probably has a chain and sprocket on other side of it....good luck trying to ride that thing i guarantee you its slower then a normal bike you would only be able to go straight too if you have a chain running up to the front, not very practical at all
@Ozark221 was just a stab, regardless if its chain or hydraulic or midget powered all this system does is add weight, pretty pointless if you ask me the problem with a bikes like that is keeping the wheel down not getting it to the ground
@ryansatmcc Agreed, but whether it's hydraulic or shaft drive, the added weight isn't more than 15 pounds and it increases traction in all situations (ex. bad weather) and improves cornering ability. I think it's a good idea.
Okay, so the front wheel is normal until the back wheel losses grip. So if your in a corner and apply lots of throttle the back wheel will start to slip and the front wheel starts to get power and you are pulled through the corner at a high rate of speed?
How 'bout the Rokon. Two-wheel-drive motorcycles since 1958 or so, looks more badass bike even in stock compared to its fellow countryman stock models... By the way, if you look kinda cool on the Rokon you really are cool at then... rokonworld.c o m
what? i have been riding motorcycles since i was 10. i am now 36. hmmm... how many years experience is that? i have an R6 and a gsxr1000. so shut the fuck up you goddamn crippled fuck. i drag race every weekend, you compete in the special olympics.i went riding yesterday. when was the last time you went riding? or even fucking WALKED. shut your goddamn mouth you wheelchair ridin' dope smoking young boy. next time keep your fucking mouth shut when you don't know shit.
@cademcnown25 ha at least im havin fun makin vids with my friends and not bragging to people about how long you have been riding. obviously know one has your riding experience cuz know one else here is an old fart
@bandguy360 young boy, first of all, learn how tto spell. secondly keep your goddamn nose out of my business you little biitch. and 36 is hardly old. lol
Unique but do we REALLY need it for the average rider on these average roads? Thats also one more mechanism to have to worry about fixing when it breaks to not to mention added weight with the fluid and parts. burnouts and drifting lost. Gas mpg gain? hmm let me sleep on it.
What's the point honestly? I've rode 2wd dirt bikes before and there amazing. But in muddy conditions that's sensablr for a dirt bike. What would you worry about that on the street?
@stuntjake7 Improved tire wear and more forgiving cornering are a couple of things that come to mind. I seem to recall, though, that this was intended for a production based race series that would have required it to be sold on production bikes for it to be used in competition, where power levels are much higher.
@stuntjake7 ever ride in the rain? ever ride in the rain across the lines and shit painted on the street? ever hit a corner with some loose gravel? ever try to take off from a stop light and your in a puddle of oil that the piece of shit in front of you is leakeing? 2WD are great on and off the road.
so i guess doing a burnout on this bike would be even worse then when you do it on other bikes, hell it might not even be possible to burn out on this
They did a test on a track with this configuration (R1) sometime back, and in wet conditions it did a 5 second better lap time than a single wheel drive R1. Pretty impressive.
If you read about the tech, the front wheel can never have more power than the rear since it's a gearbox driven (by chain) hydraulic pump. When you step out the rear, the front is still pulling you through the corner.
yeah full twist on a r1 and youre going on the back tire, theres no getting around it. Im gonna laugh when the bike understeers and this guy highsides off a cliff trying to be nicky hayden or some shit
@whysohigh really? i didn't know that. jackass, if the front wheel has power applied it will be harder to control. have you not ever ridden a goddamn bike?
@cademcnown25 maybe harder to ride for someone as inexperienced as yourself, but to a pro its just another adjustment to get used to. just so you know son, thats what pros do, they find ways to advance their equipment and skill as technology changes and evolves. now go ahead and prepare your argument because your not man enough to admit when your wrong. good day sir.
