BPTV: Series 2 Ep 3 - Rebecca Watson - Skepchick - Part 1/2

[AtheismKills]

The "Coffee" word seems to scare Watson...

[PeytonFarquhar1]

Rebecca doesn't care that the word "chick" can be offensive to people. It makes people uncomfortable, but apparently she thinks she can say whatever she wants. Go figure.

[KMallinson]

@PeytonFarquhar1 @PeytonFarquhar1 There is a history of reclaiming pejoratives in pride. For instance, "Slutwalk" is doing wonderful things to raise awareness about rape. Maybe you should calm yourself down.

[PeytonFarquhar1]

@KMallinson - No. I object to people who whine about being offended by things, and seek to control other people's language, but claim for themselves the right to say whatever pejoratives they like. She is not the boss of the English language, but she sure tries to act like she is.

[KMallinson]

@PeytonFarquhar1 You're extrapolating and you know it. There has been no indication that she acts like she is the boss of the English language. You have noticed that she began a sceptic's community of women's issues, noticed that it employs the term "chick", and began freeloading premises about her alleged sense of entitlement. I'm glad that you're trying to spread awareness about women's issues, but you can choose a wiser target than the leader of a women's awareness community.

[PeytonFarquhar1]

@KMallinson - she's a "leader" of the women's awareness community?

[KMallinson]

@PeytonFarquhar1 Of A woman's awareness community.

[PeytonFarquhar1]

@KMallinson - She's a know-nothing complainer. She does any "women's awareness community" no favors.

[KMallinson]

@PeytonFarquhar1 Betwixt you and her, it seems pretty clear who's the know-nothing complainer. Reading her material and watching her shorts, she's raised scientific awareness about misinformation that by design or negligence subjugates women, and here you are, in a furor, with a vague defamation. Clearly this is about some other issue, considering your attitude, but unless this is all hyperbole, this isn't a very-well informed complaint. There are real problems to get angry over.

[PeytonFarquhar1]

@KMallinson - I haven't extrapolated anything. I've followed her blog, and she sees fit to refer to people as dicks , but also complain about other people's use of the word "cunt." Yes, that's a sense of entitlement, when one can lecture others on proper word usage relative to profanity, but feel freely entitled to use profanity as one sees fit.

[KMallinson]

@PeytonFarquhar1 Besides, there's a context of power relationship in terms like "cunt". Her objections were never in regards to profanity or decency; it's always been the nature and context of the term. Men who call women cunts are usually belitting and objectifying women in general.

Still, it's a fair point, one I might even bring up with her. But it does not hurt the efficacy of what she's said.

[PeytonFarquhar1]

@KMallinson - But, women who call men dicks, or men who call men cunts, or women who call men assholes - they're not belittling? No objectification there? How the hell does she know? She's a skeptic - does she have a study showing or providing any evidence that the mindsets of men using the word cunt is different than the mindset of women using the word dick?

What she said is silly tripe, and she pretty much makes it up as she goes along.

[PeytonFarquhar1]

@KMallinson - and, in fact, she's a disservice to women in general. She's just trying to re-impose a 1950's style "proper etiquette in mixed company" set of rules, but couch it in feminist terms. Implicit in her opinion is that women are too delicate to handle being offended with rude words. Men, of course, are dicks who can go fuck themselves.

[dgdfhfghgfhgfgffjhj]

Skeptics don't watch such presentations due to a personal connection with the subject matter, which typically doesn't exist (such as bigfoot), it is an intellectual pursuit of debunking lies and nonsense. We may or may not know any "believers", but we certainly run into them in the media and public life.

The rational comparison would be something like whether you know anyone with false beliefs about women vs. whether you know anyone who believes in homeopathy or bigfoot.

[Kludge420]

Wow, kinda dicky. Minotaur believers think you're kind of being a jerk. Why are you talking out against them? Kind of dicky. You should stop being a dick. If a Minotaur believer sneezed I bet you wouldn't even say "Minotaur Horn You!" What a dick.

[kensington25]

Excellent speech. Well put :)