LONG LIVE AMY WINEHOUSE :) Amy Winehouse could drink the whole hypocritical republican party under the table AND still sing and write like the genius she was... and win grammys for it too ... love you Amy
Um, she was an ADULT and made a song ppl loved and got an award, and it is stupid to think you could have picked this song out of all the other songs about drugs and predicted that SHE was gonna be the one to die because of substance abuse!
Ugghhhhh those conservitards are so unbearable!!! Judge everyone right left & center, all the while they've got skeletons bursting out of their closet.
The main reason they made sure the republican base got retarded & didn't care about facts or articles etc was probably so they wouldn't have to fear looking like hypocrites. Sure the GOP loves tax cuts etc, but hypocrisy's their addiction.
All y'all so called christians make me sick, fucking read a book if you're gonna be religious you morons!!
Billy Boy Bennett having the NERVE to talk about vice when he was into the high roller treatment (no doubt including hookers) at Las Vegas and Atlantic City and lost over $8,000,000 dollars playing $500 a pull slots and video poker.
And Conservatives go on and on about how great things were during the Reagan Years. An addict as Drug Czar and Secretary of Education. He wrote "The Children's Book of Virtues" as he was banging hookers.
I understand the noble idea of "protecting the youth" from all the "dangers" of drugs, but quit being so fucking naive. People are going to do drugs, find addictions, and ruin their own lifes whether or not the government tries to regulate their lives.
@AmericanMuscleCarSS You are 100% correct. In fact the war on drugs does more damage than legalization. Look at Portugal. They made it legal for users to have drugs but if they get caught they are not sent to prison but sent to drug treatment where they can hopefully kick their habits. This frees up space for the police to go after the real criminals who are the drug dealer making money off of people addicted to substances.
@fiendkracken1 That's a good question. I'm not saying he misappropriated it, and I don't think you are either, but how much was from the salary our government payed him? I'd like to know. Now, let me be clear. I think that money was his. After you're payed and cash your paycheck, regardless of whether you work in the public or private sector, it's yours. (After taxes.) But given the crap Bennett spews on CNN on a daily basis about how Gov't workers get too many benefits (like
@fiendkracken1healthcare and other frivolity,) well... Do I even need to say it? Well, I will anyway. I guess if the public sector workers were gambling millions of dollars instead of providing for their families, that would have been all good. Interesting.
The labels don't care if you are talented of not, they don't care if you use drugs or not, the only thing they care about is if people are paying attention to you. If you are just another working artist that can't preform because you are too fucked up...SORRY see ya later hahaha but if all the media can talk about is what kind of a time bomb you are then it does not matter what you sound like at all just keep people talking and the guys in the studio will take care of the rest haha
SHE SUCKED! the only reason she got the attention was because she was a ticking time bomb. Generic garbage ripped off from the 50's is all she was..I have known artists in the past who did not get record deals because of they're addictions but because this stupid girl got the attention of the media we all just fed right into it and watched her go down in flames. Now it's other people's turn to make some money off her.
thats ignorant its more to music than message. if someone has a dope voice and is a great producer or composer then you judge them simply on a message? this guy doesn't understand music so how about he keeps his ignorant opinion to himself
Didn't America's drug problem explode exponentially during the Reagan Administration, despite Nancy Reagan's bullshit "Just Say No" program? And Bill Bennett was the drug czar at the time? Does he really have room to criticize?
Sorry Cenk but even Natalie Cole (a former addict) said at the time that giving her Grammys in the midst of her addiction was harmful because she was having her proverbial cake and eating it. I totally agree: instead of helping her, we patted her on the back, booked her for gigs she was incapable of performing, and dismissed it as a funny thing. "Oh Amy Wino!" Amy was bipolar and refused treatment, plus an addict... like Charlie Sheen. Who we also laugh at, while ill.
@FumingPoliticalPunk On that, we can definitely agree. People have been jumping all over me for saying I don't disagree with his premise. I wish people would actually think critically.
At first I couldn't understand their outrage over their story. All the guy is saying is, wow, she was a drunk and instead of helping her they basically glorified her behavior. But of course TYT twists it into a political attack against republicans. Idk why people politicize everything.
He should be ashamed of himself for being the drug Czar of a country that has allowed opium exports in afghanistan go up 300%.
Let alone all the cases indicating the CIA imports drugs into the US and has for along time.
Sterilize this old fook and his progeny so tired of idiots like this being allowed to be in power, just spouting plausible rhetoric for popularity. He lies he dies make that a rule for government and watch it clean up real quick.
Oh brother, these holier than thou pieces of shit. People with no lives bashing on her from the comfort of their computer. All I can say, do something better, get off your horse and your fatasses and do something better. What I hate with people nowadays is there's no empathy. I suffered through drug addiction myself, I know how hard and what a hell it is. I don't feel sorry for myself, I think I'm a better man and wiser because of it. But these 'morality' police are just scumbags.
amy died because she stopped drinking,if you are an alcoholic hou have to take medicine because you can get delirium almost like a epilepsi attack.she decided to kick the habbit herself like many others,you can but its dangerous.many people do it that way because they hate being on rehab and if you write a song about that you shouldnt get grammus is both cencorship and crazy.artists have to be alowd to sing about everything,good and bad.
Um, yeah, the Grammy Awards should be ashamed of themselves for recognizing musical talent. That said, some of the winners that the Grammys select are ridiculous. In 1979, The Cars and Elvis Costello were on the list for Best New Artist. Who won? A Taste of Honey. In 1977, Starland Vocal Band won over Boston. In 1980, Ricki Lee Jones beat Dire Straits. In 1981 Christopher Cross beat the Pretenders. And in 1990, Milli Vanilli won. Don't take the Grammys too seriously.
Whinehouse was a druggy who experienced a predictable fate. Her music really was not all that great and did not warrant a Grammy in the first place. The fact that her songs were about being a drugged out loser was just one more reason it should not have been given any award.
Thousands and thousands of people die every day. Then ONE person dies and the Media begins to cry about it. The media is meant to distract people with useless nonsense. It's amazing how people just let themselves get brainwashed.
Amy Winehouse was an irrelevant bimbo who had her voice manufactured by a sound studio and her songs written by people more talented than her. She was a talentless hack. I don't care about this person or her family. Move on to more important things.
O.k, I'm a bit ambivalent about Amy Winehouse... I do like some of her sound, but not enough to buy an album because I dislike some others sound of he... And generally, I prefer rock music, so I always fell like she lack something sometime - Some of it made me think of Jeff Beck and early Yardbird, but it's because it's Jazz and R&B... And still, she miss some punch! But I will not trash her because she took so much drug, she was a good singer with an neo-retro style (I dislike the style).
Fuck that Ass Licking drug Czar. Get over who does what with their own body. Go suck some big banker dicks and sell your ass to pay off your gambling debts you tool. You have no right to talk about ART. I'm no fan of Amy Winehouse's music, but I can't stand jack holes telling other people how to live their life. Legalize FREEDOM, Ron Paul in 2012.
