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  • excellent video, very clear

  • Very good video, explained in a simple, perfectly intelligible way. Mystics, but also philosophers, naturally advance science: Democritus & atomism, for instance. Plotinus, & Plato before him, argued for both the unity from which we are generated & the physical world as shadow of a ultimate reality. As for the fact that there's no definite scientific conclusions one has only to read Popper. There's so much rubbish on the net & YT, especially about science & metaphysics, this was quite refreshing

  • I come to two conclusions with respect to the method through which we accomplish the eschaton.

    1) we develop some sort of technology that reduces the distance between any two people to literally zero and a type of telepathic link is created.

    or

    2) the earth gets hit by a asteroid

    either way, we'll all end up together.

    peace brothers and sisters

  • Do you believe that various individuals are at different points in time? EG What if somepeole who were imrisoned eg Galileo or killed Martin L King were ahead of the group mentality.

    Others who had known various things above others were using it for themselves and those who spoke out were kept quiet.

    Then there is the group mentality that hinders the ability to accept a greater reality because it did not fit with the rest of the peoples thoughts so it was discarded.

    nothing is random.

  • Related to cycles of completion take note of the 11 Feb 2011 date and it's relation to the Tzolkin which Carl Calleman has already talked about. This is the day that Mubarak resigned as head of Egypt just a few days ago. This corresponds to the energy of the first period/day of energy related to the period of the mid 1700's leading up to the American Revolution (1775)

  • GOD MADE OUR WORLD

    JUST JOKING XD

  • there is not an omega point. but a gift to live a great dream,,,to live your life is to make a begining in a start of relivence of your time....the best you can do is try and make a change in the omega point...the soul that you have is a god given gift and when your life ends you will be where you are.there will and can not be any hell....because we are a being that has a soul that will supper sied that.god bless you,.

  • I found this very interesting. Just thought I would suggest a parable to explain your ultimate unity - the omega point. Say the soul of every man is a gene in the soul of 'God'. These genes are currently under development, but when they are complete they will combine to bring about a qualitative change - i.e. the birth of God.

  • "....a prolonged and complex struggle, with liberty the stake...." Eisenhowers' Farewell Address Jan 17 1961 Psychiatry is genocide zsezse com

  • What is the FIRST vid that comes up when you search for Frank J. Tipler?

  • hmmm well time is the key you are on the right path but GOD is till there Sir... Basic life is not something you shall be aware now humans are on the lower levels of vibrating stability time can not control it so its a problem to the omega point

  • i have always liked this video, thanks

    I admire your peaceful "adab" disposition inside

  • i think this is what the whole mayan "2012" thing is talking about. Not the end of the world, but maybe the end of the world as we know it?

  • The Omega Point, as described here, is concentrating only on our earth, and the evolution of life and its complexity here. Our earth is temporal, as is life on it. This explanation ignores the expanding universe. If there were an attracting force, it would have to attract the universe in its many directions. Half-baked notions are not new, and even half-baked is better than none. We attempt to think, at least.

  • This explanation seems to concentrate on a linear view of time and space, and the increasing complexity on our earth being drawn to an omega point. It doesn't take into account the entire universe as it is expanding in all directions, and the elements going further and further apart. This seems to be a religious notion, as it is described here. The internet is a passing earthly phenomenon, just as the human race on our earth may be a passing phenomenon.

  • this is Terrance McKenna's trip, the eschaton,. im loving it, my personal premise on time (as a theory) is that it isn't a linear entity but it appears to us that way because we are in a phase of humanity that is concerned with linear speech; the technology that is language; relying on a linear perception of time to function. time shouldn't be classed as a dimention at all, if we know so little about it/

  • the eschaton!, the singularity, it s a space in time of sudden change. (sudden in the cosmological scale), alternatively seen as a point of density in the ever expanding scale of the universe, perhaps its too huge to appreciate fully for us, even though we are part of it, because otherwise we wouldn't know of it, perhapse we are the next evolution of the universe in flux, perhaps we are a transition. i don't know,

  • And what happens to the "complexity of consciousness" if beings dissapear? I mean, suppose that life in Earth would had never been conceived (nor in any other place), and there is no being that can develop "consciousness", then; in "what" would the -complexity factor- rely on?

  • what happens when we reach the omega point?

    how far away is the omega point, like on the diagram he showed the omega point is right after humans but what if the omgea point is so much more further away in time?

    can someone help answer this questions? or even if im asking the right questions?

