Yes a pity. But proof comes from the message itself, it's a kind of moral emotional deep hitting thing that resonates within those who have been responded to it's call. But anyway it's good that you have matured a bit since then. Although ending your reply with "such nonsense" shows that you haven’t quite made it in the area of maturity. Anyway hope you have a blessed life full of happiness prosperity and contentment.
@AdstarAPAD How does saying "such nonsense" demonstrate a level of immaturity? I suppose if the use somehow hurt your feelings... well, I'm not sure what to say in that case... I'm just at a loss to see how the phrase can be used to demonstrate that someone hasn't "made it in the area of maturity".
Shame, this video was made over three years ago, and no one as been able to provide anything in the way of evidence to convince me, *and others*, that religion is something to be taken seriously.
@IWantToBelieve2887 The mature response would be " i have considered your thoughts but i am still not convinced by them"... When i see someone say "such nonsense" i see a picture of a 2 year old sticking their tongue out at me. It so immature, atheists think they are making a statement of high impact when they say garbage like that. But to me it is just causes eye roll.
@AdstarAPAD I wasn't referring to your comments. I was referring to such ideas in general. Since when has using the word' nonsense' become immature? It's rather odd to say that using that word in particular, when describing such unsubstantiated claims, is immature. Nonsense is nonsense no matter how it's sliced.
You end your video stating that God is a lie... But then you go on to say your an agnostic and want to believe??? Very conflicting two minded statements there.
@AdstarAPAD Re-read the question, as it seems you misunderstand. You also misstate what I say that I am, as I never said I was *only* an agnostic.
When I made this video I was much more naive than I am now. I was more childish, as is evidenced by the way I use the tagline for the T.V. show 'The X-Files'; "I Want To Believe". That's where it came from. I have no reason now to believe in such nonsense. (cont'd)
Next question: I do not believe God will be proven by irrefutable (scientific measurement type) proof. I do not believe God wants to be proven in this way. God wants to use His message as the method of attracting people who are moved by they message into belief. God as the creator of the universe is not part of the universe; Science only has the tools to measure things of this universe. Therefore science cannot prove God neither can it disprove God.
Question 3: what if they interpreted God's word the wrong way.. If they did so then they where not guided in understanding by the Holy Spirit. So why they believe in God they do not believe God. can you see the difference? You see the Message allows for those who believe in God but do not truly believe God to create for themselves an alternate god of their own creation. But to do this they have to be rejectors of important parts of the Message of God. And being rejectors they are condemned.
Question 2: Well you have two questions there. First part. God inspired men to right through the Helper known as the Holy Spirit. Second part. Yes it is open to interpretation. Some people do believe God exists but they want a God that will be in agreement with their view of what a god should be like. These will see to interpret scriptures to conform to their view. They may even seek to disregard some scriptures or given them symbolic interpretations to conform them to their views.
To the second point you added to your question. I believe it is natural for people to assess other people. And yes as you are assessing Christians i am assessing you. But Judgement only comes if either of us carries out a punishment upon each other. Christians (well true ones anyway) do not call you a sinner and then grab stones to carry out a stoning upon you. Why because we are not called upon to judge. Get it?
Question 1. I believe Jesus was talking about carrying out Judgements. That is the meaning was not about observing a person, perceiving a problem or something wrong with them and then bringing the problem to their attention. But it was about carrying out a punishment upon them because of their problem. So as a Christian i will never be a judge in a court or a prison guard or an executioner and if called for jury duty i will refuse to take part in it.
A:1)Mat7:1 & Rom2:1 were talking about hypocrites. We see this with authority/government figures/psycho significant others/religious people who dont practice what they preach. When they are caught what do we think of them? Dont take the judge thing too literally. Not peeing on people is a good judgement. Judging is needed, there are murderers, rapists, drug related crimes etc. Its better to help than to judge /treat others how youd want to be treated /you are part of the solution or the problem
Dear IWantToBelieve2887 - Yes I can think for myself - but my thoughts without Purple Unicorns that live in my closet have no meaning - Scientific proof is not absolute - And I will only respect someone if the claim to have all the "absolute" answers to me, of events that happened prior to any human existence.
Man, stupid people are doing far more harm than they realize.
@IWantToBelieve2887 I understand the concept of the ole, "I know you are but what am I?" After all, I used to work with children. But how does this one make sense? Are you saying they DON'T do harm; and that I DO harm by saying they do?
@IWantToBelieve2887 I've no patience for the silly accusations used by the superstitious to avoid claims and positions you take.
Yes, my point (from the start) was that, "stupid people are doing far more harm than they realize." Your bizarre response then was: "What you've just said in your comment indicates a case in point."