@vandervoort88 unless you know how to ride it, i can say the same thing for a rear wheel drive bike, watch.... i can smell a highside coming from this bike, a little too throttle happy out of a corner, out goes the back.
if u mean circuit, it is actually harder to drive. accelerating out of a corner and braking are alot harder. when ur accelerating straight, u will gain by 2 wheel drive. but everything else? well, if u like, I guess u can use it.
ok, but now what would happen if you squeeze too much of either brake? Would the push from the rear wheel over power the front end, and the pull from the front wheel over power the back? Sounds like a death trap to me
exactly. u can't brake it like usual ones, without clutch, u HAVE TO use the clutch, or u can only brake, when ur straight up and not turning. in the other hand, accelerating out of a corner is pretty fucked up, coz R1 has alotta power, but when u apply it on both wheels, a bit too much throttle will throw u.
the problem with raceing bike is not the power, its the fact that only one wheel has to handle 250+ hp. But if u put it on 2 wheels then it becomes more safer and ezyer 2 handle, watch a motor bike race and look when they hit a corner they have to get off the gas or the back end breaks lose and there hading to a barrier. =P lancia delta 4ever
You're an idiot. I've been riding motorcycles since i was 12.
2 wheel drive on a motorcycle is bizarre, and would cause you to whipe out HARD if a tire lost friction, unlike on a standard bike that could correct itself.
K, ive been riding since i was 7. It telss nothing how long youve been riding ;D
And i know, i was commenting something stuped. I would say that this motorbike will fly when it hits the wall. Hahah :D Sorry, ive been wake now.. 30 hrs?
I can see that slip out in the corners. But then again it would open a whole new class in drifting if you got the balls. I am just wondering how the power get's up front. I would think that a chain would go lose and fall off when the suspension get compressed up front. Cant wait to see how it's done.
The system is actually very simple, it's just hydraulics. The weight added is a scant 8 kilos.
This system was made more for MX racing than anything else. Wheel slip in MX is normally about 50%. All that force transferred to the front wheel is quite an advantage.
A bike with this system piloted by 50 year old Thorleif Hansen won the Gotland Grand National motocross race with a 15 minute lead time over the other riders.
Shaft drive wouldn't make anything a top performer. It would promote wheel hop instead of power to the ground. Instead of launching it would do a burnout...
Also..the new Honda V4...is that in the next issue as well? I read it is shaft drive. I guess Honda really is determined to keep the CBR line as top dog.
The front wheel is driven by a hydraulic motor that is powered by the rear wheel. The hydraulic lines are flexible and run through the frame and down the forks.
The 2WD system is based on the movement of a hydraulic fluid through a closed system, moving forces from the rear tire to the front tire when grip is lost. As long as the rear wheel has a solid grip the hydraulic fluid moves in the system without pressure.
The energy that is lost when the tire is spinning is transported through the high pressure hose to the front wheel supplying the equivalent amount of torque that would have been lost in a regular rear wheel powered bike.
The front forks can turn because there is no drive shaft or chain connecting the rear drive to the front wheel. The power comes from a hydraulic hose which is flexible enough to weave through the frame and down the front forks.
There has been talk about this for a while, it gives the bike much much more traction, and on a track its safer. Also possibly faster because of the former 2 facts. But like was already said, there are already rules in place that make 2wd bikes illegal in racing. Will that change? who knows, but yeah i am pretty sure they would never be in the same class as normal motorcycles
How? Hydraulic front wheel hub (see the fat tube). Why? During tests on wet track, it gained several seconds per lap on the stock R1. Of course they will never be allowed to use this in competition against 1 wheel drive bikes, but it proves that it has an effect. There is more info on the Yamaha site somewhere.
this bike's been around for age's, can't remember why it never took off but ohlin's developed it, they also did an mx version, both had good test reveiw's at the time then they just dissapeard from public , dont get why theyr'e showing this again, it's been around for a good 6/7 year's
another reason to drive the price of bikes up. i can see 2wd getting recalled within 5 months of massive production. so lame. bike are meant to become 1 with the rider. its about skill, fun and learning. linked brakes never caught on what make any1 think 2wd will?
