I saw a documentary on the History channel about Irish Americans. It mentioned that when the Civil War ended, soldiers of the Confederacy told those of the Union something like this, "You only won because you had more Irish than we did."
Every Irishman who fought on behalf of the Confederacy should have been ashamed of themselves; they denounce the barbarity of the English and men like Cromwell but fought to defend a confederacy which held millions of people in bondage.
@lordcornwallis2 No he's not. The Roman Catholic church, big shocker, originated in Rome which is in Italy. Therefore god would be Roman / Italian if he is any race.
@ajm267 Europe was referred to as Christendom before the name Europe came about. There is no "original branch" they both existed at the same time but split. Orthodox obviously spreading East and Christianity spreading West into Europe, hence the name "Christendom."
@lordcornwallis2 I've read the history of the "English" you talk about, and it seems to me they tried to conquer the world with many of the same tactics Hitler used in WW2. In fact they had many defeats when they had no conscripts or allies to speak of. If England was such a great nation why the hell can't they get out of Ireland & Scotland, and a few other places they are not welcome?
Real Americans are Indians? Phahaha what a low educated puppet LOL better keep up with modern day archeological findings LOL our race "Europids" have been here adn left and came back time and again for tens of thousands of years LOL love science it makes fools like that look stupid as they truly are Phahaha
@fuckingmaracas Moron! You Speak English, not american and your made up of everyone whi dared to dream from across the planet, allyou had to do is wipe out the indigenouse peoples and the place is yours! when in gangs of new yourk they say natives its not like white settlers sprouted there!
@fuckingmaracas Hardly It was a bunch of anglo americans being killed by actual anglos who where both killing the real native americans.The irish and italians came and worked and built up many of the east coast cities.I a'm irish and i not offended all i see is a pathetic ignorant comment from an english wannabe im irish and im more english than you :D REAL AMERICANS-ARE THE INDIANS.
@fuckingmaracas Well we got rid of the worst problem in the revolutionary war, when we sent the English packing, any race or nationality has since been an improvement over them.
@travhank1 But it was the French that got rid of us in America, infact they did us a favour as we then went to India and got filthy rich, more so than we ever could through America.
My wonderful Irish ancestors have managed to pick the losing side of every war they've entered, so maybe they should keep the peace. But what is the tune? It must be an earlier Irish folk song; it was the music of the former state song of Washington, "Acres of Clams".
@irishrogue61mak2 Why do you call your self Irish? you are nothing of the sort, over 30,000 Irish Catholics volunteered & fought for the South, not a single planter regiment from occupied Ulster joined up, learn before posting online you loyalist retard.
@irishrogue61mak2 don´t talk rubbish. what abbout the french, italian and spanish confederate brigades. Christians died on both sides, jews and masonics were the winners.
Irish rogue thats bullshit know yoir full facts . I worked for 4 years In the Collins Museum. This sectarian shit is a insult to all the dead Irish who fought on both sides.
The Irish only fought for the North because they were conscripted many deserted and fought for the South and then you have the San Patricios who fought and died for Mexico
@tower2spire1 San Patricios deserted and fought for Mexico because they couldn't stand to fight against fellow Catholics. Plenty of Irishmen fought for the Confederacy during the civil war...
Ignore "covered express" this is one of his many fake accounts, he spends his whole time trolling through Irish videos posting anti-Irish filth on them, he is convinced he is some sort of Scottish calvinist soldier on a mission against Irish "popery".
He feels the need to vent out aggression on line through a series of fake accounts & anonymity, he displays all the characteristics of paranoid schizophrenia. this is similar to anders behring breivik, he is insane & needs help.
@coveredexpress No your not Irish, if you had a brain & watched the video you will see that is was the Catholic Irish who fought for the confederacy, over 30,000 Irish Catholics volunteered for the South, now I challenge you to name a single Ulster-Scot regiment raised in Ulster or Scotland during the civil war. You cant because there was none you loyalist twit.
Wolftone was a protestant the starting point of groups like the IRB/IRA. Religion has nothing to with being Irish its the most stupid thing I ever heard of. Faith is just one of many "tools" that is used to divide people probably the best card to play in a war. I see myself as an Irish-Catholic and always an Irishman first !
Religion has become just as much of a curse to the Irish than a blessing, it has clouded national aspirations & has turned good neighbours & friends into crazy animals. Having said that, I personally feel more closer with the baptist tradition more so than Rome, in truth I have grown to despise the link for which we were dis-possesed during the plantations, slaughtered, oppressed & eventually betrayed by Rome itself.
@TheUlsterprotestant The United Irishmen? all of the leaders were Protestant, all of them, Tone, Tandy etc. later on Emmett etc..Sam Maguire founder of GAA, Protestant. Douglas Hyde, first president of Ireland, Protestant, founders of the Gaelic League, Protestant. I could go on but running out of room.
Irish Republicanism/Nationalism was founded & built up by Irish Protestants, this is reality.
@gespb32 i know its true what you say, there were many prods that didnt want to stay under british rule but there were also many irish catholics who wanted to stay british aswell, what you could call traitors to each others cause, ive served with the royal irish and some the lads were from the republic some of whom would liked to have been part of great britan,
@TheUlsterprotestant I meet some lads who left the Eastern Command, I.D.F. who joined the B.A. professional soldiers arent held back by stereo-types, which is good, old allegiances are changing with the way Europe is going, Britain is a great country I know that, we have to solve partition first, I dont have all the answers but a United Ireland along the lines of the United States is ideal for all, maybe also a "confederacy" with Britain? everything will be on the table when the time comes.
@blacklion1798 well none of mine in living memory all my family have been security forces from the U.D.R, R.I.R, R.U.C, P.S.N.I, B-Specials. even my great great granda was 1 of the original 1912 U.V.F before he went to war with the 9th Battalion Royal Irish Fusilers, but if i maybe went back far enough i might find 1 or 2, but i know that there are plenty on both sides
@TheUlsterprotestant Ignore that "heretic"guy, he does not seem to be Irish at all. if he is, he has no understanding of his own history, no Irish man would claim what he just did.
Why in every song that has to do with the civil war do we have to start arguments. Arguments about religion and slavery mostly. This song was not posted so people could argue over the internet about who is right and who is wrong its posted so we can listen to music, plain and simple.
we stottish are celltic and hate the english and love the irish eny 1 wont to diss celts cum to scottland and my grate unkle was 2nd in comand of SF .
@blacklion1798 Thank you for the information.No disrespect is intended to you or any man that fought for justice.But I still hold without reservation that to be Irish is to be Catholic
@Archangelatis All due respect, I am Gaelic Catholic, our leaders who gave us modern Irish nationalism were all Protestant, there were many Catholic traitors to our people & cause for self-determination, at one time our leaders in this noble cause were Protestant Irish, at one time we were all Irish Nationalists, regardless of religion, Protestant, Catholic & Dissenter.
Different faiths & groups, Gaelic Irish, Anglo-Irish, Ulster Scotch Irish, but all Irish.
@gespb32 The defining factor of Irish nationalism is Catholicism.If you want to just call your self Irish for sentimental reasons it does'nt matter,But if you want to BE Irish,then that means converting to Catholicism.I understood this after reading the book;My Traitor's Heart, by Rian Malan.about a white South African that honestly came to terms with what being an African means and is.Please read the book.
@Archangelatis What you have stated is one of the most crazy statements I have ever read about Irish people online, I am Irish, Gaelic by ethnicity, Catholic by faith however you need to realise that Rome screwed us over more so than Britian the initial English invasion to Ireland had Papal approval, William of Orange was led into battle by pipers from the Pope in Rome against those who defended the "church" here.
