there is no doubt that SOULIOTES are albanians. their names BoCari and Xhavella are in albanian and still have a meaning... For ex; Xhavella-derives from xhan(dear)Vella(brother).
Ο Μελί πασάς, γιος του Αλή πασά, έστειλε επιστολές στον πατέρα του από τον Απρίλιο μέχρι τον Δεκέμβριο του 1803, στις οποίες αποκαλεί τους Σουλιώτες Ρωμαίους, ή Ρωμιούς Όλοι αυτοί οι όροι δηλώνουν ότι η σουλιωτική συνομοσπονδία αποτελούταν από Έλληνες.
χαχαχα οι αλβανοι τρωνε πολυ κουτοχορτο αν νομιζουν οτι εχουν σχεση με τους ηρωες του 21 ειδαμε και ποσο γνησιοι απογονοι των ιλλυριων ειναι οι αλβανοι χαχαχα απ τον καυκασο προερχεστε γιδια
Στο Σουλι που τωρα γυρναει ο κολοχοντρος μαγειρας και κανει την πληρωμενη προπαγανδα του ετσι και σε επιαναν να λες μαλακιες για την γυναικα του αλλου σε κρεμαγαν στην πλατεια σαν τομαρι.κανονισε μαμαμαλακη τα αγεια χωματα που πατας μη λες αλλες κουβεντες.
μα τι λεει το γιδι?Οι σελλοι δεν παιζουν ρολο?ειναι τυχαιο το ονομα σελλοι και το σουλι?Οι σελλοι ειναι οι ποιο αρχαιοι ιερεις του Δια στη δωδωνη.Εν τω μεταξυ στο σουλι εχει βρεθει το ποιο αρχαιο αγαλμα της αρτεμης ισως απο τα ποιο αρχαια αγαλματα σε ολη την ελλαδα.μας εχουν τρελλανει στην παπαρολογια.καλα να μην μιλησω για την αλβανικη παπαρολογια.Ας διαβασουν τα αλβανικα κυβερνητικα πρακτικα απο το 1200 και μετα και θα καταλαβουν τη πεος τρωγαν παντα απο τους ανυποτακτους ελληνες σουλιωτες
I am an Arvanit from my moms side and i tell this...Fuck u Albanian fascists... Arvanites are part of Greek historic fabrication for over 700 years we don't need anybodys patronisation especially in OUR OWN country Greece...We are proud for our ancesstors who liberated Greece..Besides not only Arvanites gave their lives in this cause but the rest of the Greeks also...Arvanites made Albanians their bitches and we still do...
@Jeffanos I feel sorry for your naive way of thinking. I don't know how that part of arvaniti blood is not boiling for that what are u saying, or maybe there's no more arvaniti traces in your blood, 'cause only one who is not of arvaniti's descendant can say something like this.Arvanities negating their albanian heritage is like they negate their own existence.
@Jeffanos ahaha u r not an arvanite, the arvanites i have met they think it differently. and bythe way should you b an arvanite youd be able to understand and speak arvanitika/ albanian and understand that all in bocari and xhavella is in albanian. as i mentioned earlier, XHAVELLA means dear brother (Xhan+Vella). but since ur not u cant know cos besides being a scared person ur uneducated
@SuperAribu Whatever shepard now go catch up with your ship...I'm tired of addresing Albanians u r the most stupid and fanatic people on earth cause u r nothing more than shepards and construction workers now go back to work and leave the evolved things such as internet to more evolved persons....
@Jeffanos listen, the only way u have to protect yourself is to offend? You r the image of what is Greece today. A bunch of uneducated racist ppl like yourself. The minimum you should do is to thank us Albanians for all this(Yes I am one and Proud to be although I have orthodox origins). As a matter of fact dear ignorant I live in France hold 2 degrees, speak fluently 6 languages, earn 6000 eur/month and pay tax so that the EU can feed you. so pls be more respectful.
@SuperAribu Of course my friend and i work for NASA it's really tough and i will be respectfull to you and your "glorious" nation...Anyway don't waste my time shepard i have enough worries about my studies and arguing with an Albanian doesn't help me at all....
@Jeffanos well its true i cant prove you but I really do. Je px te la faire en français pour que t'y crois? it shows at least that i speak french. Im into trading (i have a masters in applied mathematics) and studing history. So my base salary + bonus is not far from 5000-6000 depending on the year... Umm yet i cant prove you but most of the albanians are like me... Te lo giuro. eh si parlo anche italiano, vedi??? I have nothing against greece. Just against injustice. Good luck with the studying
@Jeffanos wtf.... you working for NASA!!!....LMAO..... if you did that then you would have better knowledge and understanding about your own past 'cause NASA don't accept every ignorant among their midst....
@yllbardh Pff as i said Albanians are so stupid and uneducated that they cannot recognise the concept of sarcasm when they see it...Now leave me alone i have better things to do u know like studying...
Hajdut Historie po keta Greket por ne shqiptaret bejme gabimin me te madhe kur nr i lejojme Greket te na Vjedhin Kulturen.Kur Kultura vidhet o shoke edhe historia zbulohet mbi fakte te paverteta.Kjo me ka ndodhur mua ne nje Muze ne perendim ku nje nga ata docentet aty thoshin se muzika antike kendihet ne Greqine veriore.Derisa une nderhyva dhe irhashe se engaterroni me muziken Shipe.ky eshte problemi
o greke rrace jevgjish te ardhur nga egjipti o hajdute historie dhe heronjsh shqiptare
o popull pederast pa gjak dhe pa flamur prisni se se shpejti cdo gje do te shkoje ne vend te vet fuuuuuuuuuck you dirty people fuuuuuuuuuck serbian tooooo
oute oi idioi den xeran ti itan 'oute kai kaneis allos mporei na pei me sigouria.dilonan ellines otan tous simfere kai otan den listeuan ta xoria pou eixan stin ipotelia tous'gia na plionoun tos forous tous .mia apo do mia apo ekei.sto telos fagotikan apo esoterikes diamaxes pou eixan oi fares metaxi tous /mpotsaris .tzavelas/ oi souliotes einai arvanites..
all wars are fought, orthdox albanians fought with greeks against, muslim souliote albanians wich where with the turks.. albanians against albanians. no greeks there
@Axeldevil eisai kai koutos..na mas peis tin diki sou ratsa poia einai;;ounos ;;tataromogkolos;apo ton kaukaso;tourkos;slavos ;fragkos;italos;toskides;gkekides;tsamides;tourkalvanos;;ellinas; servos;arvanitis;
to na grafeis antikimenika gia tin Istoria den paei na pei oti ta exw valei me tous Neoellines.. eksallou to Ntokimanter einai tou Kratikou Kanaliou ET3 ... ta parapona sou sto ET3...
@Axeldevil to ET3 to grafo sta arxidia mou ta ntokimanter auta ftiaxnontai se 1 ora gia skopous emporikous exete provlima kai vlepete oneira me anoixta matia .oi souliotes afanistikane sta pedia tis maxis gia tin ellada ''mesologgi 1823''kefalovriso 9 augoustou 1823''amplianis 1824''mesologgi 1826''distomo 1827''''DEN EMEINE KANEIS''KAI TOUS TIMITIKES ESY PALIOMALAKA TO 2010 NA MAS PEIS OTI ITAN ALVANOI
to dokimanter den einai 1oras paragogis... apla den sou aresei i alithia...
Kapioi souliotes glitosan ... mexri kai simera exei stin albania souliotes pou kratane apo tous tzavelleous , exoun erthei Albania apo to 1823... den theoroun tous eautous tous ellines , oute oi neoellines tous theoroune meionotikous... mias kai einai katharoi albanoi opos oi Suliotes sto Suli.
@Axeldevil APO POU EINAI ALVANOGENIS ; GIA APODEIXE TO;;YPARXEI ALVANIKO FYLO;;APO POTE;; MIA PARTOUZA MIPOS;;;ALMPOUS ;;LATINIKO ;LEUKOS...STIN ATTIKI SAS FERAN OI KATALANOI KAI PIO PRIN MILAGAN ELLINIKA KAI FRAGKIKA KAI LOIPON;;SAS FTAXAN GLOSSA OI ITALOI TO 1900 ATELIS GLOSA XORIS MATIMATIKA XOPIS DOMI 10 GLOSES MAZI KAI LES GIA KIRIARXI GLOSA;;TSIMPOURIA POU PINOUN AIMA EKI KATALIGO ISTORIKA EXETE PAREI AUTO TON ROLO TO 1913 GEINATE KRATOS
@Axeldevil kala ta les etsi o omoaimos mou itan o megaliteros igetis pou sas ekprosopise pote katos kai oles tis alles mionotites pou itan ypotageis stin vyzantinoi aytokratoria to leei epano oi sfragida tou sta ellinika pateras ellinas mana serva kai einai alvanos;;;aima elliniko na eisai perifanos apogonos tou axilea tou alexandrou tou sokrati ean den exeis kapoion na eisai perifanos na dexteis oti eiste palasgoi kai oti eiste suggenes fulo meta lipis mou to leo me tous ellines alios xexna to
@Axeldevil eseis kai oi tourkoi trote apo to idio trapezi eiste symaxoi eisastan tsirakia tous exete idia onomata eiste mousoulmanoi glosa kai emeis eimaste omoaimoi;kai oxi eseis;o kastriotis sas eftiaxe kai tin simaia apo vyzantina sumvola'an eisai syggenis me tous arxaious ellines einai kalo mravo agori mou exo ena alvano filo ton lene afrim les na einai ellinas oi tourkosporos; yparxei sfragida tou kastroiti to 1460 sta alvanika;afou sas ftiaxan glosa to 1900 ;;
1)To oti exoun mouslimanika onomata den tha pei oti eimaste Turkoi ... dld autoi p exoun xristianika onomata einai ti ratsas dld?
