@robb493 LAUGH OUT LOUD. Too much media for you apparently, ROFL. Oyama took all the dojo's and martial arts that existed in Japan. He challenged every known school and took their dojo signs. Steven Seagal ROFL!!!!!!!!!!
As far as I am aware, Kyokushin is a form of close combat karate; like Goju-ryu and Uechi-Ryu and un-like Shotokan (long range) and Shukokai Shito-ryu (medium - long range).
Now, Tae Kwon Do is clearly a long range system.
I simply cannot see any connection between TSD and Kyokushin.
Check out my sensei, Grand Master John Olivier video..he was a student of oyama. he breaks 2100 lbs of ice. look up his name in google and his video will show up
If anyone lives in southern California and is interested in taking martial arts classes please contact me or go to whisperingsageranch/com
funny... go and watch Kwon jae hwa No Mas Oyama and no one did what he did, and check this one going for 4 dan Nestor Cerda Your Karate is for kinten garden
Oh and btw, don't spam the youtube page by writing 3-4 times lol. To be honest, I'm barely reading anything you're saying. Karate has many chinese origins and it was influenced by Chinese arts. Chinese arts has been around for thousands of years. It doesn't really change much when it pretty much had everything. Just like Taekwondo or Taekkyon, etc. It has much influence from Japanese arts and came from Chinese origins. Doesn't really change much.
Sorry. did not know you were an admin. I apologise for trying to inform you of the truth. Seeing as you are a Kyokushin student I thought you might care if you have your facts straight. Apparently not. Also I never said I met Oyama or his family. I said my SHIHANS were his close friends. One of my Shihans was his english tranlator for years and Oyama and his family would stay with another of my Shihans when in this country. These Shihans knew Oyama and his family very well.
@Urfism And why do you think that? Because Japan tried to take the martial arts away from them. Japs always said "their" martial arts is superior, their martial arts is better and they are more skilled, etc. Japs hated China long time ago and so did Chinese people. That's how it "skipped" to Japan and then to Korea. Even today, you will see Chinese people making movies about beating Japan people up.
@iAnglesClan "Skipped" to Japan and then to Korea. Sorry bro but you have been indoctrinated. It's like people in Utah saying we had tacos before California.
If you think Chinese people making movies about beating Japs is bad why don't u do some research on the Zaitokukai and other many racist jap groups who even protest tourists openly everyday.
@Urfism Uhhh, that's exactly what I just said lol. Japs stole everything and copy everything. Pretty much every Asian country hates Japan. I never said Chinese people making movies about beating Japs is bad. I am actually happy that they are making them lol. Another good Chinese movie about Japan's disrespectful behaviors is IP Man. IP Man is a good movie and they show scenes of beating Japanese people up and showing how disrespectful the Japs were.
Hwarangdo is the Moo Do (martial art in Korean) made by an ancient Korean country called Shilla about 1,500 years ago. It was imported/modified from China's Shaolin Temple (So Rim Sa) by a revered Korean monk named Won Hyo, who formed an organization called Hwarang to help unify the Korean peninsula then divided into three countries. Hwarangdo became the basis of Tekkyon, Karate and Taekwondo. All Karate Kata/Taekwondo Poom Sae are the descendants of Hwarangdo.
Strictly speaking, Mas Oyama (Choi Bae Dal or Young Hi)'s style is not Taekwondo, period. His style (Geuk Jin Gong Soo or Kyokushin Karate in Japanese) was combined with traditional Japanese Shotokan Karate with the traditional Korea's Tekkyon/Hwarangdo. No wonder Geuk Jin Gong Soo is the best in the world..
there is a lot of bullshit being said about the supposed Korean influence in Kyokushin. Yes Oyama was Korean but he never studied Korean arts. He spent his childhood in Manchuria and briefly had lessons from a farmhand in a form of southern Chinese Kempo and was 13 when he went to Japan with zero training in Korean arts. Oyama was extremely angry that the Korean media said he was a Tae Kyon master because it was not true.
@MiamiBeachMan Oyama returned to Korea and was showing aspects of his style to some Korean martial artists. This footage was shown in Korea with Oyama misrepresented as a Taekeon master. Oyama's family said how upset he was at this as he had no taekeon training and he felt this misrepresentation disrespected his style and the Karate senseis from whom he learnt.
@aldridge1 It could be called Korean arts. Every arts was taken from China so even karate could be considered as Chinese Kung Fu. There's lots of similarities in each arts so that doesn't mean he had zero training in Korean arts. Mas Oyama practiced many arts and studied many things and discovered Kyokushin.
@iAnglesClan What we call karate today is much different to its chinese origins. There has been no chinese influence on karate for hundreds of years and in that time Karate has become its own art with many variations. 'It could be called Korean arts' - Why? because Oyama was Korean? Would you call karate american because chuck norris is american? of course not because that would be retarded.Oyama's was only formally trained in Japanese arts.
@aldridge1 Uhm no. Karate was taken from China, period. That's like saying Taekwondo isn't influenced by Karate, but it is. The only reason why I said "it could be called korean arts" is because Mas Oyama didn't ONLY look for karate. He trained mostly by himself through many different arts, not just by karate. Oyama wasn't only formally trained in Japanese arts. He trained in many and developed his own.
@iAnglesClan Uhm yes. Karate today is much different from the Okiniwan Nahate and Shurite schools that it came from. Even those Okinnwan Shurite and Nahate forms differ greatly from the southern Chinese Tiger Crane that they came from. Yes they have chinese origins but much changes in 500 hundred years.
@iAnglesClan Also you are wrong about Oyama's training. He Studied Goju, Shotokan and Judo to 4th dan and opened the Oyama dojo in the 50's well after his solo mountain training. During this time many martial artists from varying styles came to train at the Oyama dojo for the jis-sen kumite (full contact). Oyama fought many challenge matches at this time. What worked was absorbed. The Oyama Dojo became Kyokushin in 1957.
@iAnglesClan Kyokushin uses technique from European boxing. Would you call Kyokushin a European art? no.
Kyokushin uses aspects of Muay Thai. Would you call it a Thai style? no.
Also I am not saying Kyokushin has no Korean influence, OYAMA SAID KYOKUSHIN HAD NO KOREAN INFLUENCE!! I have been a student of Kyokushin for 25 years. I know the history of my style better than most. Are you a student of Kyokushin?
@aldridge1 Lol, are you being a smartass with me? Of course it's not a European or a thai art because it uses technique from it. Kyokushin was never a Japanese style/art to begin with. Oyama discovered it by learning many arts and styles and put it as one. It's just like Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do. Jeet Kune Do isn't just Chinese art....Well Jeet Kune Do isn't really a style or a art. JKD is more of a hybrid martial arts system and a life philosophy. Same with Kyokushin.
@iAnglesClan No I am not being a smartass with you. I am telling you what the truth is. I do not know where you get your knowledge of Kyokushin or Oyama but what I tell you comes directly from Oyama's family and my Shihans who were close personal friends of Sosai and his family. . You can say it wasn't a japanese art but Oyama said it was and will believe him over you. Why else would he call it BUDO karate? Do not get your info from movies. You did not say. Are you a Kyokushin stident or not?
