Computers can and should have the capability of flying the aircraft with both pilots incapacitated. It does not make any sense that with all our technology, pilots can still fly an aircraft into the ground.
All black boxes are arcane technology. All flight data can be up-linked simultaneously to satellites anywhere in the world at any time and then relayed to the flight headquarters. Its time all commercial aircraft have this capability and it is extremely economical compared to searching two miles down in the worlds oceans for the flight record.
@dwetick that is exactly what an AirBus aircraft does: It actually sends data continuously when there are technical issues... as in the case of AF447. Still, voice recording is essential to determine what went wrong after the computers shut off, and why the pilots did not employ standard procedures to stabilize the AC. Pitch up, go to 80+% power. I guess after listening to experts, that the actual crash was the result of human error, not technical!
Someone in a segment on the crash mentioned real time flight parameter data streaming of the parameters the boxes measure. That's a pretty good idea. And, if they didn't want to do that, couldn't data bursts every 30 or seconds be done?
Not being funny, but since we know that the earth is covered by two thirds of water and thus an aircraft is quite likely to crash into it, would it not be a good idea to make these black boxes float.
These boxes may be indestructable but if you can't find them then there as good as useless.
@telx2010 lol isnt that easy.. the blackbox isnt just a part of the plane that you can take in your hands or not.. Im not sure where its located, but its in the engines of the cabin and it will go down to the ocean with the rest of the plane
@telx2010 Its all very well to make them float, but they are still bolted in. Not to mention the 1000's of kilos of steel and various other materials that make up an aircraft that could lay on top of them. Its a nice idea but a plane hitting the water like this is a very rare occurrence, even rarer would be the boxes breaking free completely and floating to the surface.
There are two boxes located near the tail in every aircraft. They are virtualy industructable, one box records the voice in the cockpit, the other one records the flight data. At the end of each flight the blackboxes resets and records the next flight.
Considering that for the few nuclear submarines in active service around the world many of them have more important missions than looking for a downed airliner. Trust me I have respect for those who were killed, but you have to look at the reality in which military resources being used in a civil search role is not extremely common.
It's media control....They do a damn good job of keeping viewers on the edge of their seats. Only two outcomes can happen. Either they found them or not. If they have a signal, they have located them and just need to go get them...like stated before. Also someone mentioned using Dolphins....Thay have been used for that. But you can't send a Dolphin 3 to 5 miles down where the oceanic pressure has crushing forces. The subs are made to withstand the pressure differential.
And why are they using a stupid submarine to find the black box when, as everyone knows, the armies train some dolphins for that kind of wreck search, who have a much better auditory system than us?
Indeed. They could have gotten one of the dolphins that speaks French, Portuguese, and can has a GPS-linked depth-o-meter that can hear a non-pulsing transmission coming from 5,000m below sea level. You should send your suggestion to the search party asap. They might give you a reward.
Man....they shouldn't use the word "located." It lead me to think they "recovered" it and I'm sure the people mourning the people on that flight don't appreciate it any more than I do.
@Anakahashi008 Why not? Both words have different meanings. They did indeed locate them. They found them, located them and discovered their whereabouts. However you put it, recovery comes after location. How should they say it?
I thought those boxes were recently found. That must be another aircraft
nld1960 3 weeks ago
Computers can and should have the capability of flying the aircraft with both pilots incapacitated. It does not make any sense that with all our technology, pilots can still fly an aircraft into the ground.
dwetick 8 months ago
All black boxes are arcane technology. All flight data can be up-linked simultaneously to satellites anywhere in the world at any time and then relayed to the flight headquarters. Its time all commercial aircraft have this capability and it is extremely economical compared to searching two miles down in the worlds oceans for the flight record.
dwetick 9 months ago
@dwetick that is exactly what an AirBus aircraft does: It actually sends data continuously when there are technical issues... as in the case of AF447. Still, voice recording is essential to determine what went wrong after the computers shut off, and why the pilots did not employ standard procedures to stabilize the AC. Pitch up, go to 80+% power. I guess after listening to experts, that the actual crash was the result of human error, not technical!
DeVizardofOZ 8 months ago
@27kaden No, official information hasnt been released yet.
Pvjinflight 9 months ago
put a gps on every blackboxes!
altec122 10 months ago
@altec122 there are gps on black boxes but they only last for a short time
TheDevineBeing 9 months ago
@TheDevineBeing
I see, Can't wait to see the full air crash investigation on this flight and may the souls on that flight rest in peace.
thanks for the info TheDevineBeing
altec122 9 months ago
Someone in a segment on the crash mentioned real time flight parameter data streaming of the parameters the boxes measure. That's a pretty good idea. And, if they didn't want to do that, couldn't data bursts every 30 or seconds be done?
aviationwingnut 1 year ago
5000 meters! that is 16,404 ft, that is deeper than Titanic.