2)Misthoforoi oi alvanoi exoun iparksei oxi mono ton Tourkon alla kai ton evropaion.
Sou ipenthimizw stradiotes..
3)Oi Byzantinoi den itan Ellines... apo olous tous autokratores kanenas den itan ellinikis katagogis... oi perissoteroi Armenioi kai Illyriois opos o M Konstantinos.
4)Omoaimoi iste giati sas stilane tous tukrus xristianus me tin antalagi.
Το τι ηταν οι βυζαντινοι δεν θα το πεις εσυ, ειδικα οταν το ρωμιοι μας το λες κοροιδευτικα. Και οταν το δικο σου κρατος το ιδρυσαν οι ιταλοι απο συμφερον. Βαλτο καλα στην κλαβα σου Ελληνοφωνοι ορθοδοξοι=Βυζαντινοι.
Τραβα τωρα να πουλησεις ναρκωτικα αλβανε. ΟΧΙ εδω ομως.
katarxin psakse ligo tis rizes sou giati san Neoellinas den exeis kamia sxesi me ton arxaio Ellhna... kai ase ton Kastrioti pou thelete na ton vgalete kai Neoellina ... dld ELEOS..
Oi gidovoskoi KLEFTES pou tous vrizeis enantiothikan stous Tourkous ... giati ama itan sto xeri tis adinamis kai fovitsiarikis ratsas sas , tha milouses simera tourkika..
@Axeldevil eimai souliotis ellinas telos''kastriotis georgios ellinas''pateras ioannis''mitera voisava serva''to 1968 vgalate stin alvania gramatosimo me to onoma tou kai meta to alaxate se skerntempei to tourkiko onoma pou tou eixan dosei''sas voleuei to tourkiko''oi sfragida tou pou exei sotei einai sta ellinika me to sosto onoma'ton polemisate sklira kai meta ton kanate iroa''OTAN LEO GIDOVOSKOI KAI KLEFTES DEN EKFRAZO TIN GNOMI MOU''ISTORIKA ANAFEROME''TA PARAPONA STO ET3
Den kaname tsimpoukia stous tourkous ... kati pou to kanane oi Pappades sas edw kai kati xronia. opos kai eseis stous alvanous passades.
MACEDONIA: ITS RACES AND THEIR FUTURE.
by H. N. Brailsford (Methuen & Co., London, 1906)
Both the Suliotes and Hydriotes were Albanians in blood, language, and customs.
They were “Greeks” only in the sense that the Vlachs are “Greeks” — they belonged to the Orthodox Church, and if any of them possessed any culture at all, it was Greek culture
@Axeldevil GIUSEPPE PECCIO'''italos komis sunodos tou agglikou daneiou tis elladas''se erotisi pou kanei sto kostantino mpotsari..''o tanatos tou adelfou sou doxazei tin ellada''mpotsaris''to mono pou epitimoun oi ellines einai enas tanatos san auton'''''ton xeretaei filontaston sto stoma..entiposi kanei ston italo oti eixan makria malia ektos apo to metopo kai ton krotafo tous pou ta koureuan epitides.ola auta kratoun apo etima arxaia ellinika pou oi souliotes katos kai oloi i ellines eixan
autou tou eidous to kourema to kanane MONO oi albanoi... kai sinithos to kanane oi tsamides... Des enan pinaka pou apeikonizei ton Ali pasha stin limni Bouthrotou apo ton Louis Dupre ... ekei tha deis tous albanous ta protopalikara tou pou kanoun koupi... kai einai ksirismenoi me to xaraktiristiko ALVANIKO tropo
@Axeldevil ahaha to kanate kai eseis;;iliada exeis diavasei exei kapoia stoixia gia tis paradoseis aytes tis ellinikes'''''kai einai kapou 2500 xronia prin to pinaka tou louis''kai alla tosa prin eseis arxizete na exete grapto logo eiste to teleteuo kratos ston kosmo kai prin apo esas einai oi tixoua pou tous anakalipsan ston amazonio prin 15 xronia'' ala akoma kai aytoi grafan''mi les gia tous italous giati enas alvanoitalos sas eftiaxe glosa prin apo liga xronia
na lete pali kala pou itan oi ellines sklavoi kai oi alvanoi skotonan kai gamagane sto foul kai etsi yparxei kai enas logos kai tous anaferoun oi istoriki kai i istoria ;;; eno simera den exoun sxesi me tous progonous tous ...simera einai antropoi tis texnis kai ton gramaton kai poso moiazan me tous souliotes ..ideologoi more ''eleteuria oi tanatos''
Ego "antrope" mou mias kai to TH den to xrisimopoiis den exw grapsei kati ... auto to video einai parmeno apo to dokimanter tou ET3 .... Ean esi eisai kaliteros gnostis (pragma pou amfivalo) kane ena video sto opoio tha mas parousiaseis me stixia to poso Romioi(giati ellinas einai neos oros ) itan oi Suliotes...
Katarxin gia na katalaveis ti egine me tous omoaimous tous Suliotes , arkei na koitakseis stin maxi tou Granikou tous misthoforous Ellines , oi opioi itan xiliades kai pigan me tous Perses enantion tou Alexandrou...
@Axeldevil 'telika einai sexoualiko to pvovlima sou'oi alvani einai mamelouki.tourkoi.mogkoloi.k.t.l.oi arvanites einai ellines ipirotes pou tous dioxate meta ton tanato tou kastrioti tzavelas kai aloi.ellines kai arvanites milagan tourkika kai alvanika ti einai tourkoi;i alvanoi;to misos ton arvaniton gia sas den sou leei tipota;;me to zori na alaxeis ta gegonota ;an to 21 esena se eixan mposta tous ta sou kovan ti miti sou,kai tin mpamia sou i arkades oi krites oi tesaloi oi makedones ti einai
@Axeldevil eisai asteios stin arxi ala meta xefeugeis asxima'oi alvanoi gkekides oi tourkomoggoloi mousoumalmanoi den milagan tourkika;;oi arvanites me tous alvanous sfazontousan apo agapi ;;kai oxi apo misos;;epi ton tassalon niki 340 p.x.kai ftiaxneta apo ton alexandro oi tesalloniki gia tin maxi kai tin niki tou.tous evraious tous ferane oi en meri apo tous pollous alous progonoi sou oi tourkoi to 1492 kai loipon;to 1908 me tin epanastsi ton neotourkon tous xanadioxane kai loipon;
Oi gkegkides den milagane turkika pote ... malista poly itan kai Katholikoi , opos oi Mirdites pou tous eixe stin doulepsi tou o Ali Pashas os Misthoforous..
Prin sinexiseis gia tous arvanites ... anoikse ena etimologiko leksiko ...kai des ekei kai ksestravosou pou leei ARVANITIS = KATIKOS ALVANIAS , ELLINAS ALBANIKIS KATAGOGIS.
Oi Evreoi anistorite irthan apo tin Ispania , otan tous edioksan to meseona.
@Axeldevil o megalos ellinas kai vlaxos ''phgas ferraios''os pote palikaria ta zoume sta stena monaxoi san liontaria stis raxes sta vouna'' auta sou ta leei o rigas rotise ton ti einai ta sou pei kalitera o idios einai vlaxos opos '''' kai oi souliotes me tis praxeis tous ''''''ola ta ala einai sxolia dika sou kai apo prosopikes sou fantasiosis kai emones na litrosis tin fara sou me andragatimata pou einai agnosta stin fara sou ''kouptove mic;
@Axeldevil ''trelopoutano eisai to xereis;;esy se kate kouventa pou kaneis prepei sto telos na sou travane kai 2 fapes giati to travaei o kolos sou''sou egrapsa ti elege o idios o kostas mpotsaris ala esy ta dika sou outsekades ta tous kaneis se ligo..vrika se kati xartes mia perioxi anamesa stin tsetsenia kai to azerpaitzan to lene alvania ''''xereis kati gia ayto file mamelouke;;
Δεν μπορω να καταλαβω ρ ανυπαρκτε τι κοροιδευεις. Ρωμιοι λεγομασταν γιατι ειμασταν οι Βυζαντινοι. Στην μικρα ασια απο την αρχαιοτητα υπηρχαν ελληνες. Αρκετοι Οθωμανοι ηταν βυζαντινοι, οι σελτζουκοι ηταν μογγολοι. Υπαρχει μια συνεχεια στην ιστορια μας ρε, Ο πυρηνας του βυζαντιου η Το ορθοδοξο πατριαρχειο ανεκαθεν ηταν ελληνικο και επι τουρκοκρατιας και τωρα. Επισης οι βορειοηπειρωτες ειναι ελληνες και βαλτο καλα στο μυαλο σου, στον β παγκοσμιο φασιστες, οταν μπηκαμε μεσα πανηγυριζαν.
Ο Περαιβός ήταν Παργινός. Γνώριζε καλά ποιοι ήταν στο Σούλι και το γραφει. Εσύ όμως δεν το ομολογης. Οι πρώτοι κάτοικοι του Σουλίου ήταν Γαρδικιωτες, και αφού το Γαρδίκη τούρκεψε οι μισοί κάτοικοι έφυγαν και πήγαν στο Σούλι για να μην ζουν μαζί με τους αλαξοπιστησμενους. Το ιδιο γραφει και ο Ανδρεας Ιδρωμενος και αυτος Παργηνος.