I then called you on it with the questions you must avoid about your claim/comment, "Are you saying they DON'T do harm; and that I DO harm by saying they do?"
@ksmartialarts Look, I'm not even sure as to what you're talking about. "... silly accusations used by the superstitious to avoid claims and positions you take." Where have I done this? I'm not superstitious nor trying to avoid claims, as I don't think I've made any, I've only asked questions (in the video).
You said, in part, in your first comment, "...And I will only respect someone if the claim to have all the "absolute" answers to me..." , which, I'm sorry to say, is stupid.
@IWantToBelieve2887 BTW, you do know that I am not a believer, right? I hope you didn't take my first comment as non-sarcastic. I was actually complimenting you, and commenting on the superstitious.
Dear Iwant2believe2887 - Christians do not Judge when they follow God's Word - God is the Judge - Just follow God's Word in the New Testament - God needs people on earth to do His work on the Earth at this time - the Bible teaches that we must believe without scientific proof of God - May the Lord Jesus Christ Bless You Abundantly in Jesus' Name - Zenaslaw
Dear IWanttoBelieve2887- God requires faith in Him - Holy Bible Hebrews 11:6 - His creation is proof that He exists Holy Bible Romans 1:20 - God is all powerful but He gave people free will on Earth Holy Bible Genesis 1:28 - Faith is good because through faith God can work miracles - may the Lord Jesus Christ Bless you Abunddantly & give you wisdom in this posting in Jesus' Name- Zenaslaw
Is it at all possible to answer my questions without using your holy book? In other words can you think for yourself? It's great that you can cite your source, heck even I can do that, but can you give me your interpretation (or your take) on that citation.
I guess what I am really trying to get at with the questions that I ask is this: I'd like interpretation, not regurgitation!
Dear IWantToBelieve2887 - Yes I can think for myself - but my thoughts without God have no meaning - Scientific proof is not absolute - People trust science too much - Science lies sometimes - My experience with God show me that people can trust Him because God doesn't lie - In my experience God has placed people to do His will on the earth & God is all powerful - but He gives people free will - Faith is good because believing causes God to work miracles - may the Lord Jesus Christ bless U -
I beg to differ sir, my thoughts have meaning regardless of my belief or non belief in a deity. Nothing is absolute, I've never said that science is, in fact I that is one of the best things about science is is that it is falsifiable. I wish I could say the same thing about my experience in believing in a deity. If god is all powerful, then why doesn't he use his power to abolish all things evil? In my opinion, because there is evil, this refutes that god is "all powerful"
(and this is regardless of whether we have free will or not). In his "all powerful"-ness, god could bypass free will. When I had 'faith', god didn't do any miracles.
Dear IWantToBelieve2887 - God is limited by His Word Holy Bible Genesis 1:28 says God has given people dominion in the Earth - He can't violate His word by taking it away to rid the World of evil - but rest assured God the Righteous Judge will rid the World of evil at the time apppointed - May the Lord Jesus Christ Bless You Abundantly & give you wisdom in this posting - Zenaslaw
I have never heard about the god of the abrahamic religions being limited. If god is all powerful then he can't be limited, by anything. And what is he waiting for?
IWantToBelieve2887 - In the Bible there was a World Leader but his kingdom was governed according to the laws of the Medes & Persians - that means that once a law was made it can not be broken - God is like that - He has the power but He will not use His power to break His Word -
God is merciful - He is waiting for as many people to come into His family - Also He is waiting for the World's Sin to reach its fullest potential - when the time is right He will Judge the World - Wisdom 2 U
Dear IWantToBelieve2887 - The World believes that nothing is Absolute but Christians believe in Absolutes - God allows people to have power in the earth -they use it for evil - at the time appointed God will judge the Earth & reestablish His Holy Kingdom on the Earth - Christians should seek God's Kingdom 1st & if people do that they would have the most important miracle being born in the Holy Spirit - that is promised by God Himself Who can not lie - Wisdom & Blessings in God - Zenaslaw
What do you mean 'the world'? If I am to take this to mean what I think it means (that everyone does not believe absolutes, but only christians do), then that, at least in my opinion, is painting people with a broad brush. If I were to do that then I would get into trouble.
I thought that 'his holy kingdom' was not of this earth?!
Dear IWantToBelieve2887 - Yes in this dispensation of time - His Holy Kingdom is not of the Earth - But when He Judges the World, He will set up His Kingdom on the Earth - may the Lord Jesus Christ give you wisdom on this posting & Bless You Abundantly in Jesus' Name - Zenaslaw
We can judge sin righteously, but not be hypocrites about. Thats all the bible is saying. Don't judge sinners unless you are not full of sins yourself. Judging sin itself is okay. Like judging murder as wrong or judging rape, adultery etc as wrong. Judging someone for not being perfect is wrong. Judging a clear and unrepent sinner who commits multiples sin without remorse is righteous judgement.
