The MMA culture in Japan is hard for Americans to understand. A lot of the fights In early Pancrase, Rings,Shooto, and to a more extent Kingdom were works and not shoots. In fact it wasent intill the success of UFC in 93 that these company slowly moved to have 99% of there fights shoots. Its like looking at night and day when you see an early 90's pancrase fight to a mid 90's one. Either way the fighters were legit catch/shooto fighters and personally Pancrase matches are my favorite to watch.
yea i heard all the fights in this league were. Every once in a while when the opponent that was supposed to when got knocked out, they'd just call it a draw instead of letting the the person be declared the winner. that really sucks
OH DAMN! I thought you might be acting a little dramatic but I actually cringed when I saw his ankle fold like that. He must have had better control than it appeared to have not snapped it. That looked vicious. Sheesh!
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I've never understood why they count Pancrase matches as MMA. It was an entirely different sport. For this reason I feel Ken and Bas are highly overrated as MMA fighters, take out the Pancrase and they have nothing. Frank at least has a good MMA record without Pancrase.
A classic example of a drag-down and drag-out fight built on dependable technique that delivers a win. Camera, Lights - but little action. OK - a win is a win. I couldn't do as well.
I wish frank added his own personal commentary with his fights, like the Bas Rutten Career DVD set. Did you see the palm strike Frank landed on Vernon, was that because Vernon striked Frank? I couldn't see clearly because the referee was in the way, it looked like he was cross facing him. I know theres an ettiquette in Pancrase where striking is restrained to stand up only. What do you think?
That's going to be the fight of all fights! With the...as Frank puts it... KENBO disaster with EliteXC, Shamrock vs Shamrock is going to sell out stadiums and bust power grids using Pay Per View.
Ken is going to be like "blah blah blah family's involved IT'S PERSONAL... IM GONNA TEACH THIS BOY A LESSON" etc etc with an inflated ego + chin held high. And Frank will be laugh and be like "Geez Kenneth you always blow your pre-fight [erspective way out of proportion".
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The MMA culture in Japan is hard for Americans to understand. A lot of the fights In early Pancrase, Rings,Shooto, and to a more extent Kingdom were works and not shoots. In fact it wasent intill the success of UFC in 93 that these company slowly moved to have 99% of there fights shoots. Its like looking at night and day when you see an early 90's pancrase fight to a mid 90's one. Either way the fighters were legit catch/shooto fighters and personally Pancrase matches are my favorite to watch.
b7r7u7c7e 5 months ago
most of you are stupid, Shamrock and Vernon were both awesome around here. Frank peaked around UFC 22.
chrisbary 6 months ago
Vernon does not take no for an answer...lol
JawMc 8 months ago
Frank = shit
HelpMePlis3 2 years ago
Man vernon white sucks so bad.
jitteryjoe 2 years ago
should be 'tiger black' lool
CloudFROST 2 years ago
I guess sort of like 'Tyler Black' should be 'Tyler White'.
walwaad 1 year ago
i don't know why they consider pancrase as mma, to me they are a totally different kinds of combat sports.
tristanv1 2 years ago
wtf Sham's doing at 3:34 =))) ???????
nguyentrongnhan 2 years ago 2
Lol trying to do a hip toss it works very well for throwing your opponent off so you can get him off the mount
TheDTclan 2 years ago
Who is the commentator here ,Couture?
Tnx guys
Greetz from Amsterdam.
ries5 2 years ago
not couture, its ken shamrock
QNZSTREETFIGHT 2 years ago
@ries5
Ken Shamrock
ezzie82 11 months ago
omg! at 5:20, vernons ankle nearly broke, sick!
1MuFfiNz1 2 years ago
This hight was fixed.
baffew 2 years ago
You're dumb
spellingitgood 2 years ago
yea i heard all the fights in this league were. Every once in a while when the opponent that was supposed to when got knocked out, they'd just call it a draw instead of letting the the person be declared the winner. that really sucks
ADdadirector 2 years ago
it looks a bit fake
BrianKerr0013 2 years ago
5:20
Vernon nearly lost his ankle.
joeyisfunny 2 years ago
OH DAMN! I thought you might be acting a little dramatic but I actually cringed when I saw his ankle fold like that. He must have had better control than it appeared to have not snapped it. That looked vicious. Sheesh!
spellingitgood 2 years ago
I do that to all of my friends because I grew up watching you do this to people! THANK YOU FRANK!
NextMessiah 2 years ago
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I've never understood why they count Pancrase matches as MMA. It was an entirely different sport. For this reason I feel Ken and Bas are highly overrated as MMA fighters, take out the Pancrase and they have nothing. Frank at least has a good MMA record without Pancrase.
timeswasting 2 years ago
They practice mixed martial arts, so it's MMA. Not UFC, but yes it's MMA.
AdamSwaluk 2 years ago
Frank Shamrock is a savage beast ! A Super Bad Ass!!
royzrt 2 years ago
I never knew these guys went at it, Vernon White and Frank Shamrock were both Lion's Den guys at one point...
cmarshall2008 3 years ago
Man the only fights I enjoy the most are Pancrase fights...
Dunno why.
backstabba101 3 years ago 7
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You like dudes with hooker boots who slap each other, LOL.
HumanTarget420 3 years ago
HAHAHA!
Maybe. (Smile)
backstabba101 3 years ago
@backstabba101 It's the underwear.
briant420 7 months ago
@backstabba101 probably the ring
chrisbary 6 months ago
Watch Vernon's right leg at around 5:20... could have been REALLY bad had he been twisted any farther!
I was expecting him to start screaming from a broken ankle or knee... close one.
joeyisfunny 3 years ago
A classic example of a drag-down and drag-out fight built on dependable technique that delivers a win. Camera, Lights - but little action. OK - a win is a win. I couldn't do as well.
SpeedPsyche 3 years ago
SICK!
Ibanezkid84 3 years ago
frank, i fucken love you man.
u rule!!
aznguy11111 3 years ago
I sent frank an email about any very very early vids that werent on the net, and he posted this vid here a couple days later. Thanks Frank!
joeyisfunny 3 years ago
I wish frank added his own personal commentary with his fights, like the Bas Rutten Career DVD set. Did you see the palm strike Frank landed on Vernon, was that because Vernon striked Frank? I couldn't see clearly because the referee was in the way, it looked like he was cross facing him. I know theres an ettiquette in Pancrase where striking is restrained to stand up only. What do you think?
Garethtkd 3 years ago 2
Are you fighting again soon? The fans need you back!
Judetehdude 3 years ago 9
Frank, when are you going to fight Ken?
Garethtkd 3 years ago
I believe its set for April '09.
joeyisfunny 3 years ago
That's going to be the fight of all fights! With the...as Frank puts it... KENBO disaster with EliteXC, Shamrock vs Shamrock is going to sell out stadiums and bust power grids using Pay Per View.
Ken is going to be like "blah blah blah family's involved IT'S PERSONAL... IM GONNA TEACH THIS BOY A LESSON" etc etc with an inflated ego + chin held high. And Frank will be laugh and be like "Geez Kenneth you always blow your pre-fight [erspective way out of proportion".
Garethtkd 3 years ago