@keesog god bless u man, i've been tring to say to many people this but they see me like I'm an UFO. Not only that the intersting part is that this is not just a common dicitionary it is a military dicitionary, since all the marine of greece in that time used to speak only albanian, so they had to give orders to the other soldiers.
@hellasnet2000 ... malaka bankrupt failed state patrioti... now your power is gone... poof!!! no more empty churches and propaganda in southern albania, no more bullshit with the name of Macedonia... German and French banks will never let your Ministry of Interior waste their money that way... ha ha... welcome to the new world order monoutriche... you clowns overplayed your hand... suggestion: why don't you join with Servia and become a LARGE FAILED STATE or moral degenerates...
Suliotet jane shqiptare! dhe nuk erdhen ne Sul per tu strehuar apo se ishin zbuar nga Shqiptaret..
O Shqiptare te mire mos u besoni ketij dokumentari. eshte shprehje e nje mashtrim shekullor! Suljotet luftuan per te drejtat e tyre kunder otomaneve, mbas luftes nisen vrasjet barbare nga ana e grekeve dhe pjesen e mbetur e quajne greke dhe jo shqiptare.
egw ena 3erw paidia agapw thn gh mou afth k auth pou 8a parw PISW h monoss h me ollh thn ellada.. egw thn mikra asia 8a thn parw to PALIO mou spiti t 8elw pisw gt eida pws t katadhsan k autoi oi morfasmoi pou len oti o alloc htan alvanoss k tetoia egw dn t pisteuww... k o megass ale3andros lene oi mpastardoi oi skopiaoi oti einai dikos tous emeis 8a tous piste4oume??? e???? egw ton ponto ton 8elw pisw. pisteuw cta kokkala twn progonwn mou
You gay greek make me with nephew?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are greek and the gruks are all gay.
You are geneticaly all gay-s, so go to the corner of the street(Fari) damned bitch,because there you can find your dad,your mum,your fother,your brother,your sister's.You know: The greeks are known in the world for two things: 1- GAY-s and 2- TRAITOR-s
The second one you can't do any more, besause the world know you, so you can do better the first.Meant to say SUPER GAY
suliote are pure albanian blood....bot they like to be greks so fuck they all....they was strong with turks bot with other albanian when they fight just luse....
απο τις ονομασιες των τοπονυμιων καταλαβαινει κανεις τι΄ηταν αυτοι που ηταν καποτε στο σουλι...κιαφα π.χ επιπλεον οταν λεει οτι ο μποτσαρης εμαθε ελληνικα στα 20χρ. τοτε καταλαβαινει κανεις οτι μονο ελληνικα δεν ηταν η μητρικη τους γλωσσα...
Η ιστορία η πραγματική είναι αυτή που λέει ο παππούς στο τζάκι για να μεταφέρει στην επόμενη γενιά τις ρίζες της!!εσείς δεν έχετε τέτοιες μαρτυρίες,εμείς όμως έχουμε χιλιάδες, όσες ψυχές είναι ακόμα ζωντανές Σουλιώτικες. . .
και εγώ έχω ρίζες σουλιώτικες αλλά δεν είμαι αλβανός μαλάκες!!Όσο καλά και να έχεις διαβάσει,τα γεγονότα δεν αλλάζουν.Σίγουρα υπήρχαν και αρβανίτικες φάρες ομως μικρές σε ιεραρχία.Αν όλοι οι Σουλιώτες είμασταν αλβανοί δεν θα είχαμε ελληνικά ονόματα.
Δηλ τα ονόματα παππάς,κουτσονίκας,τόκας,δράκος κτλ θα μου πεις ότι είναι κ αυτά αλβανικά??επειδή είμαι από του μπότσαρη,θα σου πω ότι στο και στο σόι μας μας λένε να βροντοφωνάζουμε ότι είμαστε ΈΛΛΗΝΕΣ
δεν θα κάτσω να σου μάθω ελληνική ιστορία γιατί σαν αλβανός που είσαι θα την απορρίψεις!!Δεν έχετε καμιά σχέση ούτε με Σούλι αλλά ούτε και με Ελλάδα!!
pes ta re file...!!!twra prospathoun mexri k oi alvanoi na mas mathoun tn istoria mas... Koita re pou katantisame!!! k milaw gia alvanous tous opoious emeis ts prosexoume k tous taizoume!!!!!Krima...
ante kala.... ean den eisastan eseis tha eixame pe8anei!!!! sas euxaristoume Zitw i alvania.... ante pare dromo k pane stn patrida s re blakako pou tha mas peis k tetoies mlks!!!! emeis fteme re pou sas kalodextikame apo tn zougla..... MOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
autes tis blakeies pou les tis skeutese i s bgainoun authormita?? dn kathomai n asxolithw allo mazi s !!!! Euxarisoume pou mas swsate gia alli 1 fora ean dn upirxate eseis tha eixame pe8anei apo tn peina..!! re oust apo edw lew egw!!!!bb
Adriano edho .Baso D.psimouli dhulevi sta Gjenika Arxia tou ethnous kai kseri ta panta. exei kani to vivlio Souli kai Souliotes apo ekdhosis estia .Souliotes itan Alvanoi , oxi arvanites
History is history and cannot be distorted or denied. The speaker here says it clearly: Some say they were albanians (christian orthodox ) but they fought for their freedom and the freedom of those lands around here at a time there was no Greece (and no Albania). So their cause is Universal: they fought that they live as free people and a free life from turkish occupiers and from tyrants like Ali Pasha. This is the truth. They are freedom fighters and send a clear message for everyone today.
These are all time wasting arguments! No one will win at these racial motivated talks, you will only plague your heart with hate, so therefore lets all put our hatred aside and greet one another with open arms.
Albanian is a foreign word to describe the Albanian people of the Balkans. The inhabitants of the place first called themselves Ilirian which means "to be free" in Shqip. Then over the ages the Ilirian word was forgoten only to be placed by Arberia, name of short lived country during the middle ages but the people always called themselves Shqipetare.
Therefore the Albania in Scotland and Caucasus has nothing to do with present Albania, the people don't call themselves Albanians but Shqipetar
arvanites came from a city north ... named Arvon ... what they have to do with albanians? albanians were in caucasus.... after they imigrate them ... they came in illyria and epirus... look at those clowns.... they claim Greek warriors the arvanites Souliotes... they confused the greeks of Arvon with with asians Albanians... shame
@Epicomahos You should be a stand up comedian :o) Not only funny but you are hilarious, pure talent. :o)
What was it again? Hahahahahahahaha Arberor (Arvanites) are Greek? And they just happen to speak Albanian and wear Albanian dress and rule themselves with Albanian kanun? Wait, wait, it gets really funny now; even though Albanians came from Caucasus and had no contact with them?!!!
greeks are funny people you dont have nothing no culture no music, nothing ugly black bastards , we albanians, are the oldest nation here in europe your just a peas of nationalist shit.
Axeldevil te pershendes per kete dokumentar dh replikat qe ben me greket!! njerez si puna jote i duhen Shqipris ton te dashur!!! vashdo keshtu dhe njeher bravo!!!!
Μεγα ιστορικε,μπορεις να αναφερεις σε ποιο ιστορικο γεγονος αναφερεται αυτο το τετραστιχο,ποιοι ειναι οι ραγιαδες και ποιοι οι αρβανιταδες???Καλο το βιβλιο του Λαμπρυνιδη?
Θ Κολοκοτρώνης στα «απομνημονεύματα» : «Εις τον πατέρα μου έστειλε χωριστό μπουγιουρτί : έλθετε να βγάλουμε τους Αρβανίτες και να εύρει ο ραγιάς το δίκιο του. Ο πατέρας μου εκίνησε με χιλίους στρατιώτες και έπιασε τα τρόκορφα...
Το αλλο το μπουγιουρτι το εστειλε στον Πλαπουτα...Αρβανιτης κι αυτος αλλα ραγιας...Επομενως ο ορος αρβανιταδες αναφερεται στους αλβανους μισθοφορους που κατεβηκαν μετα τα ορλωφικα και οχι σε ντοπιους χριστιανους αλβανοφωνους.Γνωστα πραγματα
Διαβασε με ποιον τροπο προσπαθησαν οι τουρκοι να καταπνιξουν την επανασταση στην πελοποννησο στα ορλωφικα και μετα να δουμε αν θα γελας.Πολυ απλα εφεραν Αλβανους απο βορρα για να κανουν τη δουλεια
Μην υπεκφευγεις.Εδω μας λες οτι οι τουρκοι συμμαχησαν με τους Ελληνες εναντιον των Αρβανιτων(οπως τους εννοουμε εμεις) ενω η αληθεια ειναι οτι οι ραγιαδες συμμαχησαν με τους Τουρκους εναντιον των Αλβανων ατακτων που ηλθαν επι τουτου στην πελοποννησο μετα τα ορλωφικα
Και μπορει ο,τι δεν σε συμφερει να το αποκαλεις μπουρδολογια αλλααν αρβανιτης=αλβανος τοτε οι αρβανιτες της πελοποννησου θα υποδεχονταν τους ατακτους ως απελευθερωτες,δε θα συμμαχουσαν με τους αλλους ραγιαδες και τους τουρκους.
Ti exei na kanei me poia meria eisai ston polemo ?
Allo katagwgh kai allo me poianou to meros eisai se enan polemo
Dld oi Ellines Misthoforoi pou paratathikan sto persiko strato enantion tou M.Aleksandrou... giati den ipodextikan ton M.Aleksandro os apeleftheroti ?