I guess I am looking at sin through a secular lens, although I do understand (at least I think I do) the theological concept of sin, and in my opinion it is complete insanity! What ever happened to the saying 'Don't judge a book by it's cover'? I prefer to do my best, I am only human and sometimes fall short of my best, not to judge.
Q1. I think you've got them in an inconsistency, though I've heard some apologists say that it is God who judges and they are just passing on the message according to standards in the bible.
Q2. The infallibility of the bible is a sticky notion. If they say that God guided the writers, then why did he not also guide the translation and interpretation of his perfect word?
Q3. I don't think anything is undeniable. Just look at creationists and evolution.
The whole thing about if God is real or not comes down to this: Fairies and Leprechauns are different. They are made up. The Leprechaun thing is just a visual metaphor for the Irish wanting/needing money. God is based on faith, those who need and/or want proof can wait until the end times. Christianity is a faith-based religion. You have to feel when God is with you. He's not made up, I know of a few incidents where somebody survived something, that was said to be scientifically impossible.
Yeah... most likely. I think what I would be crying about more is the fact that 'god' decided to allow me to lose my faith and show himself in the future. When all I want is physical evidence of his existence... but you and I both know that this will never happen.
Look at the flip side though... What if at the end of all things 'god' isn't there. Will you be crying?
No! Don't blame God for your loss of faith. He gives us the power of free will. You chose to lose your faith. We choose by our actions, if we make it into Heaven or not. No I will not be crying, beacause He DOES in fact exist. there is no "if not".
I didn't want to choose to lose my faith. It wasn't a A) keep my faith or B) lose my faith kind of a decision. It just happened. I thought that the third aspect of the TRINITY was supposed to 'guide' me with my faith. This, unfortunately, did not happen as I thought it would.
How do you know for a fact that he does exist? Have you seen him? (If you see him in the near future... have a camcorder handy.)
Honestly man... I don't believe "God" is a he... there is a lot missing because of idiotic "conquorers" who burned, melted, and destroyed all influencial, ancient, foreign, and religious texts because of their ignorance... but God is an amazing concept and to me everything has to start and come from somewhere...
I am trying to help you here. It's a test of faith. If you believe with your heart you will understand. Also don't go with what the rest of the world deems as okay. We are supposed to follow the will of God, not the way of the world. If someone one deems you as cooky, don't worry about what they think of you. As long as God knows your heart is true to Him that is all that matters. It is based on faith in the Lord and good will. You will understand when you begin to believe.
Who else is there to blame for a loss of faith, other than God, Joshez? The definition of God makes it his fault.
If he is all powerful, and all knowing, then he would know the questions IWantToBelieve would have before he even had them.
It even says so in scripture.
So, if God knowing this, still refused to show himself or in the very least, show some physical evidence of his own existence, how can it be considered Believe's fault?
He does know before hand. He gives us free will so we deal with it in our on way. Life wouldn't be a challenge if WE always knew the answer or outcome before hand. You go with what you really believe is the right thing to do. Then in the end you will be judged. P.S. What is the scripture you speak of?
if i actually had a chance to tell god i do not wish to be born into this world in the first place , rather than being borne then having a free will , only to realise that the only free will i wanted and needed was for jesus christ to prevent my birth into this world.
1)Technically you are just asking questions, not being judgemental.
The Bible contradicts itself literally hunreds fo times on many different issues.
2)Because God is, and always was imaginary. All evidence supports this conclusion.
3)You can disprove God the same way you can disprove a Leprachaun or Fairy. Nothing is known with absolute certainty, but if there is ZERO evidence for something's existence (esp with modern science) it is very safe and logical to assume it doesn't exist.
buffdaddy, I agree with your first remark. Yes the bible does have flaws... just like anything man made/written especially when regarding how one should live. It's obvious that we/humans are by no means perfect, and in no way could understand something perfect if handed to us (ten commandments..).
But in my opinion "God" wouldn't be "God" if we knew exactly what all he/she/it (God) is... that would completely discount Faith as a must have when concerning "God".
And your third comment is absurd. Regarding "God" in the same context as a fairy... I mean really. Right now archeology has more to prove a "God" theory than evolution (no missing link.. and there isn't one)... and scientists are on the verge of proving the "God" matter which connects everything together... the base of every particle.
Now I'm not saying that the only way 2 believe in God is through christianity... I have a very open mind when it comes to this subject.
