans what a real russian could do with their planes
@Loxleiev Well Russian "Advisers" (Pilots), did come up against Yanks in Korea. After some initial successes (your Migs were powered by a British jet engine built under license), they then got totally hammered. The kill ratio was 10 dead Migs to 1 dead Yank. i`d say that says it all. Lo maintenance is cos they're shite! 2 Brit Centurions crewed by Israelis, held off 150 T62`s for 30 hrs. These 2 Centurions destroyed over 50 of your heaps in the fight.
ummm again, you are talking about the whole korean campaign, the 10 to 1 its the general , not the aprticular russian vs yank statistic, doesnt count
we were talking about aircraft and u brought tanks into discution, which also were commaded by 3rd world armies, such as palestine and lebanon, russians and yanks ahve enver fought against each other, tank god they didnt....
maitenance its one of the most expensive and time consuming thing, resources u lack at war!!
@Loxleiev FOR FUCKS SAKE.! Can you provide statistics where yanks took on russki pilots.....NO, obviously not (cos the russians will never admit to coming 2nd). Point being,, Western kit almost always beats Russian kit.
@stubbostubbs taht applies the same for western , they will enver admit they came in 2nd(the collpase of the soviet union was their own fault, not because of the west)XD dont get mad my friend, just because u can prove your point doesnt mean that im right either,
tehre no actual facts that can prove your point, theres no proof about americans and russian fighting, thats why its called "Cold war"
in tech, western is a just a little better than soviet, in costs and capabilities, russian is up ;-)
@Loxleiev LOL. Collapse of the Soviet Union WAS because of the West. Maggie Thatcher encouraged reagan all the way. by promoting the Star wars project and other things, the Soviets went bankrupt trying to keep up.
Why do you need maneuverability when you can launch missles without having to face the aircraft anymore? Sorry that US is way ahead of Russian planes, but there is no need to face each other anymore.
@VictoryAHK Rules of engagement still require a visual identification before you fire. You can't just shoot at a green dot on your screen, you have to visually identify. So yes, you might still need to face each other
Awesome video. But in the end, it's all about the pilots skills. You could have all the technology of this world but a highly skilled pilot is priceless.
Нашим лётчикам налёт бы как у америкосов, тогда тем в атмосфере Земли делать нечего будет, так как гонять их будут от Гренландии до Антарктиды, невзирая на F22 и F35, те всё равно так не могут летать.
Dogfights are obsolete? Yeah... Us air force said that back in the sixties and therefore F-4 was fitted with air-to-air missiles only, and what happened? BVR is great theory but, we were often thought otherwise by practice! Hope never to find put who is wrong! PEACE
@Marek883388 during vietnam US engineers thought the same as you, many F-4 were shot down because they didnt include any gun to it,
its most likely that planes enter in dogfights when defending a territory, the attackers would have to defend themselves so there u have your dogfight, course, its diffeerent, u keep trying to get a lock on it, like greeks and turks, search for taht video, its a real dogfight between 2 f-16s, greeks finally gets a lcok by making a high G turn, dogfight for sure!
@Marek883388 Very true my man, but it cuts into stealth when you have maneuvrability, and stealth will most likely be a larger advantage in modern warfare... I love the Sukhois, Migs, Lockheed Martins (?) and all the aircraft... Our largest threat is not eachother, but ourselves
@Darkonomist the armament to f-22 consuming very fast and results not guaranted dawn Su or Mig because contrameasurings to this russian plane is better in the world, and afther that??? when finish armament ???
F-22 fly 1200 km
Su -35 fly 3000 km
Su have most powerfool missile, and speed better than f-22.
Russian have best contrameasuring anti plane in the worl.
Mig-31 have big radar in the world and fly very high, with 10 Mig-31 in ear they make a web radar, f-22 cannot pierce this radar
Plus it makes evading long ranged missles much easier, because they are much less nimble and maneuverable than smaller short ranged ones. And the fact that a pilot doing a cobra maneuver disappears off of radar for a short period of time, it can come in handly :D
@Darkonomist dogfights will always happen. USAF likes to think that they are a thing of the past, and that technology will make dogfights obsolete. Very bad overconfident logic. Strategy on paper never resembles what takes place on the ground. In Vietnam they had to fit a cannon onto their F4s, because the original design didn't include one. They were kicking themselves for that one in the first stages of the war.