Initially we were closer to Orthodoxy rather than Rome.
@TheOldirishladdie lol cause we been argueing and killing each other over it for hunderds of years, and will probably alwys argue over it but hopefuli no more killings
there many protestant irish who emigrated at this time aswell though esp during the famine it didnt care what religon u were the hunger affected both sides an both sides were forced to leave, some of my relatives left during that time an setled in virgina fought for the south aswell. the main point is that they joind the irish regiments both prod an catholic to fight for there new home, im proud to have relatives who wore the grey,
@TheUlsterprotestant That maybe but the vast majority who left Ireland at this time were Irish Catholics this proved from the records of the time, listen to the lyrics video, the insignia of the Irish brigades including the Alabama "Emerald Guards" were distinctly Catholic & Nationalist, to suggest otherwise is to fly in the face of historical reality.
The Irish Catholics people were only accepted after the typical bravery they displayed throughout the battlefields of the north & south.
To all the Loyalists who are posting here on this video rubbish about my people, I issue one challenge to you all, just one, name a single "scottish" regiment raised during the civil war who fought for the south, you cant because it does not exist.
Get off the videos dedicated to the brave Irish men who fought & died for the South.Or at least upload one dedicated to the "alleged" achievements of your own ilk.
@gespb32 you know what siryou are a bigot i have pointed out that both prods an catholics fought for the south but u r bloody narrow minded an can see that u have sumthingh against the irish protestants an will not budge from the point, the next thing you will say is that there were never any protestants who fought for irish freedom and independance
@TheUlsterprotestant Excuse me Sir! I am no bigot, I am not the one with a video of people singing anti-Irish Catholic "songs" marching through Catholic areas intimidating the local residents en masse & I never brought up the subject of Irish Independance I am explaining the contribution of Irish Catholic people during the American civil war we were not accepted there before the war but the gallantry of those men earned acceptance after places such as "Getysburg" & "Fredricksburg".
@gespb32 ah so u were on my page lol maybe u will recognise that tune as a song of the confederacy an im trying to say that there were irish protestants fighting for the C.S.A an you can not seem to even consider the point, i apreciate the heritage of both sides an acknowledge there achivements and faults but you can only see one point,
@TheUlsterprotestant The people you describe were planter people who never considered themselves Irish, they migrated before & during the American revolution, the actual "Irish" people came afterwards, just before, during & after the American civil war.
I accept your people arrived during the earlier stages of the American story, my people, the native Irish came during their civil war. Both groups distinguished themselves in their own times & to-day still.
@heretic154 im not claimingt to be irish im a british citizen and live in N.Ireland and proud of it, what im stateing in that coment tere were protestants who fought for irish freedom and considerd themselves to be irish
@TheUlsterprotestant very true irish republicanism is often portrayed as sectarian when in fact the original republican were a mix of all Irishmen th.e goal being to unite protestant catholic and dissenter
@tecphobe yes the original republican movemen the united irishment was not a secterian movement, but the republican movement now IRA/CIRA/PIRA is a secterian based campagin,
@BigCheese462 The Irish Catholics formed many regiments in the south they were forced to leave Ireland during the famine, they formed the Alabama "Emerald Guards" & the 1st Virgina regiment, can you name one "scottish" regiment? or "planter/scot" regiment? you cant because they did not exist.
The south was made up of other ethnic groups not just scottish you fool.
there were more irish protestants that fought for the confederacy than catholics people seem to think if your from ireland your a bloody catholic not true. dureing the famine it was not just the catholics that emagrated to america i had family that setled in virgina an fought for the south an a lot of the souths generals were of irish protestant decent stonewall jackson, bedford forest to name just 2. there also would have been people of sotish english welsh decent fighting on both sides
@TheUlsterprotestant There was not a single "planter" regiment raised from occupied Ulster during the civil war in America, not one, stop trying to hijack our heritage like you try to hijack Ulster, you are NOT an Ulster man, your Scottish/British, the Irish Catholics formed many units, for example, 1st Irish Battalion, Virginia Infantry, 8th Alabama volunteer Infantry "Emerald Guards" these Units were exclusively Irish Catholic who came to America during the famine.
@gespb32 the irish protestants formed up them regiments along with irish catholics but am saying there were more irish prods in the south than irish catholics. were as in the north there were more irish catholics who formed regiment like the 69th an so on. an by the way i am an ulster man for i live in the province of ulster. but i am also so a british citizen an proud to be 1.
@TheUlsterprotestant Wrong yet again, you twist historical fact to suit your pseudo vision of history, your "ilk" went to America during the initial British settlements of the South along with the French, Spanish etc there is not a historian alive to-day who dispute that the Irish regiments were Irish Catholics & strongly nationalist.
Those units I mentioned were entirely Irish Catholic, listen to the lyris of this song which you clearly havent & no your not an Ulster man, your a foreigner.
@gespb32 the irish catholics are romantasised far to much much threwout history an the contrbitions of the irish protestants overshadowed esp in the civil war were they were the majority in the south, im sayn there were catholics that fought for the south to but u r far to bloody stuborn to even see that point. and were excactly in the world r u from to call me a fucking forginer in my own country
@TheUlsterprotestant You are not from Ulster, I am an Ulster man, the Gaels are the natives of Ulster, you "lot" emigrated here in the 1600s, you have tried your best to destroy the native Gaelic Ulster culture & people but have failed, you are British & will never be considered as Ulster people because you simply are not.
You wish to have it both ways, to be a seperate country but still recognised as an Ulsterman, hilarious! also this video is dedicated to the Irish who fought for the C.S.A.
@TypingTreeFrog Over 80,000 Irish Catholics voluntereed & fought for the Confederacy & over 100,000 fought for the Union, I have seen your comments on other Irish videos, your a silly little bigot, also learn how to put a sentence together, its "My roots are Scottish" not "my roots are scots".
How many "Scottish" regiments fought for the Confederacy? name the "scottish" regiments who fought for the South, I know you wont but I will:
@TypingTreeFrog Scots are Irish by decent, the name Scotland comes from the Irish "Scottie" tribe who invaded the north of Britain. Ulster Scots are not the same as Scottish and would not have been around in great numbers during the civil war even in Ireland.
a lot of them mite have joined irish regiments but they were mainly ulster-scot or protestants to some. stonewalls family were ofr that descent and were from my home town/local area of loughgal.
bagies your a twat. look up your history books the confederate army was dominated by ulster scots . irish catholics where an insignificent lot laddie . stonewall jackson a true ulster scot
@TheTwollocks listen here dick head we won the war of independence and got our country so fuck u dick head and we are still fighting 900 year and still strong
@TheTwollocks we are still fighting..... what fighting is going on in ulster at the moment .. ZERO... DONT FORGET TO HAVE A LOOK AT MY VIDEO I HAVE UP OF CROMWELL.... in one battle 100 english dead and thousands of irish catholics.... lol... the irish catholics were humiliated lol lol lol lol
@TheTwollocks hey so wat r u doing here, get out and kiss an english men ass, the irish catholic fought for freedom everywhere they stablish, and u? just like ur anglesaxon bosses raping and invading.. typical of ppl like u kid.
@gespb32 Well said, they were indeed valiant in spirit WHEN and I do emphasize when, their english masters backed them up. Lowly quislings. We have pride, they have shame.
@TheTwollocks Never won a war... The Irish beat the British whilst the latter was at the pinnacle of its eempire. Imagine that a few good men from the bogs taking down a war machine. We're the baddest island on the world map, we can't be matched.
I assume that in that 80,000 you're counting a majority of Ulster/Scots/Plantation Irish. Which in reality would be the majority of the population of the South.