However; christianity is the first way that God proved his existence TO ME... I experienced something that can only be regarded as supernatural, and I have to stand beside Christianity because of that reason...
even though the first roman catholic church, the crusades, all the hipocratical popes and leaders, and the nice men who pulled from the original texts what is now the Holy Bible are manipulative and ultimately full of shit I do not agree with.
**I experienced something that can only be regarded as supernatural, and I have to stand beside Christianity because of that reason...**
How "skeptical" of you.
**Christianity because of that reason...nice men who pulled from the original texts what is now the Holy Bible are manipulative and ultimately full of shit I do not agree with.**
Ummm, with no Bible, there is no Christianity. Who do you think pot the Stores of the Bible together? Hindus?
-Of course, c the skepticism stopped once I experienced what I did... everyone is skeptical before they believe, or I was anyway, but that is how I think until something is proved to me, I will always be a little skeptical.
But my faith now is based upon more than just the "bible"... and if you haven't gathered, I'm not your conventional christian. There are a many similarities between christianity and other predominate religions... I find it very intriguing
And buffdaddy, I was in no way trying to degrade or disprove your thoughts on the subject... I have an open mind and like hearing other people's points of view... I am a complex and somewhat of an intelligent person, so do me a favor and don't jump to conclusions or be judgemental about what is written here, words can only express so much of your thoughts when regarding this subject...
"There are a many similarities between christianity and other predominate religions..."
ya, they are MAN-MADE orginizations that try to convince people that their invisible pink unicorn is the prettiest.
Also, Xianity and Islam are both Abrahamic religions and they are predominate b/c they spent 1400 years wiping out the competition, destroying temples and literally torturing people who questioned their dogmas.
Name one piece of physical evidence for a god of anykind.
That "missing link" you are talking about has been dicredited since the 19th century. There hasn't been a "missing link" in human evolution since the 30's.
Evolution is a fact and anyone who tells you different is stupid or lying.
I believe evolution is a fact... don't get me wrong, but "I" personally believe there is a step in the evolutionary chain that is very blurry and can't, at the moment, be explained.... the missing link I was referring to isn't a half man/half ape, but the blurry "not proven" area in the link between humanity and primates... and if you say there isn't you are lying
The problem isn't FINDING fossils to link us to apes (we are apes by classification, hominid) the problem that there are SO MANY that scientists are having a hard time sorting out which speices are our direct ancestors, and which are evolutionary dead ends.
Yes a pity. But proof comes from the message itself, it's a kind of moral emotional deep hitting thing that resonates within those who have been responded to it's call. But anyway it's good that you have matured a bit since then. Although ending your reply with "such nonsense" shows that you haven’t quite made it in the area of maturity. Anyway hope you have a blessed life full of happiness prosperity and contentment.
AdstarAPAD 4 months ago
@AdstarAPAD How does saying "such nonsense" demonstrate a level of immaturity? I suppose if the use somehow hurt your feelings... well, I'm not sure what to say in that case... I'm just at a loss to see how the phrase can be used to demonstrate that someone hasn't "made it in the area of maturity".
Shame, this video was made over three years ago, and no one as been able to provide anything in the way of evidence to convince me, *and others*, that religion is something to be taken seriously.
IWantToBelieve2887 4 months ago
@IWantToBelieve2887 The mature response would be " i have considered your thoughts but i am still not convinced by them"... When i see someone say "such nonsense" i see a picture of a 2 year old sticking their tongue out at me. It so immature, atheists think they are making a statement of high impact when they say garbage like that. But to me it is just causes eye roll.
AdstarAPAD 4 months ago
@AdstarAPAD I wasn't referring to your comments. I was referring to such ideas in general. Since when has using the word' nonsense' become immature? It's rather odd to say that using that word in particular, when describing such unsubstantiated claims, is immature. Nonsense is nonsense no matter how it's sliced.
IWantToBelieve2887 4 months ago
You end your video stating that God is a lie... But then you go on to say your an agnostic and want to believe??? Very conflicting two minded statements there.
AdstarAPAD 4 months ago
@AdstarAPAD Re-read the question, as it seems you misunderstand. You also misstate what I say that I am, as I never said I was *only* an agnostic.
When I made this video I was much more naive than I am now. I was more childish, as is evidenced by the way I use the tagline for the T.V. show 'The X-Files'; "I Want To Believe". That's where it came from. I have no reason now to believe in such nonsense. (cont'd)
IWantToBelieve2887 4 months ago
(cont'd) Unless, of course, you could provide substantive evidence. Of which it seems hard for theists to provide. Pity.