@Darkonomist i believe it was the early F-4 phantoms that were completely no gun-fighter that brought about the realisation that while dogfighting in its true sense was a propfighter activity, going guns and turn fighting is still very possible and not unlikely even in the modern "BVR" air battles hence why super maneuverability is back on the cards. Also having the ability to snap turn can assist in IR missile snapshots and missile evasion
@Darkonomist Dogfights are more common than rocket shooting, as it was proven in Vietnam where Americans were forced to put back cannons on F-4 because in almost all cases cannon-less F-4 was in dogfight.
dont act dumb~ there will always be dogfights like a soldier shooting another soldier with a rifle and bullet~ like i punch you with my fist and kick you with my leg~ "i thought that was only in the past like i spank you with my dick"~
@Marek883388 Actually, Russian concept of dogfight includes high AoA manuever using TVC - however, US test during 90's with X31 has concluded that speed is much more important than AoA. Even F-22's TVC is used not for dogfight, but for short distance take-offs. This is because due to missiles such as Aim-9X that you do not need high AoA in order to launch missile. Aim-9X / Python 5 can be launched to any 360 degree boresight.
@gibbo1112 yes, Angle of Attack - F-18E/F has unlimited AoA. The reason is due to its attack anlge is full 360 degrees - it does not have to point its nose on enemy to launch its missile - it can launch the missile at target that is at 180 degrees (at 6 o'clock) location. Therefore, its all about energy maintenance for US - where as for Russian aircraft, its all about super manueverbility. It is a doctrinal difference of aircraft design for both countries.
@looxgood AoA is also the angle at wich the air hits the wings, and sukhois can do god damned backflips...
but thats why i was confused, when you said unlimited AoA i thought, "well, just coz theyre doin backflips doesnt mean unlimited AoA..." but the missile thing makes more sense...
@Marek883388 Bollocks. Do this with a loaded aircraft and it`ll snap. if it doesnt snap, it`ll get splattered as it tries to build up its lost airspeed. ZERO AIRSPEED = ZERO MANOUEVERABILITY=DEAD!
@Marek883388 The vector-thrust-with-canard Su's are amazing, I think they are more maneuverable than any Western planes, but I think they would lose in combat because Western countries have a lot more money for training time. If Russia & Ukraine can't even afford much practice flying for the few planes doing airshows, how can they afford enough training for hundreds of combat planes? Also they almost couldn't shoot down Korean Airlines, it nearly got away without even needing to dogfight at all.
@Darkonomist The folly of Us tech is that there aren't any counter measures, there has never been a games simulation type war where one side just pushes buttons and the other falls.
Even in ancient times arrows could harm the enemy at long distance but no war was decided by them!
@Darkonomist If americans would like to have a war with Russia, there will be lots of dog fighting :) ...Russian wins...That`s why america is so scared of Russia..
@DirtyThing20 Hey Dickhead. Have you seen the projected finishing stats for the Indian MMRCA competition? The Mig 35 ans Sukhoi 30 got well and truly TWATTED by the Eurofighter. LOL LOL LOL
@Darkonomist Уход от приследующего неповоритливого противника, его дезориентация в пространстве, заход в хвост и уничтожение. understandable? Есть один анекдот: Двое мужчин собираются на охоту на медведя. Один из них одевает ботинки, а второй спортивные кроссовки. Первый спрашивает у второго: "Зачем тебе кроссовки? Неужели в случае опасности ты в них сможешь бежать быстрее медведя?" Второй отвечает: "Нет, но я смогу бежать быстрее тебя. И этого достаточно."
@Darkonomist SUs are the best fighter planes in the world and dog fights stil exists. For example Greek and Turkish fighters engage into dogfights every day (without shooting real missles). So it is utopic to say "who needs that maneuverability"..... It is like saying who needs FERRARI or LAMBOs OR PORSHIE since there is a small chance of someone driving at their top speed!!!
@Darkonomist ...since alway have been dogfight...even when stupid people think and say it wont be it on future, just remember when hapens after WWI, WWII, korea and vietnam....
@mihaivitro Asa e, ma bucur ca am un conational care vede ingineria Rusa cea mai buna din lume, simpla, eficace, ieftina, durabila, si fara complicatii ca cea americana.
Ceva de gen "deutsch qualitat" dar fiecare cu particularitatile sale.
damn... and now after seeing that, who can still say the F22 is better??
dgtheman100 1 day ago
bildiğin su fışkırtıyola bu yakında döl fışkırtan uçakta çıkarırlar amk
gemlikli161 6 days ago
1:42 to 1:47 UFO?
razor11079 2 weeks ago
@razor11079 Another plane.
ogi415 1 day ago
@ogi415 oh
razor11079 1 day ago
Is it stealth to radar like the F-22?
xxxBradTxxx 1 month ago
@xxxBradTxxx Partially..