@aldridge1 I have no idea where YOU get your knowledge of Kyokushin or Yama from. You never even met Mas Oyama or his family in real life so I don't know why you keep repeating that you have. Kyokushin IS a Japanese art but it was never a Japanese style/art to begin with. It was influenced by many different arts and Chinese origins. And yes I am a Kyokushin student. And I will tell you that it isn't "only" a Japanese art. That's like saying TKD is only korean.
When did I say it was only Japanese. Dude I'm not saying it is only Japanese.The core of Kyokushin comes from japanese arts and yes other styles have influenced it but you wouldn't call it thai or european because of those influences would you? of course not. This is the same reason we do not call it a korean art. Sosai openly acknowledged Kyokushin's influences and repeatedly said Korean arts weren't amongst those influences. I will not name names to prove a point to you.
@aldridge1 Exactly, that's what I just said lol. I just said Kyokushin is a Japanese art and it was influenced by many different arts and Chinese origins. For example, TKD is traditional korean art but it was influenced by Karate which was influenced by Chinese Gung Fu. That's why I also said it isn't called Thai or European art because it isn't but that doesn't mean that Kyokushin is "only" a Japanese art. That's like saying TKD is "only" a Korean art, but it isn't.
not bs. This very footage can be seen in a korean made documentary about Oyama. In this very documentary Oyamas family recount how sad and dissappointed Oyama was that he had been described on Korean television as a Tae Kyon master. Oyama was pissed at this lie because he had not trained in tae kyon or other Korean arts... And that was said by oyamas family in a korean made documentary. I have heard it myself from my shihans who were oyamas close friends. Who ever said he was not Korean?
@aldridge1 So where is this documentary you are speaking of? In the documentary you mentioned, were these the same family members who denied Oyama about his true Korean heritage? Funny how this documentary is not around anymore....
Oyama would've never been pissed off about anything(especially back then) towards Koreans, bcuz of people like the Ginza Tiger. Show me proof Oyama was pissed off about anything.
Ask your shihans when they found out Oyama was Korean? They've been fed lies.
@Urfism (Masutatsu Oyama Doco Part 5 ENG SUB (Founder of Kyokushin) ). Here is the docomentary I speak of. found in 10 seconds. Made by KBS (Korean Broadcasting System). Watch it yourself. I've been traing Kyokushin for over 20 years and no one, not the students or the shihans ever thought Oyama was anything other than a korean living in japan. Are you a Kyokushin student? What 'lies' do you think are being 'fed'?
@aldridge1 This is what you said initially: "Oyama was extremely angry that the Korean media said he was a Tae Kyon master because it was not true"
This is what the vid claims: "However, Chae Bae Dal tried his hardest not to show his disappointment."
If this doesn't prove your biased against Koreans I give up. The funny thing is the documentary your referring to is very pro Korean and I bet that's the only statement you believe in the whole film. You've been brainwashed for 20 years.
@Urfism 'Oyama was extremely angry that the Korean media said he was a Tae Kyon master because it was not true' yes I said that because this footage documentary is not my only source of this information. I am not biased against Koreans. Why would I be biased against Koreans? Of course hes Korean and people who say he isn't are fools. You miss the point. Oyama only trained Korean wrestling as a child and did not study Tae Kyon. Oyama was formally graded in japanese martial arts
@aldridge1 And no I'm not a kyokushin student, what does it matter? I just like history from both aspects and I make my own conclusions.
Lastly, you are obviously not too familar with the Oyama debate. For many many years people made fun of the fact that Oyama was Korean-born. Up until 5 years ago forums and comments like these were filled with ignorants statements regarding Oyama's birth.
@Urfism Part of being a Kyokushin student is knowing the history of the style including the history Sosai and the influences that created Kyokushin. Who cares if clowns on forums say he wasn't Korean? I bet they aren't kyokushin students or instructors. Oyama was Korean but learned mostly japanese martial arts. Kyokushin does not come from tae kwon do or tae keon as some say. This is fact as taught by Oyama himself. Kyokushin is above petty racism.
now i can see how oyama sosai's kyokushin karate and taekwondo's fighting technique.those taekwondo guys exchanged kicks and blocked and kicks,yet mas oyama sosai stay put moves back and forth,and finally deliver mawashigeri to body.
i want to see more of mas oyama and taekwondo clips.
really cool footage, hadn't seen before. thanks for posting, always a privilege to see the founders doing their art. my respect to mr. oyama and his students.
You think I don't know that? Besides what does him being Korean have to do with Taekwon-do?
Its like saying that every American does Boxing or MMA.
This Korean just happened to create a bad-ass form of Karate, Kyokushin Kaikan which pwnds Taekwon-do (a martial which was influenced by Shotokan karate and Taekkyeon). I used to do Taekwon-do myself, so I know.
@MauriSt0rm main title'king of taekwondo came back to his country'than narrator said'
the world famous 8th black belt king of taekwondo che young yi(oyama sosais korean name) performed special demonstration for korean movie news.che have many dojos across USA,and he demonstrated breathing technique,and breaking technique,he strike down many bulls only own hands,he is king of taekwondo. our taekwondos popularity is spread as far as new york,there is a demonstration in street.
@jobowtackmasterx First of he's very old in this video. Secondly do you really think that you are qualified to judge the technique of anyone let alone one of the greatest masters of all time. With such a short clip. If you knew anything at all then you would be aware that he wasn't doing the techniques as hard or as fast as he possibly could, do to the fact that he was teaching the techniques.
@rojer1103 Rojer-san : Oyama-shi o " samurai dewa nakattato " iikirunowa, sukoshi iisugikamo shiremasen. Tatoeba ita-wari nado " show " ni okeru aruteido no kozaikuwa dono bujutsuka no aida nimo ooku mirareruto omoi masu. Doowa tomoare. Oyama-shi no Nippon Karate no hatten ni taisuru kooken to Kyokushin-kai ga hagukunda takusan no yushuu na karate-ka tachi o mite koosei na hyooka o shi ni ataerunoga datoo kato omoi masu. Ikaga de shooka ?
@rojer1103 Arigatoo gozai masu. Watashi wa Chinese desuga, yooshoo-ji Nihon no Yokohama de sodachi mashita. Oyama-san ni taisuru hyoron wa samazama aruyoo desuga, kono hen de ohiraki to shimashoo. : )
To the gentleman that stated that Gary Alexander trained with Tatsuoa Shimbbuku and not GM Don Nagle is incorrect. "I" di in fact train with the Marines under the tutelage of Don Nagle. When I was in Okinawa I never had time to train as I was always out making landings with the FMF. Best Regards Gary Alexander PS: Complete 50 years history can be found by putting Gary Alexander in the URL for my website.
you guys are so fucking ratared Mas Oyama was not taekwondo he was karate. He never trained in taekwondo he trained in a style of kung fu known as eighteen hands, shotokan karate, and goju ryu. Mas Oyama went to Japan during WW2 and became a Japanese citizen so Kyokushin is not Korean. And taekwondo now days is pussy shit because their always padded up unlike Kyokushin which have nothing but themselves. Know the enemy and you will never fail, Osu.
@norazi your belief is bollox,taekyon includes hardly any hand techs and was incorporated into tkd since the early 50s.This vid is 12 years after tkd was formerly recognised as an art in itself.