IWantToBelieve2887 4 months ago
Next question: I do not believe God will be proven by irrefutable (scientific measurement type) proof. I do not believe God wants to be proven in this way. God wants to use His message as the method of attracting people who are moved by they message into belief. God as the creator of the universe is not part of the universe; Science only has the tools to measure things of this universe. Therefore science cannot prove God neither can it disprove God.
AdstarAPAD 4 months ago
Question 3: what if they interpreted God's word the wrong way.. If they did so then they where not guided in understanding by the Holy Spirit. So why they believe in God they do not believe God. can you see the difference? You see the Message allows for those who believe in God but do not truly believe God to create for themselves an alternate god of their own creation. But to do this they have to be rejectors of important parts of the Message of God. And being rejectors they are condemned.
AdstarAPAD 4 months ago
Question 2: Well you have two questions there. First part. God inspired men to right through the Helper known as the Holy Spirit. Second part. Yes it is open to interpretation. Some people do believe God exists but they want a God that will be in agreement with their view of what a god should be like. These will see to interpret scriptures to conform to their view. They may even seek to disregard some scriptures or given them symbolic interpretations to conform them to their views.
AdstarAPAD 4 months ago
To the second point you added to your question. I believe it is natural for people to assess other people. And yes as you are assessing Christians i am assessing you. But Judgement only comes if either of us carries out a punishment upon each other. Christians (well true ones anyway) do not call you a sinner and then grab stones to carry out a stoning upon you. Why because we are not called upon to judge. Get it?
AdstarAPAD 4 months ago
Question 1. I believe Jesus was talking about carrying out Judgements. That is the meaning was not about observing a person, perceiving a problem or something wrong with them and then bringing the problem to their attention. But it was about carrying out a punishment upon them because of their problem. So as a Christian i will never be a judge in a court or a prison guard or an executioner and if called for jury duty i will refuse to take part in it.
AdstarAPAD 4 months ago
Good try.lol Try praying, you just might be heard.
santafemama 1 year ago
@santafemama You see the thing is, I have tried praying, and it didn't do anything and nothing happened.
IWantToBelieve2887 1 year ago
A:1)Mat7:1 & Rom2:1 were talking about hypocrites. We see this with authority/government figures/psycho significant others/religious people who dont practice what they preach. When they are caught what do we think of them? Dont take the judge thing too literally. Not peeing on people is a good judgement. Judging is needed, there are murderers, rapists, drug related crimes etc. Its better to help than to judge /treat others how youd want to be treated /you are part of the solution or the problem
MrAubery 1 year ago
Dear IWantToBelieve2887 - Yes I can think for myself - but my thoughts without Purple Unicorns that live in my closet have no meaning - Scientific proof is not absolute - And I will only respect someone if the claim to have all the "absolute" answers to me, of events that happened prior to any human existence.
Man, stupid people are doing far more harm than they realize.
ksmartialarts 1 year ago
@ksmartialarts "...stupid people are doing far more harm than they realize."
What you've just said in your comment indicates a case in point.
IWantToBelieve2887 4 months ago
@IWantToBelieve2887 I understand the concept of the ole, "I know you are but what am I?" After all, I used to work with children. But how does this one make sense? Are you saying they DON'T do harm; and that I DO harm by saying they do?
Do you have any real point to make?
ksmartialarts 4 months ago
@ksmartialarts Do you? If you don't please stop and leave, I'm not stopping you.
IWantToBelieve2887 4 months ago
@IWantToBelieve2887 I've no patience for the silly accusations used by the superstitious to avoid claims and positions you take.
Yes, my point (from the start) was that, "stupid people are doing far more harm than they realize." Your bizarre response then was: "What you've just said in your comment indicates a case in point."
I then called you on it with the questions you must avoid about your claim/comment, "Are you saying they DON'T do harm; and that I DO harm by saying they do?"
ksmartialarts 4 months ago
@ksmartialarts Look, I'm not even sure as to what you're talking about. "... silly accusations used by the superstitious to avoid claims and positions you take." Where have I done this? I'm not superstitious nor trying to avoid claims, as I don't think I've made any, I've only asked questions (in the video).
You said, in part, in your first comment, "...And I will only respect someone if the claim to have all the "absolute" answers to me..." , which, I'm sorry to say, is stupid.
IWantToBelieve2887 4 months ago
@ksmartialarts Perhaps, I'm not understanding you. Perhaps, you can try being more clear. That might help clear things up.