Marek883388 1 month ago
@xxxBradTxxx With those vertical stabilizers? LOL.
triathlete007 1 month ago
@xxxBradTxxx but still better then f-22 XD
trance22355 2 weeks ago
@xxxBradTxxx Copy the name and place in search:
Petr Ufimtsev the Creator & Father of Stealth Technology - Russian Stealth
Vanyaaynav 2 weeks ago
@xxxBradTxxx no that two aircraft is not stealth
razor11079 2 weeks ago
ЕСЛИ БЫ Американцы дали Арабам f-22 , мы бы их на допотопных миг-21 сбивали ...
а Арабы на допотопных миг-21 ,без поддержки "аваксов" f-22 отгоняли от цели
100copok 1 month ago
who the fuck get the "brilliant" idea of flashing the video? its stupid
wackokicker 1 month ago
@wackokicker bla bla bla bla.......
6020SO 1 month ago
I love that fighter.
sg1parasite 1 month ago
Not a single doubt about this one seven wonders of jet fighters; the Su-35. It is truly a breed to reckon with against its american rivals. I have yet to see them.
imagesoflightable 1 month ago
Firstly GREAT VIDEO!!! however it only shows the su-37
supertomdikke 1 month ago
what is the diffrence betveen su-35 and su-37 ?
xsf908 1 month ago
@xsf908 @xsf908 At the front there is a SU 37 "feathers." It allows you to make such an aircraft aerobatics as chakra Frolov.Su 35 has no such properties.
6020SO 1 month ago
@6020SO I think they were removed to make it stealthy front on.
viper8707 3 weeks ago
MACROS FIGHTER!
thegnemo 1 month ago
wow thats a pretty plane
masluxx 1 month ago
esto demuestra que los pilotos y las aeronaves rusas son buenas
sukoy999 2 months ago in playlist Más vídeos de Marek883388
1:40 this french guy think. why i not fly this plane :D
Production1992nr2 2 months ago
An advantage in combat to loose someone on tour tail
bkw1952 2 months ago
@bkw1952
also useful in the 'end game' of an air to air missile attack - ie - dodging missiles!
grimwat 2 months ago
Something is really fucked up with the laws of gravity here :-)
mickeynatasa 2 months ago
Although impressive this jet weighs 22 tons empty, I very much doubt if it could do those maneuvers with a full fuel & weapons load, it would be far too heavy...nice to watch but of limited use in combat.
TyphoonDelta1 2 months ago
@TyphoonDelta1
true Delta - and they are designed to carry a big load of air to air - Russian approach seems to be that you need to get a lot of shots out there quickly to increase your chance of a hit. Scary bit is their missiles seem to have an edge in manoeuvrability and range...
grimwat 2 months ago
Dont try this at home))))
KonigRama 2 months ago
1:24 - 1:32
OH MY GOD!!!
amartinjoe 2 months ago 46
Play this clip with Bachs Passacaglia and Fugue, you'll love this jet even more
sonykroket 2 months ago
To all of us slavic people, we outran the stupid americans, bravo to mother russia
toughserb145 2 months ago 2
@toughserb145 yeah right, BRE! pozdrav iz nemacka and kudos to russia for this brilliant piece of technology!
m0rbusPolytox 4 weeks ago
stupid plane... the best aircraft they were able to produce was only a prototype... useless crap.
patskipats1 2 months ago
@patskipats1 ...only an ignorant thing will say that.... they were 12 of this one...5 are used on the acrobatic team...the layout its used on Su30MKI and the final "product" its Su35
mauricioalfredo83 2 months ago
Nowadays, is there still a need for aircraft that can maneuver fast? I mean, air to air / ground to air missles are pretty fast so physically dodging them isnt really that effective. Youd likely use some jamming or other decoys. And you dont need to have a aircraft in front of you to get a lock, you could likely lock on any aircraft around you. A fast aircraft is good for intercepts or to get away, but im not sure how fast turning helps when missles are flying around.
108Dax 3 months ago
@108Dax During the Vietnam war the F-4 Phantom suffered 1:1 kill ratios against far less advanced, yet more maneuverable, Russian made fighters. Out of that came Top Gun and later many American studies were done and the F-15 and F-16 (F-18 too) emerged putting much greater emphasis on agility. Russia also used the studies as well and to great effect. Fighters are extremely expensive so they need to do it all these days. Cant cut corners or you will die!
bujoun76 2 months ago
@bujoun76 I think the information age from the 90s improved processing power exponentially. The GPS system only became active in 1994 so that adds a lot in overall battlespace awareness. If you look at improvements in aircraft agility vs missle accuracy (+speed, +agility) has improved then it wont be long drones become the main attack aircraft. Cheaper to make, no experienced pilots lost, aircraft can handle more Gs. One gets shot down, pilot can move to another drone.