He's probably more saying that by giving her a grammy for a song that denies rehab, it encourages the behavior that denies rehab. It's not really the grammy's point and it's a vain, shallow, superficial point, but I don't necessarily disagree with the intent.
Do U know how many Grammy Winners in Music History that have had Addiction Issues??? They would have to Revoke the Grammy's the most Famous Musicians in WORLD History such as: ELVIS, Janis Joplin, Jimmy Hendrix, M. Jackson, Ray Charles, James Brown, Rick James, Even old Willie Nelson who was busted for like TONS of Weed on his tour bus! *LOL* etc, etc, etc, the list is too long!
@MrsD7777 Most musicians are fucking losers. Popular losers, but none the less they lose at life. Especially if they overdose and die. Their popularity often stems from people that desire to be as self destructive as they are.
Another result of the music industry using cheap labor for free bad publicity for easy money, you know like they do with rap stars? where they look for gangster wannabes turn them into walking disposable record makers then once they commit suicide, get busted for drugs, or die in a drunk driving accident boom they get a bio
Everyone involved in the music and media industry reinforces such behavior.
You pay them obscene amounts of money and give them endless publicity; Two years down the line, they've bought everything they could ever want, accomplished everything they could ever want and stress them to extreme levels with nonstop mobbing by fans, cameras, reporters etc etc..No wonder many of them turn to drugs, crime or act like idiots..
If you want to end such behavior, cut their pay by 90%.
I don't think gambling is a moral issue. If he can afford to lose 8 million dollars and isn't bankrupting his family in the process I don't see how it's a moral issue. You guys are just jelous.lol
Yeah, the more crackheads who die, the better. They are bad people in the first place for trying crack. Only the weak minded can be addicted so easily. Natural selection, bitches!
@GirtheAlienGoldfish Most drug addicts I have ever met do not fund their drug habits through working hard. They steal from other people. Their parents, their friends, and strangers. Selfish scum. My heart has been harden to them for a long time.
I am glad when they die. It stops them from stealing from people.
@TheScamr And what's your point? If it was legal, then they wouldn't have to steal. You're only calling them scum because you really have no idea what else to say. You have the nerve to be glad when someone dies because they steal, not knowing that stealing is petty. There are worse things one can do to another person than steal from them.
At least Amy never stole from anyone, but that's besides the point to you Isn't it?
@TheScamr My Brother died of a drug overdose. I miss him. I wish he had never tried drugs. so fuck you. I hope you die of cancer you piece of shit. Die. NOW!!!!
TYT again using hearsay to bash Bennett. Yes, TYT, just because someone advocates virtue doesn't mean he must be a saint; people make mistakes, struggle with issues, addictions, etc; it's just that conservatives have values and morality from which they may fall; it's tough to fall from them when you don't have them, like most libs. However, he's not out there publicly profiting from his gambling, like WInehouse did with her addiction. By the way not all guys are sex addicts, ie Jonas brothers.
@ChristianMission. Hersay? Mistakes? Struggle with issues? Addictions? William Bennet didn't lose $5000 on slots he lost $8,000,000 and was playing $500 slots from 12:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. so he wouldn't be caught. That's more than an adiction or a mistake. It's a sickness and being dishonest. Say what you want about Amy Winehouse. At least she was public about her addiction which is more than I can say for Bennett. BTW nobody expects Bennet to be a saint you ignorant religious freak.
@cne08 . there hasn't been anything on Bennett's gambling issue since 2003, when he addressed the issue and said he'd cut down. However, even at the height of his gambling, his family has always been financially stable and never in debt. Regardless, while gambling is a problem, Bennett isn't a role model to millions of kids and aspiring musicians, but people like Winehouse are.
@ChristianMission He was feeding literally MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO SLOT MACHINES. If he was a liberal who was doing the same thing, what would you be saying? His gambling is VERY bad, because he is a high ranking government advisor... Here is a clue for you, when somebody has massive gambling debts or a massive gambling habit, THEY ARE MUCH EASIER TO BRIBE and BLACKMAIL.
@FumingPoliticalPunk He's an asshole for a myriad of reasons. He's a bit of a hypocrite too. But is he wrong in his critique of the Grammy board's awarding Amy for a song about illicit drug use? That's what we need to ask ourselves. Is a fat doctor any less correct in his opinion that people should maintain good health? Nope. Does the pot calling the kettle, "black" make the kettle any less black? No because it's still true.
I think it is a feeling by conservatives that are morally superior to others. Therefore, they are able to criticize people for similar behaviors they do without feeling irony or hypocrisy. This virtuousness allows Newt Gingrinch to impeach Pres. Clinton for cheating on his wife while Gingrinch was cheating on his wife, drug abuser Rush Limbaugh to argue for hard sentences for drug abusers, and Bachmann demanding cuts in subsidies for others while receiving subsidies for herself.
When the documentary "Gasland" came out it was nominated for awards as well...then special interest group(s) tried to "persuade" the award commission to block the movie from the awards to attempt to stifle awareness. They however were unsuccessful. Its good to hear that there are some things that are un-corruptible still in the USA...they are getting quite scarce though.
He's upset not because she won the grammy and she was a drug addict, but because she won the grammy for a song about her not wanting to get help for addictions and that ultimately killed her. He doesn't want people to not win an award because of their personal life, he doesn't want people to win awards for songs about not wanting to receive help for addictions and then dying as a result of not getting help. When you award songs like that it sends the message that people shouldn't get help.
I think he is upset about it now because of her addictions, she then wrote a song about how she didn't want to get help for her addictions and her winning a grammy for that song supported her decisions, now 3 years later because of her not going to rehab her addictions killed her. He's upset now because of the personal life but because of what the song was about that won the grammy and now she died. If the song wasn't about her not going to rehab he wouldn't care.
Winehouse fucking ruled when she was on her game and deserved every accolade she received. Considering the events of last week, I don't think anybody is now considering "Rehab" as their personal theme song, so you can just shut your ugly mouth, Bennett.
@echosixnoble Who the hell are you. People happen to like Amy Winehouse, just because you don't doesn't mean she sucks, and the 31 people who liked your comment tells me that I'm not dealing with some bright people here.
I support the absurdly rich spending their money like that, I call it a stimulus package. The rich actually spending money without getting more money in return is the only thing that will fix this economy.
It's not the Grammy's job to instill morality, they are to recognize artistic achievement and nothing more. Furthermore, awarding Winehouse that Grammy isn't an endorsement of her drug use. Her drug use did not contribute to her talent, it hindered it to some extent.
i thought the rehab song is counterproductive but jesus man, the beatles sang about drugs ALL the time. Almost everyone who wins a grammy at some point has taken some sort of drugs on a constant basis. If the grammys can only give awards to non-drug using singers, there would be no more grammy winners
she got a grammy for her music, not for her drug use. art is supposed to be the opposite of clean & sterile reality, either beautified or destroyed with method, intent, purpose, and passion. to see something, whether an inanimate object, or life itself, and reject it, desire to change it into something more "creative" either negative or positive... is artistic endeavor.