Δεν εχει να κανει μοναχα μ'εναν πολεμο αλλα με μια μακραιωνη διαδικασια εθνογενεσης κι εθνικης ενταξης που παραβλεπεις σκοπιμα.Οσο για την απωτερη καταγωγη του καθενος,τρεχα γυρευε
Μαλλον οι Ελληνες αναγκασαν τους Αρβανιτες να μαθουν τα Ελληνικα,οι παπαδες, τους ελεγαν οτι δεν τους καταλαβενει ο θεος στα Αλβανικα ,γ'αυτο πρεπει να ομιλουν στα Ελληνικα.Στην Σαλαμινα ειπαρχουν Αρβανιτες που μιλανε μονο Αλβανικα,ενω ειμαστε ελεφθεροι πλεον...mikegrecia
Ρε εθνικοΕλληνες ακουστε τι λεει η ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ ΚΡΑΤΙΚΗ ΤΗΛΕΟΡΑΣΗ 3 και μην γραφεται τιποτα, γιατι δεν σας συμφερη.ΜΟΝΟΙ ΣΑΣ ΤΑ ΛΕΤΕ ΚΑΙ ΜΟΝΟΙ ΣΑΣ ΤΑ ΑΜΦΥΣΒΗΤΕΙΤΕ!!!!!! ειπαρχουν και Αρβανιτες που ομωλογουν την Αλβανικη τους καταγωγη ... πως να το κανουμε?
epo, kurr thot edhe greku qe suli jan shqiptar.. shyqyr qe e moren vesh keta...
bootystuffer 1 month ago
thier villages are in albanian as well. for ex: qafa-neck
SuperAribu 3 months ago
there is no doubt that SOULIOTES are albanians. their names BoCari and Xhavella are in albanian and still have a meaning... For ex; Xhavella-derives from xhan(dear)Vella(brother).
SuperAribu 3 months ago
We gave you Bocari, Xhavella, Bubulina,Miaulis.
You still haven't said THANK YOU.
dopamine83 4 months ago
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Makedonia was never Greece
Viva la Makedonia 4 all Makedonians and never 4 Greece
Devoj4E 4 months ago
1970 lindi marko bocari 06:23 se mos esht ala emigrant ne greqi i shkreti dhe pa letra :)
oRxAxFo 5 months ago
Ο Μελί πασάς, γιος του Αλή πασά, έστειλε επιστολές στον πατέρα του από τον Απρίλιο μέχρι τον Δεκέμβριο του 1803, στις οποίες αποκαλεί τους Σουλιώτες Ρωμαίους, ή Ρωμιούς Όλοι αυτοί οι όροι δηλώνουν ότι η σουλιωτική συνομοσπονδία αποτελούταν από Έλληνες.
stefn82 7 months ago
@stefn82
Katarxin Meli Pasha den iparxei.... enoeis ton "VELI"......kai 2ron diavase ti esti to RUM MILLET.....
Axeldevil 7 months ago
χαχαχα οι αλβανοι τρωνε πολυ κουτοχορτο αν νομιζουν οτι εχουν σχεση με τους ηρωες του 21 ειδαμε και ποσο γνησιοι απογονοι των ιλλυριων ειναι οι αλβανοι χαχαχα απ τον καυκασο προερχεστε γιδια
xristodoiiaspis 7 months ago
Στο Σουλι που τωρα γυρναει ο κολοχοντρος μαγειρας και κανει την πληρωμενη προπαγανδα του ετσι και σε επιαναν να λες μαλακιες για την γυναικα του αλλου σε κρεμαγαν στην πλατεια σαν τομαρι.κανονισε μαμαμαλακη τα αγεια χωματα που πατας μη λες αλλες κουβεντες.
masterpiecerecs 8 months ago
μα τι λεει το γιδι?Οι σελλοι δεν παιζουν ρολο?ειναι τυχαιο το ονομα σελλοι και το σουλι?Οι σελλοι ειναι οι ποιο αρχαιοι ιερεις του Δια στη δωδωνη.Εν τω μεταξυ στο σουλι εχει βρεθει το ποιο αρχαιο αγαλμα της αρτεμης ισως απο τα ποιο αρχαια αγαλματα σε ολη την ελλαδα.μας εχουν τρελλανει στην παπαρολογια.καλα να μην μιλησω για την αλβανικη παπαρολογια.Ας διαβασουν τα αλβανικα κυβερνητικα πρακτικα απο το 1200 και μετα και θα καταλαβουν τη πεος τρωγαν παντα απο τους ανυποτακτους ελληνες σουλιωτες
masterpiecerecs 8 months ago
@masterpiecerecs
Ellines souliotes? aaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaha... ore gelia....
Axeldevil 7 months ago
@masterpiecerecs APLA TOUS GAIMSES OLOUS ME AFTO!!! KAI GO MAZI SOU ADERFE!
pantoflas34 2 months ago
long live albania
MrLadrocuori 8 months ago
I am an Arvanit from my moms side and i tell this...Fuck u Albanian fascists... Arvanites are part of Greek historic fabrication for over 700 years we don't need anybodys patronisation especially in OUR OWN country Greece...We are proud for our ancesstors who liberated Greece..Besides not only Arvanites gave their lives in this cause but the rest of the Greeks also...Arvanites made Albanians their bitches and we still do...
Jeffanos 9 months ago
@Jeffanos I feel sorry for your naive way of thinking. I don't know how that part of arvaniti blood is not boiling for that what are u saying, or maybe there's no more arvaniti traces in your blood, 'cause only one who is not of arvaniti's descendant can say something like this.Arvanities negating their albanian heritage is like they negate their own existence.
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@Jeffanos ahaha u r not an arvanite, the arvanites i have met they think it differently. and bythe way should you b an arvanite youd be able to understand and speak arvanitika/ albanian and understand that all in bocari and xhavella is in albanian. as i mentioned earlier, XHAVELLA means dear brother (Xhan+Vella). but since ur not u cant know cos besides being a scared person ur uneducated
SuperAribu 3 months ago
@SuperAribu Whatever shepard now go catch up with your ship...I'm tired of addresing Albanians u r the most stupid and fanatic people on earth cause u r nothing more than shepards and construction workers now go back to work and leave the evolved things such as internet to more evolved persons....
Jeffanos 3 months ago
@Jeffanos listen, the only way u have to protect yourself is to offend? You r the image of what is Greece today. A bunch of uneducated racist ppl like yourself. The minimum you should do is to thank us Albanians for all this(Yes I am one and Proud to be although I have orthodox origins). As a matter of fact dear ignorant I live in France hold 2 degrees, speak fluently 6 languages, earn 6000 eur/month and pay tax so that the EU can feed you. so pls be more respectful.
SuperAribu 3 months ago
@SuperAribu Of course my friend and i work for NASA it's really tough and i will be respectfull to you and your "glorious" nation...Anyway don't waste my time shepard i have enough worries about my studies and arguing with an Albanian doesn't help me at all....
Jeffanos 3 months ago
@Jeffanos well its true i cant prove you but I really do. Je px te la faire en français pour que t'y crois? it shows at least that i speak french. Im into trading (i have a masters in applied mathematics) and studing history. So my base salary + bonus is not far from 5000-6000 depending on the year... Umm yet i cant prove you but most of the albanians are like me... Te lo giuro. eh si parlo anche italiano, vedi??? I have nothing against greece. Just against injustice. Good luck with the studying
SuperAribu 3 months ago
@Jeffanos wtf.... you working for NASA!!!....LMAO..... if you did that then you would have better knowledge and understanding about your own past 'cause NASA don't accept every ignorant among their midst....
yllbardh 3 months ago
@yllbardh Pff as i said Albanians are so stupid and uneducated that they cannot recognise the concept of sarcasm when they see it...Now leave me alone i have better things to do u know like studying...
Jeffanos 3 months ago
Hajdut Historie po keta Greket por ne shqiptaret bejme gabimin me te madhe kur nr i lejojme Greket te na Vjedhin Kulturen.Kur Kultura vidhet o shoke edhe historia zbulohet mbi fakte te paverteta.Kjo me ka ndodhur mua ne nje Muze ne perendim ku nje nga ata docentet aty thoshin se muzika antike kendihet ne Greqine veriore.Derisa une nderhyva dhe irhashe se engaterroni me muziken Shipe.ky eshte problemi
LekaDukagjini 1 year ago 2
o greke rrace jevgjish te ardhur nga egjipti o hajdute historie dhe heronjsh shqiptare
o popull pederast pa gjak dhe pa flamur prisni se se shpejti cdo gje do te shkoje ne vend te vet fuuuuuuuuuck you dirty people fuuuuuuuuuck serbian tooooo
MrLeonealbania 1 year ago
oute oi idioi den xeran ti itan 'oute kai kaneis allos mporei na pei me sigouria.dilonan ellines otan tous simfere kai otan den listeuan ta xoria pou eixan stin ipotelia tous'gia na plionoun tos forous tous .mia apo do mia apo ekei.sto telos fagotikan apo esoterikes diamaxes pou eixan oi fares metaxi tous /mpotsaris .tzavelas/ oi souliotes einai arvanites..
minoasboxing 1 year ago
all wars are fought, orthdox albanians fought with greeks against, muslim souliote albanians wich where with the turks.. albanians against albanians. no greeks there
agon1984 1 year ago
2:19 the word said is 100% albanian . Does mean --- neck , one of the village of arvanitas
4Absolut 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
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TheKostakis 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
Agori mou ... poia einai i Ratsa sou oi ARVNITES ? ahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahaha
giati vazeis autogoal ?