108Dax 2 months ago
@108Dax Drones will do much more as time goes on but even future air superiority drones will still place a strong emphasis on speed and maneuverability. Otherwise we might as well make a fleet of air-to-air B-1R or B-2 mass missile carriers. No amount of agility will help if and when enemy "fighters" catch-up to them! Also fighters are the only weapon that can target and destroy everything else, on the battlefield, including other fighters. You just can't pass that up!
bujoun76 2 months ago
BEAUTIFUL....................
727triturbine 3 months ago
dont care what fighterplanes the west has that russian fighter kicks there arses
TheRidgeback1974 3 months ago
Thumbs up
MrKingstontown2009 3 months ago
Nice.
Hullujenpieru 3 months ago
damnit I don't care about those camera people, Stop panning to them! I want to see the plane!
Nexgcs 3 months ago 22
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andy6white 1 month ago
@Nexgcs Best Part = 2:25
andy6white 1 month ago
@Nexgcs Copy the name and place in search:
Su 30 Extreme Maneuvers-Super cobra, Tail slide reversal, Fish hook breaks
Vanyaaynav 3 weeks ago
1:46 UFO
miguffx 3 months ago
Just never fuck with a Su-35
apodrez 4 months ago 2
I am very impressed by the russian pilots
fbazzoun 4 months ago
manuverability incresases the chance of of avoiding rockets to
kreso313 4 months ago
the su35 has a greater weapons range then the f18. that plus its mobility...well just think about the outcome.
acquiesce1993 4 months ago
0:40 Are they Chinese checking out the Russian aircraft?
patrickcorliss 4 months ago
@patrickcorliss China actually already has a custom version of the Sukhoi Su-30MKI.
RaggioazzuraX 4 months ago
its not just dog fight they cant survive a missile attack by making extreme turns and missile cant turn as fast ... but will explode or fall
YouTheory 5 months ago
The best way to describe this is that the plane is ''break dancing''
SellTheBenefits 5 months ago
Crazy fighter pilots, only in Russian Air Force (in Flankers). XP
arafat88ryu 5 months ago
What is with the distracting switches to negative? Wow, the camera has a negative switch. Is the video about the airplane, or the camera?
malamagr 6 months ago
The possibility of dogfights declines with the increase of military technology, but it still exists. In war, the lowest risk and highest chance of victory is always the path taken. With ground to air warfare technology it seems unlikely that air to air combat, especially airplanes chasing one another, would happen. This plane would likely rule a dogfight in the hands of the right pilot. From what I hear, Russian pilots are not nearly as skilled as other countries, rendering SU-35 less useful.
ProChoiceJesus 6 months ago
wow very agile, however the raptor is just as together with stealth will blow it out the sky, im from england and the euro fighter would be on par with the su's, however we have the usa as allies too.he he.
winstonchurchil1945 6 months ago
@winstonchurchil1945 That's true...but don't forge about the Sukhoi T-50 PAKFAs and the Chengdu J-20. It's a while till then but by that time the Eurofighter Typhoon and Raptor will start to show their age if they don't upgrade.
XA789 6 months ago
1:05. what.? 100 G's on the pilot? dang. its damn good.
fenderstratocaster96 6 months ago
@fenderstratocaster96 ...its called super cobra or cobra roll
mauricioalfredo83 5 months ago
RUSSIA FOREVER
srdjanjevremovic 6 months ago
after WWI piolts were saying there wont be more dogfight...after WWII pilots and "experts" were saying there wont be more dog fight....after korea they said the same....every one knwe what hapendes after those wars.
mauricioalfredo83 6 months ago
bad ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MyFalcon007 7 months ago
HOLY SHIT DID THAT THING JUST SUSPENDED ITSELF MID-AIR!?
JohnTraviss 7 months ago
I guess Angle of Attack doesn't matter for this planes :)
XStarss 8 months ago
i'm not hating on anyone, just saying that these maneuvers I have seen the raptor conduct, maybe no as tight, but pretty damn close to where any difference is negligible
kterris1 9 months ago
2:24 bringing out the hand-held STA-missile launcher!
olsenlid 9 months ago
2.33 to 2.40 special skill of Sukhoi
MultiTuLaLiT 9 months ago
Keren abiss..
MultiTuLaLiT 9 months ago
wow... in my opinion, this jet is number 1 in a dogfight, even an F-22 would struggle horribly to shake the Su-35 off its tail
Delphinus101 9 months ago
The engineering behind fighter jets is mind-boggling. Oh I forgot...blah blah blah russia blah blah america blah blah europe blah blah blah
R31K88 9 months ago
@R31K88 ppl would shut up if they only knew WTF are they talking about =P most of the arguments in youtube are caused by bad info, trust me, its like that =P
Loxleiev 9 months ago
Btw, 1 dislike is by some american f22 raptor fan :D
DirtyThing20 9 months ago
F-22 Raptor can do 10% of what Su - 37 can do..