In case you were wondering GENERALJOHNNYREBEL said "William Bennett is a terrorist. Anyone that supports the war on drugs supports terrorism. And if you inforce drug laws, then your a terrorist. All cops are terrorist. Doesnt matter if you think marijuana should be legal, it you inforce the drug laws, your an evil fuck!!!!!!!!!!!"
The concept of a "drug czar" telling people they should be ashamed of themselves is asinine. This is a person who thinks that people should be locked up for getting high, fucking barbarians. People shouldn't like music about sex and drugs? Get fucking real
Nothing wrong with "The Gambler" with respect to Bennett's gambling. Bennett didn't listen to the song. That's why he didn't know when to hold'em and, more importantly, fold'em.
gambling isn't a "morality issue." mind you it's fucking STUPID to gamble, but there's nothing "amoral" about it. honestly, i'm glad we live in a country where rich douche bags like william bennett are free to lose their money.
William Bennett is TRULY Sarah Palin's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCH and PUSSY! Palin is SUPERIOR to Bennett in every single way. Bennett was an EPIC FAIL for he did NOT win the War on Drugs. Palin WILL completely WIN the war on drugs and COMPLETELY PURIFY this Earth of such illegal and dangerous substances. The Earth will be CLEAN of pot, crack, heroin, opium, cocaine, meth, ecstasy, etc.
I can't defend that jackoff but I can make an argument. It's a slippery slope fallacy but humor me. Here goes: Let's say Skrewdriver made a song that was musically brilliant & every note was played w/ laser precision. Let's say the drum work sounds like Bonham, the guitar work is someplace between BB King & Jimi Hendrix. Let's say the bass work is better than Nik Fraiture. Let's say the singing is better Neil Diamond. BUT, it's "heritage music" (white supremacist bullshit). See where I'm going?
@afonscp What I'm saying is that, no matter how great a song is, we're still allowed to challenge a song's subject matter. I'm an urban man from Chicago's South Side (born on the West Side). Let's just say that I've seen just about every incarnation of ugly. That said, I know hip hop & rap have urban ugly as its subject matter a great deal of the time. Is it totally inappropriate to challenge subject matter? No. Is it a leap for the guy to say that NARAS is rewarding Amy for being "bad"? No.
@upabittoolate Listen, Rehab talks about Amy's refusal to be hospitalized and how she sees her drug addiction. Winehouse believed that she was fine and that her addiction was perfectly normal. Rehab (the song) is not about how drugs are awesome or how rehab shouldn't exist. Besides, drugs are drugs. It's not like it's a racist or homophobic issue.
We've all heard the song. I'm making a broader point: it's not wrong to challenge NASAR if they're congratulating "bad" behavior. Drugs aren't racism or homophobia, tis true. But drugs aren't "good" either. If evil is still evil we can't judge racism & homophobia on a sliding scale. Is cocaine (what probably killed Amy long with chain-smoking) any less destructive than homophobia or racism? Evidently not.
Again, I do not defend the degenerate gambler but I do understand his argument.
@upabittoolate Dude, doing drugs is a choice. Being white, black, yellow, red, gay, bi, straight isn't a choice. Besides, why are drugs evil? You know that medicine are drugs, right? Are you going to say that headaches pills are evil? Are you on drugs? Let me tell you something: the only evil thing in the world is the human species.
You're correct. Life is all about choice. And in truth, we all pick our poisons: dope, gambling, excessive women, adrenaline, junk food, booze, tobacco, etc. I get that.
The premise is that excessive cocaine use is "evil" because it took Amy's life at 27. Don't add something (like sexuality) to my anecdote that wasn't there. Deal with the premise as is. Is it wrong to critique subject matter? No. Is HE implicitly wrong to saying NASAR was awarding her for stylizing dangerous behavior? No.
@upabittoolate I don't think anyone wants to follow in Amy's example. She died, afterall. This is music. Listening to a song about rehab doesn't mean you will go to rehab or that you even care about it. You're just enjoying a song. The song can be good even if it isn't full of "virture" or something you want to liv eyour life by. I do not think she 'stylized dangerous behavior'. I think her example will steer people away from it.
It's easy to say, "it's just music", "it's just a book", "it's just a movie" or "it's just a blog". But damned if there was no such as driveby shootings BEFORE someone saw it in a gangster movie. Damned if some guy didn't read a book then decide to shoot up a Holocaust museum. Damned if someone didn't shoot an AZ congresswoman.
I'm not saying we should limit anyone's speech. But I think it's okay for someone to tell the Grammy board that we shouldn't award such things.
@upabittoolate good point BUT it's music Grammy's are not to judge ppl based on there lifestyle's which is why they can't stop an ELton John from winning a grammy based on a song about another male partner there job is to rate a song based on it's musical criteria moral value has no place in it it's the Art of music not moral choices ... So again as @Rosalila said "it's a good song, stfu" ... of course directed at the former drug czar not at you my friend you continue to speak
The thing is, we're not just talking about Amy's life & Amy's music as mutually exclusive entities. She was given the award for song of the year. The song in question was about drugs. In other words, it's where her music & her life intersected. And no, I'm not judging her life. I'm saying that it's not beyond the pale to criticize the guys who gave her the award. You can't use Elton John here because his homosexuality ain't killed nobody. But we can probably all agree that Amy's dope killed her.
@upabittoolate We can learn from Amy struggling with her own personal demons. Art reflects life. Just because her art contained something controversial doesn't mean it wasn't GOOD or worth hearing.
@shoecat42 I never said it wasn't "worth hearing". I said that he (Bennett) wasn't wrong in his premise that subject matter, in a medium as pervasive as music, is a factor. In the same sense that NWA singing "Gangsta Gangsta" then getting an award for talking about violence & misogyny isn't a great idea.
This isn't about her art containing something "controversial". This is about her putting a dangerous lifestyle to music then being awarded for it.
@upabittoolate this is true BUT is it really for people who judge songs based on the "Sciences" of music to judge the morality of a song before they give out an award of course not that would be an infringment on "artistic expression" which would in turn kill the credibility of the award show (the little they still have mind you) there are award shows that celebrate possitivity that's where they judge morality not the Grammy's it's only based on music there
@ugliguy I don't think songs always get based on the "sciences". Taht song Elton John wrote about Lady Diana wasn't all that musically. And if were about the "sciences", indy rockers would take every award because they're usually more accomplished musicians. You best believe the Grammies have no credibility. And in the end, my larger question is about Bennett's concern for pop music (shouldn't he be doing something "meaningful"?). BUT, I won't tear the guy down for taking a swipe at NASAR.
@upabittoolate yeah now we're getting in to opinions (not that I don't agree trust me) but at the end of the day she made an amazing song one of the best pop songs of the year and got an award for it and I mean I don't think your totally wrong in your stance I mean it's good to see a man potential father argue that music shouldn't have so much negative emphasis I was watching the new snoop video with my girl and I said to her "I thought we were over half naked bitches where's the originality"
@upabittoolate now that is too far out there we're talking about someone damaging themselves not another race or group of people her intent was just to say well my daddy thinks I'm fine so she doesn't need rehab it would be like a girl making a song about wanting to sleep around but making it very passionate and honest and beautiful or a painter painting a picture that looks to glorify drug use but it is very artistic and well done should they be villafied I say no art is art you may disagree
What I'm saying is that you don't reward someone for making songs about "bad" behavior no matter how musically tight the song may be. In that respect, I understand Bennett's premise. Also, let's stop kidding ourselves; life everntually imitates art because art informs the sensibilities of the people who listen to it. Music is EXTREMELY pervasive.