  • profound concepts, Frank Tipler inspired me years ago though Jack Sarfatti's current theories suggesting that we are surrounded by a past and future horizon with the latter being responsible for dark matter and energy via feedback loops, as well as having a singularity attached to it all is very appealing. a future god created by man that can time travel, whatever next..

  • the internet is a fake step in complexity that was made by man instead of gifted from the divine. so the a true step in is a gift from the divine to the ones who were close to it and searched for the truth. the divine will send the seekers this gift when are ready to receive it . trust in God and only God.

  • The Universal Faith of Catholicism is based on this. We do not plant ideas into people's hearts and minds by the Gospel of Jesus Christ, rather, Natural Reality, as God, as afore time seeded the mind with subconscious feelings and thoughts that the Gospel resonates with and draws out from the heart. All Civilization is coalescing towards a Judgment Day with God, and Jesus wants the people to have a really Good Day of it. Jesus taught us that real Sons of God love their enemies.

  • Well done.

  • nice theory but how complex can we get until we reach the omega point completly? does it pull us towards it forever like there would be another point pulling the omega point so it can go on forever? Just some thoughts

  • 2012 is too soon to be the Omega Point. 2012 is just going to be another year. We humans are not intelligent enough( yet ) to predict when we will reach the Omega Point in time.

  • @th3a4r0n66 the week in december in 2012 is going to be chaos in a lot of places. And our movies, shows, and talk about it is not helping. But what sucks the most is that if it is real, i would have spend my entire life in school. CRAP!

  • Omega Point and McKenna's Time Wave Zero theory and the compression of time into an infinite state have many similarities. Entheogens are a superb way to prepare oneself for such a hyper-complexified super info dense reality state.

    Research: Terence McKenna, Robert Anton Wilson, Ayahuasca, entheogens, psychedelic mushrooms, James Arthur, shamanism, soundlessdawn, iamlegend333, Ralph Metzner, Red Ice Radio, Graham Hancock, and Stanislav Grof.

    Gnothi seauton et pax tecum.

  • time travel 2012

  • maybe this is true because we are already living in a computer-simulated universe

  • What about Doctor Who time?

  • Awesome, thank you for posting this, I had not known this about the omega point. Are you familier with the works of Andrew Cohen, Ken Wilber, Sri Aurobindo, I think thease brilliant people all share the same philosophy as you. I have noticed recently that my intersubjectiy awareness has been increasing, and I can even feel it online and those I feel it with confirm, is there a way to gage how close we are?

  • I see a major flaw with this whole theory (at least as you state it).

    You take the Omega Point to be fact, then say the premises support it. How can you say with certainty that the internet could not have existed before the 1900's JUST because the lack of energy from the Omega Point?

    Furthermore, where is the evidence for ANY of this? We accept scientific theories because of evidence. Where exactly is your evidence for Omega Point?

  • We can not technically prove anything could not have existed before a certain time, until time travel via ERB is proven impossible.

    The omega point is obviously something he believes COULD be a possible framework of our universe, and that statement was under the assumption that the theory was true. It was simply a possibility (that he unfortunately made to look like he was stating it as a fact).

    I could be wrong, I don't think I am though, not on this one. :)

  • @garrettducat

    Sounds like you are describing evolution.

  • "and we know that behind the physical world is the divine reality"

    Umm, how do we know that?

  • Lot of speculations, though intresting theory.

  • Interesting theory; well done video Its calm, collective, and informative. In my philosophy we are all saying the same thing just in different ways. I am thankful to see this and thank you for taking the time to share. -Dave-

  • i wish i was born 1000 years from now or a million, just to see how we avance

  • You would get the biggest pit in your stomache. I think you'd be sick. It would be like watching independence day only the united earth, good guys, lose. You would sob, "oh no....OH no....."

    and you'd be back at the Hindenburg understanding 'the humanity of it all'.

    I don't think you want to see that. I think you'd rather have the optimistic, allbeit naive, outlook that you share here and now.

    I appreciate your point of view though. In a way, I wish I could share it with you.

  • so did the people 1000 years ago

  • not in spelling i guess. "avance"

  • @ffinfinity1 for one thing we might spell 'advance' correctly. HAHA, just joking, man - I'm totally with you on that... but will we need to be born, eh?

  • I just wish we never lose past-life memories anymore.

  • you probly will be :)

  • awsome video.