DirtyThing20 9 months ago
Shite landing.
stubbostubbs 10 months ago
Oh PLEASE. WHAT use are these moves? By the time you do them, you have almost ZERO airspeed and therefore no manoeverability. You will get your arse shot off. Fine at air displays, otherwise USELESS.
stubbostubbs 10 months ago
@stubbostubbs I totally agree. These aircraft at airshows have optimal fuel, limited avionic packages to reduce weight, no external stores to reduce drag... A combat ready Su-35 could never perform any of these manuevers. They're just crowd pleasers. Just like the Mig 35 that failed miserably in the MMRCA competetion.
TheTequilaShooter 10 months ago
@TheTequilaShooter AWwww... another jealous idiot!
YaropolkMSK 9 months ago
@YaropolkMSK Not even, bud. You show me any of these doing these fancy stunts not flying clean and then I'll be impressed. Otherwise, a crop duster is just as good.
TheTequilaShooter 9 months ago
Love this planes...Russians made the best fighters in the world...Bravo!!!
DirtyThing20 10 months ago
@DirtyThing20 Theres plenty of them littered around the world having been shot down by Western technology. They do make good impact craters though!
stubbostubbs 9 months ago
@stubbostubbs LoL..You have very good fantasy..U should read a book, and create stories :D ..
DirtyThing20 9 months ago
@DirtyThing20 Fairy stories, I leave that to our Russian/Soviet bretheren. From aircraft to tanks, from subs to missiles. Soviets/Russians always talk big and produce crap/scrap !
stubbostubbs 9 months ago
@stubbostubbs Very good, now go to write a book, and call it "i`m american, and I write foolish fantasies" :DD
DirtyThing20 9 months ago
@DirtyThing20 Why would I do that seeing as how I`m British? Everytime Russian/Soviet military kit meets western kit, your stuff gets whacked. All through the middle East wars, you kit is scattered around the desert. The Brit Centurion tank crewed by Israelis, kicked the arse of your T54/5`s and T 62`s. Even though it was approx 15 years older in design. Iraq 1, whenever the Iraqi Migs came up to meet the western kit, yours got splashed etc etc etc
stubbostubbs 9 months ago
@stubbostubbs U equal two unequable things..Countries sell their old technique and devices..It is the same, like, somewhy, in airshows Su-27 crashes...Where was those crashes, in different countries, not in Russia...Somewhy it doesn`t happen in Russia..Why?..because they don`t sell everything they have, I mean high-tech...Same will happen with F22 in Iraq hands, sea harrier in Iraq hands and so on...So don`t talk a bullshit to me.
DirtyThing20 9 months ago
@DirtyThing20 Doesnt change the fact that soviet kit is crap compared to western kit. You make stuff that is CHEAP and can be manufactured quickly. Your mil doesnt care about the soldier that has to use/operate it. Life is cheap in the Russian mil. The F22 is turning out to be crap but the RAF Typhoon is turning out to be a star. It can do its tricks complete with external stores. If your Migs or SU`s tried their stupid manouevres with external stores it would fail, just like your TU144
stubbostubbs 9 months ago
@stubbostubbs says who? soviet "crap" has been always used by crappy 3rd world armies, whose training and tech was FAAAAAAR from being equal to western armies, no night vision, no thermal scopes, no aircraft, no AWACS, no nothing
russia and US ahve never fought against each other, the only pilot i remember fighting that was actually russian was during the korean war, and he proved the americans what a real russian could do with their planes
also soviet "crap" requieres minimum maintenance
Loxleiev 9 months ago
@Loxleiev Well Russian "Advisers" (Pilots), did come up against Yanks in Korea. After some initial successes (your Migs were powered by a British jet engine built under license), they then got totally hammered. The kill ratio was 10 dead Migs to 1 dead Yank. i`d say that says it all. Lo maintenance is cos they're shite! 2 Brit Centurions crewed by Israelis, held off 150 T62`s for 30 hrs. These 2 Centurions destroyed over 50 of your heaps in the fight.
stubbostubbs 9 months ago
@stubbostubbs im not russian =P
ummm again, you are talking about the whole korean campaign, the 10 to 1 its the general , not the aprticular russian vs yank statistic, doesnt count
we were talking about aircraft and u brought tanks into discution, which also were commaded by 3rd world armies, such as palestine and lebanon, russians and yanks ahve enver fought against each other, tank god they didnt....
maitenance its one of the most expensive and time consuming thing, resources u lack at war!!
Loxleiev 9 months ago
@Loxleiev FOR FUCKS SAKE.! Can you provide statistics where yanks took on russki pilots.....NO, obviously not (cos the russians will never admit to coming 2nd). Point being,, Western kit almost always beats Russian kit.