IWantToBelieve2887 4 months ago
@IWantToBelieve2887 BTW, you do know that I am not a believer, right? I hope you didn't take my first comment as non-sarcastic. I was actually complimenting you, and commenting on the superstitious.
ksmartialarts 4 months ago
Dear Iwant2believe2887 - Christians do not Judge when they follow God's Word - God is the Judge - Just follow God's Word in the New Testament - God needs people on earth to do His work on the Earth at this time - the Bible teaches that we must believe without scientific proof of God - May the Lord Jesus Christ Bless You Abundantly in Jesus' Name - Zenaslaw
zenaslaw 2 years ago
Why is believing without scientific proof good? Why does god need people to do his work, if he is all powerful? Why not just do the work himself?
Why is faith (of any ilk) a good thing?
IWantToBelieve2887 2 years ago
Dear IWanttoBelieve2887- God requires faith in Him - Holy Bible Hebrews 11:6 - His creation is proof that He exists Holy Bible Romans 1:20 - God is all powerful but He gave people free will on Earth Holy Bible Genesis 1:28 - Faith is good because through faith God can work miracles - may the Lord Jesus Christ Bless you Abunddantly & give you wisdom in this posting in Jesus' Name- Zenaslaw
zenaslaw 2 years ago
Is it at all possible to answer my questions without using your holy book? In other words can you think for yourself? It's great that you can cite your source, heck even I can do that, but can you give me your interpretation (or your take) on that citation.
I guess what I am really trying to get at with the questions that I ask is this: I'd like interpretation, not regurgitation!
IWantToBelieve2887 2 years ago
Dear IWantToBelieve2887 - Yes I can think for myself - but my thoughts without God have no meaning - Scientific proof is not absolute - People trust science too much - Science lies sometimes - My experience with God show me that people can trust Him because God doesn't lie - In my experience God has placed people to do His will on the earth & God is all powerful - but He gives people free will - Faith is good because believing causes God to work miracles - may the Lord Jesus Christ bless U -
zenaslaw 2 years ago
I beg to differ sir, my thoughts have meaning regardless of my belief or non belief in a deity. Nothing is absolute, I've never said that science is, in fact I that is one of the best things about science is is that it is falsifiable. I wish I could say the same thing about my experience in believing in a deity. If god is all powerful, then why doesn't he use his power to abolish all things evil? In my opinion, because there is evil, this refutes that god is "all powerful"
IWantToBelieve2887 2 years ago
(and this is regardless of whether we have free will or not). In his "all powerful"-ness, god could bypass free will. When I had 'faith', god didn't do any miracles.
IWantToBelieve2887 2 years ago
Dear IWantToBelieve2887 - God is limited by His Word Holy Bible Genesis 1:28 says God has given people dominion in the Earth - He can't violate His word by taking it away to rid the World of evil - but rest assured God the Righteous Judge will rid the World of evil at the time apppointed - May the Lord Jesus Christ Bless You Abundantly & give you wisdom in this posting - Zenaslaw
zenaslaw 2 years ago
I have never heard about the god of the abrahamic religions being limited. If god is all powerful then he can't be limited, by anything. And what is he waiting for?
IWantToBelieve2887 2 years ago
IWantToBelieve2887 - In the Bible there was a World Leader but his kingdom was governed according to the laws of the Medes & Persians - that means that once a law was made it can not be broken - God is like that - He has the power but He will not use His power to break His Word -
God is merciful - He is waiting for as many people to come into His family - Also He is waiting for the World's Sin to reach its fullest potential - when the time is right He will Judge the World - Wisdom 2 U
zenaslaw 2 years ago
Dear IWantToBelieve2887 - The World believes that nothing is Absolute but Christians believe in Absolutes - God allows people to have power in the earth -they use it for evil - at the time appointed God will judge the Earth & reestablish His Holy Kingdom on the Earth - Christians should seek God's Kingdom 1st & if people do that they would have the most important miracle being born in the Holy Spirit - that is promised by God Himself Who can not lie - Wisdom & Blessings in God - Zenaslaw
zenaslaw 2 years ago
What do you mean 'the world'? If I am to take this to mean what I think it means (that everyone does not believe absolutes, but only christians do), then that, at least in my opinion, is painting people with a broad brush. If I were to do that then I would get into trouble.
I thought that 'his holy kingdom' was not of this earth?!
IWantToBelieve2887 2 years ago
Dear IWantToBelieve2887 - Yes in this dispensation of time - His Holy Kingdom is not of the Earth - But when He Judges the World, He will set up His Kingdom on the Earth - may the Lord Jesus Christ give you wisdom on this posting & Bless You Abundantly in Jesus' Name - Zenaslaw
zenaslaw 2 years ago
We can judge sin righteously, but not be hypocrites about. Thats all the bible is saying. Don't judge sinners unless you are not full of sins yourself. Judging sin itself is okay. Like judging murder as wrong or judging rape, adultery etc as wrong. Judging someone for not being perfect is wrong. Judging a clear and unrepent sinner who commits multiples sin without remorse is righteous judgement.
ahmalala 3 years ago
I guess I am looking at sin through a secular lens, although I do understand (at least I think I do) the theological concept of sin, and in my opinion it is complete insanity! What ever happened to the saying 'Don't judge a book by it's cover'? I prefer to do my best, I am only human and sometimes fall short of my best, not to judge.