What the f**k TKD? It was the same Karate, Kyokushinkaikan style. The author saw the South Korean flag and decided that this is TKD. This is not TKD!!!
oyama masutatsu sosai became 'king of taekwondo' in published article,new papers,and comic books.because korean government doesnt want to tell public in reality he trained japanese karate and he created kyokushin karate in japan and have over 1million students in world wide.i got brainwashed to as a boy i thought takwondo became very popular to world wide,because oyama sosai (korean called him cho bae dal) defeat all the fighters using taekwondo.
@minasz and you think that ppl jumping around with super slow motion was a REAL FIGHTER. get real. the movies you've seen all staged. you fail at life. go get laid
@HiroIndo16 No I dont say this was a real fight, i see the way he moves and jumps like a big fairy then I know enought. This is not the first clip Ive seen from Oyama. Dont talk to me like that cuz I will fuck you up in real life!!
@minasz oh yea? try me. what? you can't find me. why? because i'm in INTERNET right now. oyama birth the most respected style of all time so shut the fuck up you just beat up ppl without debate anything. fail is obvious. go get laid.
this is when oyama went back to his homeland for the first time, he is a karate master but when he arived they anounced him as the taekon king, wich truely upset him but he tried not to show it
Any one who has taken part in a training session of kyokushin would know what this video is all about. those who have not trained with them, just sit on the fence and make your idiot comments...as usual.
One side making idiot comments, the other side calling names. I don't care about either.
You imply that you have a better understanding of what is being presented in the video. I would love to hear what it is. I don't have first hand knowledge of the material and would enjoy learning something new.
Well, for what its worth, I have noticed that genuine karate masters usually fight from a back leaning/defensive stance (kokotsu dachi or neko ashi dachi) and this is what I think he is demonstrating is the sparing part of the film, also look at footage of morio higaonna sensei, Oyama and Higaonna both have Goju Karate backgrounds.The Kata is 'tensho' or flowing hands kata, its a goju kata made popular by Chojun Miyagi Sensei.
Oyama didn't "kill" any bulls with a punch. He wrestled them like any cowboy. Get your facts straight! Once a bull broke it's restraint and Oyama like the rest ran like hell! Bruce Lee was decades ahead of his time. There is a new documentary on him, "How Bruce Lee Changed the world". What did Oyama change? How many people know of him, or modeled themselves after Sifu Lee, the greatest martial artist that ever lived! He studied all the different types of fighting!
Oyama was the more strongest man in the world, today nobody has overcome him. Bruce lee made movies, this is the only diference, 2 great masters but 1 star only. If you dont know what oyama change in the martial art world, you need to study a bit more and stop see movies.
The practioner must learn to complete his mental training and not resort to foul remarks. This shows a lack of proper training in the spiritual. He must learn that though the disagrees, to use such language is not the way! The Japanese bricks used are baked and are not as hard as American bricks.This is fact! To put your faith in the circus trick of brick breaking is not the way! Sifu Lee taught us this among the other great things he passed on to all students of the arts. Free your mind!
Lee revolutionized the martial arts! He beat the greatest Kung Fu masters in China! These masters would have demolished Oyama! Lee didn't study just one way of fighting, but many. He was trained mentally also having studied various philosophies. Oyama was a big fish in a little pond! As for "slicing bricks", Sifu Lee said it best: "a brick doesn't hit back" What a great master of body and mind!
Look, stop letting your hard on for Bruce Lee get in the way of reality. Oyama was different from Lee. Oyama promoted physical toughness, while Lee, physical fitness. He also combined philosophy and martial arts. But Lee, being awesome put his theories to practice and they worked. But Oyama just taught what he knew, and that was how to strike really hard and painful. Yes, a brick doesn't hit back, because it was a demonstration of your strength. Imagine if that was a moving face. Very different
@frankvanqueens 'He beat the greatest Kung Fu masters in China!' Really? Perhaps you could provide a link with reference to ANY fight Lee had against a master in China. Lee was defeated in Hong Kong amateur boxing and when his wing chun failed him in one particular fight he decided it was ineffective and adopted techniques from karate boxing fencing judo etc etc etc. Lee refered to the Chinese arts as 'the classical mess'. Oyama's students include some of the greatest fighters and trainers ever.
Mas Oyama, was a karate master who founded Kyokushinkai, arguably the first and most influential style of full contact karate. He was born Choi Yeong-eui (최영의; 崔永宜), but preferred to be called Choi Bae-dal (최배달; 崔倍達) indicate his Korean ethnicity Zainichi Korean, he spent most of his life living in Japan and eventually became a Japanese citizen while also retaining his Korean citizenship
I think you might not know what your on about there FVQ cause if thats the case then did he refuse to fight Gene Labelle and ali two of the greastest fighters of that era and pretty much since. Cause he knew that labelle would of made an ugly lookin pretzel out him and ali would of taken him out with or two punches. And if oyama even hit lee when he was dreaming that would of been the end of him.
i think your full of shit oyama was with out a doubt the strongest man in that era his fight rarely even lasted 3 min ali was strong and fast but no were near oyama ali and labelle didnt slice bricks in half with hands and besides that lee would have been a great challeger but oyama still would have sweeped him along hell even sonny chiba said so
Great Master Bruce Lee developed his body for martial arts. Oyama was developing like a body builder. It is not the same type of muscle developement. Oyama's was for lifting and impressing people. Lee was for true fighting! Speed and shock power, stamina, quick cat like movements. He couldn't be hit! Fast footwork like a world champion boxer, with the chi power of Kung fu master. Face it, Oyama was great, but no where in the league of Bruce Lee!
Look, both of you guys are both very very wrong. Each was in a league of their own. Their both very different fighters. Lee was more versed in speed and physical fitness, he knew how the body worked and used that to his advantage. That's why he's so fit. While oyama focused on power. Lee knew his body and skills and used that. While Oyama honed his body with rough and intense training.
"Undefeatable" Bruce Lee was the purest form of martial arts that ever extisted! His was truly, "the wayless way". He was not bogged down by the "classical mess". He saw through the nonsense and self delusional fog of many martial artists. Learn from him and be truly free of the chains of so called "tradition"! Real tradition is using the best methods as he did.
Bruce Lee was the greatest martial artist of all time! He was never defeated in death matches, and had kicks and punches that were the most powerful ever recorded! He was lightning quick not only in his punches and kicks, but in his movements. He just couldn't be hit! Yes, strenght is important, but a master like Sifu Lee could defeat opponents no matter how strong or big! Let us honour his memory and learn from his ways. We'll be richer for it!
.. lol im retarted because u cant understand that maybe it didnt make sense because mayybbbee it was a reply lol andd im the stupid 1... righhhtt and now your acting like a tuff guy insulting me when i was explaining it too u hu? hmmm sad internet gangster -.- grow some real balls kid and get some respect just because i cant physically reach u and beat the crap out of u doesn't mean u have to go around acting like a dick, its always lil fags who act like this when there safe, keep it up
Bruce Lee could have demolished Oyama! Lee had speed,more speed than Oyama, and way more power. Big muscles don't relate to martial arts. Otherwised a body builder could defeat anyone! Lee was fluid, look at Kyushin fighters are flat footed and stand beating each other. Not Lee! He moved, stuck, and finished the opponent. Oyama was plodding. Lee could have finished him off in about ten seconds on a bad day!
Actually, a bodybuilder CAN defeat most Kungfu/Wing Chun fighters...