And I never said it wasn't art. What's artistic, rather, what distingusihes art from porn is very subjective. Again, Bennett ain't totally wrong.
You guys are being a bit unfair. He doesn't claim to be perfect, but he didn't make a song bragging about how great being a gambler is, then get a reward for it. When Winehouse first got those grammys Natalie Cole spoke out about her personal battle with addiction, and a song bragging that you'll never go to rehab shouldn't be praised. Winehouse didn't even get to appear at the ceremony because of her drug arrests, couldn't get a visa into the country.
Many artists do drugs! Please, you would have to take away probably over half of the Grammy's out there if you especially include artists from the 60's to now??? haha!
if you have 8 Million dollars why the fuck would you gamble if you were that rich!?!?
WWEelle 5 days ago
LONG LIVE AMY WINEHOUSE :) Amy Winehouse could drink the whole hypocritical republican party under the table AND still sing and write like the genius she was... and win grammys for it too ... love you Amy
TheTdot2010 3 weeks ago
STFU!
TheAtt22 5 months ago
reagan is the king of the right wing nutjobs..
gaara508 6 months ago
Bill Bennet is Retarded and doesnt understand any art
yiushin2 7 months ago
Bennett just 1 member of the morally ambiguous, self described moral majority. No surprises here
donyunger 7 months ago
William Bennett is a communist
Wtfgames 7 months ago
@Wtfgames
If you think that's true you either don't know who Bill Bennet is or what the word "communist" means.
dgumbrecht 7 months ago
@dgumbrecht
Oh i do, what makes him a communist is that he supports bloating the government to fund anti constitutional wasting on stupidy like the war on drugs
Wtfgames 7 months ago
I thought it was "Tzar", not Czar...oh well...
Blah, blah blah, hes a hypocrite, nothing more to say.
People live in glass houses...
rorrt 7 months ago
Um, she was an ADULT and made a song ppl loved and got an award, and it is stupid to think you could have picked this song out of all the other songs about drugs and predicted that SHE was gonna be the one to die because of substance abuse!
ginko27 7 months ago
Ugghhhhh those conservitards are so unbearable!!! Judge everyone right left & center, all the while they've got skeletons bursting out of their closet.
The main reason they made sure the republican base got retarded & didn't care about facts or articles etc was probably so they wouldn't have to fear looking like hypocrites. Sure the GOP loves tax cuts etc, but hypocrisy's their addiction.
All y'all so called christians make me sick, fucking read a book if you're gonna be religious you morons!!
MyTemporaryAccount88 7 months ago
wut, wut, wut?
he's not immoral.
other are.
case closed.
aandreya 7 months ago
Billy Boy Bennett having the NERVE to talk about vice when he was into the high roller treatment (no doubt including hookers) at Las Vegas and Atlantic City and lost over $8,000,000 dollars playing $500 a pull slots and video poker.
And Conservatives go on and on about how great things were during the Reagan Years. An addict as Drug Czar and Secretary of Education. He wrote "The Children's Book of Virtues" as he was banging hookers.
SpitfireOFatj 7 months ago
A man pouring money into a community draining casino talking about morality and ethics. Un-fuckin believable.
Hypocrisy knows no bounds.
drpeppa2357 7 months ago
Another evil drugs war monster fucker spouting off - loserrrr.
cheekieweekie 7 months ago
I understand the noble idea of "protecting the youth" from all the "dangers" of drugs, but quit being so fucking naive. People are going to do drugs, find addictions, and ruin their own lifes whether or not the government tries to regulate their lives.
AmericanMuscleCarSS 7 months ago
@AmericanMuscleCarSS You are 100% correct. In fact the war on drugs does more damage than legalization. Look at Portugal. They made it legal for users to have drugs but if they get caught they are not sent to prison but sent to drug treatment where they can hopefully kick their habits. This frees up space for the police to go after the real criminals who are the drug dealer making money off of people addicted to substances.
Chaoitcme 7 months ago
play 2:50 5X
mefilmmaking 7 months ago
TYT exposes so many fake people
MrDecember91 7 months ago
I wonder how much off that $8 million is tax payers money.
fiendkracken1 7 months ago
@fiendkracken1 That's a good question. I'm not saying he misappropriated it, and I don't think you are either, but how much was from the salary our government payed him? I'd like to know. Now, let me be clear. I think that money was his. After you're payed and cash your paycheck, regardless of whether you work in the public or private sector, it's yours. (After taxes.) But given the crap Bennett spews on CNN on a daily basis about how Gov't workers get too many benefits (like
xJoeEDangerouslyx 7 months ago
@fiendkracken1healthcare and other frivolity,) well... Do I even need to say it? Well, I will anyway. I guess if the public sector workers were gambling millions of dollars instead of providing for their families, that would have been all good. Interesting.
xJoeEDangerouslyx 7 months ago
Someone from the Reagon Admin. talking about drugs LOL. Seriously... "Contras" anyone? Crack epidemic?
MrSockoOck 7 months ago 23
@MrSockoOck Hypocrisy is the regular bedfellow of the right wing.
comanchio1976 7 months ago 6
The labels don't care if you are talented of not, they don't care if you use drugs or not, the only thing they care about is if people are paying attention to you. If you are just another working artist that can't preform because you are too fucked up...SORRY see ya later hahaha but if all the media can talk about is what kind of a time bomb you are then it does not matter what you sound like at all just keep people talking and the guys in the studio will take care of the rest haha
MTVVH1sucks 7 months ago
SHE SUCKED! the only reason she got the attention was because she was a ticking time bomb. Generic garbage ripped off from the 50's is all she was..I have known artists in the past who did not get record deals because of they're addictions but because this stupid girl got the attention of the media we all just fed right into it and watched her go down in flames. Now it's other people's turn to make some money off her.
MTVVH1sucks 7 months ago
thats ignorant its more to music than message. if someone has a dope voice and is a great producer or composer then you judge them simply on a message? this guy doesn't understand music so how about he keeps his ignorant opinion to himself
Wgivens93 7 months ago
Didn't America's drug problem explode exponentially during the Reagan Administration, despite Nancy Reagan's bullshit "Just Say No" program? And Bill Bennett was the drug czar at the time? Does he really have room to criticize?
brownhornet22 7 months ago
Damn, Amy had so much talent. Why'd she have to hook up with the wrong people? Damn.. :/
JBrewer4386 7 months ago
Sorry Cenk but even Natalie Cole (a former addict) said at the time that giving her Grammys in the midst of her addiction was harmful because she was having her proverbial cake and eating it. I totally agree: instead of helping her, we patted her on the back, booked her for gigs she was incapable of performing, and dismissed it as a funny thing. "Oh Amy Wino!" Amy was bipolar and refused treatment, plus an addict... like Charlie Sheen. Who we also laugh at, while ill.
turnoffthetv 7 months ago
@FumingPoliticalPunk On that, we can definitely agree. People have been jumping all over me for saying I don't disagree with his premise. I wish people would actually think critically.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
At first I couldn't understand their outrage over their story. All the guy is saying is, wow, she was a drunk and instead of helping her they basically glorified her behavior. But of course TYT twists it into a political attack against republicans. Idk why people politicize everything.