@PatsGrandson No I am counting the actual number of Irish Catholics who fought for the South. who left Ireland during the famine, who without resorces & aid were forced by the occupying government to leave their own homes through foreign "british" genocide.
Plantation "scots" in the N.E. of Ireland are not Irish in any way, never were & never will be.
the civil war wasn't about what religion or what country you came from.it was about a way of life . it was not just an irish tradegy . if that's your argument then the same could be said of the large german,dutch and other nationalities who fought against each other including the ulster scots who were so large in number they could have made up countless brigades but did not because they were first and foremost american's and were confident in that to have no need to label themselves.
@coveredexpress Thats Great But this song is called Kelly's Irish Brigade and not Kellys Scottish Brigade. We are celebrating the Irish who fought on the side of the south. Not disputing that mostly the Irish fought for the north. And what makes it a tragedy.. Is that many a time Irish North and South Fought against each other. A civil war within a Civil war...
david1966dc let's get something straight there never was a kelly's irish brigade on the confederate side, 2 men and a dog more like. like the war of independance the people of south came from scot's irish stock and other protestant denominations.
the whole conflict of this war was about states rights vs. imperialism and unfortunately the empire won. It was no civil war, it was a desperate war of independance just like when the colonies wanted independance from england.
@coveredexpress No one is disputed that the irish mostly fought on the side of the north.... But this song is remembering those irish who fought for the south thats all.. Over 40000 did fight for the south. and maybe many more ulster scots fought for the south. But thats not what this is about.
Over 40,000 irish not ulster scots fought for the confederacy,the Emmet Guards of Mobile, Alabama; the Southern Celts and St. Mary’s Volunteers of the 13th Louisiana; the Irish Volunteers of the 5th Georgia; the O’Connell Guards of the 17th Virginia; the Emerald Guards of the 9th Louisiana; the Sarsfield Rangers of the 7th Louisiana—to name just a few of the more than 45 distinctly Irish companies.
Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the War; will be impressed by all the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision. -General Pat Cleburne, CSA
there where irish on both sides, religion had little to do with it, it basically came down to where they loyal to the northern goverment or where they for freedom, many went with freedom just out of the rebel spirt of the scots and irish, think about it, the english have oppressed you for so long and you come here, it is entirely possible some chose the south simply because they have wanted to fight for freedom for so long and they havent been able to
@gmsm520 Correct and the 18th Century "United Irishmen" movement is an example of Catholics and Presbyterians in Ireland uniting to form a political movement which eventually rose up against against an oppressive British political establishment. This was political unity regardless of religion. In fact many of the first Irish Republicans (in the proper sense of what being a Republican means) were protestants and many paid with their lives during the 1798 rebellion.
@devinediety This mythic nonsense that the people of the Shankhill were racially different from their neighbours on the Falls was seized upon by loyalist leaders like John McMichael. Loyalism then started to produce propaganda that developed the idea of the Shankhill Picts versus the Falls Irish. You would laugh if you could forget that the Shankhill Butchers actually believed this stuff. All of the people on the Island of Ireland need to move away from these kinds of myths and seek the truth.
@devinediety Finally... note that there is no archaeological, literary, cultural or genetic evidence that credibly distinguishes the Cruithin from any other tribe living in Ireland at that time. In fact the genealogies of the Dál nAraidi, the early medieval name by which the Cruithin called themselves, claimed descent from the Ulaidh tribe.
@devinediety So for example, The 9th Century Irish philosopher and theologian to the Carolingian court "Don Scotus Eriugenia" is an example... his name translates as "John (Don) the Scot (Scotus), Irish-born (Eriu-genia)" i.e. describing him as "John the really Irish Irishman" . Additionally Brian Boru as Irish High King gave himself the title “Imperatur Scottorum”
@devinediety When Dál Riata moved to Argyle, (setting up the kingdoms of Kintyre, Mull and Islay) they brought the the names "Scot" and "Gael" with them... Throughout the middle ages, Scot could refer to people of Ireland or Scotland depending on context.
@devinediety On the origins of the word "Scot". 12th C Lebor na Nuachongbála and 11th C Historia Brittonum referencing Lebor Gabala Erenn cite the Legendary beginnings of Irish history and the Irish race... Scota was the supposed daughter of an Egyptian Pharaoh who depending on source was either the mother or wife of the progenitor of the Irish Race - Geytholos (Goídel Glas) from whom the word Gael (Goidheal) comes. So "Scot" or "Gael" equally referenced the ancient Irish (incl. Dál Riata)
@devinediety On page 217 Sykes (Blood of the Isles) continues, “There has certainly been a substantial settlement at some time from Ireland in the recent past and the Irish infiltration into the west of Scotland is almost certainly the signal of the relocation of the Dal Riada from Ulster to Argyll in the first millennium.”
@devinediety A strong migration of OGAP8 to the Argyll area may be explained by the Dal Riada migration or as Sykes (blood of the Isles) notes “Ar-gael was coined by the kings of Dal Riada for their three colonies – Mull, Islay, and Kintyre peninsula.”
@devinediety The Cruthin cannot credibly be distinguished in Ireland they left no distinct archaeology or literature. We know that in historical times Cruthin followed the Irish Derbhfine system of inheritance rather than the matrilineal system used by the Picts and spoke Irish. Everything people assume or think they know about the Cruthin as distinct in Ireland - is based in mythology and most of all modern fiction, especially the determined political work of British Unionist writer Ian Adamson
@devinediety Recently unionist writers in Northern Ireland, elaborating on this theme, have invented a new form of the ancient ‘returning exile’ myth by which the Ulster‐Scots settlers of the 17th century are seen as the lineal descendants of Cruthin who left for Scotland over a thousand years before. Thus the unionists can claim a sort of primacy over the ‘newcomer’ Gaels. Useful as this new myth might be as a boost to unionist self‐esteem it is totally without historical basis.
@devinediety The early Irish pseudo‐historians regarded the Cruthin as amongst the earliest of the Irish peoples, on a par with the Érainn and earlier than the Goídel.
@devinediety The name Cruthin—cognate with Welsh Prydyn and probably with Roman Britanni—seems simply to be an early borrowing of Priteni, probably a general name for the indigenous peoples of the two islands, first attested in Greek texts of about the 5th century bc. This, rather than any cultural connection, would have been the reason why ancient Irish writers referred to the Picts of Scotland as Cruthin.
@devinediety The Ulster Cruthin were originally located on both sides of the lower River Bann but were pushed east of that river by the Airgialla after the battle of Móin Daire Lothair in ad 563. They shared the overkingship of Ulaid with the Dál Fiatach until the 10th century and it is probably significant that the inauguration place of the Ulaid overking, at Cráeb Tulcha near Glenavy in Co. Antrim, lay in the hinterland between the two ethno‐political groups.
@devinediety The Oxford Companion to Irish History
Cruthin (Cruithin, Cruithni), an apparently ethnic descriptor used of a number of Early Medieval kingdoms, especially in the restricted area of post‐4th‐century Ulaid, where the tuatha so described (for instance Dál nAraidi of mid‐Antrim and Uí Echach Coba of Down) are contrasted with the Érainn‐descended tuatha such as Dál Fiatach and Dál Riata (see ulaid).