  • This is great and all, but what if the universe isn't closed? The entirety of the OPT hinges on this as only in a closed universe can infinite complexity/information be achieved. Otherwise the speed of light and entropy will always be an issue. Another thing- I really want to belive the OPT too, but when you sell it like religion, which essentially it is not (although philosophically it can be said to be) you will lose the respect of the scientific community.

  • Are you sure that is so?

    I thought The Omega Point is synonymous with God/Jesus/Holy Ghost of Christian theologian doctrine.

    At least, that's what I've read so far, this is essentially a pseudo-Christian idea of ultimate divinity, God-mind, multiverses, universal collapse, at a point of infinite informational capacity and output known as the Omega Point.

    Please correct me if the research I have done has mislead me. In that response if you leave one, I just ask you do not attack Christianity.

  • This seems right in tune with the "Body of Christ" idea as well as with other religions' assertions regarding the unity of all things: "Everything is Everything." If the general Omega theory becomes more and more popular, Christians should feel gratified, not threatened. Read C. S. Lewis's Mere Christianity for his sense of human destiny--similiar to all this. Fascinating!!

  • @4cellar2door0 Yes you are right. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin who 1st coined the term was a Jesuit Catholic priest so the idea has Christian origins but since then it has gained currency in other in other theological and philosophical circles.

  • This kind of future for the humanity consciousness is very plausible but I don't see the need for an omega point...too much speculative. Plus I don't think Teihlard de Chardin said anything far like this.

  • This coincides with Calleman's mayan calander theory.

    It also resonates with Unified Field Theory :)

    Awesome video, thanks.

  • would you consider the omega point Teleological?

  • This seems related to Kurzweil's concept of the technological singilarity but from a more spiritual angle.

    Good video.

  • I agree with you completely up to one point, that being when you say that as we progress we'll become more unified, the reason for the omega point it diversity and independence, being able to branch out, not connect together with each other and becoming one, mental being. That seems like a step back to me.

  • The elite have been killing people off for milleniums who speak up about how they've created slaves, serfs, peasents, and workers and kept them trapped in sense experience so as to maintain power and control. Divide and conquer.

    They've sold out their souls to create a narcissistic menagerie where people seek outside themselves, consumers or addicts. Were way off track. Its all inside, see the prison and how its been constructed for world domination of a few.

  • Say, like five (or whatever other number you pick) divine beings which continually play together, creating reality and then experiencing it, over and over, infinitely?

  • your a good man i know what your talking about

  • We're gonna find out what this is that we are in, and what we're suppose to be doing.

    The elite have divided and conquered unity consciousness, trapped people in sense experience as "reality," validated with money they own, and want slaves, serfs, peasents and are killing to keep this narcissistic menagerie going. It won't work. End narcissism with understanding and contact. We're running behind scheduale.

  • creationism makes no sense.

    trying to draw some kind of meaning from it is like trying to explain the existance of monsters because of things that go bump in the night!

    i heard somthing, you heard it too, there must be somthing there!

    boooo!!!

  • Why does creation need a purpose?

  • I talk about why you need purpose in my Theory Omega & I talk about great many things.

  • the internet can connect people like cell phones and other technology, its getting more advanced..What does OMEGA POINT PRecit??? that people are going to find ways to do what they like, its no coincidence myspace and youtube are popular, People enjoy it thats why....Its not much of a prediction that its going to expand we are already connected its just a matter of surrounding yourself by the people want in your life

  • my question is, taking all this as true and that it is indeed happening (I always treat ideas other people buy into with skepticism) what would unity mean - both for me as an individual and for us as a species?

  • Thank you for this, you speak very eloquently.

  • can people quit arguing the Big Bang Theory. a large number of scientists dont even agree with the Big Bang Theory any more. Read up on the revised Big Expansion Theory.

  • GOOD MAN;;;

  • I just noticed that you have no negative comments and I'm having a hard time believing that you never got any for this video. It can be extrapolated from what you said that technological advancements happen on their own. That discredits the blood sweat and tears of those working towards an advanced society. Also not all creatures are advanced like humans, just look at trees, insects, and herps, and other mammals. I mean, just look at Africa! So the mystics have known from the beginning?

  • You are right on - touching on the issue of internet in connection with higher connectivness and consciousness is something that I was thinking but have never heard anyone say in quite this way. Great!!!