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil eisai kai koutos..na mas peis tin diki sou ratsa poia einai;;ounos ;;tataromogkolos;apo ton kaukaso;tourkos;slavos ;fragkos;italos;toskides;gkekides;tsamides;tourkalvanos;;ellinas; servos;arvanitis;
minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
I diki mou RATSA einai i Shkipetariki... afti pou ekane tin epanastasi stin Ellada....
Axeldevil 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
Epeidi eisai Touvlo kai anistoritos... tha sou pw oti o M.Alexandros den eixe misthoforiko strato..
o Stratos pou itan misthoforikos itan oi Ellines pou tous plirone o DARIOS...
Axeldevil 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
to na grafeis antikimenika gia tin Istoria den paei na pei oti ta exw valei me tous Neoellines.. eksallou to Ntokimanter einai tou Kratikou Kanaliou ET3 ... ta parapona sou sto ET3...
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil to ET3 to grafo sta arxidia mou ta ntokimanter auta ftiaxnontai se 1 ora gia skopous emporikous exete provlima kai vlepete oneira me anoixta matia .oi souliotes afanistikane sta pedia tis maxis gia tin ellada ''mesologgi 1823''kefalovriso 9 augoustou 1823''amplianis 1824''mesologgi 1826''distomo 1827''''DEN EMEINE KANEIS''KAI TOUS TIMITIKES ESY PALIOMALAKA TO 2010 NA MAS PEIS OTI ITAN ALVANOI
ANTIKIMENIKA OI ISTORIA SOU LEEI MIN LES MALAKIES
minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
to dokimanter den einai 1oras paragogis... apla den sou aresei i alithia...
Kapioi souliotes glitosan ... mexri kai simera exei stin albania souliotes pou kratane apo tous tzavelleous , exoun erthei Albania apo to 1823... den theoroun tous eautous tous ellines , oute oi neoellines tous theoroune meionotikous... mias kai einai katharoi albanoi opos oi Suliotes sto Suli.
An exeis parapona pigene kai pes tous...
Axeldevil 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
To oti oi Souliotes einai Albanogenis einai apodedigmeno
opos einai apodedigmeno oti stin Attiki i kiriarxi glossa itan ta alvanika...
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil APO POU EINAI ALVANOGENIS ; GIA APODEIXE TO;;YPARXEI ALVANIKO FYLO;;APO POTE;; MIA PARTOUZA MIPOS;;;ALMPOUS ;;LATINIKO ;LEUKOS...STIN ATTIKI SAS FERAN OI KATALANOI KAI PIO PRIN MILAGAN ELLINIKA KAI FRAGKIKA KAI LOIPON;;SAS FTAXAN GLOSSA OI ITALOI TO 1900 ATELIS GLOSA XORIS MATIMATIKA XOPIS DOMI 10 GLOSES MAZI KAI LES GIA KIRIARXI GLOSA;;TSIMPOURIA POU PINOUN AIMA EKI KATALIGO ISTORIKA EXETE PAREI AUTO TON ROLO TO 1913 GEINATE KRATOS
minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
diavase to parakato gramma p sou parethesa tou Kastrioti kai mouga...
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil kala ta les etsi o omoaimos mou itan o megaliteros igetis pou sas ekprosopise pote katos kai oles tis alles mionotites pou itan ypotageis stin vyzantinoi aytokratoria to leei epano oi sfragida tou sta ellinika pateras ellinas mana serva kai einai alvanos;;;aima elliniko na eisai perifanos apogonos tou axilea tou alexandrou tou sokrati ean den exeis kapoion na eisai perifanos na dexteis oti eiste palasgoi kai oti eiste suggenes fulo meta lipis mou to leo me tous ellines alios xexna to
minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
1)Omoaimoi sou einai oi Tourkalades ekei stin M asia...
2)O Kastriotis gnisios Albanos kai Gkekas den exei kamia sxesi me sena.
3)I sfragida pou les esi einai pseftiki. exeis minei ligo piso
4)O pateras tou itan Albanos, I mitera tou mporei na itan Boulgara kai oxi Serva.
5)Siggenis filo eimai me tous Gnisious ellines ... oxi me epilides apo Asia.. oute me ellinofonous slavous
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil eseis kai oi tourkoi trote apo to idio trapezi eiste symaxoi eisastan tsirakia tous exete idia onomata eiste mousoulmanoi glosa kai emeis eimaste omoaimoi;kai oxi eseis;o kastriotis sas eftiaxe kai tin simaia apo vyzantina sumvola'an eisai syggenis me tous arxaious ellines einai kalo mravo agori mou exo ena alvano filo ton lene afrim les na einai ellinas oi tourkosporos; yparxei sfragida tou kastroiti to 1460 sta alvanika;afou sas ftiaxan glosa to 1900 ;;
minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
1)To oti exoun mouslimanika onomata den tha pei oti eimaste Turkoi ... dld autoi p exoun xristianika onomata einai ti ratsas dld?
2)Misthoforoi oi alvanoi exoun iparksei oxi mono ton Tourkon alla kai ton evropaion.
Sou ipenthimizw stradiotes..
3)Oi Byzantinoi den itan Ellines... apo olous tous autokratores kanenas den itan ellinikis katagogis... oi perissoteroi Armenioi kai Illyriois opos o M Konstantinos.
4)Omoaimoi iste giati sas stilane tous tukrus xristianus me tin antalagi.
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil
Το τι ηταν οι βυζαντινοι δεν θα το πεις εσυ, ειδικα οταν το ρωμιοι μας το λες κοροιδευτικα. Και οταν το δικο σου κρατος το ιδρυσαν οι ιταλοι απο συμφερον. Βαλτο καλα στην κλαβα σου Ελληνοφωνοι ορθοδοξοι=Βυζαντινοι.
Τραβα τωρα να πουλησεις ναρκωτικα αλβανε. ΟΧΙ εδω ομως.
ALEX3XX 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
katarxin psakse ligo tis rizes sou giati san Neoellinas den exeis kamia sxesi me ton arxaio Ellhna... kai ase ton Kastrioti pou thelete na ton vgalete kai Neoellina ... dld ELEOS..
Oi gidovoskoi KLEFTES pou tous vrizeis enantiothikan stous Tourkous ... giati ama itan sto xeri tis adinamis kai fovitsiarikis ratsas sas , tha milouses simera tourkika..
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil eimai souliotis ellinas telos''kastriotis georgios ellinas''pateras ioannis''mitera voisava serva''to 1968 vgalate stin alvania gramatosimo me to onoma tou kai meta to alaxate se skerntempei to tourkiko onoma pou tou eixan dosei''sas voleuei to tourkiko''oi sfragida tou pou exei sotei einai sta ellinika me to sosto onoma'ton polemisate sklira kai meta ton kanate iroa''OTAN LEO GIDOVOSKOI KAI KLEFTES DEN EKFRAZO TIN GNOMI MOU''ISTORIKA ANAFEROME''TA PARAPONA STO ET3
minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
kala lew oti eisai anistoritos... Pali TAPA tha fas!! giati pas girevontas agori mou kai diasernese kai meta diagrafeis ta sxolia sou ?!!! eheheeheh
loipon fato tora gia na xortaseis..
Gramma tou Kastrioti pros ton prigkipa Tarantou ksekinaei os ekseis..
..Giorgio Signore dell'Albania,
a Giovanni Antonio Principe di Taranto
Salute.
den sinexizw giati tha diasirtheis ....
Axeldevil 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
Den kaname tsimpoukia stous tourkous ... kati pou to kanane oi Pappades sas edw kai kati xronia. opos kai eseis stous alvanous passades.
MACEDONIA: ITS RACES AND THEIR FUTURE.
by H. N. Brailsford (Methuen & Co., London, 1906)
Both the Suliotes and Hydriotes were Albanians in blood, language, and customs.
They were “Greeks” only in the sense that the Vlachs are “Greeks” — they belonged to the Orthodox Church, and if any of them possessed any culture at all, it was Greek culture
Axeldevil 1 year ago
Albanians As soldiers they are the terror alike of their Turkish officers, whom they despise, and of the Christian populations, whom they terrorise.
He has the traditions of a race which has fought for the Turk as his mercenaries, but has never accepted his domestic rule without protest.
An Albanian’s sense of honour is not entirely external. He will murder you without remorse if he conceives that you have insulted him —
as Turkish officers and Russian consuls have learned to their cost
Axeldevil 1 year ago
It is pretty generally understood in Turkey that it is death to strike an Albanian. But occasionally a Turkish officer forgets himself.
A case occurred at Vodena in the summer of 1904, and the whole garrison went into mutiny until it had found and slaughtered the erring
lieutenant.
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil GIUSEPPE PECCIO'''italos komis sunodos tou agglikou daneiou tis elladas''se erotisi pou kanei sto kostantino mpotsari..''o tanatos tou adelfou sou doxazei tin ellada''mpotsaris''to mono pou epitimoun oi ellines einai enas tanatos san auton'''''ton xeretaei filontaston sto stoma..entiposi kanei ston italo oti eixan makria malia ektos apo to metopo kai ton krotafo tous pou ta koureuan epitides.ola auta kratoun apo etima arxaia ellinika pou oi souliotes katos kai oloi i ellines eixan
minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
ahahaha pali me kaneis na gelaw!!!!!!!!
autou tou eidous to kourema to kanane MONO oi albanoi... kai sinithos to kanane oi tsamides... Des enan pinaka pou apeikonizei ton Ali pasha stin limni Bouthrotou apo ton Louis Dupre ... ekei tha deis tous albanous ta protopalikara tou pou kanoun koupi... kai einai ksirismenoi me to xaraktiristiko ALVANIKO tropo
Axeldevil 1 year ago
Episis epeidi den kserei oute o blakas o Italos..o paparas o makaronas..