@devinediety Do not rely on Ian Adamson or W. A. Hanna as your sources for ancient Irish or Scottish history. Neither are historians but are rather promulgators of modern myths and half-truths in an effort to justify the 17th C plantation of Ulster. They are misinterpreting the writings of medieval Irish pseudo-historians disingenuously twisting them to their own ends and developing their own modern versions of pseudo-history that is devoid of proper historical scholarship and fact... read on
A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. FYI, Many Irish came in old slave ships to New Orleans as well. While the great majority arrived at Boston, NYC, or Canada in log ships, there were still thousands who fought for the South. Ulster Scots were also well-represented in the Union army as they didn't just go into the Southern mountains but also spread up into & out from the Northern mountains. Does the WHISKEY REBELLION ring a bell? San Patricios came up & fought the South. Gaels unite!
@THEEVILPURAH Yep!!! What is it about the Gaels & other people's civil wars?? I love Christy Moore's song about fighting the fascists in Spain! & I love how the Irish switched sides in the Mexican War when they saw it was just another John Bull Sam land grab. They picked on 'em for being Irish & Catholic, etc, so they fought with the Mexican Catholics trying to keep their land. Progeny came N. to fight for Confed. I love how deeply the Gaels are woven into American History, happy or sad. . .
@BigCheese462 ...you are correct....I am from Georgia, and my ancestors, who immigrated to Ireland from Scotland, came from Ireland to the US in the 1700s...and subsequently fought in the Confederate States Army....
Most Irish had to enter via Canada so axiomatically joined the North. They had a sense of injustice of course at the idea of one culture lording it over another. Not that that was always quite clear.
Kelly's brigade was Union, not confederate. Get that traitorous flag off there. LOL it even says the were fighting for the UNION in the damn song, idiots.
@iamlost2 wasnt there 2 irish bigades? for the north and south and in the song it says... didnt those cowadly lincolnites tremble when they meet with the irish brigade. lincolnites=unionists? or am i wrong
Saying the Civil War was about state's rights instead of slavery is like when people meet someone new and suddenly decide they want to break up with their significant other:
You'll give all these deep philosophical reasons about "how we're not right for each other" etc, and the stuff you say is probably even true, but the reason you're breaking up right here and right now is because you want to go fuck someone else.
Oh by all means..let's all wade in with our opinion of something that happened in the 1860"s!
garymichael1950 2 days ago
I saw a documentary on the History channel about Irish Americans. It mentioned that when the Civil War ended, soldiers of the Confederacy told those of the Union something like this, "You only won because you had more Irish than we did."
luckyslimester 5 days ago
Every Irishman who fought on behalf of the Confederacy should have been ashamed of themselves; they denounce the barbarity of the English and men like Cromwell but fought to defend a confederacy which held millions of people in bondage.
RPenta 5 days ago
@RPenta but the war was not started to free the people in bondadge, was started over states rights
TheUlsterprotestant 1 day ago
it's songs like this that make me wish I was Irish!!
thewhorox1 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
native says to an English soldier are ''you gods'' ? ''no were the next best thing were Englishmen'' says the Englishman ! also gods an Englishmen
lordcornwallis2 1 month ago
@lordcornwallis2 No he's not. The Roman Catholic church, big shocker, originated in Rome which is in Italy. Therefore god would be Roman / Italian if he is any race.
redhook4 1 month ago
@redhook4 christendom orginated in israil and roman catholic is not the original branch otherdox is...
ajm267 6 days ago
@ajm267 Europe was referred to as Christendom before the name Europe came about. There is no "original branch" they both existed at the same time but split. Orthodox obviously spreading East and Christianity spreading West into Europe, hence the name "Christendom."
redhook4 5 days ago
@lordcornwallis2 I've read the history of the "English" you talk about, and it seems to me they tried to conquer the world with many of the same tactics Hitler used in WW2. In fact they had many defeats when they had no conscripts or allies to speak of. If England was such a great nation why the hell can't they get out of Ireland & Scotland, and a few other places they are not welcome?
travhank1 3 weeks ago
Real Americans are Indians? Phahaha what a low educated puppet LOL better keep up with modern day archeological findings LOL our race "Europids" have been here adn left and came back time and again for tens of thousands of years LOL love science it makes fools like that look stupid as they truly are Phahaha
Jeffcoat88 1 month ago
America went to shit when the Irish (along with the Italians and the Eastern Europeans) started flooding in.
fuckingmaracas 1 month ago
@fuckingmaracas and what do you think america was made up of before that? you can not blame them
TheUlsterprotestant 1 month ago 2
@fuckingmaracas Moron! You Speak English, not american and your made up of everyone whi dared to dream from across the planet, allyou had to do is wipe out the indigenouse peoples and the place is yours! when in gangs of new yourk they say natives its not like white settlers sprouted there!
ICBMPIRATE2 1 month ago
@fuckingmaracas Hardly It was a bunch of anglo americans being killed by actual anglos who where both killing the real native americans.The irish and italians came and worked and built up many of the east coast cities.I a'm irish and i not offended all i see is a pathetic ignorant comment from an english wannabe im irish and im more english than you :D REAL AMERICANS-ARE THE INDIANS.
JordoF6 1 month ago 2
@fuckingmaracas ha we built defended policed and led your country better look up your history lad
KISSMYARSE88 1 month ago
@fuckingmaracas Well we got rid of the worst problem in the revolutionary war, when we sent the English packing, any race or nationality has since been an improvement over them.
travhank1 3 weeks ago
@travhank1 But it was the French that got rid of us in America, infact they did us a favour as we then went to India and got filthy rich, more so than we ever could through America.
soulofthenorth 2 weeks ago
@irishrogue61mak2 stupid stupid cunt
KISSMYARSE88 1 month ago
My wonderful Irish ancestors have managed to pick the losing side of every war they've entered, so maybe they should keep the peace. But what is the tune? It must be an earlier Irish folk song; it was the music of the former state song of Washington, "Acres of Clams".
kathrynsmith724 1 month ago
the irish regiments were made up of both catholic and protestants during the civil, not just one religion but both, the prods are forgot about
TheUlsterprotestant 1 month ago
@TheUlsterprotestant If your a Prod you'er a Scottish immigrant to Ireland or you'er English.If you are Catholic you ARE Irish.
heretic154 1 month ago
@heretic154 lol dont talk crap, so wolfe tone isnt irish then? if you claim to be irish fair enough no mater what religon you are.
TheUlsterprotestant 1 month ago
@irishrogue61mak2 Why do you call your self Irish? you are nothing of the sort, over 30,000 Irish Catholics volunteered & fought for the South, not a single planter regiment from occupied Ulster joined up, learn before posting online you loyalist retard.
gespb32 1 month ago
@irishrogue61mak2 don´t talk rubbish. what abbout the french, italian and spanish confederate brigades. Christians died on both sides, jews and masonics were the winners.
andrija1978 1 month ago
Irish rogue thats bullshit know yoir full facts . I worked for 4 years In the Collins Museum. This sectarian shit is a insult to all the dead Irish who fought on both sides.
thunderpanther 1 month ago
there are 30 yankees
military370 1 month ago
The Irish only fought for the North because they were conscripted many deserted and fought for the South and then you have the San Patricios who fought and died for Mexico
tower2spire1 1 month ago
@tower2spire1 HAAAAAAAAAA you know nothing you better look it up
KISSMYARSE88 1 month ago
@tower2spire1 San Patricios deserted and fought for Mexico because they couldn't stand to fight against fellow Catholics. Plenty of Irishmen fought for the Confederacy during the civil war...
privatewhitford 1 month ago
Ignore "covered express" this is one of his many fake accounts, he spends his whole time trolling through Irish videos posting anti-Irish filth on them, he is convinced he is some sort of Scottish calvinist soldier on a mission against Irish "popery".
