Mosin Nagant 91/30: History, Shooting, and Cleaning

[Jellyroll405]

Since the sites are fixed on the Mosin and it does seem to fire high right, instead of punching out the site and all that other stuff, just use a little Kentucky windage and get to know your weapon. Nice tip on the dish soap though to break down the salts.

[M1Garandstudios]

Ive seen Mosins from 1926 and 1925 so they were made before 1930 but cool video

[taylor1051891]

I believe the sights for the Mosin Nagant actually aren't in meters, they're measured in a Russian measurement of arshins, which in yards translates to about 77 yards per 100 arshins. 1 Arshin= about 28 inches

[CivicChuk]

@taylor1051891 After the revolution in 1917 the Soviets converted from arshins to meeters, so on the 91/30 the sights are in fact measured out in meters. Its on the M1891 that you will find the sights to be measured out in arshins.

[TheyxSeexMexTrollin]

YAY SURPLUS!

[PiGood]

Most of the 91/30s that were re-arseneled were resited without the bayonet so it is rare to find one that is sited for a bayonet. Also raising the front site post will not fix aiming to the right, that will fix high impacts, likely caused by using light ball surplus rather then the heavy ball it was designed for.

[thechadi721]

60 - 100 hundred or thousand????

[TheSlappy95]

DIRTY COMMIES!!!

[CivicChuk]

@TheSlappy95 Would you care to follow that up with a logical argument?

[TheSlappy95]

@CivicChuk

haha I was just kidding. I actually Think the ideology is close to perfection.

[CivicChuk]

@TheSlappy95 haha, its all good

[a2redneck]

as soon as i turn 18 im getting a mosin nagant. i asked for one for christmas, but my parents say "it will blow up in your face!" i still want one. its a nice rifle.

[MrPennyworth007]

is the recoil comparable to a garand?

[CivicChuk]

@MrPennyworth007 I've never fired a Garand, although I hear the recoil is indeed similar

[PiGood]

@MrPennyworth007 A little bit stronger due to the M91/30 being a bolt action, but they are fairly close.

[HordePally4u]

I just got my mosin nagant the other day and i was trying to find a way to clean all the cosmoline (forgive spelling) but just so everyone knows this is the trunks stage theme song from super butoden dragon ballz i believe

[deerhunter2532]

what happend to shooting and cleaning

[CivicChuk]

@deerhunter2532 Cleaning info @ 1:55 Shooting info @ 2:10

[ernestas111]

60 to 100 dollars? That's cool

[ARTONY92]

i swear this is on the runway level in goldeneye. im going to check it

[CivicChuk]

@ARTONY92 I wish it was, but sadly no

[mullyscans]

why zero w/ the bayonet? im just asking.

[MILLATERYBOY]

With the m44 do they sight it in with the bayonet in or folded out

[CivicChuk]

@MILLATERYBOY Generally, the M44 is sighted in with the bayonet extended--otherwise your groups will tend to impact to the upper corner of the target (assuming that your point of aim is the center of the target).

[finessewes9119]

that was really helpful thanks. I am really considering buying one. but am still doing research on where i can get one in my area.

[tk42295]

i love how this gun doesnt have a safety haha i suppose the bolt acts as one but when i got mine at first i was like wtf?

[treebark109]

great video! water does work good for cleaning. i used to just poor the water down the barrel....that sucked! i like your method better lol thanks!!

[TaZ101SAGA]

The Magazine isnt permentantly fixed. Pull the latch at the rear to open the magazine then bend it foward, compress the spring all the way and pull and it comes right out.

[ajohnson]

Really, you have to clean the barral within 30 minutes after shooting corrosive surplus ammo? Packing up and my drive home from the range is about an hour till I can clean the gun, is this bad!

[screamineagle91]

@ajohnson That's not bad at all. By the time I clean up my station after shooting, get everything packed up, drive home and get all my cleaning stuff ready I'm looking at a few hours at best. Ideally you want to clean your gun when it's still hot, that way you get more of that corrosive crap outta the barrel when it's still loose. Just don't wait 2-3 days or a week to clean it. That could cause some rust problems. But your just fine cleaning it an hour or two later, no prob.

[treebark109]

@screamineagle91 oh it will form rust after week. i know cause it happend to one of mine lol. had a mother of a time getting that crap outa there but it shoots just fine now! lol. CLR works good for removing it

[screamineagle91]

@treebark109 CLR is great stuff! I've used that before as well. These old school rifles take a little more time to clean and take care of but it sure is worth it!!

[chimichanga1254]

9i heard these shoot up is that true

[spawnslayer22]

wat grain?

[CivicChuk]

@spawnslayer22 148 grain bullet, 49 grain powder I believe.

[spawnslayer22]

@CivicChuk any good online stores for ammo?