I'm a ground fighter, and I defeated some kung fu fighters without even taking the fight to the ground. Just for being stronger than them (my punches and kicks hurt way more). In other words, you cannot believe everything you see in Bruce Lee movies.
An example of one who doesn't know the Way! Idol of worship of an instructor is NOT the way! You spent so much of your life defending what? If you had spent it on something tangible, maybe you'd be a happy person. It's just another way of fighting, that's all! You never knew him, yet you get so incensed that someone questioned and criticized him? How sad! How pathetic!
Oyama said he was very impressed with early TKD masters who were young and highly skilled teaching the MA in America which is something even he couldn't do.
Not TKD.
Easyandy100 1 month ago
this is taekwondo
MrBardia44 3 months ago
Oyama has good judo but i think Seagal would take him down without a problem.
robb493 3 months ago
@robb493 LAUGH OUT LOUD. Too much media for you apparently, ROFL. Oyama took all the dojo's and martial arts that existed in Japan. He challenged every known school and took their dojo signs. Steven Seagal ROFL!!!!!!!!!!
ShinLa83 3 months ago 2
@robb493 steven seagal......... what?
Kyofighter93 3 months ago
GM Gary Alexander in the 2nd half of video. Sparring, epon kumite and breaking. Osu' this him for being there to make history.
masterraymondtorres 4 months ago
As far as I am aware, Kyokushin is a form of close combat karate; like Goju-ryu and Uechi-Ryu and un-like Shotokan (long range) and Shukokai Shito-ryu (medium - long range).
Now, Tae Kwon Do is clearly a long range system.
I simply cannot see any connection between TSD and Kyokushin.
rimidalvetarak 4 months ago
Check out my sensei, Grand Master John Olivier video..he was a student of oyama. he breaks 2100 lbs of ice. look up his name in google and his video will show up
If anyone lives in southern California and is interested in taking martial arts classes please contact me or go to whisperingsageranch/com
Amelio1 5 months ago
funny... go and watch Kwon jae hwa No Mas Oyama and no one did what he did, and check this one going for 4 dan Nestor Cerda Your Karate is for kinten garden
agla2617 5 months ago
funny
agla2617 5 months ago
Oh and btw, don't spam the youtube page by writing 3-4 times lol. To be honest, I'm barely reading anything you're saying. Karate has many chinese origins and it was influenced by Chinese arts. Chinese arts has been around for thousands of years. It doesn't really change much when it pretty much had everything. Just like Taekwondo or Taekkyon, etc. It has much influence from Japanese arts and came from Chinese origins. Doesn't really change much.
iAnglesClan 6 months ago
Sorry. did not know you were an admin. I apologise for trying to inform you of the truth. Seeing as you are a Kyokushin student I thought you might care if you have your facts straight. Apparently not. Also I never said I met Oyama or his family. I said my SHIHANS were his close friends. One of my Shihans was his english tranlator for years and Oyama and his family would stay with another of my Shihans when in this country. These Shihans knew Oyama and his family very well.
aldridge1 6 months ago
@iAnglesClan So eventhough Korea is right next to China geographically, martial arts skipped from China to Japan and then to Korea.
Freakin wake up already, too much Jap propaganda.
Urfism 5 months ago
@Urfism And why do you think that? Because Japan tried to take the martial arts away from them. Japs always said "their" martial arts is superior, their martial arts is better and they are more skilled, etc. Japs hated China long time ago and so did Chinese people. That's how it "skipped" to Japan and then to Korea. Even today, you will see Chinese people making movies about beating Japan people up.
iAnglesClan 5 months ago
@iAnglesClan "Skipped" to Japan and then to Korea. Sorry bro but you have been indoctrinated. It's like people in Utah saying we had tacos before California.
If you think Chinese people making movies about beating Japs is bad why don't u do some research on the Zaitokukai and other many racist jap groups who even protest tourists openly everyday.
Urfism 5 months ago
@Urfism Uhhh, that's exactly what I just said lol. Japs stole everything and copy everything. Pretty much every Asian country hates Japan. I never said Chinese people making movies about beating Japs is bad. I am actually happy that they are making them lol. Another good Chinese movie about Japan's disrespectful behaviors is IP Man. IP Man is a good movie and they show scenes of beating Japanese people up and showing how disrespectful the Japs were.
iAnglesClan 5 months ago
@iAnglesClan Wrong. Idiot.
ShalKekNemRon 1 week ago
That's not tkd or Taekkyeon...that's common boxing shuffle back and forward, there no dancing type of Taekkyeon here.
hotpopcorncake 6 months ago
He studied Judo and many other things.He studied also Korean arts.For example Kakato geri is from Taekwondo.
gogenyamaguchi90 7 months ago
Hes movements are incredibly smooth looking
jeeaaman 7 months ago
this is not TKD -- it's Taekkyeon
shimmeringreflection 7 months ago
Hwarangdo is the Moo Do (martial art in Korean) made by an ancient Korean country called Shilla about 1,500 years ago. It was imported/modified from China's Shaolin Temple (So Rim Sa) by a revered Korean monk named Won Hyo, who formed an organization called Hwarang to help unify the Korean peninsula then divided into three countries. Hwarangdo became the basis of Tekkyon, Karate and Taekwondo. All Karate Kata/Taekwondo Poom Sae are the descendants of Hwarangdo.
tshk5271221 8 months ago
Strictly speaking, Mas Oyama (Choi Bae Dal or Young Hi)'s style is not Taekwondo, period. His style (Geuk Jin Gong Soo or Kyokushin Karate in Japanese) was combined with traditional Japanese Shotokan Karate with the traditional Korea's Tekkyon/Hwarangdo. No wonder Geuk Jin Gong Soo is the best in the world..
tshk5271221 8 months ago
there is a lot of bullshit being said about the supposed Korean influence in Kyokushin. Yes Oyama was Korean but he never studied Korean arts. He spent his childhood in Manchuria and briefly had lessons from a farmhand in a form of southern Chinese Kempo and was 13 when he went to Japan with zero training in Korean arts. Oyama was extremely angry that the Korean media said he was a Tae Kyon master because it was not true.
aldridge1 7 months ago 15
@aldridge1 What is going on in this video? I'm confused.
MiamiBeachMan 6 months ago
@MiamiBeachMan Oyama returned to Korea and was showing aspects of his style to some Korean martial artists. This footage was shown in Korea with Oyama misrepresented as a Taekeon master. Oyama's family said how upset he was at this as he had no taekeon training and he felt this misrepresentation disrespected his style and the Karate senseis from whom he learnt.
aldridge1 6 months ago
@aldridge1 It could be called Korean arts. Every arts was taken from China so even karate could be considered as Chinese Kung Fu. There's lots of similarities in each arts so that doesn't mean he had zero training in Korean arts. Mas Oyama practiced many arts and studied many things and discovered Kyokushin.
iAnglesClan 6 months ago
@iAnglesClan What we call karate today is much different to its chinese origins. There has been no chinese influence on karate for hundreds of years and in that time Karate has become its own art with many variations. 'It could be called Korean arts' - Why? because Oyama was Korean? Would you call karate american because chuck norris is american? of course not because that would be retarded.Oyama's was only formally trained in Japanese arts.