He feels the need to vent out aggression on line through a series of fake accounts & anonymity, he displays all the characteristics of paranoid schizophrenia. this is similar to anders behring breivik, he is insane & needs help.
gespb32 1 month ago
@coveredexpress No your not Irish, if you had a brain & watched the video you will see that is was the Catholic Irish who fought for the confederacy, over 30,000 Irish Catholics volunteered for the South, now I challenge you to name a single Ulster-Scot regiment raised in Ulster or Scotland during the civil war. You cant because there was none you loyalist twit.
gespb32 1 month ago
I'm irish fuck religion.
JordoF6 1 month ago
irish-unaversilist, irish first
DKsparks13 2 months ago
Wolftone was a protestant the starting point of groups like the IRB/IRA. Religion has nothing to with being Irish its the most stupid thing I ever heard of. Faith is just one of many "tools" that is used to divide people probably the best card to play in a war. I see myself as an Irish-Catholic and always an Irishman first !
Erin go Braugh.....
IrishHitman79 2 months ago 2
Irish blood.
Prodestant Faith.
I am an Irish-American, but a Christian first
CAPace09 2 months ago
Religion has become just as much of a curse to the Irish than a blessing, it has clouded national aspirations & has turned good neighbours & friends into crazy animals. Having said that, I personally feel more closer with the baptist tradition more so than Rome, in truth I have grown to despise the link for which we were dis-possesed during the plantations, slaughtered, oppressed & eventually betrayed by Rome itself.
gespb32 2 months ago
@TheUlsterprotestant The United Irishmen? all of the leaders were Protestant, all of them, Tone, Tandy etc. later on Emmett etc..Sam Maguire founder of GAA, Protestant. Douglas Hyde, first president of Ireland, Protestant, founders of the Gaelic League, Protestant. I could go on but running out of room.
Irish Republicanism/Nationalism was founded & built up by Irish Protestants, this is reality.
gespb32 2 months ago
@gespb32 i know its true what you say, there were many prods that didnt want to stay under british rule but there were also many irish catholics who wanted to stay british aswell, what you could call traitors to each others cause, ive served with the royal irish and some the lads were from the republic some of whom would liked to have been part of great britan,
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
@TheUlsterprotestant I meet some lads who left the Eastern Command, I.D.F. who joined the B.A. professional soldiers arent held back by stereo-types, which is good, old allegiances are changing with the way Europe is going, Britain is a great country I know that, we have to solve partition first, I dont have all the answers but a United Ireland along the lines of the United States is ideal for all, maybe also a "confederacy" with Britain? everything will be on the table when the time comes.
gespb32 2 months ago
@TheUlsterprotestant anyone who is irish had ancestors and even family members in living memory who were on both sides.
blacklion1798 2 months ago
@blacklion1798 well none of mine in living memory all my family have been security forces from the U.D.R, R.I.R, R.U.C, P.S.N.I, B-Specials. even my great great granda was 1 of the original 1912 U.V.F before he went to war with the 9th Battalion Royal Irish Fusilers, but if i maybe went back far enough i might find 1 or 2, but i know that there are plenty on both sides
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
i am a scott and i woud give my life to the green
Ricky9938 2 months ago
lol ok fair enough if that what you thunk of your irish protestants heros who fought for ireland i wont argue
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
@TheUlsterprotestant Ignore that "heretic"guy, he does not seem to be Irish at all. if he is, he has no understanding of his own history, no Irish man would claim what he just did.
gespb32 2 months ago
@gespb32 lol i know what you mean there were a lot of protestants who fought for ireland espicaly in the united irishmen,
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
Why in every song that has to do with the civil war do we have to start arguments. Arguments about religion and slavery mostly. This song was not posted so people could argue over the internet about who is right and who is wrong its posted so we can listen to music, plain and simple.
southernpridegaming 2 months ago
free your minds from the shackles of semetic religons. Be a a Celt not a kike. No more brother wars.
JenkemZyklonBieber3 2 months ago
we stottish are celltic and hate the english and love the irish eny 1 wont to diss celts cum to scottland and my grate unkle was 2nd in comand of SF .
Ricky9938 2 months ago
@Ricky9938 Were you loaded up on Buckfast when you wrote this?
cosmictimes 2 months ago
Why do the Irish always have to bring religion in to it.
TheOldirishladdie 2 months ago
@TheOldirishladdie To be Irish is to be Catholic.
Always to remember the suffering inflicted for being both.
Pax Domine sed semper vobiscum
Archangelatis 2 months ago 2
@Archangelatis that's so ignorant. a lot of ireland's greatest patriots were protestants of anglo-saxon descent.
blacklion1798 2 months ago
@blacklion1798 I stand by what I said.
Archangelatis 2 months ago
@Archangelatis en. wikipedia. org/ wiki/ Protestant_Irish_nationalists
blacklion1798 2 months ago
@blacklion1798 Thank you for the information.No disrespect is intended to you or any man that fought for justice.But I still hold without reservation that to be Irish is to be Catholic
Archangelatis 2 months ago
@Archangelatis All due respect, I am Gaelic Catholic, our leaders who gave us modern Irish nationalism were all Protestant, there were many Catholic traitors to our people & cause for self-determination, at one time our leaders in this noble cause were Protestant Irish, at one time we were all Irish Nationalists, regardless of religion, Protestant, Catholic & Dissenter.
Different faiths & groups, Gaelic Irish, Anglo-Irish, Ulster Scotch Irish, but all Irish.
gespb32 2 months ago
@gespb32 The defining factor of Irish nationalism is Catholicism.If you want to just call your self Irish for sentimental reasons it does'nt matter,But if you want to BE Irish,then that means converting to Catholicism.I understood this after reading the book;My Traitor's Heart, by Rian Malan.about a white South African that honestly came to terms with what being an African means and is.Please read the book.
Archangelatis 2 months ago
@Archangelatis I suggest you read a little about The United Irishmen and from where they came.
snipper1ie 2 months ago
@Archangelatis What you have stated is one of the most crazy statements I have ever read about Irish people online, I am Irish, Gaelic by ethnicity, Catholic by faith however you need to realise that Rome screwed us over more so than Britian the initial English invasion to Ireland had Papal approval, William of Orange was led into battle by pipers from the Pope in Rome against those who defended the "church" here.
Initially we were closer to Orthodoxy rather than Rome.
gespb32 2 months ago
@Archangelatis u dont have to be catholic to be irish u idiot everyone is entitled to believe in what ever they want to believe in.
DrrnTW 2 months ago
@DrrnTW I stand by what i said.
Archangelatis 2 months ago
@TheOldirishladdie lol cause we been argueing and killing each other over it for hunderds of years, and will probably alwys argue over it but hopefuli no more killings
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
there many protestant irish who emigrated at this time aswell though esp during the famine it didnt care what religon u were the hunger affected both sides an both sides were forced to leave, some of my relatives left during that time an setled in virgina fought for the south aswell. the main point is that they joind the irish regiments both prod an catholic to fight for there new home, im proud to have relatives who wore the grey,
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
@TheUlsterprotestant That maybe but the vast majority who left Ireland at this time were Irish Catholics this proved from the records of the time, listen to the lyrics video, the insignia of the Irish brigades including the Alabama "Emerald Guards" were distinctly Catholic & Nationalist, to suggest otherwise is to fly in the face of historical reality.
The Irish Catholics people were only accepted after the typical bravery they displayed throughout the battlefields of the north & south.
gespb32 2 months ago
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@gespb32 If your Irish you are Catholic!
if you'er a Prod you'er Scottish or English.
heretic154 2 months ago
To all the Loyalists who are posting here on this video rubbish about my people, I issue one challenge to you all, just one, name a single "scottish" regiment raised during the civil war who fought for the south, you cant because it does not exist.