HowToGetFreebies 7 months ago
He's a Drunk
22knowa 7 months ago
Hypocrites
xephyr1000 7 months ago
He should be ashamed of himself for being the drug Czar of a country that has allowed opium exports in afghanistan go up 300%.
Let alone all the cases indicating the CIA imports drugs into the US and has for along time.
Sterilize this old fook and his progeny so tired of idiots like this being allowed to be in power, just spouting plausible rhetoric for popularity. He lies he dies make that a rule for government and watch it clean up real quick.
geebus80 7 months ago
Oh brother, these holier than thou pieces of shit. People with no lives bashing on her from the comfort of their computer. All I can say, do something better, get off your horse and your fatasses and do something better. What I hate with people nowadays is there's no empathy. I suffered through drug addiction myself, I know how hard and what a hell it is. I don't feel sorry for myself, I think I'm a better man and wiser because of it. But these 'morality' police are just scumbags.
mrselfdestruct23 7 months ago
@mrselfdestruct23
Dont you find it ironic how your here bashing people, for bashing people?
oXGenesisXo 7 months ago
A Reagan drug czar wants to talk about virtue and morality? Hang on, I think my irony detector just broke.
grimthane 7 months ago
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hodylucia 7 months ago
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hodylucia 7 months ago
So the Reagan Admin drug czar, the administration who started the crack revolution with "Rich Mountain Aviation", wants to vilify Winehouse?
Talk about people in glass houses.
robinhoodtheorem 7 months ago
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perezed1333 7 months ago
2:47 skip to this part its funny
perezed1333 7 months ago
amy died because she stopped drinking,if you are an alcoholic hou have to take medicine because you can get delirium almost like a epilepsi attack.she decided to kick the habbit herself like many others,you can but its dangerous.many people do it that way because they hate being on rehab and if you write a song about that you shouldnt get grammus is both cencorship and crazy.artists have to be alowd to sing about everything,good and bad.
larsoveful 7 months ago
Oh FUCK, it's that ahole racist Will Bennet. Who cares what this criminal thinks?
SandCmpbll 7 months ago
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ajgraciani 7 months ago
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ajgraciani 7 months ago
Um, yeah, the Grammy Awards should be ashamed of themselves for recognizing musical talent. That said, some of the winners that the Grammys select are ridiculous. In 1979, The Cars and Elvis Costello were on the list for Best New Artist. Who won? A Taste of Honey. In 1977, Starland Vocal Band won over Boston. In 1980, Ricki Lee Jones beat Dire Straits. In 1981 Christopher Cross beat the Pretenders. And in 1990, Milli Vanilli won. Don't take the Grammys too seriously.
ChipArgyle 7 months ago
ad hominem wat Cenk?
Whinehouse was a druggy who experienced a predictable fate. Her music really was not all that great and did not warrant a Grammy in the first place. The fact that her songs were about being a drugged out loser was just one more reason it should not have been given any award.
TheScamr 7 months ago
is it wrong that I played 0:46 to 0:49 just to listen to Anna?
TheFrogburt 7 months ago
So, what about the Beatles?
pvtpain66k 7 months ago
Thousands and thousands of people die every day. Then ONE person dies and the Media begins to cry about it. The media is meant to distract people with useless nonsense. It's amazing how people just let themselves get brainwashed.
ChuckSchuldinerRIP0 7 months ago
Amy Winehouse was an irrelevant bimbo who had her voice manufactured by a sound studio and her songs written by people more talented than her. She was a talentless hack. I don't care about this person or her family. Move on to more important things.
v3ntulus 7 months ago
O.k, I'm a bit ambivalent about Amy Winehouse... I do like some of her sound, but not enough to buy an album because I dislike some others sound of he... And generally, I prefer rock music, so I always fell like she lack something sometime - Some of it made me think of Jeff Beck and early Yardbird, but it's because it's Jazz and R&B... And still, she miss some punch! But I will not trash her because she took so much drug, she was a good singer with an neo-retro style (I dislike the style).
therrydicule 7 months ago
Fuck that Ass Licking drug Czar. Get over who does what with their own body. Go suck some big banker dicks and sell your ass to pay off your gambling debts you tool. You have no right to talk about ART. I'm no fan of Amy Winehouse's music, but I can't stand jack holes telling other people how to live their life. Legalize FREEDOM, Ron Paul in 2012.
SrfCldWtr 7 months ago
See this is why I don't hate on pot heads because I have my wine and am not a hypocritical asshole.
MistressArte 7 months ago
Aye Bennett, Shut the Fuck Up.
RBLA818 7 months ago
I'd love to know how much money Cenk turned down. I'd also love to know if any of the other YT would of turned it down.
Psychoesis 7 months ago
This is the stupid bastard who refused to authorize dying cancer patients enough pain killers to die without pain when he was drug czar.
kruat43 7 months ago
He's probably more saying that by giving her a grammy for a song that denies rehab, it encourages the behavior that denies rehab. It's not really the grammy's point and it's a vain, shallow, superficial point, but I don't necessarily disagree with the intent.
cheezbawl2003 7 months ago
Do U know how many Grammy Winners in Music History that have had Addiction Issues??? They would have to Revoke the Grammy's the most Famous Musicians in WORLD History such as: ELVIS, Janis Joplin, Jimmy Hendrix, M. Jackson, Ray Charles, James Brown, Rick James, Even old Willie Nelson who was busted for like TONS of Weed on his tour bus! *LOL* etc, etc, etc, the list is too long!
MrsD7777 7 months ago 4
@MrsD7777 Most musicians are fucking losers. Popular losers, but none the less they lose at life. Especially if they overdose and die. Their popularity often stems from people that desire to be as self destructive as they are.
TheScamr 7 months ago
@TheScamr Stop projecting. You're not a loser.
SandCmpbll 7 months ago
This is one of his best ever comments -- callin it out! Great job TYT! Love the relating it to how $ could be spent your kids education!
krss12 7 months ago
Another result of the music industry using cheap labor for free bad publicity for easy money, you know like they do with rap stars? where they look for gangster wannabes turn them into walking disposable record makers then once they commit suicide, get busted for drugs, or die in a drunk driving accident boom they get a bio
DiamondChrome42 7 months ago 2
Everyone involved in the music and media industry reinforces such behavior.
You pay them obscene amounts of money and give them endless publicity; Two years down the line, they've bought everything they could ever want, accomplished everything they could ever want and stress them to extreme levels with nonstop mobbing by fans, cameras, reporters etc etc..No wonder many of them turn to drugs, crime or act like idiots..