Afinane makria ta mallia etsi oste ama pianontan aixmalotoi kai tous kovane to kefali,
ithelan na min xalane ta xaraktiristika tou prosopou tous.....
auta gia simera ROMIE..
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil ahaha to kanate kai eseis;;iliada exeis diavasei exei kapoia stoixia gia tis paradoseis aytes tis ellinikes'''''kai einai kapou 2500 xronia prin to pinaka tou louis''kai alla tosa prin eseis arxizete na exete grapto logo eiste to teleteuo kratos ston kosmo kai prin apo esas einai oi tixoua pou tous anakalipsan ston amazonio prin 15 xronia'' ala akoma kai aytoi grafan''mi les gia tous italous giati enas alvanoitalos sas eftiaxe glosa prin apo liga xronia
minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
Exw diavasei agori mou Iliada ... den eimai amatheis opos eisai esi...
Kai exw diavasei ki olas oti MONO oi ALVANOI kourevan to kefali etsi ... sou eksigisa to logo giati....
I glossa mas auti pou milane kai oi Arvanites ... miliete edw kai 1000des xronia...
den einai dimiourgima kapoiou italou re anistorite..
Axeldevil 1 year ago
na lete pali kala pou itan oi ellines sklavoi kai oi alvanoi skotonan kai gamagane sto foul kai etsi yparxei kai enas logos kai tous anaferoun oi istoriki kai i istoria ;;; eno simera den exoun sxesi me tous progonous tous ...simera einai antropoi tis texnis kai ton gramaton kai poso moiazan me tous souliotes ..ideologoi more ''eleteuria oi tanatos''
minoasboxing 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
Ego "antrope" mou mias kai to TH den to xrisimopoiis den exw grapsei kati ... auto to video einai parmeno apo to dokimanter tou ET3 .... Ean esi eisai kaliteros gnostis (pragma pou amfivalo) kane ena video sto opoio tha mas parousiaseis me stixia to poso Romioi(giati ellinas einai neos oros ) itan oi Suliotes...
Axeldevil 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
edw leme no Comment...
Ean den exeis Idea giati asxolise me ta tis Istorias?...
Giati mperdeveis tin Vourtsa me tin P.tsa ?
Axeldevil 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
Katarxin gia na katalaveis ti egine me tous omoaimous tous Suliotes , arkei na koitakseis stin maxi tou Granikou tous misthoforous Ellines , oi opioi itan xiliades kai pigan me tous Perses enantion tou Alexandrou...
Axeldevil 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
Mpetovlaka to na les oti oi Arvanites den einai Alvanoi... einai san na les oti oi Ellines den einai Grekoi... TUVLO
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil 'telika einai sexoualiko to pvovlima sou'oi alvani einai mamelouki.tourkoi.mogkoloi.k.t.l.oi arvanites einai ellines ipirotes pou tous dioxate meta ton tanato tou kastrioti tzavelas kai aloi.ellines kai arvanites milagan tourkika kai alvanika ti einai tourkoi;i alvanoi;to misos ton arvaniton gia sas den sou leei tipota;;me to zori na alaxeis ta gegonota ;an to 21 esena se eixan mposta tous ta sou kovan ti miti sou,kai tin mpamia sou i arkades oi krites oi tesaloi oi makedones ti einai
minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
a)Epeidi eisai anistoritos ... den tha mas kaneis kai mathima istorias...
oi ARVANITES DEN milagan Turkika.. oute oi Alvanoi ...ta aderfia sou oi Mikrasiates omos....
b)To misos pou les ton arvaniton einai propaganda ...den isxiei
c)GIa poious Makedones m les tora?!!!!!!! mallon sou ksefevgei oti mexri telous 18ou aiwna i Thessaloniki itan Evraiki poli....
poia thessalia ? ekoi pou einai oloi vlaxoi?
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil eisai asteios stin arxi ala meta xefeugeis asxima'oi alvanoi gkekides oi tourkomoggoloi mousoumalmanoi den milagan tourkika;;oi arvanites me tous alvanous sfazontousan apo agapi ;;kai oxi apo misos;;epi ton tassalon niki 340 p.x.kai ftiaxneta apo ton alexandro oi tesalloniki gia tin maxi kai tin niki tou.tous evraious tous ferane oi en meri apo tous pollous alous progonoi sou oi tourkoi to 1492 kai loipon;to 1908 me tin epanastsi ton neotourkon tous xanadioxane kai loipon;
minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
Oi gkegkides den milagane turkika pote ... malista poly itan kai Katholikoi , opos oi Mirdites pou tous eixe stin doulepsi tou o Ali Pashas os Misthoforous..
Prin sinexiseis gia tous arvanites ... anoikse ena etimologiko leksiko ...kai des ekei kai ksestravosou pou leei ARVANITIS = KATIKOS ALVANIAS , ELLINAS ALBANIKIS KATAGOGIS.
Oi Evreoi anistorite irthan apo tin Ispania , otan tous edioksan to meseona.
Axeldevil 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
@Axeldevil o megalos ellinas kai vlaxos ''phgas ferraios''os pote palikaria ta zoume sta stena monaxoi san liontaria stis raxes sta vouna'' auta sou ta leei o rigas rotise ton ti einai ta sou pei kalitera o idios einai vlaxos opos '''' kai oi souliotes me tis praxeis tous ''''''ola ta ala einai sxolia dika sou kai apo prosopikes sou fantasiosis kai emones na litrosis tin fara sou me andragatimata pou einai agnosta stin fara sou ''kouptove mic;
minoasboxing 1 year ago
@minoasboxing
Oi Suliotes polemousan gia to simferon tous ... den eixan kapoia ideologia..
Fantasiosi sou einai oti to 1821 ipirxe ELLINIKI ethniki sinidisi... kati to opoio kataskevastike argotera... auta "ROMIE"....
Axeldevil 1 year ago
@Axeldevil ''trelopoutano eisai to xereis;;esy se kate kouventa pou kaneis prepei sto telos na sou travane kai 2 fapes giati to travaei o kolos sou''sou egrapsa ti elege o idios o kostas mpotsaris ala esy ta dika sou outsekades ta tous kaneis se ligo..vrika se kati xartes mia perioxi anamesa stin tsetsenia kai to azerpaitzan to lene alvania ''''xereis kati gia ayto file mamelouke;;
minoasboxing 1 year ago
@Axeldevil
Δεν μπορω να καταλαβω ρ ανυπαρκτε τι κοροιδευεις. Ρωμιοι λεγομασταν γιατι ειμασταν οι Βυζαντινοι. Στην μικρα ασια απο την αρχαιοτητα υπηρχαν ελληνες. Αρκετοι Οθωμανοι ηταν βυζαντινοι, οι σελτζουκοι ηταν μογγολοι. Υπαρχει μια συνεχεια στην ιστορια μας ρε, Ο πυρηνας του βυζαντιου η Το ορθοδοξο πατριαρχειο ανεκαθεν ηταν ελληνικο και επι τουρκοκρατιας και τωρα. Επισης οι βορειοηπειρωτες ειναι ελληνες και βαλτο καλα στο μυαλο σου, στον β παγκοσμιο φασιστες, οταν μπηκαμε μεσα πανηγυριζαν.
ALEX3XX 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
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minoasboxing 1 year ago
Ο Περαιβός ήταν Παργινός. Γνώριζε καλά ποιοι ήταν στο Σούλι και το γραφει. Εσύ όμως δεν το ομολογης. Οι πρώτοι κάτοικοι του Σουλίου ήταν Γαρδικιωτες, και αφού το Γαρδίκη τούρκεψε οι μισοί κάτοικοι έφυγαν και πήγαν στο Σούλι για να μην ζουν μαζί με τους αλαξοπιστησμενους. Το ιδιο γραφει και ο Ανδρεας Ιδρωμενος και αυτος Παργηνος.
1hMAL 1 year ago
ALBANIAN BRAVEHEARTS
GREEK FAGGOTS
DO THE MATH
iliri84 1 year ago
sa cinike keta greket... Suliotet dihet nga bota mbare qe ishin shqiptare, sigurisht qe ishin kunder Osmaneve dhe Aliut, por ishin shqiptare.
mondi2780 1 year ago
GIASSOU ARVANITI!!!
balkancoolhead 1 year ago
they were Albanians and their kids are from Albanian blood...Greece is just their adopted country, that's all.Why is so hard to understand?
Marko was 100% Albanian. Go take a trip in the museum ofFrance and read his book written in Albanian.
keesog 1 year ago
@keesog god bless u man, i've been tring to say to many people this but they see me like I'm an UFO. Not only that the intersting part is that this is not just a common dicitionary it is a military dicitionary, since all the marine of greece in that time used to speak only albanian, so they had to give orders to the other soldiers.
karispidha1 1 year ago
DONT SPEAKE IN GAY LANGUAGE BITCH hellasnet2000. FUCK GREECE.