Get off the videos dedicated to the brave Irish men who fought & died for the South.Or at least upload one dedicated to the "alleged" achievements of your own ilk.
gespb32 2 months ago
@gespb32 you know what siryou are a bigot i have pointed out that both prods an catholics fought for the south but u r bloody narrow minded an can see that u have sumthingh against the irish protestants an will not budge from the point, the next thing you will say is that there were never any protestants who fought for irish freedom and independance
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
@TheUlsterprotestant Excuse me Sir! I am no bigot, I am not the one with a video of people singing anti-Irish Catholic "songs" marching through Catholic areas intimidating the local residents en masse & I never brought up the subject of Irish Independance I am explaining the contribution of Irish Catholic people during the American civil war we were not accepted there before the war but the gallantry of those men earned acceptance after places such as "Getysburg" & "Fredricksburg".
gespb32 2 months ago
@gespb32 ah so u were on my page lol maybe u will recognise that tune as a song of the confederacy an im trying to say that there were irish protestants fighting for the C.S.A an you can not seem to even consider the point, i apreciate the heritage of both sides an acknowledge there achivements and faults but you can only see one point,
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
@TheUlsterprotestant The people you describe were planter people who never considered themselves Irish, they migrated before & during the American revolution, the actual "Irish" people came afterwards, just before, during & after the American civil war.
I accept your people arrived during the earlier stages of the American story, my people, the native Irish came during their civil war. Both groups distinguished themselves in their own times & to-day still.
gespb32 2 months ago
@TheUlsterprotestant If your Irish you are Catholic!
if you'er a Prod you'er Scottish or English.
heretic154 2 months ago
@heretic154 im not claimingt to be irish im a british citizen and live in N.Ireland and proud of it, what im stateing in that coment tere were protestants who fought for irish freedom and considerd themselves to be irish
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
@TheUlsterprotestant Then they were wrong.Only Catholics can claim to be Irish.
heretic154 2 months ago
@heretic154 so you claim that men like wolfe tone an irish hero is not infact irish because he was a protestant?
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago 2
@TheUlsterprotestant very true irish republicanism is often portrayed as sectarian when in fact the original republican were a mix of all Irishmen th.e goal being to unite protestant catholic and dissenter
tecphobe 2 months ago
@tecphobe yes the original republican movemen the united irishment was not a secterian movement, but the republican movement now IRA/CIRA/PIRA is a secterian based campagin,
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
@heretic154 Bullshit..The Irish Protestant people gave us militant Irish Republicanism when the "church" condemned us for adopting it.
Religion does not define Irishness, in truth it never has & never will.
gespb32 2 months ago
@BigCheese462 The Irish Catholics formed many regiments in the south they were forced to leave Ireland during the famine, they formed the Alabama "Emerald Guards" & the 1st Virgina regiment, can you name one "scottish" regiment? or "planter/scot" regiment? you cant because they did not exist.
The south was made up of other ethnic groups not just scottish you fool.
gespb32 2 months ago
there were more irish protestants that fought for the confederacy than catholics people seem to think if your from ireland your a bloody catholic not true. dureing the famine it was not just the catholics that emagrated to america i had family that setled in virgina an fought for the south an a lot of the souths generals were of irish protestant decent stonewall jackson, bedford forest to name just 2. there also would have been people of sotish english welsh decent fighting on both sides
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
@TheUlsterprotestant There was not a single "planter" regiment raised from occupied Ulster during the civil war in America, not one, stop trying to hijack our heritage like you try to hijack Ulster, you are NOT an Ulster man, your Scottish/British, the Irish Catholics formed many units, for example, 1st Irish Battalion, Virginia Infantry, 8th Alabama volunteer Infantry "Emerald Guards" these Units were exclusively Irish Catholic who came to America during the famine.
gespb32 2 months ago
@gespb32 the irish protestants formed up them regiments along with irish catholics but am saying there were more irish prods in the south than irish catholics. were as in the north there were more irish catholics who formed regiment like the 69th an so on. an by the way i am an ulster man for i live in the province of ulster. but i am also so a british citizen an proud to be 1.
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
@TheUlsterprotestant Wrong yet again, you twist historical fact to suit your pseudo vision of history, your "ilk" went to America during the initial British settlements of the South along with the French, Spanish etc there is not a historian alive to-day who dispute that the Irish regiments were Irish Catholics & strongly nationalist.
Those units I mentioned were entirely Irish Catholic, listen to the lyris of this song which you clearly havent & no your not an Ulster man, your a foreigner.
gespb32 2 months ago
@gespb32 the irish catholics are romantasised far to much much threwout history an the contrbitions of the irish protestants overshadowed esp in the civil war were they were the majority in the south, im sayn there were catholics that fought for the south to but u r far to bloody stuborn to even see that point. and were excactly in the world r u from to call me a fucking forginer in my own country
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
@TheUlsterprotestant You are not from Ulster, I am an Ulster man, the Gaels are the natives of Ulster, you "lot" emigrated here in the 1600s, you have tried your best to destroy the native Gaelic Ulster culture & people but have failed, you are British & will never be considered as Ulster people because you simply are not.
You wish to have it both ways, to be a seperate country but still recognised as an Ulsterman, hilarious! also this video is dedicated to the Irish who fought for the C.S.A.
gespb32 2 months ago
@TypingTreeFrog Over 80,000 Irish Catholics voluntereed & fought for the Confederacy & over 100,000 fought for the Union, I have seen your comments on other Irish videos, your a silly little bigot, also learn how to put a sentence together, its "My roots are Scottish" not "my roots are scots".
How many "Scottish" regiments fought for the Confederacy? name the "scottish" regiments who fought for the South, I know you wont but I will:
Answer: None.
gespb32 2 months ago
@TypingTreeFrog Scots are Irish by decent, the name Scotland comes from the Irish "Scottie" tribe who invaded the north of Britain. Ulster Scots are not the same as Scottish and would not have been around in great numbers during the civil war even in Ireland.
Flamorgan 2 months ago
a lot of them mite have joined irish regiments but they were mainly ulster-scot or protestants to some. stonewalls family were ofr that descent and were from my home town/local area of loughgal.
TheUlsterprotestant 2 months ago
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are you on drugs twollcock
david1966dc 2 months ago
bagies your a twat. look up your history books the confederate army was dominated by ulster scots . irish catholics where an insignificent lot laddie . stonewall jackson a true ulster scot
david1966dc 2 months ago
Let's not forget about the Virginia emerald guards, and the 24th Georgia brigade all were Irish.
loneguitar13 3 months ago
@coveredexpress the louisiana tigers were mostly made up of the irish from new orleans
mosbysmen 3 months ago in playlist More videos from Luftwaffels
Irish were good fighters and they fought on the right side wich is the confedrate side
TheRaymond1245 3 months ago
Oh and we have the US on lock, we run shit in America, keep thinking its the jews... we're at the top of the food chain.
bagies 3 months ago
the irish catholics have never won a war in thier lives.....oliver cromwell yeeeehaaaaa
TheTwollocks 3 months ago
@TheTwollocks listen here dick head we won the war of independence and got our country so fuck u dick head and we are still fighting 900 year and still strong
oisin727 3 months ago
@TheTwollocks we are still fighting..... what fighting is going on in ulster at the moment .. ZERO... DONT FORGET TO HAVE A LOOK AT MY VIDEO I HAVE UP OF CROMWELL.... in one battle 100 english dead and thousands of irish catholics.... lol... the irish catholics were humiliated lol lol lol lol
TheTwollocks 3 months ago
@TheTwollocks hey so wat r u doing here, get out and kiss an english men ass, the irish catholic fought for freedom everywhere they stablish, and u? just like ur anglesaxon bosses raping and invading.. typical of ppl like u kid.
charlynedved99 3 months ago
@TheTwollocks All calvinists are cowards who cant fight their way out of a paper bag. You were only brave with your english owners backing you up.