If you want to end such behavior, cut their pay by 90%.
TheIslammiracle 7 months ago
I like how you retards are comparing a guy losing money he can afford to lose gambling, to a fucking junkie who did drugs until she killed herself.
idontfkinknow1234 7 months ago
I don't think gambling is a moral issue. If he can afford to lose 8 million dollars and isn't bankrupting his family in the process I don't see how it's a moral issue. You guys are just jelous.lol
idontfkinknow1234 7 months ago
Another Republican hypocrite. No surprise here.
fightforyourrights9 7 months ago
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drugs are evil and need to be wiped off from the face of the earth. without drugs the world would be a better place.
lvll138inrs 7 months ago
Fuck the reagan administration. Rehab was a good song.
crackmonster99 7 months ago 25
@crackmonster99
Yeah, the more crackheads who die, the better. They are bad people in the first place for trying crack. Only the weak minded can be addicted so easily. Natural selection, bitches!
ThebanPhalanx 7 months ago
Amy Winehouse was speaking for the people who didn't want to go to rehab. People have a right to choose whether they want to go to rehab or not.
Saying that she was endorsing addiction is really stupid. Besides, if the drug war was so bad, it'd be ended years ago.
GirtheAlienGoldfish 7 months ago
@GirtheAlienGoldfish Most drug addicts I have ever met do not fund their drug habits through working hard. They steal from other people. Their parents, their friends, and strangers. Selfish scum. My heart has been harden to them for a long time.
I am glad when they die. It stops them from stealing from people.
TheScamr 7 months ago
@TheScamr And what's your point? If it was legal, then they wouldn't have to steal. You're only calling them scum because you really have no idea what else to say. You have the nerve to be glad when someone dies because they steal, not knowing that stealing is petty. There are worse things one can do to another person than steal from them.
At least Amy never stole from anyone, but that's besides the point to you Isn't it?
GirtheAlienGoldfish 7 months ago
@TheScamr My Brother died of a drug overdose. I miss him. I wish he had never tried drugs. so fuck you. I hope you die of cancer you piece of shit. Die. NOW!!!!
entwistlemoon 7 months ago
so no awards for elvis, beatles, stones...
thesidrotten 7 months ago
I freaking love you Cenk.
TheMiserableRanter 7 months ago
TYT again using hearsay to bash Bennett. Yes, TYT, just because someone advocates virtue doesn't mean he must be a saint; people make mistakes, struggle with issues, addictions, etc; it's just that conservatives have values and morality from which they may fall; it's tough to fall from them when you don't have them, like most libs. However, he's not out there publicly profiting from his gambling, like WInehouse did with her addiction. By the way not all guys are sex addicts, ie Jonas brothers.
ChristianMission 7 months ago
@ChristianMission. Hersay? Mistakes? Struggle with issues? Addictions? William Bennet didn't lose $5000 on slots he lost $8,000,000 and was playing $500 slots from 12:00 a.m. to 6:00 a.m. so he wouldn't be caught. That's more than an adiction or a mistake. It's a sickness and being dishonest. Say what you want about Amy Winehouse. At least she was public about her addiction which is more than I can say for Bennett. BTW nobody expects Bennet to be a saint you ignorant religious freak.
cne08 7 months ago
@cne08 . there hasn't been anything on Bennett's gambling issue since 2003, when he addressed the issue and said he'd cut down. However, even at the height of his gambling, his family has always been financially stable and never in debt. Regardless, while gambling is a problem, Bennett isn't a role model to millions of kids and aspiring musicians, but people like Winehouse are.
ChristianMission 7 months ago
@ChristianMission He was feeding literally MILLIONS OF DOLLARS INTO SLOT MACHINES. If he was a liberal who was doing the same thing, what would you be saying? His gambling is VERY bad, because he is a high ranking government advisor... Here is a clue for you, when somebody has massive gambling debts or a massive gambling habit, THEY ARE MUCH EASIER TO BRIBE and BLACKMAIL.
dangerouslytalented 7 months ago
@ChristianMission Fuck the Jonas Brothers. they sucked ass and still do
entwistlemoon 7 months ago
If I had $625k, I'd be set for life
NeccoWecco 7 months ago
@FumingPoliticalPunk He's an asshole for a myriad of reasons. He's a bit of a hypocrite too. But is he wrong in his critique of the Grammy board's awarding Amy for a song about illicit drug use? That's what we need to ask ourselves. Is a fat doctor any less correct in his opinion that people should maintain good health? Nope. Does the pot calling the kettle, "black" make the kettle any less black? No because it's still true.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
I think it is a feeling by conservatives that are morally superior to others. Therefore, they are able to criticize people for similar behaviors they do without feeling irony or hypocrisy. This virtuousness allows Newt Gingrinch to impeach Pres. Clinton for cheating on his wife while Gingrinch was cheating on his wife, drug abuser Rush Limbaugh to argue for hard sentences for drug abusers, and Bachmann demanding cuts in subsidies for others while receiving subsidies for herself.
gj804 7 months ago
Amy Winehouse didn't start singing to get a fucking Grammy. This is projections at it's finest.
HE IS THE ONE LOOKING TO BE A CELEBRITY!
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pot, kettle, black.
lolatyoufools 7 months ago
William Bennett is a very sick creature. He is as close to total evil as exists in the USA, the only people more evil are those who appointed him.
geezzerboy 7 months ago
When the documentary "Gasland" came out it was nominated for awards as well...then special interest group(s) tried to "persuade" the award commission to block the movie from the awards to attempt to stifle awareness. They however were unsuccessful. Its good to hear that there are some things that are un-corruptible still in the USA...they are getting quite scarce though.
DungbeetleXL5000 7 months ago
Isn't it supposed to be a big Christian tenet of "hate the sin, not the sinner'.
theallseeingoracle 7 months ago
@theallseeingoracle If you ask evangelicals/conservatives like Mark Driscoll, no. But if you ask Jesus, Saint Augustine, and others, yes.
KDaugherty15 7 months ago
grammys have been a joke the past 10 years.
LisaSnicket 7 months ago
@LisaSnicket make that "have always been a joke".
Ou8y2k2 7 months ago
Ummmmmmmmm..... Pocket 8 million dollars or give it all to the casino? Decisions, decisions......