aldridge1 6 months ago
@aldridge1 Uhm no. Karate was taken from China, period. That's like saying Taekwondo isn't influenced by Karate, but it is. The only reason why I said "it could be called korean arts" is because Mas Oyama didn't ONLY look for karate. He trained mostly by himself through many different arts, not just by karate. Oyama wasn't only formally trained in Japanese arts. He trained in many and developed his own.
iAnglesClan 6 months ago
@iAnglesClan Uhm yes. Karate today is much different from the Okiniwan Nahate and Shurite schools that it came from. Even those Okinnwan Shurite and Nahate forms differ greatly from the southern Chinese Tiger Crane that they came from. Yes they have chinese origins but much changes in 500 hundred years.
aldridge1 6 months ago
@iAnglesClan Also you are wrong about Oyama's training. He Studied Goju, Shotokan and Judo to 4th dan and opened the Oyama dojo in the 50's well after his solo mountain training. During this time many martial artists from varying styles came to train at the Oyama dojo for the jis-sen kumite (full contact). Oyama fought many challenge matches at this time. What worked was absorbed. The Oyama Dojo became Kyokushin in 1957.
aldridge1 6 months ago
@iAnglesClan Kyokushin uses technique from European boxing. Would you call Kyokushin a European art? no.
Kyokushin uses aspects of Muay Thai. Would you call it a Thai style? no.
Also I am not saying Kyokushin has no Korean influence, OYAMA SAID KYOKUSHIN HAD NO KOREAN INFLUENCE!! I have been a student of Kyokushin for 25 years. I know the history of my style better than most. Are you a student of Kyokushin?
aldridge1 6 months ago
@aldridge1 Lol, are you being a smartass with me? Of course it's not a European or a thai art because it uses technique from it. Kyokushin was never a Japanese style/art to begin with. Oyama discovered it by learning many arts and styles and put it as one. It's just like Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do. Jeet Kune Do isn't just Chinese art....Well Jeet Kune Do isn't really a style or a art. JKD is more of a hybrid martial arts system and a life philosophy. Same with Kyokushin.
iAnglesClan 6 months ago
@iAnglesClan No I am not being a smartass with you. I am telling you what the truth is. I do not know where you get your knowledge of Kyokushin or Oyama but what I tell you comes directly from Oyama's family and my Shihans who were close personal friends of Sosai and his family. . You can say it wasn't a japanese art but Oyama said it was and will believe him over you. Why else would he call it BUDO karate? Do not get your info from movies. You did not say. Are you a Kyokushin stident or not?
aldridge1 6 months ago
@aldridge1 I have no idea where YOU get your knowledge of Kyokushin or Yama from. You never even met Mas Oyama or his family in real life so I don't know why you keep repeating that you have. Kyokushin IS a Japanese art but it was never a Japanese style/art to begin with. It was influenced by many different arts and Chinese origins. And yes I am a Kyokushin student. And I will tell you that it isn't "only" a Japanese art. That's like saying TKD is only korean.
iAnglesClan 6 months ago
When did I say it was only Japanese. Dude I'm not saying it is only Japanese.The core of Kyokushin comes from japanese arts and yes other styles have influenced it but you wouldn't call it thai or european because of those influences would you? of course not. This is the same reason we do not call it a korean art. Sosai openly acknowledged Kyokushin's influences and repeatedly said Korean arts weren't amongst those influences. I will not name names to prove a point to you.
aldridge1 6 months ago
@aldridge1 Exactly, that's what I just said lol. I just said Kyokushin is a Japanese art and it was influenced by many different arts and Chinese origins. For example, TKD is traditional korean art but it was influenced by Karate which was influenced by Chinese Gung Fu. That's why I also said it isn't called Thai or European art because it isn't but that doesn't mean that Kyokushin is "only" a Japanese art. That's like saying TKD is "only" a Korean art, but it isn't.
iAnglesClan 6 months ago
@aldridge1 what your saying is bs, just like how everyone was making fun of Koreans for saying Oyama was Korean born 5 years ago.
Urfism 5 months ago
not bs. This very footage can be seen in a korean made documentary about Oyama. In this very documentary Oyamas family recount how sad and dissappointed Oyama was that he had been described on Korean television as a Tae Kyon master. Oyama was pissed at this lie because he had not trained in tae kyon or other Korean arts... And that was said by oyamas family in a korean made documentary. I have heard it myself from my shihans who were oyamas close friends. Who ever said he was not Korean?
aldridge1 5 months ago
@aldridge1 So where is this documentary you are speaking of? In the documentary you mentioned, were these the same family members who denied Oyama about his true Korean heritage? Funny how this documentary is not around anymore....
Oyama would've never been pissed off about anything(especially back then) towards Koreans, bcuz of people like the Ginza Tiger. Show me proof Oyama was pissed off about anything.
Ask your shihans when they found out Oyama was Korean? They've been fed lies.
Urfism 5 months ago
@Urfism (Masutatsu Oyama Doco Part 5 ENG SUB (Founder of Kyokushin) ). Here is the docomentary I speak of. found in 10 seconds. Made by KBS (Korean Broadcasting System). Watch it yourself. I've been traing Kyokushin for over 20 years and no one, not the students or the shihans ever thought Oyama was anything other than a korean living in japan. Are you a Kyokushin student? What 'lies' do you think are being 'fed'?
aldridge1 5 months ago
@aldridge1 This is what you said initially: "Oyama was extremely angry that the Korean media said he was a Tae Kyon master because it was not true"
This is what the vid claims: "However, Chae Bae Dal tried his hardest not to show his disappointment."
If this doesn't prove your biased against Koreans I give up. The funny thing is the documentary your referring to is very pro Korean and I bet that's the only statement you believe in the whole film. You've been brainwashed for 20 years.
Urfism 5 months ago
@Urfism 'Oyama was extremely angry that the Korean media said he was a Tae Kyon master because it was not true' yes I said that because this footage documentary is not my only source of this information. I am not biased against Koreans. Why would I be biased against Koreans? Of course hes Korean and people who say he isn't are fools. You miss the point. Oyama only trained Korean wrestling as a child and did not study Tae Kyon. Oyama was formally graded in japanese martial arts
aldridge1 5 months ago
@aldridge1 You are biased towards Koreans just because they eat dogs
juicespirit 4 months ago
@aldridge1 And no I'm not a kyokushin student, what does it matter? I just like history from both aspects and I make my own conclusions.
Lastly, you are obviously not too familar with the Oyama debate. For many many years people made fun of the fact that Oyama was Korean-born. Up until 5 years ago forums and comments like these were filled with ignorants statements regarding Oyama's birth.
Urfism 5 months ago
@Urfism Part of being a Kyokushin student is knowing the history of the style including the history Sosai and the influences that created Kyokushin. Who cares if clowns on forums say he wasn't Korean? I bet they aren't kyokushin students or instructors. Oyama was Korean but learned mostly japanese martial arts. Kyokushin does not come from tae kwon do or tae keon as some say. This is fact as taught by Oyama himself. Kyokushin is above petty racism.
aldridge1 5 months ago
@aldridge1 And Kyokushin doesn't come from just "Japanese" arts either.
iAnglesClan 5 months ago
@aldridge1 ur entire comment is not true
veshkeat 1 week ago
@veshkeat Which part?
aldridge1 1 week ago
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@aldridge1 "ur entire comment is not true"
read?
veshkeat 1 week ago
omg... martial arts in 1967 look so weak and slow....