LONG LIVE ETNIK ALBANIA
filaqoticam 1 year ago
@filaqoticam
MALAKA alvano gia panta
hellasnet2000 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@hellasnet2000 DONT SPEAKE IN GAY LANGUAGE BITCH
i fuck you all
filaqoticam 1 year ago
@hellasnet2000 ... malaka bankrupt failed state patrioti... now your power is gone... poof!!! no more empty churches and propaganda in southern albania, no more bullshit with the name of Macedonia... German and French banks will never let your Ministry of Interior waste their money that way... ha ha... welcome to the new world order monoutriche... you clowns overplayed your hand... suggestion: why don't you join with Servia and become a LARGE FAILED STATE or moral degenerates...
balkancoolhead 1 year ago
@balkancoolhead malakes hsaSTan malakes tha minite tipota den mathate apo tin istoria
afoy nomizetai oti exete tha kotsia ksipoliti gidovoski KALOS NA ORISETAI
ANOIKSANE KAI SAS PERIMENOYME
HLI HLI
hellasnet2000 1 year ago
Suliotet jane shqiptare! dhe nuk erdhen ne Sul per tu strehuar apo se ishin zbuar nga Shqiptaret..
O Shqiptare te mire mos u besoni ketij dokumentari. eshte shprehje e nje mashtrim shekullor! Suljotet luftuan per te drejtat e tyre kunder otomaneve, mbas luftes nisen vrasjet barbare nga ana e grekeve dhe pjesen e mbetur e quajne greke dhe jo shqiptare.
SULI=SHQIPTARE!
unidosparalamusica1 1 year ago 9
egw ena 3erw paidia agapw thn gh mou afth k auth pou 8a parw PISW h monoss h me ollh thn ellada.. egw thn mikra asia 8a thn parw to PALIO mou spiti t 8elw pisw gt eida pws t katadhsan k autoi oi morfasmoi pou len oti o alloc htan alvanoss k tetoia egw dn t pisteuww... k o megass ale3andros lene oi mpastardoi oi skopiaoi oti einai dikos tous emeis 8a tous piste4oume??? e???? egw ton ponto ton 8elw pisw. pisteuw cta kokkala twn progonwn mou
greekaras454 1 year ago
Pou kolane tora auta pou grafeis me to SULI ?
Axeldevil 1 year ago
Min eiste provata re.Beite sto wikipedia na deite.O ka8enas lei to makru tou k to konto tou..
1984molotov 2 years ago
@GREEKGOD20000
You gay greek make me with nephew?????????!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are greek and the gruks are all gay.
You are geneticaly all gay-s, so go to the corner of the street(Fari) damned bitch,because there you can find your dad,your mum,your fother,your brother,your sister's.You know: The greeks are known in the world for two things: 1- GAY-s and 2- TRAITOR-s
The second one you can't do any more, besause the world know you, so you can do better the first.Meant to say SUPER GAY
filaqoticam 2 years ago
you are the TRAITOR
hellasnet2000 1 year ago
@hellasnet2000 FUCK BITCH IDIOT GREECE
filaqoticam 1 year ago
@filaqoticam
ante kai gamisoy prodoti Ellina
h wra einai poli konta oso den fantazesai
HLI HLI
hellasnet2000 1 year ago
@hellasnet2000 DONT SPEAKE IN GAY LANGUAGE.
I FUCK YOU ALL GYPSYS GREECE
filaqoticam 1 year ago
suliote are pure albanian blood....bot they like to be greks so fuck they all....they was strong with turks bot with other albanian when they fight just luse....
giordanwhite 2 years ago 13
απο τις ονομασιες των τοπονυμιων καταλαβαινει κανεις τι΄ηταν αυτοι που ηταν καποτε στο σουλι...κιαφα π.χ επιπλεον οταν λεει οτι ο μποτσαρης εμαθε ελληνικα στα 20χρ. τοτε καταλαβαινει κανεις οτι μονο ελληνικα δεν ηταν η μητρικη τους γλωσσα...
frustrated1985 2 years ago
TA COMMENT pou diavasa katalaba oti eiste oloi sigoura ellinarades
ganjas21 2 years ago
no war make love. patrida mou h gh (A)
ganjas21 2 years ago
Mamate o bythqirat e greqise bythqire
Baballaret o kurvat e greqise kurve
filaqoticam 2 years ago
Η ιστορία η πραγματική είναι αυτή που λέει ο παππούς στο τζάκι για να μεταφέρει στην επόμενη γενιά τις ρίζες της!!εσείς δεν έχετε τέτοιες μαρτυρίες,εμείς όμως έχουμε χιλιάδες, όσες ψυχές είναι ακόμα ζωντανές Σουλιώτικες. . .
fotiosvasso 2 years ago
και εγώ έχω ρίζες σουλιώτικες αλλά δεν είμαι αλβανός μαλάκες!!Όσο καλά και να έχεις διαβάσει,τα γεγονότα δεν αλλάζουν.Σίγουρα υπήρχαν και αρβανίτικες φάρες ομως μικρές σε ιεραρχία.Αν όλοι οι Σουλιώτες είμασταν αλβανοί δεν θα είχαμε ελληνικά ονόματα.
fotiosvasso 2 years ago
mipos thes na sou grapso kai oles tis souliotikes fares ?
Tzavella , Bocari .. einai ellinika onomata ? a mpa!!
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Δηλ τα ονόματα παππάς,κουτσονίκας,τόκας,δράκος κτλ θα μου πεις ότι είναι κ αυτά αλβανικά??επειδή είμαι από του μπότσαρη,θα σου πω ότι στο και στο σόι μας μας λένε να βροντοφωνάζουμε ότι είμαστε ΈΛΛΗΝΕΣ
fotiosvasso 2 years ago
δεν θα κάτσω να σου μάθω ελληνική ιστορία γιατί σαν αλβανός που είσαι θα την απορρίψεις!!Δεν έχετε καμιά σχέση ούτε με Σούλι αλλά ούτε και με Ελλάδα!!
fotiosvasso 2 years ago
katse diavase kana vivlio giati exeis pliri mesanixta...
Axeldevil 2 years ago
γιατι;κάνω κάπου λάθος;
fotiosvasso 2 years ago
nai kaneis lathos ... oi Souliotes exoun erthei sto souli ... to Suli den itan katikimeno prin Erthoun oi Suliotes to meseona..
Axeldevil 2 years ago
pes ta re file...!!!twra prospathoun mexri k oi alvanoi na mas mathoun tn istoria mas... Koita re pou katantisame!!! k milaw gia alvanous tous opoious emeis ts prosexoume k tous taizoume!!!!!Krima...
ThEGrEEkBoY19 2 years ago
Mas taizete .... siga re magka...
Auto tha to legate otan tha trogame tsampa ...
to thema einai oti Emeis Sas taizoume..
kane analisi monos sou ti tha pei auto...
Axeldevil 2 years ago
ante kala.... ean den eisastan eseis tha eixame pe8anei!!!! sas euxaristoume Zitw i alvania.... ante pare dromo k pane stn patrida s re blakako pou tha mas peis k tetoies mlks!!!! emeis fteme re pou sas kalodextikame apo tn zougla..... MOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
ThEGrEEkBoY19 2 years ago
otan taize o Pappous mou tous Ellines stratiotes ston italo-elliniko... tote itan pou sas taizame ...
vlakako ... rwta mia ton pappou sou... poios ton taize..
Axeldevil 2 years ago
autes tis blakeies pou les tis skeutese i s bgainoun authormita?? dn kathomai n asxolithw allo mazi s !!!! Euxarisoume pou mas swsate gia alli 1 fora ean dn upirxate eseis tha eixame pe8anei apo tn peina..!! re oust apo edw lew egw!!!!bb
ThEGrEEkBoY19 2 years ago
geia sou greek boy me ta orea sou!!kai thimisou oti zoume giati mas taizan oi alvanoi!!pou na to peis kai poios na se pistepsei re pousti mou. . .
fotiosvasso 2 years ago
@Axeldevil
τι να ρωτησουμε ρε φιλε πλακα μας κανεις> μαζι με τους ιταλους δεν πολεμησατε το 1940?
2005defender 1 year ago
Adriano edho .Baso D.psimouli dhulevi sta Gjenika Arxia tou ethnous kai kseri ta panta. exei kani to vivlio Souli kai Souliotes apo ekdhosis estia .Souliotes itan Alvanoi , oxi arvanites
Kali dhiavasi !
Adriano2214 2 years ago
Ey ! Akoute ton ADRIANO .Baso D.Psimouli exei kani to vivlio ..Souli kai Souliotes apo ekdhosis ESTIA .Ergazete sta genika arxia tou ethnous .
Souliotes ..Alvanoi ,oxi arvanites .G.A tou kratous
Adriano2214 2 years ago
Ej ! Adrianom edho
Baso D. Psimouli vivlio ...Souli kai Souliotes
ekdhosis ESTIA .Apo to 1993 ergazete sta gjenika arxia tou ethnous .afti ta kseri ola .kai ley
..SOULIOTES EITAN ALVANOI OXI ARVANITES
Adriano2214 2 years ago
No doubt Suliota were Albanian ,and they spoke albanian language.Old greeks were far away in islands of Krete samos and the rest.
TeKenguri 2 years ago
ΜΟΝΟ αυτα τα 2 νησια ξερεις παλιομαλακα αλβανε?
janellsis 2 years ago
History is history and cannot be distorted or denied. The speaker here says it clearly: Some say they were albanians (christian orthodox ) but they fought for their freedom and the freedom of those lands around here at a time there was no Greece (and no Albania). So their cause is Universal: they fought that they live as free people and a free life from turkish occupiers and from tyrants like Ali Pasha. This is the truth. They are freedom fighters and send a clear message for everyone today.
epirotas 2 years ago 2
perktheje ne anglisht do ishte mire fare
alti73 2 years ago
cuna e moret vesht qe ket gazetarin e hoqen ka puna pre kti emisionit qe kishte bo? klm
Therandeon 2 years ago
Po, e morem vesh.
eroshi 2 years ago
These are all time wasting arguments! No one will win at these racial motivated talks, you will only plague your heart with hate, so therefore lets all put our hatred aside and greet one another with open arms.