IWantToBelieve2887 2 years ago
And just for the record, I do think that anything that infringes upon another human beings rights is wrong.
IWantToBelieve2887 2 years ago
Q1. I think you've got them in an inconsistency, though I've heard some apologists say that it is God who judges and they are just passing on the message according to standards in the bible.
Q2. The infallibility of the bible is a sticky notion. If they say that God guided the writers, then why did he not also guide the translation and interpretation of his perfect word?
Q3. I don't think anything is undeniable. Just look at creationists and evolution.
riversonthemoon 3 years ago 6
There is no Kodak proof. But there are miracles and that is all the proof you need as well as the bible being written.
JoshezDodge 3 years ago
google "human evolution" for Kodak proof.
buffdaddy3144 3 years ago
PS to JoshezD and charles 54.
when you google human evolution, look at the websites, not the joke pictures that appear at the top.
wikipedia has a "Comparative table of Homo species" where you can literally look at pictures from various human species.
buffdaddy3144 3 years ago
...
JoshezDodge 3 years ago
The whole thing about if God is real or not comes down to this: Fairies and Leprechauns are different. They are made up. The Leprechaun thing is just a visual metaphor for the Irish wanting/needing money. God is based on faith, those who need and/or want proof can wait until the end times. Christianity is a faith-based religion. You have to feel when God is with you. He's not made up, I know of a few incidents where somebody survived something, that was said to be scientifically impossible.
JoshezDodge 3 years ago
"He's (God) not made up,..."
HA! This is flat out the funniest thing I have heard all day! HA! HA! HA!
IWantToBelieve2887 3 years ago
Laugh when He comes. More than likely you will be cowering somewhere crying for your momma.
JoshezDodge 3 years ago
Yeah... most likely. I think what I would be crying about more is the fact that 'god' decided to allow me to lose my faith and show himself in the future. When all I want is physical evidence of his existence... but you and I both know that this will never happen.
Look at the flip side though... What if at the end of all things 'god' isn't there. Will you be crying?
IWantToBelieve2887 3 years ago
No! Don't blame God for your loss of faith. He gives us the power of free will. You chose to lose your faith. We choose by our actions, if we make it into Heaven or not. No I will not be crying, beacause He DOES in fact exist. there is no "if not".
JoshezDodge 3 years ago
I didn't want to choose to lose my faith. It wasn't a A) keep my faith or B) lose my faith kind of a decision. It just happened. I thought that the third aspect of the TRINITY was supposed to 'guide' me with my faith. This, unfortunately, did not happen as I thought it would.
How do you know for a fact that he does exist? Have you seen him? (If you see him in the near future... have a camcorder handy.)
IWantToBelieve2887 3 years ago
I was able to say that I would cry if at the end he is there and that I was wrong... Why can't you?
IWantToBelieve2887 3 years ago
Honestly man... I don't believe "God" is a he... there is a lot missing because of idiotic "conquorers" who burned, melted, and destroyed all influencial, ancient, foreign, and religious texts because of their ignorance... but God is an amazing concept and to me everything has to start and come from somewhere...
charles54l 3 years ago
I am trying to help you here. It's a test of faith. If you believe with your heart you will understand. Also don't go with what the rest of the world deems as okay. We are supposed to follow the will of God, not the way of the world. If someone one deems you as cooky, don't worry about what they think of you. As long as God knows your heart is true to Him that is all that matters. It is based on faith in the Lord and good will. You will understand when you begin to believe.
JoshezDodge 3 years ago
You still didn't answer my question...
IWantToBelieve2887 3 years ago
Who else is there to blame for a loss of faith, other than God, Joshez? The definition of God makes it his fault.
If he is all powerful, and all knowing, then he would know the questions IWantToBelieve would have before he even had them.
It even says so in scripture.
So, if God knowing this, still refused to show himself or in the very least, show some physical evidence of his own existence, how can it be considered Believe's fault?
Infectedwithtruth 3 years ago 5
He does know before hand. He gives us free will so we deal with it in our on way. Life wouldn't be a challenge if WE always knew the answer or outcome before hand. You go with what you really believe is the right thing to do. Then in the end you will be judged. P.S. What is the scripture you speak of?