  • "The omega point is a Singularity point"

    A theoretical singularity point

    that can never actually be reached,

    since there is always room for increment

    of complexity.

  • "The omega point is a Singularity point"

    A theoretical singularity point

    that can never actually be reached,

    since there is always room for increment

    of complexity.

  • is it not possible from unity to leave and to unity to return?

  • as you move toward a shadow do they not just seem more and more like a blackness and the details fade away.

  • I think you have many good points in this video, and that you are a well spoken individual. I like the way you look at the omega point. Well done!

  • now where your theory lets you down is that fact that you are saying that it started with the big bang, so my theory about time being able to stop if we have one color left is true, because what happened before the big bang or what did the big bang look like, answer is it was one color and this does not stop what we call time instead it pauses it ready for next life i believe that it will never end and that it can not end if it has not started, you may think im crazy but so does everyone else.

  • Totally agree with you dude.

    The future is mind developing and connection.

    Communication and interaction on higher level.

    Peace.

  • One Love. =]

  • so basically our human bodies are omega pointless

  • im going to be straight up honest. this vid is trippin me right out... and i think the guy is right in a lot of ways. possibly all. i notice weird things within the world today. points me to beleive many odd things. but my experiences have showed me that we must unite in unity as is talked about. unity is key in the body and mind.

  • Pierre Teilhard de Chardin "We are not human beings having spiritual experiences, we are spiritual beings having human experiences."

  • The omega point is a Singularity point

  • there is no point because there is no end meaning that there is no start, every point is just a human expression of imagination, point can not come into the the theory of time or atleast the real theory of time, we use point so that it can be comprehened into the human matter, and because we can not see the future the answer is beyond our human brain so it needs to come outside the box, but im affaid the big bang is just not good enough.

  • kershaw, i dont know what will happen in decemeber 2012 but im going to mexico before the 21st comes ^^

  • nice

  • omega approaches...

  • The omega point attracting force corresponds to Einstein's cosmological constant and the observations that the universe is accelerating in it's expansion.

  • As a speaker about the subject I enjoyed the information and the way you explained it. I know that this subject is difficult at times to translate in a 10 minute or less video. I will keep an eye out for any new videos you put up and I will enjoy seeing your progress. There is much to learn but you have to admit it is exciting knowing that radical changes are happening much more quickly than many realize. Hang on baby this is going to be a wild ride, Hummanity will never be the same!

  • isnt internet and youtube simply a development in technologies, driven by consumer demands?

    also, do you believe that the world will end [or change dramatically] in 2012?

    arthur

  • is there somewhere on t.v. i can view something that explains the omega point?

  • Pro fano. The Omega Point is actually the triumph of Genesis -- the gene of Isis.

  • I believe that as we approach the omega point a convergence of the sciences occurs where man and machine merge with concuisness. Could the strange attactor simply be the denses part of our galaxy the galatic center? I find it funny that we look up and say that entropy is ruling the universe yet were growing more and more complex could we be going backwards in time thinking were moving forward? only "time" will tell

  • but what of the creation of the world? where does it fit in with respect to the movement towards point omega? if the world is moving towads something by the pull, implicitly then it has to be moving from something, doesn't it? in that case, can't you not argue that there are two point omegas and not just one?

  • The Omega Point theory as first proposed by Chardin and later by Terence McKenna does imply a pulling towards.

    If you look at 'time' and complexity as the distance away from the Omega Point than we are moving closer to it and further from the periphery. Look at it this way, the big bang is the further evidence of the corona of the Omega attractor. And if you can rise above the temporal fabric that we are moving in then it is possible to cross this boundary to different points.

  • Yeah, Alpha and Omega.

    The beginning is in the end.

  • Are you of the persuasion that once we reach the Attractor, because complexity will be at its fullest, everything conceivable to the human imagination will happen simultaneously? And if so, what does that mean (ie could you expound on what you think will happen once we reach the attractor)?

  • 2012 Omega Point may be a local attractor in a network of attractors. At the least some kind of spreading telepathy/connected-ness will manifest. We will at least start to coalesce into a super-mind. Calleman's Mayan Calendar interpretation says that in the last 260 days of the cycle will see as much change as all [human] history. Whether the event is the second coming, etc. no one can be sure because of where we are. Remote viewers say there is a barrier preventing them seeing beyond it.

  • What you are saying here kind-of ties in with Peter Russell's Global Brain theory. I think telepathy will certainly be the next stage of evolution.

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