CrisKG125 7 months ago
He lost $8 to machines? What a loser.
strakha0 7 months ago
He's upset not because she won the grammy and she was a drug addict, but because she won the grammy for a song about her not wanting to get help for addictions and that ultimately killed her. He doesn't want people to not win an award because of their personal life, he doesn't want people to win awards for songs about not wanting to receive help for addictions and then dying as a result of not getting help. When you award songs like that it sends the message that people shouldn't get help.
lilnicky492 7 months ago
I think he is upset about it now because of her addictions, she then wrote a song about how she didn't want to get help for her addictions and her winning a grammy for that song supported her decisions, now 3 years later because of her not going to rehab her addictions killed her. He's upset now because of the personal life but because of what the song was about that won the grammy and now she died. If the song wasn't about her not going to rehab he wouldn't care.
lilnicky492 7 months ago
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edgarbm95 7 months ago
Steven Tyler, watch your back. Bill Bennet is gunning for you.
menthol5 7 months ago
Winehouse fucking ruled when she was on her game and deserved every accolade she received. Considering the events of last week, I don't think anybody is now considering "Rehab" as their personal theme song, so you can just shut your ugly mouth, Bennett.
brandnutopian 7 months ago
Amy Winehouse sucked, I'm tired of people making her seem like she was a child prodigy. Her music was mediocre at best.
echosixnoble 7 months ago 30
@echosixnoble Opinions are like assholes - everyone has one.
NeccoWecco 7 months ago
@echosixnoble
Maybe that's your worthless opinion but i loved her music and a lot of people do and did. Have you even listened to more then 1 song?
RebornLegacy 7 months ago
@echosixnoble And I'm tired of people like you acting like she didn't matter to music.
connorma77 7 months ago
@echosixnoble - Your mom sucks in bed !
Grooveraider 7 months ago
@echosixnoble agree 100%
tupacthug4life 7 months ago
@echosixnoble I think she was better than Justin Bieber. Bieber sucks.
GirtheAlienGoldfish 7 months ago
@GirtheAlienGoldfish Bieber don't run naked around a pool, he sucks but he still a decent human being (for now), not like miss trainwreck cocain
johnny1893 7 months ago
@echosixnoble to quote the dude " Well, thats just like...your opinion man"
MetroNationalNews 7 months ago
@echosixnoble Who the hell are you. People happen to like Amy Winehouse, just because you don't doesn't mean she sucks, and the 31 people who liked your comment tells me that I'm not dealing with some bright people here.
TheTdot2010 3 weeks ago
@TheTdot2010 sure buddy, you really put me in my place, not. ha :)
echosixnoble 2 weeks ago
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5hower5horts 7 months ago
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5hower5horts 7 months ago
so much irony in one week...and all of it is coming from the conservatives
ichibakudan 7 months ago
You guys have another right-wing, advertisement that comes on your video before yours does.
YOURINQUIRER 7 months ago
@YOURINQUIRER they dont have control over that you dumbass
Dasconscripts 7 months ago
@Dasconscripts Thay may care more than you, douchebag.
YOURINQUIRER 7 months ago
Worst gambler ever... come on, slots?
PuppyXz 7 months ago
William Bennet is a fucking hypocrite! ....
nsakic 7 months ago
these subtitles are fucking hilarious
awsumpossum1 7 months ago
I support the absurdly rich spending their money like that, I call it a stimulus package. The rich actually spending money without getting more money in return is the only thing that will fix this economy.
Gr4yW0rld 7 months ago
It's a good song, stfu!
Rosalila 7 months ago
That's not "irony", that's "hypocrisy".
Relyt22 7 months ago
The Grammy's during the late 60's would have been fun...
fauyd 7 months ago
They wanted Bill to stop his gambling, he said no, no, no.
gspendlove 7 months ago
It's so sad that Brittney Murphy died at such a young age. Too bad it wasn't William Bennett.
nsx1com 7 months ago
If the Grammys could only be given to non-drug users, Rebecca Black would win every single one.
ThatSmartHotGuy 7 months ago
Wasn't hemmingway a drunk. There's a lot of famous figures that had issues.
MLK JR womanizer
Bush coke
Rush pain pills
brently1437 7 months ago
It's not the Grammy's job to instill morality, they are to recognize artistic achievement and nothing more. Furthermore, awarding Winehouse that Grammy isn't an endorsement of her drug use. Her drug use did not contribute to her talent, it hindered it to some extent.
funkbrother216 7 months ago 2
i thought the rehab song is counterproductive but jesus man, the beatles sang about drugs ALL the time. Almost everyone who wins a grammy at some point has taken some sort of drugs on a constant basis. If the grammys can only give awards to non-drug using singers, there would be no more grammy winners
masterkayaki 7 months ago
i lived with a gambling addict, and i lived with a crackhead... the crackhead, to me, was the lesser of two evils.
SotNist 7 months ago
she got a grammy for her music, not for her drug use. art is supposed to be the opposite of clean & sterile reality, either beautified or destroyed with method, intent, purpose, and passion. to see something, whether an inanimate object, or life itself, and reject it, desire to change it into something more "creative" either negative or positive... is artistic endeavor.
SotNist 7 months ago
I guess I should have went to rehab but I said NO NO NO.
HAHAHA F that B word. She is dead, and she should have went to rehab. And her music is horrible.
MiZZVMN 7 months ago
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LogicBeforeNorms 7 months ago
Clown of the Earth.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
William Bennett, extreme smoker-gambler is moral? Wow.
dtm52 7 months ago
if u award her music it's like awarding her stupid behavior and promoting it
rebelsouljaz 7 months ago
The concept of a "drug czar" telling people they should be ashamed of themselves is asinine. This is a person who thinks that people should be locked up for getting high, fucking barbarians. People shouldn't like music about sex and drugs? Get fucking real
JACKtheRIPP3R189 7 months ago
Nothing wrong with "The Gambler" with respect to Bennett's gambling. Bennett didn't listen to the song. That's why he didn't know when to hold'em and, more importantly, fold'em.
uoftron 7 months ago
gambling isn't a "morality issue." mind you it's fucking STUPID to gamble, but there's nothing "amoral" about it. honestly, i'm glad we live in a country where rich douche bags like william bennett are free to lose their money.
thirtyoneuniform 7 months ago
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William Bennett is TRULY Sarah Palin's DICKLESS and BALLESS BITCH and PUSSY! Palin is SUPERIOR to Bennett in every single way. Bennett was an EPIC FAIL for he did NOT win the War on Drugs. Palin WILL completely WIN the war on drugs and COMPLETELY PURIFY this Earth of such illegal and dangerous substances. The Earth will be CLEAN of pot, crack, heroin, opium, cocaine, meth, ecstasy, etc.
ecwaufisxtreme 7 months ago
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@ecwaufisxtreme. If Sarah Palin becomes President and eliminates all drugs what are you going to do about all the drugs you take?
cne08 7 months ago
Typical American puritanical hypocritical ASS HOLE!!!!
leonl55 7 months ago
Grammy awards are for music. Not private life. So what if Winehouse was a drug addict? She made great music worthy of awards. Shut up and move on.
afonscp 7 months ago
I can't defend that jackoff but I can make an argument. It's a slippery slope fallacy but humor me. Here goes: Let's say Skrewdriver made a song that was musically brilliant & every note was played w/ laser precision. Let's say the drum work sounds like Bonham, the guitar work is someplace between BB King & Jimi Hendrix. Let's say the bass work is better than Nik Fraiture. Let's say the singing is better Neil Diamond. BUT, it's "heritage music" (white supremacist bullshit). See where I'm going?
upabittoolate 7 months ago
@upabittoolate No, I don't. Winehouse has no racist tracks on her music history does she?