[SrChickenSlayer]

@spawnslayer22 try cheaper than dirt .com 440 round can of russian surplus ammo cost 100 bucks

[chyorttt]

@CivicChuk some are heavier, i have some 203 grain bullets

[CivicChuk]

@chyorttt My bad, when I replied, I thought I was replying to my other video "Loading a Mosin Nagant" where I use 148 grain ammunition. The Mosin uses cartridges that range from having 124 grain bullets (East German training ammunition) up to the original cartridges produced in 1891, which utilized 210 grain bullets if I recall correctly.

[spawnslayer22]

wat type of ammo does it shoot?

[CivicChuk]

@spawnslayer22 7.62x54r

[spleenblender]

Thanks so much.

[motlencore89]

still 800 lbs of pressure at 1,000 yards

[splatterviz]

Another good Mosin movie....Dersu Uzala.

[roadrunner681]

thanks just bought one for 100 bucks trying to find info on it

[riflesofallcalibers]

Great vid! I have one myself. My bolt kept catching on to something when I pulled the bolt handle up after firing. It was really hard to get it up. Anyone know what that might be?

[bowhuntz123]

@riflesofallcalibers If you can't get it up, try some Viagra!

[TaZ101SAGA]

Very helpful video, cheers mate.

[CivicChuk]

@TaZ101SAGA thanks! Glad it helped!

[jimgeebeme]

Two things, The receiver is actually in the shape of a hexagon not an octagon and the bolt cocks on closing.hth

[jrakichbaby]

@jimgeebeme NO, it cocks, on opening the bolt, which is half the reason people complain of "sticky bolt" syndrome (cosmo being the rest). and NO, it is not a hexagonal receiver, despite the common US name "hex." It is an octagonal receiver, although this is debatable to some. see 7.62x54r (.net) /MosinID/MosinTheOp.htm and scroll down the page to "octagonal or Hexagonal receiver?"

[ekiss2010]

I had recently bought a bayonet from the gun shop and it is hard as hell to fit on and i had to use a brass hammer to get it off... any suggestions on how to get it on and off better?

the bayonet didn't come with the rifle...

[CrystalHunter1989]

Nice video, but don't forget that the Imperial Russians adopted the weapon in 1891 (hence 91/30).

[SecretSpetsnaz]

Awesome Trivia About This Rifle!! !Love this rifle Going to buy it sooner or later XD!!!

[SibTender]

The correct name "Mosin's rifle" (rus - vintovka Mosina or Mosinka or Triehlineika)

[ARTONY92]

are you sure this song wasnt on Goldeneye? it sounds like it would be...

[CivicChuk]

Positive...although I wish it was!

[FrosDOwnz]

Go to Shootersforever and check the board for Goldeneye 007.

There is a thread labeled "The Fake Citadel Song"

We figured out who the composer was (Ken Goach, used to work at IBM, now a software engineer at Dell, found a post on a site for Gravis UltraSound Frequently Asked Questions, the original midi was made in 1993)

Alex Rasmussen made a version using 8-bit sounds from the original Nintendo.

This is a sample midi that comes with the Gravis UltraSound drivers.

Thank god for IBM, eh?

[mautsta19]

its hard to eject the cartridge on my mosin,i have to pull back really hard,does anyone know why and how to fix it?

[Darkangelofthelight]

one thing that might help is that you need to take a bigger brush and get the part of the chamber that the wide part of the bullet sits in. alot of times the cosmaline is still in there and once it fires it heats up the cosmoline and that makes it alot harder to eject the case

[LacrosseRifleShooter]

Im sorry you where right I posted my correction to early. The 91/30 was in service from 1930 to 1945. My appologies, I thought the only modifications to the rifle were the sniper versions, the cavalry versions, and the M44 compact rifle.

[CivicChuk]

No worries.  Hopefully you enjoyed the video.

[LacrosseRifleShooter]

The Mosin Nagant M91/30 was in service from 1891 to 1945 as a standard rifle, and towards 1963 as a sniper, replaced by the Dragunov SVD, the standard replaced by the SKS Autoloading Rifle.

[Deutsche22]

Can anyone please answer this question please? I just bought a 91/30 and heard that they are sighted in the factory with bayonet fixed. The question is, my front sight is about a millimeter or less askewed to the right in it's "seat". Should it be that way or flush seated in the front sight mechanism? Was wondering if I should tap it into place or leave it due to the fixed bayonet pre-sighting. Thanks for anyone's help!

[DonMeaker]

My Mosin Nagant is Finnish...The worlds highest scoring sniper was a Finn, with 512 Russian kills.

[762x54mmR]

Mosin Nagant 91/30s weren't sighted in with the bayonets on. M44s, with their permanently attached bayonets, are the ones that were sighted in with bayonets extended. Putting a bayonet on with the 91/30 model and expecting to shoot accurately is like strapping on a rucksack full of bricks and expecting to run at your peak speed. It is only going to make the rifle unbalanced and harder to aim with unless sitting down at a bench or laying prone.