It changes the delivery of power to the road. This could lead to an all new method of racing. Something could be discovered riding this bike on the track and could lead to an new evolution in motorcycles.
It has a similar crankshaft... but what's that have to do with what I said? I was replying to a previous comment from "matey182" where he said that if 2wd were useful on a sportbike it would've been mastered by motogp teams by now... and i'll repeat, that's a stupid statement. You guys do realize that bikes have changed a lot in the last 10 years, right? Change isn't a bad thing, you know.
When you begin to lose rear wheel trac...i think it helps pull ya around a corner... look up"Advantages of 2wd bikes" and you should get a few of em :)
good question. i bet it's more prone to low sides instead of highsiding as before with just the rear losing traction. A two wheel drive bike will work but it needs a much bigger profile rubber in the front
@ryansatmcc - probably hydraulic dude, the chain drive systems faded into history a long time ago...
johns78c 1 month ago
probably has a chain and sprocket on other side of it....good luck trying to ride that thing i guarantee you its slower then a normal bike you would only be able to go straight too if you have a chain running up to the front, not very practical at all
ryansatmcc 1 month ago
@ryansatmcc Fantastic job judging the technology without knowing anything about it sir.
Ozark221 1 month ago
@Ozark221 was just a stab, regardless if its chain or hydraulic or midget powered all this system does is add weight, pretty pointless if you ask me the problem with a bikes like that is keeping the wheel down not getting it to the ground
ryansatmcc 4 weeks ago
@ryansatmcc Agreed, but whether it's hydraulic or shaft drive, the added weight isn't more than 15 pounds and it increases traction in all situations (ex. bad weather) and improves cornering ability. I think it's a good idea.
Ozark221 4 weeks ago
@motorcyclenewsdotcom Two questions.
How, and why?
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how the hell does taht work?
Petegrin1 3 months ago
thats nothing i have an AWD unicycle
brendanraymond 4 months ago 17
HHhhmmmmm... i smell a rat!
teamfab 4 months ago
Does this improve your speed??
rubino1997 4 months ago
so in short.... no burnout... :(((
asif555b 5 months ago
Sounds great, but if it blows a hose, you'll probably slide on the fluid.
yard1sale1dale 5 months ago
this is cool but so poinless... only thing i think two wheel drive motorbikes would be good for is hill climbing on dirt bikes...
nara94 6 months ago
nose wheely contest????
neeguspleez 6 months ago
Imagine the amount of drag...
Naturepheonix 6 months ago
haha finally, you can pull a stoppy and if u go to far, u can just throttle it, instead of preparing for face plant
crackerstolemybike 6 months ago 3
Hhmmm
Knot2shaby 7 months ago
why??
kruku55 7 months ago
Drive it in the snow!!
toofast20 7 months ago
So..this is like AWD for motorcycles I guess? lol
wajalama 7 months ago
@wajalama It is AWD on a motorcycle.
yamasubaruger 5 months ago
thats just amazing
FyreFox94 10 months ago
ok let's break the stoppie record now
WeThePeopleee 11 months ago 23
svensk e den iaf :D ( swedish it is! )
kanneebannee 1 year ago
Okay, so the front wheel is normal until the back wheel losses grip. So if your in a corner and apply lots of throttle the back wheel will start to slip and the front wheel starts to get power and you are pulled through the corner at a high rate of speed?
Sounds great.