afonscp 7 months ago
@afonscp What I'm saying is that, no matter how great a song is, we're still allowed to challenge a song's subject matter. I'm an urban man from Chicago's South Side (born on the West Side). Let's just say that I've seen just about every incarnation of ugly. That said, I know hip hop & rap have urban ugly as its subject matter a great deal of the time. Is it totally inappropriate to challenge subject matter? No. Is it a leap for the guy to say that NARAS is rewarding Amy for being "bad"? No.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
@upabittoolate Listen, Rehab talks about Amy's refusal to be hospitalized and how she sees her drug addiction. Winehouse believed that she was fine and that her addiction was perfectly normal. Rehab (the song) is not about how drugs are awesome or how rehab shouldn't exist. Besides, drugs are drugs. It's not like it's a racist or homophobic issue.
afonscp 7 months ago
We've all heard the song. I'm making a broader point: it's not wrong to challenge NASAR if they're congratulating "bad" behavior. Drugs aren't racism or homophobia, tis true. But drugs aren't "good" either. If evil is still evil we can't judge racism & homophobia on a sliding scale. Is cocaine (what probably killed Amy long with chain-smoking) any less destructive than homophobia or racism? Evidently not.
Again, I do not defend the degenerate gambler but I do understand his argument.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
@upabittoolate Dude, doing drugs is a choice. Being white, black, yellow, red, gay, bi, straight isn't a choice. Besides, why are drugs evil? You know that medicine are drugs, right? Are you going to say that headaches pills are evil? Are you on drugs? Let me tell you something: the only evil thing in the world is the human species.
afonscp 7 months ago
You're correct. Life is all about choice. And in truth, we all pick our poisons: dope, gambling, excessive women, adrenaline, junk food, booze, tobacco, etc. I get that.
The premise is that excessive cocaine use is "evil" because it took Amy's life at 27. Don't add something (like sexuality) to my anecdote that wasn't there. Deal with the premise as is. Is it wrong to critique subject matter? No. Is HE implicitly wrong to saying NASAR was awarding her for stylizing dangerous behavior? No.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
@upabittoolate I don't think anyone wants to follow in Amy's example. She died, afterall. This is music. Listening to a song about rehab doesn't mean you will go to rehab or that you even care about it. You're just enjoying a song. The song can be good even if it isn't full of "virture" or something you want to liv eyour life by. I do not think she 'stylized dangerous behavior'. I think her example will steer people away from it.
shoecat42 7 months ago
It's easy to say, "it's just music", "it's just a book", "it's just a movie" or "it's just a blog". But damned if there was no such as driveby shootings BEFORE someone saw it in a gangster movie. Damned if some guy didn't read a book then decide to shoot up a Holocaust museum. Damned if someone didn't shoot an AZ congresswoman.
I'm not saying we should limit anyone's speech. But I think it's okay for someone to tell the Grammy board that we shouldn't award such things.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
@upabittoolate good point BUT it's music Grammy's are not to judge ppl based on there lifestyle's which is why they can't stop an ELton John from winning a grammy based on a song about another male partner there job is to rate a song based on it's musical criteria moral value has no place in it it's the Art of music not moral choices ... So again as @Rosalila said "it's a good song, stfu" ... of course directed at the former drug czar not at you my friend you continue to speak
ugliguy 7 months ago
The thing is, we're not just talking about Amy's life & Amy's music as mutually exclusive entities. She was given the award for song of the year. The song in question was about drugs. In other words, it's where her music & her life intersected. And no, I'm not judging her life. I'm saying that it's not beyond the pale to criticize the guys who gave her the award. You can't use Elton John here because his homosexuality ain't killed nobody. But we can probably all agree that Amy's dope killed her.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
@upabittoolate We can learn from Amy struggling with her own personal demons. Art reflects life. Just because her art contained something controversial doesn't mean it wasn't GOOD or worth hearing.
shoecat42 7 months ago
@shoecat42 I never said it wasn't "worth hearing". I said that he (Bennett) wasn't wrong in his premise that subject matter, in a medium as pervasive as music, is a factor. In the same sense that NWA singing "Gangsta Gangsta" then getting an award for talking about violence & misogyny isn't a great idea.
This isn't about her art containing something "controversial". This is about her putting a dangerous lifestyle to music then being awarded for it.
Again, I don't fault him for that premise
upabittoolate 7 months ago
@upabittoolate this is true BUT is it really for people who judge songs based on the "Sciences" of music to judge the morality of a song before they give out an award of course not that would be an infringment on "artistic expression" which would in turn kill the credibility of the award show (the little they still have mind you) there are award shows that celebrate possitivity that's where they judge morality not the Grammy's it's only based on music there
ugliguy 7 months ago
@ugliguy I don't think songs always get based on the "sciences". Taht song Elton John wrote about Lady Diana wasn't all that musically. And if were about the "sciences", indy rockers would take every award because they're usually more accomplished musicians. You best believe the Grammies have no credibility. And in the end, my larger question is about Bennett's concern for pop music (shouldn't he be doing something "meaningful"?). BUT, I won't tear the guy down for taking a swipe at NASAR.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
@upabittoolate yeah now we're getting in to opinions (not that I don't agree trust me) but at the end of the day she made an amazing song one of the best pop songs of the year and got an award for it and I mean I don't think your totally wrong in your stance I mean it's good to see a man potential father argue that music shouldn't have so much negative emphasis I was watching the new snoop video with my girl and I said to her "I thought we were over half naked bitches where's the originality"
ugliguy 7 months ago
@upabittoolate now that is too far out there we're talking about someone damaging themselves not another race or group of people her intent was just to say well my daddy thinks I'm fine so she doesn't need rehab it would be like a girl making a song about wanting to sleep around but making it very passionate and honest and beautiful or a painter painting a picture that looks to glorify drug use but it is very artistic and well done should they be villafied I say no art is art you may disagree
ugliguy 7 months ago
What I'm saying is that you don't reward someone for making songs about "bad" behavior no matter how musically tight the song may be. In that respect, I understand Bennett's premise. Also, let's stop kidding ourselves; life everntually imitates art because art informs the sensibilities of the people who listen to it. Music is EXTREMELY pervasive.
And I never said it wasn't art. What's artistic, rather, what distingusihes art from porn is very subjective. Again, Bennett ain't totally wrong.
upabittoolate 7 months ago
You guys are being a bit unfair. He doesn't claim to be perfect, but he didn't make a song bragging about how great being a gambler is, then get a reward for it. When Winehouse first got those grammys Natalie Cole spoke out about her personal battle with addiction, and a song bragging that you'll never go to rehab shouldn't be praised. Winehouse didn't even get to appear at the ceremony because of her drug arrests, couldn't get a visa into the country.
Boobalopbop 7 months ago
Many artists do drugs! Please, you would have to take away probably over half of the Grammy's out there if you especially include artists from the 60's to now??? haha!
MedMan30 7 months ago
he is not moral... he is a moron!
hedleypanama 7 months ago
If the Grammys or any other music awards show were going to take away awards from singers because of their questionable behaviour there'd be almost