Stop being pedantic.
stubbostubbs 9 months ago
@stubbostubbs taht applies the same for western , they will enver admit they came in 2nd(the collpase of the soviet union was their own fault, not because of the west)XD dont get mad my friend, just because u can prove your point doesnt mean that im right either,
tehre no actual facts that can prove your point, theres no proof about americans and russian fighting, thats why its called "Cold war"
in tech, western is a just a little better than soviet, in costs and capabilities, russian is up ;-)
Loxleiev 9 months ago
@Loxleiev LOL. Collapse of the Soviet Union WAS because of the West. Maggie Thatcher encouraged reagan all the way. by promoting the Star wars project and other things, the Soviets went bankrupt trying to keep up.
stubbostubbs 9 months ago
hahahahahahahha watch on 2:24 for a moment a think that this guy wanted to shot the suhoy-35 hahahahahahahah
WATCH 2:24 hahahhah
SunEyes83 10 months ago
@SunEyes83 The guy has a fucking cannon for a camera.
Unit987654321 10 months ago
Why do you need maneuverability when you can launch missles without having to face the aircraft anymore? Sorry that US is way ahead of Russian planes, but there is no need to face each other anymore.
VictoryAHK 10 months ago
@VictoryAHK Rules of engagement still require a visual identification before you fire. You can't just shoot at a green dot on your screen, you have to visually identify. So yes, you might still need to face each other
copehaha 4 months ago
Awesome video. But in the end, it's all about the pilots skills. You could have all the technology of this world but a highly skilled pilot is priceless.
Coolflames101 1 year ago
Does anyone know the song to this video?
larryhurst3 1 year ago
Нашим лётчикам налёт бы как у америкосов, тогда тем в атмосфере Земли делать нечего будет, так как гонять их будут от Гренландии до Антарктиды, невзирая на F22 и F35, те всё равно так не могут летать.
nnz226 1 year ago
Dogfights are obsolete? Yeah... Us air force said that back in the sixties and therefore F-4 was fitted with air-to-air missiles only, and what happened? BVR is great theory but, we were often thought otherwise by practice! Hope never to find put who is wrong! PEACE
njegosh1 1 year ago
Thats one serious vulture that can bring the pain
tbmore59 1 year ago 2
RESPECT ROSSIA great land in the world.Respect
mihaivitro 1 year ago
that was a very bad landing.....
the nose landing gear could havve got damage badly...
HolyAngemon007 1 year ago
Question: is there any purpose in this high maneuverability outside airshows?
Darkonomist 1 year ago
@Darkonomist Yes of course, Fighters like this one (Sukhoi family), with such maneuverability have more chance to survive in the ''DOGFIGHT".
Marek883388 1 year ago 21
@Marek883388 You still get dogfights? Like planes chasing each other? I thought that was only in the past...
Darkonomist 1 year ago
@Darkonomist You never know, what brings you the future.
Marek883388 1 year ago 15
@Marek883388 Haha, ok
Darkonomist 1 year ago
@Marek883388 during vietnam US engineers thought the same as you, many F-4 were shot down because they didnt include any gun to it,
its most likely that planes enter in dogfights when defending a territory, the attackers would have to defend themselves so there u have your dogfight, course, its diffeerent, u keep trying to get a lock on it, like greeks and turks, search for taht video, its a real dogfight between 2 f-16s, greeks finally gets a lcok by making a high G turn, dogfight for sure!
Loxleiev 9 months ago
@Marek883388 they thought that 40 years ago, in Vietnam war (f-4 phantom, remember?).
VictorIndiaDeltaAlfa 8 months ago
@Marek883388 Very true my man, but it cuts into stealth when you have maneuvrability, and stealth will most likely be a larger advantage in modern warfare... I love the Sukhois, Migs, Lockheed Martins (?) and all the aircraft... Our largest threat is not eachother, but ourselves
MilitaryAircraft101 8 months ago
@Darkonomist the armament to f-22 consuming very fast and results not guaranted dawn Su or Mig because contrameasurings to this russian plane is better in the world, and afther that??? when finish armament ???
F-22 fly 1200 km
Su -35 fly 3000 km
Su have most powerfool missile, and speed better than f-22.
Russian have best contrameasuring anti plane in the worl.