1MattDamon 1 year ago
This turned out to be false.
iiiset 1 year ago
if a black box is indistructable why not make a plane out of the material a black box is made of?
xxiceyshotxx 1 year ago
@xxiceyshotxx It's not the material, it's the construction... something you can't replicate on a large scale...
blueb0g 11 months ago
did they find the boxes yet??
superkryp13 1 year ago
@superkryp13 They are located in the rear of most aircraft. In the event of a crash, this is the most likely section to take the least impact.
MPAH1981 10 months ago
@MPAH1981 thanks
superkryp13 10 months ago
Not being funny, but since we know that the earth is covered by two thirds of water and thus an aircraft is quite likely to crash into it, would it not be a good idea to make these black boxes float.
These boxes may be indestructable but if you can't find them then there as good as useless.
telx2010 2 years ago 23
@telx2010 This is an excellent point, I had never thought of this point before.
speedbird1123 1 year ago
@telx2010 lol isnt that easy.. the blackbox isnt just a part of the plane that you can take in your hands or not.. Im not sure where its located, but its in the engines of the cabin and it will go down to the ocean with the rest of the plane
SacredBlazeXxX 1 year ago
@telx2010 Its all very well to make them float, but they are still bolted in. Not to mention the 1000's of kilos of steel and various other materials that make up an aircraft that could lay on top of them. Its a nice idea but a plane hitting the water like this is a very rare occurrence, even rarer would be the boxes breaking free completely and floating to the surface.
MPAH1981 10 months ago
@telx2010 You should patent this idea of yours. Worth millions if it doesn't exist already.
amirali23 7 months ago
@FSXforChrist
thx alot for the information ..
happy new year
1987ArabicGirl 2 years ago
but they never foun it
PilotInCommand100 2 years ago
what are black boxes?
mzxjizzo 2 years ago
There are two boxes located near the tail in every aircraft. They are virtualy industructable, one box records the voice in the cockpit, the other one records the flight data. At the end of each flight the blackboxes resets and records the next flight.
umahuma4 2 years ago
This Comore Yemenia flight occurs, exactly, on the 30th day, when these AF 447 black boxes are supposed to stop emitting.
Yeahhh, I know, I'm just another conspi-theorist, yeah.
fr000tch 2 years ago
And then, what?
Since the next crash near Comores Island : suddenly total blackout, no more news about AF 447.
Weirdo kind of?
fr000tch 2 years ago
You would think, with all the money they presume they have, they would have more than 1 "nuclear submarine"looking for this box
LOKITOA 2 years ago
Considering that for the few nuclear submarines in active service around the world many of them have more important missions than looking for a downed airliner. Trust me I have respect for those who were killed, but you have to look at the reality in which military resources being used in a civil search role is not extremely common.
cappilot12 2 years ago
It's media control....They do a damn good job of keeping viewers on the edge of their seats. Only two outcomes can happen. Either they found them or not. If they have a signal, they have located them and just need to go get them...like stated before. Also someone mentioned using Dolphins....Thay have been used for that. But you can't send a Dolphin 3 to 5 miles down where the oceanic pressure has crushing forces. The subs are made to withstand the pressure differential.
FujiR500 2 years ago
And why are they using a stupid submarine to find the black box when, as everyone knows, the armies train some dolphins for that kind of wreck search, who have a much better auditory system than us?
fr000tch 2 years ago
Indeed. They could have gotten one of the dolphins that speaks French, Portuguese, and can has a GPS-linked depth-o-meter that can hear a non-pulsing transmission coming from 5,000m below sea level. You should send your suggestion to the search party asap. They might give you a reward.
scot4204 2 years ago
scot4204, you are my new hero man. Thank you. LOL!
fr000tch, please use contraceptives.
liliokilani 2 years ago
You can't use a dolphin at those depths
cappilot12 2 years ago
Man....they shouldn't use the word "located." It lead me to think they "recovered" it and I'm sure the people mourning the people on that flight don't appreciate it any more than I do.
Anakahashi008 2 years ago
What a pointless comment. They located the boxes and that is one step further to recover them. Should they just keep quite?
sassa07 2 years ago
Sure tell yourself that's what I meant by they "shouldn't use that word."
Anakahashi008 2 years ago
@Anakahashi008 Why not? Both words have different meanings. They did indeed locate them. They found them, located them and discovered their whereabouts. However you put it, recovery comes after location. How should they say it?
MPAH1981 10 months ago
shit..
Photolab39 2 years ago
Turns out they havent found them
RedflagM 2 years ago
oh that's too bad!
America2France 2 years ago