PedramVossoughi 8 months ago
@PedramVossoughi Prob the dumbest thing i ever heard. Say that to someone with that training and you would be knocked out
djmelodiousthunk 6 months ago
guys,tkd and kyokushin have many similarities
khairuleven 8 months ago
now i can see how oyama sosai's kyokushin karate and taekwondo's fighting technique.those taekwondo guys exchanged kicks and blocked and kicks,yet mas oyama sosai stay put moves back and forth,and finally deliver mawashigeri to body.
i want to see more of mas oyama and taekwondo clips.
Lee7676 9 months ago
really cool footage, hadn't seen before. thanks for posting, always a privilege to see the founders doing their art. my respect to mr. oyama and his students.
MrByaeger 9 months ago
he is pisun
Uazdan 10 months ago
If he would like to hang a picture on the wall, then he don't need a hammer - his hands are enough.
Stanislaw93 10 months ago
it is not taekwondo, it's karate
isrj01 10 months ago
Mas Oyama and the Taekwon-do noobs. =p
H0tkebab 10 months ago
retard, Oyama is from Korea
makoixxc 10 months ago
@makoixxc
You think I don't know that? Besides what does him being Korean have to do with Taekwon-do?
Its like saying that every American does Boxing or MMA.
This Korean just happened to create a bad-ass form of Karate, Kyokushin Kaikan which pwnds Taekwon-do (a martial which was influenced by Shotokan karate and Taekkyeon). I used to do Taekwon-do myself, so I know.
H0tkebab 10 months ago
Who was the gaijin being shown after Oyama?
amsablan 10 months ago
They all beautiful disciplines, did you know a well trained kick could kill a bear or a lion.
calito0010 1 year ago
CAN SOMEONE TRANSLATE WHAT'S SAID IN THE VIDEO ?
MauriSt0rm 1 year ago
@MauriSt0rm main title'king of taekwondo came back to his country'than narrator said'
the world famous 8th black belt king of taekwondo che young yi(oyama sosais korean name) performed special demonstration for korean movie news.che have many dojos across USA,and he demonstrated breathing technique,and breaking technique,he strike down many bulls only own hands,he is king of taekwondo. our taekwondos popularity is spread as far as new york,there is a demonstration in street.
Lee7676 9 months ago
This is karate.
narunaru1979 1 year ago
LMAO I love the gong noise as he breaks the bricks :).
kuru2k9 1 year ago
00:34 - remind me Bruce Lee movements from time to time =)
twangeste 1 year ago
Not TKD, just old kyokushin
Rnt911 1 year ago
What a great bit of video!!
He starts by showing kata Tensho and then Neko Ashi Dachi.
Notice in the sparring he is doing Gedan geri (to the legs).
jwkungfu1 1 year ago
@jwkungfu1 Yeah, Sosai also invented 'low kicks' for Kyokushin too ;)
c0d24live23 1 year ago
This guy is not good enough in my standards
jobowtackmasterx 1 year ago
@jobowtackmasterx First of he's very old in this video. Secondly do you really think that you are qualified to judge the technique of anyone let alone one of the greatest masters of all time. With such a short clip. If you knew anything at all then you would be aware that he wasn't doing the techniques as hard or as fast as he possibly could, do to the fact that he was teaching the techniques.
SuperBluepurple 1 year ago
@jobowtackmasterx well your standards must be very high then.
Kyofighter93 1 year ago
手で持ったレンガを割る瞬間、数センチ上げといて床面に叩きつけるは、大山館長も
やっていたのか、自然石を割るのと同じだな。ちょっとがっかり
rojer1103 1 year ago
@rojer1103 Hahaha, ita-wari toka renga-wari wa tada no show desu, tozen nanrakashirano trick ga attemo fushigi dewa arimasen.
TheVaccumtube 1 year ago
@TheVaccumtube さん
返信ありがとうございます。
昔日本人は、大山マスタツを最強と思っていましたが、違ったようです。
なぜならこのような小細工をしてるからなのすが、本当はサムライではなかったんですね。
rojer1103 1 year ago
@rojer1103 Rojer-san : Oyama-shi o " samurai dewa nakattato " iikirunowa, sukoshi iisugikamo shiremasen. Tatoeba ita-wari nado " show " ni okeru aruteido no kozaikuwa dono bujutsuka no aida nimo ooku mirareruto omoi masu. Doowa tomoare. Oyama-shi no Nippon Karate no hatten ni taisuru kooken to Kyokushin-kai ga hagukunda takusan no yushuu na karate-ka tachi o mite koosei na hyooka o shi ni ataerunoga datoo kato omoi masu. Ikaga de shooka ?
TheVaccumtube 1 year ago
@TheVaccumtube さんへ
まるで、日本人のような考えをされる方なのでとても驚いていますし、とても嬉しいです。
大山マスタツ氏は空手家として私は、とても偉大な方だと思います。
ただ、私が言いたかったのは、あくまでも偉大な空手家であり、決して、武士道を心に宿した人では無いと言う事です。その詳しい事は控えます。
rojer1103 1 year ago
@rojer1103 Arigatoo gozai masu. Watashi wa Chinese desuga, yooshoo-ji Nihon no Yokohama de sodachi mashita. Oyama-san ni taisuru hyoron wa samazama aruyoo desuga, kono hen de ohiraki to shimashoo. : )
TheVaccumtube 1 year ago
To the gentleman that stated that Gary Alexander trained with Tatsuoa Shimbbuku and not GM Don Nagle is incorrect. "I" di in fact train with the Marines under the tutelage of Don Nagle. When I was in Okinawa I never had time to train as I was always out making landings with the FMF. Best Regards Gary Alexander PS: Complete 50 years history can be found by putting Gary Alexander in the URL for my website.
garyalex2 1 year ago
you guys are so fucking ratared Mas Oyama was not taekwondo he was karate. He never trained in taekwondo he trained in a style of kung fu known as eighteen hands, shotokan karate, and goju ryu. Mas Oyama went to Japan during WW2 and became a Japanese citizen so Kyokushin is not Korean. And taekwondo now days is pussy shit because their always padded up unlike Kyokushin which have nothing but themselves. Know the enemy and you will never fail, Osu.
Ninjamateo 1 year ago 8
@Ninjamateo youre right
freddiego60 1 year ago
@freddiego60 Thank you and plus how many taekwondo guys do you see fighting in K-1 or mma.
Ninjamateo 1 year ago
it's not taekwondo
dpalumbo7 1 year ago
i believe its tekkyeon, not tkd(taekwondo).
norazi 1 year ago
@norazi no it actually is taekwondo, the real one, not the current sport-only.
MIVMiyavi382 1 year ago
@norazi your belief is bollox,taekyon includes hardly any hand techs and was incorporated into tkd since the early 50s.This vid is 12 years after tkd was formerly recognised as an art in itself.
billysue2 1 year ago
Korean Kyokushin Karate: Korean root planted in Japan.