Mig-31 have big radar in the world and fly very high, with 10 Mig-31 in ear they make a web radar, f-22 cannot pierce this radar
MigMFITheBest 1 year ago
@MigMFITheBest I know a bloke with a HUGE cock but the women he shags says he`s useless !
stubbostubbs 9 months ago
@Darkonomist look here: SU-35 Radar System awsome must see
MigMFITheBest 1 year ago
@Darkonomist
Plus it makes evading long ranged missles much easier, because they are much less nimble and maneuverable than smaller short ranged ones. And the fact that a pilot doing a cobra maneuver disappears off of radar for a short period of time, it can come in handly :D
KillerAyvaz 1 year ago
@Darkonomist dogfights will always happen. USAF likes to think that they are a thing of the past, and that technology will make dogfights obsolete. Very bad overconfident logic. Strategy on paper never resembles what takes place on the ground. In Vietnam they had to fit a cannon onto their F4s, because the original design didn't include one. They were kicking themselves for that one in the first stages of the war.
Spets25 11 months ago
@Darkonomist when you run out of missiles, you still have a vulcan...
gibbo1112 10 months ago
@Darkonomist i believe it was the early F-4 phantoms that were completely no gun-fighter that brought about the realisation that while dogfighting in its true sense was a propfighter activity, going guns and turn fighting is still very possible and not unlikely even in the modern "BVR" air battles hence why super maneuverability is back on the cards. Also having the ability to snap turn can assist in IR missile snapshots and missile evasion
kineticdeath 9 months ago
@Darkonomist Dogfights are more common than rocket shooting, as it was proven in Vietnam where Americans were forced to put back cannons on F-4 because in almost all cases cannon-less F-4 was in dogfight.
XStarss 8 months ago
@Darkonomist
There were actually a few dogfights within visual range that happened during Operation Desert Storm between our Eagles and Iraqi MiG's.
TheRooster456 7 months ago
@Darkonomist
dont act dumb~ there will always be dogfights like a soldier shooting another soldier with a rifle and bullet~ like i punch you with my fist and kick you with my leg~ "i thought that was only in the past like i spank you with my dick"~
zomgbbqwth 7 months ago
@Darkonomist It also does have an impressive radar system.
TEHGROUND 6 months ago
@Darkonomist Cowards fight at night under stealth crap,,,braves fight face to face.
qasion 6 months ago
@Darkonomist Yes of course, its just like with new generation F-22 and EF-2000, all have high maneuverability.
PS3GameProductions 5 months ago
@Marek883388 Actually, Russian concept of dogfight includes high AoA manuever using TVC - however, US test during 90's with X31 has concluded that speed is much more important than AoA. Even F-22's TVC is used not for dogfight, but for short distance take-offs. This is because due to missiles such as Aim-9X that you do not need high AoA in order to launch missile. Aim-9X / Python 5 can be launched to any 360 degree boresight.
looxgood 11 months ago
@looxgood by AoA you mean high alpha?
gibbo1112 10 months ago
@gibbo1112 yes, Angle of Attack - F-18E/F has unlimited AoA. The reason is due to its attack anlge is full 360 degrees - it does not have to point its nose on enemy to launch its missile - it can launch the missile at target that is at 180 degrees (at 6 o'clock) location. Therefore, its all about energy maintenance for US - where as for Russian aircraft, its all about super manueverbility. It is a doctrinal difference of aircraft design for both countries.
looxgood 10 months ago
@looxgood AoA is also the angle at wich the air hits the wings, and sukhois can do god damned backflips...
but thats why i was confused, when you said unlimited AoA i thought, "well, just coz theyre doin backflips doesnt mean unlimited AoA..." but the missile thing makes more sense...
gibbo1112 10 months ago
@Marek883388 avoid missiles turn back to enemy's !!
TheKifinas 9 months ago
@Marek883388 Bollocks. Do this with a loaded aircraft and it`ll snap. if it doesnt snap, it`ll get splattered as it tries to build up its lost airspeed. ZERO AIRSPEED = ZERO MANOUEVERABILITY=DEAD!
stubbostubbs 9 months ago
@Marek883388 The vector-thrust-with-canard Su's are amazing, I think they are more maneuverable than any Western planes, but I think they would lose in combat because Western countries have a lot more money for training time. If Russia & Ukraine can't even afford much practice flying for the few planes doing airshows, how can they afford enough training for hundreds of combat planes? Also they almost couldn't shoot down Korean Airlines, it nearly got away without even needing to dogfight at all.
malamagr 6 months ago
@Marek883388 only in close range, if a missles locked on ......... instakill
liverpool0690 5 months ago
@Marek883388 May experienced fighter pilots say it does nothing in a Dog fight. Technology , Weapons and Range is what wins a modern dog fight.
vfIskullangel 5 months ago
@vfIskullangel well it has all that too...
TheKvant1 5 months ago
@Darkonomist The folly of Us tech is that there aren't any counter measures, there has never been a games simulation type war where one side just pushes buttons and the other falls.
Even in ancient times arrows could harm the enemy at long distance but no war was decided by them!
celpabedn 1 year ago
@Darkonomist yes to destroy shitty american planes in close combat
htpm100 1 year ago
@Darkonomist If americans would like to have a war with Russia, there will be lots of dog fighting :) ...Russian wins...That`s why america is so scared of Russia..