JasonWW2000 1 year ago
Christiney street bike
lol
miniimoto95 1 year ago
How 'bout the Rokon. Two-wheel-drive motorcycles since 1958 or so, looks more badass bike even in stock compared to its fellow countryman stock models... By the way, if you look kinda cool on the Rokon you really are cool at then... rokonworld.c o m
OttovonEarth 1 year ago
what? i have been riding motorcycles since i was 10. i am now 36. hmmm... how many years experience is that? i have an R6 and a gsxr1000. so shut the fuck up you goddamn crippled fuck. i drag race every weekend, you compete in the special olympics.i went riding yesterday. when was the last time you went riding? or even fucking WALKED. shut your goddamn mouth you wheelchair ridin' dope smoking young boy. next time keep your fucking mouth shut when you don't know shit.
cademcnown25 1 year ago 2
@cademcnown25 haha whats an old man like you doin on youtube?! GET A LIFE
bandguy360 1 year ago
@bandguy360 go make another one of your skateboarding videos young boy. every vid. you made was fucking gay you dorky little bastard
cademcnown25 1 year ago
@cademcnown25 ha at least im havin fun makin vids with my friends and not bragging to people about how long you have been riding. obviously know one has your riding experience cuz know one else here is an old fart
bandguy360 1 year ago
@bandguy360 young boy, first of all, learn how tto spell. secondly keep your goddamn nose out of my business you little biitch. and 36 is hardly old. lol
cademcnown25 1 year ago
@cademcnown25 you spelled tto wrong.
bandguy360 1 year ago
@bandguy360 which days did you say you liked geting fucked up the ass? only on days ending in Y? you fucking loser
cademcnown25 1 year ago
@cademcnown25 stops being just your business when you post it in a public forum
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but it can turn the handlebars?
notersdc 1 year ago
but it can turn the handlebars?
notersdc 1 year ago
@notersdc no, they spent all that money and research on a bike that can only go straight. and ppl say theres no stupid questions.
whysohigh 1 year ago
seems like that might be kinda hard to handle on a tight turn.
foxracing279 1 year ago
this guy is the dumbest and worst camera man i have evar seen!
jizwiz13 1 year ago
ive never heard of such a thing. thats pretty kool shit.
strgzr53 1 year ago
Unique but do we REALLY need it for the average rider on these average roads? Thats also one more mechanism to have to worry about fixing when it breaks to not to mention added weight with the fluid and parts. burnouts and drifting lost. Gas mpg gain? hmm let me sleep on it.
zzacco 1 year ago
What's the point honestly? I've rode 2wd dirt bikes before and there amazing. But in muddy conditions that's sensablr for a dirt bike. What would you worry about that on the street?
stuntjake7 1 year ago
@stuntjake7 Improved tire wear and more forgiving cornering are a couple of things that come to mind. I seem to recall, though, that this was intended for a production based race series that would have required it to be sold on production bikes for it to be used in competition, where power levels are much higher.
rustyATV 1 year ago
@stuntjake7 ever ride in the rain? ever ride in the rain across the lines and shit painted on the street? ever hit a corner with some loose gravel? ever try to take off from a stop light and your in a puddle of oil that the piece of shit in front of you is leakeing? 2WD are great on and off the road.
whysohigh 1 year ago
so i guess doing a burnout on this bike would be even worse then when you do it on other bikes, hell it might not even be possible to burn out on this
thrasha666 1 year ago
Good or Bad,
It would be interesting to Ride
TeslaPatent302 1 year ago
They did a test on a track with this configuration (R1) sometime back, and in wet conditions it did a 5 second better lap time than a single wheel drive R1. Pretty impressive.
If you read about the tech, the front wheel can never have more power than the rear since it's a gearbox driven (by chain) hydraulic pump. When you step out the rear, the front is still pulling you through the corner.
gagegr 1 year ago
yeah full twist on a r1 and youre going on the back tire, theres no getting around it. Im gonna laugh when the bike understeers and this guy highsides off a cliff trying to be nicky hayden or some shit
camhanger 1 year ago 2
Id really love to know how it is to drive with that !
schreibmichab 1 year ago
looks goood but also looks like a recipe for disaster... i m just saying.
fayrex 1 year ago
seems like it would have torque steer problems coming out of corners and rolling on the gas hard
cademcnown25 2 years ago
@cademcnown25 you sir, are dumb.
torque steer huh?