Korean1Pride 1 year ago
i think sonny chiba was better
edlo123 1 year ago
the american is shihan gary alexander who is a master of isshinryu karate not tkd
endofmessage66 1 year ago
YAAAAAAAAAAARGH!! my ears!! - intreresting vid though
freak1215 1 year ago
who cares oyama was an amazing martial artist. i mean come on he fought a bull and chopped it in the head.
jowgafighter777 2 years ago
What the f**k TKD? It was the same Karate, Kyokushinkaikan style. The author saw the South Korean flag and decided that this is TKD. This is not TKD!!!
typingnose 2 years ago
@typingnose
agree, they dont wear TKD uniforms either, i think its just a normal karate class when Oyama was instructing in korea.
FaridYM 1 year ago
@FaridYM
Well, at that time, the uniforms of karate and tkd were the same.
ImIwilliamImI 1 year ago
in south korea back in 1970s to 1993,
oyama masutatsu sosai became 'king of taekwondo' in published article,new papers,and comic books.because korean government doesnt want to tell public in reality he trained japanese karate and he created kyokushin karate in japan and have over 1million students in world wide.i got brainwashed to as a boy i thought takwondo became very popular to world wide,because oyama sosai (korean called him cho bae dal) defeat all the fighters using taekwondo.
Lee7676 1 year ago
i just love the music in it lmao
spupapi 2 years ago
VERY VERY GOOD
turleszzz 2 years ago
that is so loud!!!
idonotknowit 2 years ago 3
agreed
spupapi 2 years ago
I love Oyama's defence against a kick - to jump away like a big fairy! Hilarious!
bigdaddycoolshoes 2 years ago 3
@bigdaddycoolshoes Yeah what the F was that??!! I vd seen it know a hundered times..its so fake and hilarious. He s no real fighter.
minasz 1 year ago
@minasz and you think that ppl jumping around with super slow motion was a REAL FIGHTER. get real. the movies you've seen all staged. you fail at life. go get laid
HiroIndo16 1 year ago
@HiroIndo16 No I dont say this was a real fight, i see the way he moves and jumps like a big fairy then I know enought. This is not the first clip Ive seen from Oyama. Dont talk to me like that cuz I will fuck you up in real life!!
minasz 1 year ago
@minasz oh yea? try me. what? you can't find me. why? because i'm in INTERNET right now. oyama birth the most respected style of all time so shut the fuck up you just beat up ppl without debate anything. fail is obvious. go get laid.
HiroIndo16 1 year ago
@HiroIndo16 Child!
minasz 1 year ago
@minasz that's called trolling, child.
HiroIndo16 1 year ago
@HiroIndo16 whahaha go watch queen elizabeth whahahah
minasz 1 year ago
@minasz no elizabeth queen, just queen. u suck. wahahah
HiroIndo16 1 year ago
MASTER OYAMA BORN IN KOREA
negoni08 2 years ago 27
@negoni08 he's not only born in korea he is actually korean :D
MIVMiyavi382 1 year ago
@negoni08 i dont care lol
bishketflux 7 months ago
MAS WAS THE MAN!!!!!!!
macysgt 2 years ago
Haha, 0:21...
'Boys boys, no no no no!! Now c'mon, the way I showed you, stop dancing!'
ronniedeenwho 2 years ago
that last guy looks like hitler
jonnnyharsh 2 years ago 3
this is when oyama went back to his homeland for the first time, he is a karate master but when he arived they anounced him as the taekon king, wich truely upset him but he tried not to show it
mustangdriven2ex 2 years ago
There are interviews where he says that he was excited to find Koreans practicing and teaching high level MA and was excited to see it for himself.
melonbarmonster 2 years ago
oyama is doing like kung fu or jkd...
weichiveli 2 years ago
true
pinkyruletheworld 2 years ago
I'm a tkd lover, and its nice to see a martial arts leyend as oyama sharing his knowledge...
Big up Oyama!!!!
DrSandoKhan 2 years ago
Any one who has taken part in a training session of kyokushin would know what this video is all about. those who have not trained with them, just sit on the fence and make your idiot comments...as usual.
battlecircus10 2 years ago 3
One side making idiot comments, the other side calling names. I don't care about either.
You imply that you have a better understanding of what is being presented in the video. I would love to hear what it is. I don't have first hand knowledge of the material and would enjoy learning something new.
stephnnie 2 years ago
Just go along to one of the training sessions preferably in Japan.
battlecircus10 2 years ago
Well, for what its worth, I have noticed that genuine karate masters usually fight from a back leaning/defensive stance (kokotsu dachi or neko ashi dachi) and this is what I think he is demonstrating is the sparing part of the film, also look at footage of morio higaonna sensei, Oyama and Higaonna both have Goju Karate backgrounds.The Kata is 'tensho' or flowing hands kata, its a goju kata made popular by Chojun Miyagi Sensei.
darrenlad 2 years ago 2
This isn't taekwondo, this is kyokushin karate.
Samperor 2 years ago
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Oyama didn't "kill" any bulls with a punch. He wrestled them like any cowboy. Get your facts straight! Once a bull broke it's restraint and Oyama like the rest ran like hell! Bruce Lee was decades ahead of his time. There is a new documentary on him, "How Bruce Lee Changed the world". What did Oyama change? How many people know of him, or modeled themselves after Sifu Lee, the greatest martial artist that ever lived! He studied all the different types of fighting!
frankvanqueens 2 years ago
you watch too many damn kung fu movies.
Pressurecorpus14 2 years ago 12
correct. what a prick you turned out to be "queenie"
battlecircus10 2 years ago
you know man bruce lee and oyama were legends both but the problem with oyama was that he didn't make any movies(like bruce lee).
thugriderforlife 2 years ago
Oyama was the more strongest man in the world, today nobody has overcome him. Bruce lee made movies, this is the only diference, 2 great masters but 1 star only. If you dont know what oyama change in the martial art world, you need to study a bit more and stop see movies.
gfsjdhgfjsdhgfjhdsgf 2 years ago
The practioner must learn to complete his mental training and not resort to foul remarks. This shows a lack of proper training in the spiritual. He must learn that though the disagrees, to use such language is not the way! The Japanese bricks used are baked and are not as hard as American bricks.This is fact! To put your faith in the circus trick of brick breaking is not the way! Sifu Lee taught us this among the other great things he passed on to all students of the arts. Free your mind!
frankvanqueens 2 years ago
Lee revolutionized the martial arts! He beat the greatest Kung Fu masters in China! These masters would have demolished Oyama! Lee didn't study just one way of fighting, but many. He was trained mentally also having studied various philosophies. Oyama was a big fish in a little pond! As for "slicing bricks", Sifu Lee said it best: "a brick doesn't hit back" What a great master of body and mind!
frankvanqueens 2 years ago
who were the greatest Kung Fu masters in China that he beat?
seadawg93 2 years ago
Look, stop letting your hard on for Bruce Lee get in the way of reality. Oyama was different from Lee. Oyama promoted physical toughness, while Lee, physical fitness. He also combined philosophy and martial arts. But Lee, being awesome put his theories to practice and they worked. But Oyama just taught what he knew, and that was how to strike really hard and painful. Yes, a brick doesn't hit back, because it was a demonstration of your strength. Imagine if that was a moving face. Very different
tissuekins 2 years ago 3
@frankvanqueens 'He beat the greatest Kung Fu masters in China!' Really? Perhaps you could provide a link with reference to ANY fight Lee had against a master in China. Lee was defeated in Hong Kong amateur boxing and when his wing chun failed him in one particular fight he decided it was ineffective and adopted techniques from karate boxing fencing judo etc etc etc. Lee refered to the Chinese arts as 'the classical mess'. Oyama's students include some of the greatest fighters and trainers ever.
aldridge1 11 months ago
Mas Oyama, was a karate master who founded Kyokushinkai, arguably the first and most influential style of full contact karate. He was born Choi Yeong-eui (최영의; 崔永宜), but preferred to be called Choi Bae-dal (최배달; 崔倍達) indicate his Korean ethnicity Zainichi Korean, he spent most of his life living in Japan and eventually became a Japanese citizen while also retaining his Korean citizenship
hth10092000 2 years ago 2
I think you might not know what your on about there FVQ cause if thats the case then did he refuse to fight Gene Labelle and ali two of the greastest fighters of that era and pretty much since. Cause he knew that labelle would of made an ugly lookin pretzel out him and ali would of taken him out with or two punches. And if oyama even hit lee when he was dreaming that would of been the end of him.