DirtyThing20 10 months ago
@DirtyThing20 Bollox. Even IF you got a 10 to 1 kill ratio, the yanks massively superior numbers will kick your arse.
stubbostubbs 10 months ago
@stubbostubbs :DDDDD Loser go away..
DirtyThing20 10 months ago
@DirtyThing20 Hey Dickhead. Have you seen the projected finishing stats for the Indian MMRCA competition? The Mig 35 ans Sukhoi 30 got well and truly TWATTED by the Eurofighter. LOL LOL LOL
stubbostubbs 10 months ago
@stubbostubbs LOL idiot, give me the link, i`ll prove that you are trated :D
DirtyThing20 10 months ago
@Darkonomist Morale
MagnesiumAlloy 10 months ago
@Darkonomist Only to fool fools....
stubbostubbs 9 months ago
@Darkonomist Уход от приследующего неповоритливого противника, его дезориентация в пространстве, заход в хвост и уничтожение. understandable? Есть один анекдот: Двое мужчин собираются на охоту на медведя. Один из них одевает ботинки, а второй спортивные кроссовки. Первый спрашивает у второго: "Зачем тебе кроссовки? Неужели в случае опасности ты в них сможешь бежать быстрее медведя?" Второй отвечает: "Нет, но я смогу бежать быстрее тебя. И этого достаточно."
MrFSG1984 8 months ago
@Darkonomist SUs are the best fighter planes in the world and dog fights stil exists. For example Greek and Turkish fighters engage into dogfights every day (without shooting real missles). So it is utopic to say "who needs that maneuverability"..... It is like saying who needs FERRARI or LAMBOs OR PORSHIE since there is a small chance of someone driving at their top speed!!!
varadero21 6 months ago
@Darkonomist
For 4th generation fighters, maneuverability is occassionally useful, but its rarely a deciding factor.
For 5th generation fighters, its useless.
ExAstris37 6 months ago
@Darkonomist ...since alway have been dogfight...even when stupid people think and say it wont be it on future, just remember when hapens after WWI, WWII, korea and vietnam....
mauricioalfredo83 5 months ago
Russians are skillful Pilots...Who needs stealth when you have real skill?
blademanx 1 year ago
2:34 the greatest maneuver in the world
i love sukhoi and their fantastic engineering
Wyvern0110 1 year ago
RUSSIA you are the number ONE-Bravo!!!Respect from germany born to Romania
mihaivitro 1 year ago
@mihaivitro Asa e, ma bucur ca am un conational care vede ingineria Rusa cea mai buna din lume, simpla, eficace, ieftina, durabila, si fara complicatii ca cea americana.
Ceva de gen "deutsch qualitat" dar fiecare cu particularitatile sale.
Salutari!
MigMFITheBest 1 year ago
Bravo RUSIA-respect!!! good engineering
mihaivitro 1 year ago
Временами очень мешает видео эффект - "инверсия цвета"...портит все удовольствие от просмотра. Нафига нужно было это вводить?
OttoSkortseni 1 year ago
Min 1:25 is the best acrobacy in the world.
F-22 and F-35 never but never cant do this mamaneuver.
Russia NR.1
Su-35 is most over american plane.
PAK-Fa Nr. 1 from 50 years future.
MigMFITheBest 1 year ago 2
I'm vary pro US and US designed fighters...but even I have to say...WOW!
amorrison1 1 year ago 12
БОРТ 709 это старый Су-35 он выступал в Дубаи еще в 1993 году.
BOART 709 is an old Su-35, he performed in Dubai in 1993.
maxispeed0 2 years ago
@maxispeed0 Причем здесь БОРТ вообще?
vesanian 1 year ago
@vesanian Действително
maxispeed0 1 year ago
This is a mix of the Su-30MKI and the defunct Su-37
estrume69 2 years ago
That's the crashed SU-37. The SU-35BM has no canards. Besides, how can this be MAKS 2009 if this was posted on June 8? =)
AkidUA99 2 years ago
Thing's a monster. Wonder what will happen when the PAK comes out.
EagleOneoOne 2 years ago
Yes you cam see the demo of SU-30Mk and SU-35BM in MAKS 2009 and bleive me SU-30MK is More agile
taboot77 2 years ago
Su-37 is more agile becouse of canards which is removed from new SU-35
taboot77 2 years ago
BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you think su-37 is more naveuverable because of the canards?! think before saying this bullshit again
su-35BM is a lot more advanced that su-37!
skyraptor 2 years ago
su 35 and su 37 are the same beast. Su 37 was a testbed for the Su35 which is going into production.
lynx29 2 years ago