jordankwanstrum 1 year ago
@jordankwanstrum did i pull your goddamn string? fucking little bitch boy
cademcnown25 1 year ago
@cademcnown25 torque steer? its not a car.
whysohigh 1 year ago
@whysohigh really? i didn't know that. jackass, if the front wheel has power applied it will be harder to control. have you not ever ridden a goddamn bike?
cademcnown25 1 year ago
@cademcnown25 maybe harder to ride for someone as inexperienced as yourself, but to a pro its just another adjustment to get used to. just so you know son, thats what pros do, they find ways to advance their equipment and skill as technology changes and evolves. now go ahead and prepare your argument because your not man enough to admit when your wrong. good day sir.
whysohigh 1 year ago
you would own in dragraces with this one, but on a racetrack, you'd fail miserably
lolzordje123 2 years ago
Developed by a Swedish company. Öhlins. Very nice invention.
fastersixth 2 years ago
thats dumb, you give it to much comin outta a turn and its gunna push or jsut washout, thats like something an enduro bike should be
NPSflattrack71u 2 years ago
I can smell a lowside coming from this bike for sure. A little too throttle happy out of a corner out goes the front.
vandervoort88 2 years ago
@vandervoort88 unless you know how to ride it, i can say the same thing for a rear wheel drive bike, watch.... i can smell a highside coming from this bike, a little too throttle happy out of a corner, out goes the back.
whysohigh 1 year ago
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i own wrx. it is awd. drives great.
12valvepower1 2 years ago
Why?
DaManzMoney 2 years ago
ive been riding since i was a fetus. Lol I love youtube arguments
justinden99 2 years ago
Making it 2 wheel drive, is ok for track only.
For stunting or mpg use, forget it.
Not to mention if the front whel drive train fails/locks up, your beyond the point of fucked.
Since I like doin wheelies, i like getn 40 mpg, and i like not having to worry about dying suddenly, I'll stay 1 wheel drive :)
StoneShoulderz 2 years ago 4
by making it a 2 wheel drive machine it actually improves the fuel efficiency, and who says you cant wheelie it? :D
garhailija 2 years ago
it is harder. r u sure bout fuel efficiency.
codenamecordon 2 years ago
might be... there is another video where that same guy explains that they got better mpg with 2-wheel drive.
garhailija 2 years ago
if u mean circuit, it is actually harder to drive. accelerating out of a corner and braking are alot harder. when ur accelerating straight, u will gain by 2 wheel drive. but everything else? well, if u like, I guess u can use it.
codenamecordon 2 years ago
ok, but now what would happen if you squeeze too much of either brake? Would the push from the rear wheel over power the front end, and the pull from the front wheel over power the back? Sounds like a death trap to me
ridesoul 2 years ago
exactly. u can't brake it like usual ones, without clutch, u HAVE TO use the clutch, or u can only brake, when ur straight up and not turning. in the other hand, accelerating out of a corner is pretty fucked up, coz R1 has alotta power, but when u apply it on both wheels, a bit too much throttle will throw u.
codenamecordon 2 years ago
HOLY SHIT THAT IS SIC
turboyz125 2 years ago
why?
RyanPlow 2 years ago 2
what good is this? i understand 4 wheel drive on a pick-up... but who's really going to be mudding or in tough terrain on an r1? lol
ivickvv 2 years ago 2
the problem with raceing bike is not the power, its the fact that only one wheel has to handle 250+ hp. But if u put it on 2 wheels then it becomes more safer and ezyer 2 handle, watch a motor bike race and look when they hit a corner they have to get off the gas or the back end breaks lose and there hading to a barrier. =P lancia delta 4ever
ubuntunoobz 2 years ago
Noob
Its not for terrain, its for track. If you dont know what to do with that, dont comment.
Hemuliboss 2 years ago
You're an idiot. I've been riding motorcycles since i was 12.