ElCapitan875 2 years ago
i think your full of shit oyama was with out a doubt the strongest man in that era his fight rarely even lasted 3 min ali was strong and fast but no were near oyama ali and labelle didnt slice bricks in half with hands and besides that lee would have been a great challeger but oyama still would have sweeped him along hell even sonny chiba said so
Vangardthedrifter 2 years ago
I bet the lesson was how TKD is worthless as a Martial Art.
OSU!
Versus2000 2 years ago
Great Master Bruce Lee developed his body for martial arts. Oyama was developing like a body builder. It is not the same type of muscle developement. Oyama's was for lifting and impressing people. Lee was for true fighting! Speed and shock power, stamina, quick cat like movements. He couldn't be hit! Fast footwork like a world champion boxer, with the chi power of Kung fu master. Face it, Oyama was great, but no where in the league of Bruce Lee!
frankvanqueens 2 years ago
thats a load of shit oyama never even lost a match he was flawless and full of power your just some die hard lee fan
Vangardthedrifter 2 years ago
Look, both of you guys are both very very wrong. Each was in a league of their own. Their both very different fighters. Lee was more versed in speed and physical fitness, he knew how the body worked and used that to his advantage. That's why he's so fit. While oyama focused on power. Lee knew his body and skills and used that. While Oyama honed his body with rough and intense training.
tissuekins 2 years ago 3
whatever thats how i feel and thats it
Vangardthedrifter 2 years ago
No one could defeat Master Oyama during his golden era!
He fought with judoka, wrestlers, a kung fu master, and he never lost against them.
cassavaeater 2 years ago
Mas Oyama may have fought them but they could have been crap... you never know
Buntou19 2 years ago
"Undefeatable" Bruce Lee was the purest form of martial arts that ever extisted! His was truly, "the wayless way". He was not bogged down by the "classical mess". He saw through the nonsense and self delusional fog of many martial artists. Learn from him and be truly free of the chains of so called "tradition"! Real tradition is using the best methods as he did.
frankvanqueens 2 years ago
Bruce Lee was the greatest martial artist of all time! He was never defeated in death matches, and had kicks and punches that were the most powerful ever recorded! He was lightning quick not only in his punches and kicks, but in his movements. He just couldn't be hit! Yes, strenght is important, but a master like Sifu Lee could defeat opponents no matter how strong or big! Let us honour his memory and learn from his ways. We'll be richer for it!
frankvanqueens 2 years ago
dont think that anyone is undeafitable
Kr33t0s 2 years ago
"dont think that anyone is undeafitable"--well said
bvindh 2 years ago
fedor is
nohj1000000 2 years ago
"fedor is"--fedor claimed that or you are saying that? I bet its not fedor!!
bvindh 2 years ago
every 1 claims that.. O.O.. besides suckers... and fedor cos hes a very humble person.. w8 did u even no wat i was saying that too? lol
nohj1000000 2 years ago
"w8 did u even no wat i was saying that too? lol "--no! i do not have psychic abilities
bvindh 2 years ago
it was a reply sily boi to some 1 who said no 1 was unbreakable
nohj1000000 2 years ago
"it was a reply sily boi to some 1 who said no 1 was unbreakable"--my bad! didn't realize you were a retard.
but seriously, "unbreakable"?? are you illiterate too?
bvindh 2 years ago
.. lol im retarted because u cant understand that maybe it didnt make sense because mayybbbee it was a reply lol andd im the stupid 1... righhhtt and now your acting like a tuff guy insulting me when i was explaining it too u hu? hmmm sad internet gangster -.- grow some real balls kid and get some respect just because i cant physically reach u and beat the crap out of u doesn't mean u have to go around acting like a dick, its always lil fags who act like this when there safe, keep it up
nohj1000000 2 years ago
hmmm...considering all the gibberish posted, nohj1000000 is...retarded...definitely
bvindh 2 years ago
OSS !
MasOyama10dan 2 years ago
lee was a movie star, Oyama was the greatest fighter...lee could hurt himself by trying to punch Oyama lol...
arucardseito 2 years ago
Bruce Lee could have demolished Oyama! Lee had speed,more speed than Oyama, and way more power. Big muscles don't relate to martial arts. Otherwised a body builder could defeat anyone! Lee was fluid, look at Kyushin fighters are flat footed and stand beating each other. Not Lee! He moved, stuck, and finished the opponent. Oyama was plodding. Lee could have finished him off in about ten seconds on a bad day!
frankvanqueens 2 years ago
Actually, a bodybuilder CAN defeat most Kungfu/Wing Chun fighters...
I'm a ground fighter, and I defeated some kung fu fighters without even taking the fight to the ground. Just for being stronger than them (my punches and kicks hurt way more). In other words, you cannot believe everything you see in Bruce Lee movies.
Coolandstressing 2 years ago
bruce lee didn't kill 3 bulls with one hit each
no, not a K.O., a KILL
1 hit KILL, to a fuckin BULL lol
yoshi1825 2 years ago
bruce lee was a legend to if you didn't personally
know him don't talk about him and he's dead man let him rest with his honour.
thugriderforlife 2 years ago
OSS !
MasOyama10dan 2 years ago
An example of one who doesn't know the Way! Idol of worship of an instructor is NOT the way! You spent so much of your life defending what? If you had spent it on something tangible, maybe you'd be a happy person. It's just another way of fighting, that's all! You never knew him, yet you get so incensed that someone questioned and criticized him? How sad! How pathetic!
frankvanqueens 2 years ago
Oyama said he was very impressed with early TKD masters who were young and highly skilled teaching the MA in America which is something even he couldn't do.
melonbarmonster 2 years ago
oh and he also studied taekkyon , father of taekwondo.
serpentphoenix 2 years ago
Hes using more Shotokan in this video because thats what Taekwondo originated from and also from Taekyon
mitchx69 2 years ago
there's no origin for any of these asian ma's. they're all conglomerations of pre-existing styles.
melonbarmonster 2 years ago
ALDRIDGE 1 YOU ARE A IDIOT!
PakDaeHan 3 years ago
well tough cookie, he;s actually telling the truth
tchkaine 2 years ago
Korean Kyokushin. Korean root planted in Japan.
Korean1God 3 years ago
i think hapkido
hth10092000 3 years ago
Oyama Korean Name 崔永宜 1922.6.4 ~ 1994.4.26
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jtoni1 3 years ago