Illyria2 2 years ago
Albanian is a foreign word to describe the Albanian people of the Balkans. The inhabitants of the place first called themselves Ilirian which means "to be free" in Shqip. Then over the ages the Ilirian word was forgoten only to be placed by Arberia, name of short lived country during the middle ages but the people always called themselves Shqipetare.
Therefore the Albania in Scotland and Caucasus has nothing to do with present Albania, the people don't call themselves Albanians but Shqipetar
Illyria2 2 years ago
it's shame to claim arvanites as albanians...
you have been defeated by grecous all the time.... remember on 1914 ... europeans help you to fight against epirotians... don't forget it ..
Epicomahos 2 years ago
Epirotians ? ahahahahaha
why do u think that albanians are not epirotians ?
aahahahahahaha 0 in history...
Axeldevil 2 years ago
they didnot know Greece? sure?
i readen that arvanites claim they were Greeks... they feel Greek. ..
Epicomahos 2 years ago
arvanites came from a city north ... named Arvon ... what they have to do with albanians? albanians were in caucasus.... after they imigrate them ... they came in illyria and epirus... look at those clowns.... they claim Greek warriors the arvanites Souliotes... they confused the greeks of Arvon with with asians Albanians... shame
Epicomahos 2 years ago
From a City north ? uahahahahahahaah
man you must be on drugs or smth............
Axeldevil 2 years ago
albanians were in caucasus based on ancient geographians.... you moved to balkans later by romans...
the name Arvon doesnt comes from Albanians... who are asians ... ugly fags ...
Arvanit comes from Arvon .... ancient city near illyria. ...
those people as i read... they believed they were descend to ancient greeks...
in a poetry ... arvanites call the leader of "romioi" lion ...
Epicomahos 2 years ago
1)None of us has ever called ourselves as albanians... (witch is a foreign word used by non albanians)
2)I know that in ancient Illyria there used to be a Polis named ALBANOPOLIS
3)In ancient times SCOTLAND has been called ALBANIA
4)There is no scientific prove that European albanians are in any way related (linguistically or racially ) to the ones in Asia.....
5)All the children of Arbanon
have been scatter around balkans
(Greece,italy,Turkey)
all accept their origin except SOME albanian greeks
Axeldevil 2 years ago
@Epicomahos You should be a stand up comedian :o) Not only funny but you are hilarious, pure talent. :o)
What was it again? Hahahahahahahaha Arberor (Arvanites) are Greek? And they just happen to speak Albanian and wear Albanian dress and rule themselves with Albanian kanun? Wait, wait, it gets really funny now; even though Albanians came from Caucasus and had no contact with them?!!!
Hahahahahah!!!
Poor Epi, jealousy is eating into your soul :o)
Respect people who made you free and shut up
dardha 1 year ago
greeks are funny people you dont have nothing no culture no music, nothing ugly black bastards , we albanians, are the oldest nation here in europe your just a peas of nationalist shit.
agon1984 2 years ago
you forgot a detail .... wake up !!!
george kastriot your ethnic hero was greek epirotian commander !!!
Epicomahos 2 years ago
LOL!
Alexandros1294 2 years ago
they the Suliots could not even stand you, so you Genocided them! Assholes! I SHALL PROMIsE U justice!
AlbDori 2 years ago
Για να μην παίζεις το Μπουρί σου όλη μέρα
Να κάνουμε το ένα μας
και τούρκοι και ραγιάδες
τον τόπο να παστρέψουμε
από τους αρβανιτάδες
Λαμπρυνίδης, Η Ναυπλία , σελ 306.
Axeldevil 2 years ago
nice song by the way...
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Let us Translate this old song ,
Let us Be ONE
Turks and Farmers (Greeks)
to clean our place
from the arvanites
Lamprinidis , Nafplia . page 306
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Axeldevil te pershendes per kete dokumentar dh replikat qe ben me greket!! njerez si puna jote i duhen Shqipris ton te dashur!!! vashdo keshtu dhe njeher bravo!!!!
VLONJATI1912 2 years ago
Μεγα ιστορικε,μπορεις να αναφερεις σε ποιο ιστορικο γεγονος αναφερεται αυτο το τετραστιχο,ποιοι ειναι οι ραγιαδες και ποιοι οι αρβανιταδες???Καλο το βιβλιο του Λαμπρυνιδη?
Nocebo21 2 years ago
Oi ragiades einai oi "Romioi" kai oi Arvanitades einai οι alvanoi tis peloponissou...
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Θ Κολοκοτρώνης στα «απομνημονεύματα» : «Εις τον πατέρα μου έστειλε χωριστό μπουγιουρτί : έλθετε να βγάλουμε τους Αρβανίτες και να εύρει ο ραγιάς το δίκιο του. Ο πατέρας μου εκίνησε με χιλίους στρατιώτες και έπιασε τα τρόκορφα...
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Το αλλο το μπουγιουρτι το εστειλε στον Πλαπουτα...Αρβανιτης κι αυτος αλλα ραγιας...Επομενως ο ορος αρβανιταδες αναφερεται στους αλβανους μισθοφορους που κατεβηκαν μετα τα ορλωφικα και οχι σε ντοπιους χριστιανους αλβανοφωνους.Γνωστα πραγματα
Nocebo21 2 years ago
ahahaha Alvanous misthoforous ? kai pioi tous misthonan ? ahahahaahah
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Διαβασε με ποιον τροπο προσπαθησαν οι τουρκοι να καταπνιξουν την επανασταση στην πελοποννησο στα ορλωφικα και μετα να δουμε αν θα γελας.Πολυ απλα εφεραν Αλβανους απο βορρα για να κανουν τη δουλεια
Nocebo21 2 years ago
Koitakse .... emena me endiaferei siniditopiisete oloi oti Arvanitis = Alvanos ....... kai to apedikses kai o idios me tin apantisi sou ....
Dioti kaka ta psemata Alvanos=Arvanitis
kai tes mpourdologies peri ellinon arvaniton afiste tes gia allou.....
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Μην υπεκφευγεις.Εδω μας λες οτι οι τουρκοι συμμαχησαν με τους Ελληνες εναντιον των Αρβανιτων(οπως τους εννοουμε εμεις) ενω η αληθεια ειναι οτι οι ραγιαδες συμμαχησαν με τους Τουρκους εναντιον των Αλβανων ατακτων που ηλθαν επι τουτου στην πελοποννησο μετα τα ορλωφικα
Nocebo21 2 years ago
Και μπορει ο,τι δεν σε συμφερει να το αποκαλεις μπουρδολογια αλλααν αρβανιτης=αλβανος τοτε οι αρβανιτες της πελοποννησου θα υποδεχονταν τους ατακτους ως απελευθερωτες,δε θα συμμαχουσαν με τους αλλους ραγιαδες και τους τουρκους.
Nocebo21 2 years ago
Ti exei na kanei me poia meria eisai ston polemo ?
Allo katagwgh kai allo me poianou to meros eisai se enan polemo
Dld oi Ellines Misthoforoi pou paratathikan sto persiko strato enantion tou M.Aleksandrou... giati den ipodextikan ton M.Aleksandro os apeleftheroti ?
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Δεν εχει να κανει μοναχα μ'εναν πολεμο αλλα με μια μακραιωνη διαδικασια εθνογενεσης κι εθνικης ενταξης που παραβλεπεις σκοπιμα.Οσο για την απωτερη καταγωγη του καθενος,τρεχα γυρευε
Nocebo21 2 years ago
gi auto meta o Kolokwtronis otan bike stin tripoli ekane pyramida me 10.000 kefalia Albanwn.H ekdikish trwgetai panta krya :D
kokotselos 2 years ago
albanon i arvanitwn ?
Axeldevil 2 years ago
h t t p :// albaniatrip. blogspot. com/2006/06/blog-post_115134265322256623. html
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Axeldevil 2 years ago
Gia ton Filo mou ton "Zampidhi"
h tt p : // ergotelina. blogspot. com/search/label/Arb%C3%ABresh%C3%AB
na ksestravothis , einai kai sta ellinika gia na to katalaveis...
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Μαλλον οι Ελληνες αναγκασαν τους Αρβανιτες να μαθουν τα Ελληνικα,οι παπαδες, τους ελεγαν οτι δεν τους καταλαβενει ο θεος στα Αλβανικα ,γ'αυτο πρεπει να ομιλουν στα Ελληνικα.Στην Σαλαμινα ειπαρχουν Αρβανιτες που μιλανε μονο Αλβανικα,ενω ειμαστε ελεφθεροι πλεον...mikegrecia
ILIRIA11111111111111 2 years ago
Ρε εθνικοΕλληνες ακουστε τι λεει η ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ ΚΡΑΤΙΚΗ ΤΗΛΕΟΡΑΣΗ 3 και μην γραφεται τιποτα, γιατι δεν σας συμφερη.ΜΟΝΟΙ ΣΑΣ ΤΑ ΛΕΤΕ ΚΑΙ ΜΟΝΟΙ ΣΑΣ ΤΑ ΑΜΦΥΣΒΗΤΕΙΤΕ!!!!!! ειπαρχουν και Αρβανιτες που ομωλογουν την Αλβανικη τους καταγωγη ... πως να το κανουμε?
ILIRIA11111111111111 2 years ago