JoshezDodge 3 years ago
*own way*
JoshezDodge 3 years ago
if i actually had a chance to tell god i do not wish to be born into this world in the first place , rather than being borne then having a free will , only to realise that the only free will i wanted and needed was for jesus christ to prevent my birth into this world.
kisekiz 2 years ago
1)Technically you are just asking questions, not being judgemental.
The Bible contradicts itself literally hunreds fo times on many different issues.
2)Because God is, and always was imaginary. All evidence supports this conclusion.
3)You can disprove God the same way you can disprove a Leprachaun or Fairy. Nothing is known with absolute certainty, but if there is ZERO evidence for something's existence (esp with modern science) it is very safe and logical to assume it doesn't exist.
buffdaddy3144 3 years ago 2
buffdaddy, I agree with your first remark. Yes the bible does have flaws... just like anything man made/written especially when regarding how one should live. It's obvious that we/humans are by no means perfect, and in no way could understand something perfect if handed to us (ten commandments..).
But in my opinion "God" wouldn't be "God" if we knew exactly what all he/she/it (God) is... that would completely discount Faith as a must have when concerning "God".
charles54l 3 years ago
And your third comment is absurd. Regarding "God" in the same context as a fairy... I mean really. Right now archeology has more to prove a "God" theory than evolution (no missing link.. and there isn't one)... and scientists are on the verge of proving the "God" matter which connects everything together... the base of every particle.
Now I'm not saying that the only way 2 believe in God is through christianity... I have a very open mind when it comes to this subject.
charles54l 3 years ago
However; christianity is the first way that God proved his existence TO ME... I experienced something that can only be regarded as supernatural, and I have to stand beside Christianity because of that reason...
even though the first roman catholic church, the crusades, all the hipocratical popes and leaders, and the nice men who pulled from the original texts what is now the Holy Bible are manipulative and ultimately full of shit I do not agree with.
Hopefully this helps wanttobelieve.
charles54l 3 years ago
**I experienced something that can only be regarded as supernatural, and I have to stand beside Christianity because of that reason...**
How "skeptical" of you.
**Christianity because of that reason...nice men who pulled from the original texts what is now the Holy Bible are manipulative and ultimately full of shit I do not agree with.**
Ummm, with no Bible, there is no Christianity. Who do you think pot the Stores of the Bible together? Hindus?
buffdaddy3144 3 years ago
*How skeptical of you.
-Of course, c the skepticism stopped once I experienced what I did... everyone is skeptical before they believe, or I was anyway, but that is how I think until something is proved to me, I will always be a little skeptical.
But my faith now is based upon more than just the "bible"... and if you haven't gathered, I'm not your conventional christian. There are a many similarities between christianity and other predominate religions... I find it very intriguing
charles54l 3 years ago
And buffdaddy, I was in no way trying to degrade or disprove your thoughts on the subject... I have an open mind and like hearing other people's points of view... I am a complex and somewhat of an intelligent person, so do me a favor and don't jump to conclusions or be judgemental about what is written here, words can only express so much of your thoughts when regarding this subject...
charles54l 3 years ago
"There are a many similarities between christianity and other predominate religions..."
ya, they are MAN-MADE orginizations that try to convince people that their invisible pink unicorn is the prettiest.
Also, Xianity and Islam are both Abrahamic religions and they are predominate b/c they spent 1400 years wiping out the competition, destroying temples and literally torturing people who questioned their dogmas.
buffdaddy3144 3 years ago 2
Name one piece of physical evidence for a god of anykind.
That "missing link" you are talking about has been dicredited since the 19th century. There hasn't been a "missing link" in human evolution since the 30's.
Evolution is a fact and anyone who tells you different is stupid or lying.
buffdaddy3144 3 years ago
I believe evolution is a fact... don't get me wrong, but "I" personally believe there is a step in the evolutionary chain that is very blurry and can't, at the moment, be explained.... the missing link I was referring to isn't a half man/half ape, but the blurry "not proven" area in the link between humanity and primates... and if you say there isn't you are lying
charles54l 3 years ago
ummm, google "human evolution".
The problem isn't FINDING fossils to link us to apes (we are apes by classification, hominid) the problem that there are SO MANY that scientists are having a hard time sorting out which speices are our direct ancestors, and which are evolutionary dead ends.
buffdaddy3144 3 years ago 3
1. the 10 commandments are stolen outright from Spell 125 of the Eqyptian book of the Dead.
2. They aren't perfect. The "coveting" BS insinuates thought crimes which is ridiculously totalitarian.
Also Yahweh wants everyone to do away with other gods? How much war has that caused?
buffdaddy3144 3 years ago