2 wheel drive on a motorcycle is bizarre, and would cause you to whipe out HARD if a tire lost friction, unlike on a standard bike that could correct itself.
ivickvv 2 years ago
K, ive been riding since i was 7. It telss nothing how long youve been riding ;D
And i know, i was commenting something stuped. I would say that this motorbike will fly when it hits the wall. Hahah :D Sorry, ive been wake now.. 30 hrs?
Hemuliboss 2 years ago
wtf is a noob
Ikaynel 2 years ago
Noob = newbie, never heard?
Hemuliboss 2 years ago
I think we should start to find a use for this?
hughes111 2 years ago
ya like off road
paddysboys 2 years ago 2
offroad only. circuit would be pretty hard.
codenamecordon 2 years ago
Drift It~!!!
randomcold 2 years ago
get that crazy shit on a drag race =D....XD
adrenalynejunky 2 years ago
I can see that slip out in the corners. But then again it would open a whole new class in drifting if you got the balls. I am just wondering how the power get's up front. I would think that a chain would go lose and fall off when the suspension get compressed up front. Cant wait to see how it's done.
carguyinok 2 years ago
they use a hydraulic pump system like pto on a tractor
silentknight2112 2 years ago 2
Yamaha tried something similar on there off-road bikes but i think they have now abandoned those efforts.
davidatheist 2 years ago
Drive shaft run through the forks I think... its been done before
Dayberry 2 years ago
now lets see a stand still burnout lol
icool247 2 years ago
LOL GOOD THINKING
turboyz125 2 years ago
bad idea its gonna slip
sukhman07 2 years ago
ha .
studotcom 2 years ago
SWEET, now I can ride all year long, even when the snow falls here in the North East!
zx6r09 2 years ago
the power would just make the front wheel slip...
its a bad idea
xGaNgStAScoTTx 2 years ago 2
haha then differential.
magichatrick 2 years ago
Now this is the Nissan Skyline of motorcycles!
motocross321 2 years ago
I could understand 2wd for a motocross or trail bike, but for a sport bike!? what is the point??
bliglum 2 years ago
So what good is drive to the front wheel going to do when it inevitibly wheelies as all the carb'ed R1's do?
ferrarifan54 2 years ago
i think this 2wd system puts extra strain on the clutch.
yamahasbk88 2 years ago
Im not sure what to think about this... the extra weight and complexity verses better cornering acceleration
psychocycledad 2 years ago
The system is actually very simple, it's just hydraulics. The weight added is a scant 8 kilos.
This system was made more for MX racing than anything else. Wheel slip in MX is normally about 50%. All that force transferred to the front wheel is quite an advantage.
A bike with this system piloted by 50 year old Thorleif Hansen won the Gotland Grand National motocross race with a 15 minute lead time over the other riders.
UltraSWG 2 years ago
but does it bog down at the start like AWD cars?
timijai22 2 years ago
so about 20 lbs more,,thats barely noticable.
spencermel 2 years ago
proper drift bike if only i had this system on my fireblade
check my crash burn drift video!
thesiknik7 2 years ago
ITS BLACK MAGIC I TELL YOU!!!!
skateteampiss 2 years ago 3
Lol
Philscbx 2 years ago
Is it a drag bike? how can the front wheel turn if it is a two- wheel drive?
Masamune0191 2 years ago
because a bike only has 2 wheels? ;)
A standard bike would be a "1wheel drive system".
rdgsxr 2 years ago
R1's are SuperBikes. 1000 cc 150 Hp. I have an older one. What makes you think it's a 'drag bike'?
There's a monkey on crack running backwards through the front fender, so it still steers. Auto tazed on upshifts.
Philscbx 2 years ago
Shaft drive wouldn't make anything a top performer. It would promote wheel hop instead of power to the ground. Instead of launching it would do a burnout...
Flobum22 2 years ago
Yamaha all wheel drive :)
samfisherman007 2 years ago
I want to know ..
how to perform a burnout
tjpessego 2 years ago
Love it
roberthartley2009 2 years ago
I THINK IT IS WITCH CRAFT!!!!!
animal100000 2 years ago
Can't wait for the issue.