[CivicChuk]

Thanks for the comment! I've actually had great success with the bayonet attached as have others I've talked to who own 91/30s. I've found that without the bayonet extended my point of impact is MUCH closer to my point of aim than without the bayonet.

[FrosDOwnz]

This is "The Rain" by K. Goach isn't it?

[FrosDOwnz]

@FrosDOwnz

Or at least "The Citadel", it was composed in 1993 but unfortunately no one was ever able to figure out who exactly "K. Goach" was... Real name? Pseudonym?

Nevertheless Alex Rasmussen made a remix.

[mudbone80]

Did you get this music from a 1980s Russian porno?

[Gothxha]

ROFL

[ThegreeneyedCoyote]

I have one of these, it's an unissued one. It's only been shot three times, by me. Got it about half a year ago.

[Fusacchhii6400]

i dont know why but this music annoys me

[Fusacchhii6400]

damn than im lucky i just bought a 91/30 sniper rifle that was made in 1942 for 130.00 bucks.now im looking into a mauser k98 for 150.00

[hobo617]

where can you get a k 98 for 150 ?

[skwigz21]

FYI 91/30s started production in 1891 and ended in 1965. They were in service until the late 90s.

[CivicChuk]

It was the M1891 where production began in 1891. Some 91/30s are dated earlier but this is because they were built off the receivers from older M1891 rifles. While there were some 91/30s that were produced after the war, these were few and far between and most of these were sniper rifles, so I decided to use 1945 as the end date when I made the video.

[stchman]

The 30 means that the Russian Army adopted the M1891 in 1930. The 91/30 was directly based off of the M1891 rifle.

I have a 1926 Mosin Nagant rifle with a hex receiver. It is in M91/30 configuration, but not a true M91/30 rifle. The hex receivers are considered to be of better quality.

[PSNTheMoleMan]

windex neutralizes the corrosive salts also.

[freddyk021]

i second the use of windex. give it all a nice spray let it soak for a little bit and clean as normal. one thing to point out, windex is crap as a lubricant, so give everything a re-oil after cleaning.

[iceteaguy]

What happens if you just don't clean the rifle? It's my first rifle, so I'm not really an expert on any of this, and I often times have no way to boil water for about two hours because of how far away rifle ranges are from my house.

[CivicChuk]

Thank you for the comment! If you do not clean it, the barrel will get corroded and your accuracy will diminish, as the rifling will get damaged. Boiling water is an extra precaution I take. However, running a patch of lukewarm water through the barrel should neutralize most of the salts and Hoppe's No. 9 gun cleaning solution should be able to take care of everything else.

[ushouldntjudgeme]

Thank you for the tip for "sticky bolt syndrome"

Excellent informative video!

[labcoat31]

Mine has the octagonal receiver.

[stlflash]

great video 5 stars, 2 questions with corrosive ammunition should you also clean the bolt and firing mechinsim imeaditly, and what exactly is corrisvley primed amuntion is that any different from normal corrosive ammo.

[CivicChuk]

Thanks for the comment! When firing corrosive ammunition, I always clean the bolt head after shooting, as there are still some salts in the primer, however it's not as important as cleaning the barrel. You don't have to clean the firing mechanism immediately. Also, with normal corrosive ammo, there are salts in the gunpowder, whereas with corrosively primed ammunition, there are only salts in the primer (so I would still run a soapy patch down the barrel just to be safe).

[znignflo72]

if i loaded some ammo with a .308 bullet would it effect the accuracy

[znignflo72]

do u know what the bore diameter is on the 91/30?

[CivicChuk]

It's usually .313 groove-to-groove and .302 land-to-land. Bullets are usually .311 in diameter.

[ExOpsMercenary]

Nice video, also the music was very fitting.

but i'm still amazed that this classic gun is so cheap. i thought it would be more like 700+ at a normal amount.

[PSNTheMoleMan]

well shit ExOps, they made millions of them out of scrap metal during the war... my reciever is made from a rail road track... no fucking joke.

[snidelywhiplash]

@ExOpsMercenary Nope. You can get 'em for US$100 all day long.  Isn't it great?

[CannonPros]

@ExOpsMercenary 36 million made my friend

[MrSKSkill]

@CannonPros Holy shit, so basically what your saying is that my Mosin is a rare collectors Item!!

[CannonPros]

@MrSKSkill rare collectors item? only the snipers pe or pu, dragoons, the m38s and m44s the 91/30s are not rare at all

[MrDip02]

@CannonPros 37 million soviet and russian were produced that includes the m44 m1891 dragoon m91/30 m38 and m/91/59