We "never won a battle"? We put you to the sword at the Battle of Benburb, the remnant ran like the cowardly fith they were & are!
Cowardly filth.
gespb32 3 months ago
@gespb32 Well said, they were indeed valiant in spirit WHEN and I do emphasize when, their english masters backed them up. Lowly quislings. We have pride, they have shame.
bagies 3 months ago
@TheTwollocks if i find you im gonna cut out your tongue and stop that big mouth of yours from ever working again...
darthjamula 3 months ago
@darthjamula do you live in england because i will be quite happy to meet up with you....and we will see who gets thier tongue cut out.... cunt
TheTwollocks 3 months ago
@darthjamula forget it 13 years old ffs...fuck off
TheTwollocks 3 months ago
@TheTwollocks Never won a war... The Irish beat the British whilst the latter was at the pinnacle of its eempire. Imagine that a few good men from the bogs taking down a war machine. We're the baddest island on the world map, we can't be matched.
bagies 3 months ago
@bagies Ignore the cowardly low-land "scot" - they were never brave enough to make their own country, they were happy being slaves, still are.
Over 80,000 Irish Catholics voluntered & fought for the Confederacy, how many "calvinist scots" voluntered?
Answer: None.
gespb32 3 months ago
@gespb32
I assume that in that 80,000 you're counting a majority of Ulster/Scots/Plantation Irish. Which in reality would be the majority of the population of the South.
PatsGrandson 3 months ago in playlist wbts
@PatsGrandson No I am counting the actual number of Irish Catholics who fought for the South. who left Ireland during the famine, who without resorces & aid were forced by the occupying government to leave their own homes through foreign "british" genocide.
Plantation "scots" in the N.E. of Ireland are not Irish in any way, never were & never will be.
gespb32 3 months ago
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Rao665 3 months ago
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mauritsnap 3 months ago
Over 80,000 Irish Catholics volunteered & fought for the Confederacy.
I see many Loyalists from "Scotland" are slating our people on our videos, how many "Scots" volunteered for the South? how many Battalions?
Answer: None.
gespb32 3 months ago
@gespb32 agree, but even the CSA got black , indian and mexican mixed battalions.
charlynedved99 3 months ago
@charlynedved99 I agree also, however I was defending my people against british loyalists who are trying to run down the achievements of my people.
gespb32 3 months ago 2
@gespb32 thump up for u. :)
charlynedved99 3 months ago
@gespb32 Yes! He should have converted to Catholicism.
heretic154 2 months ago
when you say irish north and south are you referring to a religous dimension i.e catholic or do you include irish protestants in that
david1966dc 3 months ago in playlist Confederate Songs
the civil war wasn't about what religion or what country you came from.it was about a way of life . it was not just an irish tradegy . if that's your argument then the same could be said of the large german,dutch and other nationalities who fought against each other including the ulster scots who were so large in number they could have made up countless brigades but did not because they were first and foremost american's and were confident in that to have no need to label themselves.
david1966dc 3 months ago in playlist Confederate Songs
@coveredexpress Thats Great But this song is called Kelly's Irish Brigade and not Kellys Scottish Brigade. We are celebrating the Irish who fought on the side of the south. Not disputing that mostly the Irish fought for the north. And what makes it a tragedy.. Is that many a time Irish North and South Fought against each other. A civil war within a Civil war...
MrMrk101 3 months ago
david1966dc let's get something straight there never was a kelly's irish brigade on the confederate side, 2 men and a dog more like. like the war of independance the people of south came from scot's irish stock and other protestant denominations.
david1966dc 3 months ago in playlist Confederate Songs
the whole conflict of this war was about states rights vs. imperialism and unfortunately the empire won. It was no civil war, it was a desperate war of independance just like when the colonies wanted independance from england.
1eagleboy1 3 months ago
@coveredexpress No one is disputed that the irish mostly fought on the side of the north.... But this song is remembering those irish who fought for the south thats all.. Over 40000 did fight for the south. and maybe many more ulster scots fought for the south. But thats not what this is about.
MrMrk101 4 months ago
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Over 40,000 irish not ulster scots fought for the confederacy,the Emmet Guards of Mobile, Alabama; the Southern Celts and St. Mary’s Volunteers of the 13th Louisiana; the Irish Volunteers of the 5th Georgia; the O’Connell Guards of the 17th Virginia; the Emerald Guards of the 9th Louisiana; the Sarsfield Rangers of the 7th Louisiana—to name just a few of the more than 45 distinctly Irish companies.
MrMrk101 4 months ago
Faugh-a-ballaugh! God bless Ireland! God Bless the South!
PresidentDRCI 4 months ago
I'm a northerner from Ohio, but of the Irish blood.
CAPace09 4 months ago
@coveredexpress i know for a fact that the majority of both sides soldiers were Irish.
if only the Irish had formed their own side they would have won the war.
oh yeah and Boston also had massive amounts of Irish immigrants.
SaxonSpooner 4 months ago
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Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the War; will be impressed by all the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision. -General Pat Cleburne, CSA
50TNCSA 4 months ago
It's all subjective.
I'm English but I'd've fought for the south.
moosey62 4 months ago
@moosey62 Your kind aren't welcome in these parts, lol just joking limey, I would have fought for the south too
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bagies 4 months ago
there where irish on both sides, religion had little to do with it, it basically came down to where they loyal to the northern goverment or where they for freedom, many went with freedom just out of the rebel spirt of the scots and irish, think about it, the english have oppressed you for so long and you come here, it is entirely possible some chose the south simply because they have wanted to fight for freedom for so long and they havent been able to
gmsm520 4 months ago
@gmsm520 Correct and the 18th Century "United Irishmen" movement is an example of Catholics and Presbyterians in Ireland uniting to form a political movement which eventually rose up against against an oppressive British political establishment. This was political unity regardless of religion. In fact many of the first Irish Republicans (in the proper sense of what being a Republican means) were protestants and many paid with their lives during the 1798 rebellion.
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
@devinediety This mythic nonsense that the people of the Shankhill were racially different from their neighbours on the Falls was seized upon by loyalist leaders like John McMichael. Loyalism then started to produce propaganda that developed the idea of the Shankhill Picts versus the Falls Irish. You would laugh if you could forget that the Shankhill Butchers actually believed this stuff. All of the people on the Island of Ireland need to move away from these kinds of myths and seek the truth.
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
@devinediety Finally... note that there is no archaeological, literary, cultural or genetic evidence that credibly distinguishes the Cruithin from any other tribe living in Ireland at that time. In fact the genealogies of the Dál nAraidi, the early medieval name by which the Cruithin called themselves, claimed descent from the Ulaidh tribe.
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
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@devinediety So for example, The 9th Century Irish philosopher and theologian to the Carolingian court "Don Scotus Eriugenia" is an example... his name translates as "John (Don) the Scot (Scotus), Irish-born (Eriu-genia)" i.e. describing him as "John the really Irish Irishman" . Additionally Brian Boru as Irish High King gave himself the title “Imperatur Scottorum”
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
@devinediety When Dál Riata moved to Argyle, (setting up the kingdoms of Kintyre, Mull and Islay) they brought the the names "Scot" and "Gael" with them... Throughout the middle ages, Scot could refer to people of Ireland or Scotland depending on context.
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
@devinediety On the origins of the word "Scot". 12th C Lebor na Nuachongbála and 11th C Historia Brittonum referencing Lebor Gabala Erenn cite the Legendary beginnings of Irish history and the Irish race... Scota was the supposed daughter of an Egyptian Pharaoh who depending on source was either the mother or wife of the progenitor of the Irish Race - Geytholos (Goídel Glas) from whom the word Gael (Goidheal) comes. So "Scot" or "Gael" equally referenced the ancient Irish (incl. Dál Riata)
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
@irishhistoryman u no ur stuff
DrrnTW 4 months ago
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@devinediety On page 217 Sykes (Blood of the Isles) continues, “There has certainly been a substantial settlement at some time from Ireland in the recent past and the Irish infiltration into the west of Scotland is almost certainly the signal of the relocation of the Dal Riada from Ulster to Argyll in the first millennium.”
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
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@devinediety A strong migration of OGAP8 to the Argyll area may be explained by the Dal Riada migration or as Sykes (blood of the Isles) notes “Ar-gael was coined by the kings of Dal Riada for their three colonies – Mull, Islay, and Kintyre peninsula.”
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
@devinediety The Cruthin cannot credibly be distinguished in Ireland they left no distinct archaeology or literature. We know that in historical times Cruthin followed the Irish Derbhfine system of inheritance rather than the matrilineal system used by the Picts and spoke Irish. Everything people assume or think they know about the Cruthin as distinct in Ireland - is based in mythology and most of all modern fiction, especially the determined political work of British Unionist writer Ian Adamson
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
@devinediety Recently unionist writers in Northern Ireland, elaborating on this theme, have invented a new form of the ancient ‘returning exile’ myth by which the Ulster‐Scots settlers of the 17th century are seen as the lineal descendants of Cruthin who left for Scotland over a thousand years before. Thus the unionists can claim a sort of primacy over the ‘newcomer’ Gaels. Useful as this new myth might be as a boost to unionist self‐esteem it is totally without historical basis.
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
@devinediety The early Irish pseudo‐historians regarded the Cruthin as amongst the earliest of the Irish peoples, on a par with the Érainn and earlier than the Goídel.
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
@devinediety The name Cruthin—cognate with Welsh Prydyn and probably with Roman Britanni—seems simply to be an early borrowing of Priteni, probably a general name for the indigenous peoples of the two islands, first attested in Greek texts of about the 5th century bc. This, rather than any cultural connection, would have been the reason why ancient Irish writers referred to the Picts of Scotland as Cruthin.
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
@devinediety The Ulster Cruthin were originally located on both sides of the lower River Bann but were pushed east of that river by the Airgialla after the battle of Móin Daire Lothair in ad 563. They shared the overkingship of Ulaid with the Dál Fiatach until the 10th century and it is probably significant that the inauguration place of the Ulaid overking, at Cráeb Tulcha near Glenavy in Co. Antrim, lay in the hinterland between the two ethno‐political groups.
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
@devinediety The Oxford Companion to Irish History
Cruthin (Cruithin, Cruithni), an apparently ethnic descriptor used of a number of Early Medieval kingdoms, especially in the restricted area of post‐4th‐century Ulaid, where the tuatha so described (for instance Dál nAraidi of mid‐Antrim and Uí Echach Coba of Down) are contrasted with the Érainn‐descended tuatha such as Dál Fiatach and Dál Riata (see ulaid).
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
@devinediety Do not rely on Ian Adamson or W. A. Hanna as your sources for ancient Irish or Scottish history. Neither are historians but are rather promulgators of modern myths and half-truths in an effort to justify the 17th C plantation of Ulster. They are misinterpreting the writings of medieval Irish pseudo-historians disingenuously twisting them to their own ends and developing their own modern versions of pseudo-history that is devoid of proper historical scholarship and fact... read on
irishhistoryman 4 months ago
Quality.
quinnMAD1 4 months ago
@coveredexpress Not so.
zipsrule 4 months ago
who sings that?
IrishDrunkBastard 4 months ago
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@THEEVILPURAH What the fuck are you on
22grena 4 months ago
@BigCheese462 You are one thick ignorant uneducated fuck if you believe that. Try picking up a book but first you'll have to learn to read.
22grena 4 months ago
@devinediety Scotti were the irish who raided the land that would later be called Scotland after the Irish 'Scotti'
22grena 4 months ago
A little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing. FYI, Many Irish came in old slave ships to New Orleans as well. While the great majority arrived at Boston, NYC, or Canada in log ships, there were still thousands who fought for the South. Ulster Scots were also well-represented in the Union army as they didn't just go into the Southern mountains but also spread up into & out from the Northern mountains. Does the WHISKEY REBELLION ring a bell? San Patricios came up & fought the South. Gaels unite!
OutlawMinniePearl 4 months ago
@THEEVILPURAH Yep!!! What is it about the Gaels & other people's civil wars?? I love Christy Moore's song about fighting the fascists in Spain! & I love how the Irish switched sides in the Mexican War when they saw it was just another John Bull Sam land grab. They picked on 'em for being Irish & Catholic, etc, so they fought with the Mexican Catholics trying to keep their land. Progeny came N. to fight for Confed. I love how deeply the Gaels are woven into American History, happy or sad. . .
OutlawMinniePearl 4 months ago
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OutlawMinniePearl 4 months ago
@BigCheese462 ...you are correct....I am from Georgia, and my ancestors, who immigrated to Ireland from Scotland, came from Ireland to the US in the 1700s...and subsequently fought in the Confederate States Army....
CoastGuardIDC 4 months ago
@BigCheese462 scottland founds on ulster
TThorne931 5 months ago
@BigCheese462 do you like to just make up facts yourself, 93% of what your saying is bullshit
peader111 5 months ago
@BigCheese462 wales not scotland, look it up.............
peader111 5 months ago
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m4xfl4xst4r 5 months ago
Most Irish had to enter via Canada so axiomatically joined the North. They had a sense of injustice of course at the idea of one culture lording it over another. Not that that was always quite clear.
pfiddle 5 months ago
@THEEVILPURAH thats cazy didnt no there were so many
DrrnTW 5 months ago
@THEEVILPURAH are u saying 150,000 men from ireland fought for the north?
DrrnTW 5 months ago
@THEEVILPURAH i know thats what i mean...
DrrnTW 5 months ago
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My great, great, great, great Grandfather was in the Irish Brigade
CSASniper100 5 months ago
Kelly's brigade was Union, not confederate. Get that traitorous flag off there. LOL it even says the were fighting for the UNION in the damn song, idiots.
iamlost2 5 months ago
@iamlost2 wasnt there 2 irish bigades? for the north and south and in the song it says... didnt those cowadly lincolnites tremble when they meet with the irish brigade. lincolnites=unionists? or am i wrong
DrrnTW 5 months ago
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iamlost2 5 months ago
I thought Kellys Irish Brigade was an union unit orginally from new york?
TheMythicSurvivor 5 months ago
@TheMythicSurvivor Yes, it was and he was. Though they became famous for the Battle of Gettysburg.
iamlost2 5 months ago
@iamlost2 Then how can a song that praises the confederacy be named after a unit who fought for the union?
TheMythicSurvivor 5 months ago
Saying the Civil War was about state's rights instead of slavery is like when people meet someone new and suddenly decide they want to break up with their significant other:
You'll give all these deep philosophical reasons about "how we're not right for each other" etc, and the stuff you say is probably even true, but the reason you're breaking up right here and right now is because you want to go fuck someone else.
rmtaks 5 months ago
@dublinricky No wonder the English don't like Irish Catholics. God bless the Scot-Irish.
God Save the South.
Shadowmourne07 5 months ago
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iamlost2 5 months ago