Also..the new Honda V4...is that in the next issue as well? I read it is shaft drive. I guess Honda really is determined to keep the CBR line as top dog.
EJ25RUN 2 years ago
How do you turn the front wheel?
skyman95946 2 years ago
The front wheel is driven by a hydraulic motor that is powered by the rear wheel. The hydraulic lines are flexible and run through the frame and down the forks.
UltraSWG 2 years ago
Hu.. I wish I had somthing I could look at of how it was built :/ Just interested.
skyman95946 2 years ago
The 2WD system is based on the movement of a hydraulic fluid through a closed system, moving forces from the rear tire to the front tire when grip is lost. As long as the rear wheel has a solid grip the hydraulic fluid moves in the system without pressure.
The energy that is lost when the tire is spinning is transported through the high pressure hose to the front wheel supplying the equivalent amount of torque that would have been lost in a regular rear wheel powered bike.
UltraSWG 2 years ago 29
The front forks can turn because there is no drive shaft or chain connecting the rear drive to the front wheel. The power comes from a hydraulic hose which is flexible enough to weave through the frame and down the front forks.
UltraSWG 2 years ago
@UltraSWG thanks for the explantaion make more sense now
bezo1989 1 year ago
I would like to see how the hell did they do it to drive the front wheels hopefully the next vid will show us a bit more of the front wheels.
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hydraulic you can see the lines
mageac 2 years ago
There has been talk about this for a while, it gives the bike much much more traction, and on a track its safer. Also possibly faster because of the former 2 facts. But like was already said, there are already rules in place that make 2wd bikes illegal in racing. Will that change? who knows, but yeah i am pretty sure they would never be in the same class as normal motorcycles
seal2bkl 2 years ago
wt about wheelies?
yehyehdan 2 years ago
Should be really good at wheelies, what with the front wheel being able to spin whilst its in the air
gavrr 2 years ago
Nice :)
Geistxxxx 2 years ago
Good on snow...
ticinoo12 2 years ago
lol swell idea !
MuscleMan17 2 years ago
How? Hydraulic front wheel hub (see the fat tube). Why? During tests on wet track, it gained several seconds per lap on the stock R1. Of course they will never be allowed to use this in competition against 1 wheel drive bikes, but it proves that it has an effect. There is more info on the Yamaha site somewhere.
ukspizzaman 2 years ago
what about cornering.
never worket on a mtb.
galtzur21 2 years ago
I would be guessing just like cars more power to the ground from both tires.
Would I ever want one? Noooo but it is kind of cool. I do wonder how they got it to do that
HuffPCair 2 years ago
how can you perform a burnout on this thing
Tomsmt50cc 2 years ago
seriously what is that good for ??
chinsunyung 2 years ago
wouldn't this affect cornering and smoothness and control through and out of corners?
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Vidsabumba 2 years ago
With the added drive shaft how much weight has been added.
ImmortelAssassin 2 years ago
Infinite endos !
steadiworkz 2 years ago 2
lmao!
HistoryMajor7 2 years ago
A drive shaft, It looks much more like a hydraulic system that yamaha used on the wrf450 2-trac. This has been around for decades though.
I think there have been a few 2wd enduro's in Paris Dakar, but don't quote me on it.
altodykes1987 2 years ago
sounds a bit crazy ,ABS ect.sounded crazy on a bike keep pushing the boundries !
purdy123456 2 years ago
How is it physically driven?? It cant be a chain and still be able to steer!!
rawky 2 years ago
there is a small vertical drive shaft.
seroyer2 2 years ago
WTF why you don't filmed the front wheel?
I don't understand how they make it spin.
noob cameraman
PedtheFox 2 years ago
now you'de have to worry about losing the front wheel out of a corner.
2wheels2fast 2 years ago 2
id prefer rear wheel only anyway,its the feeling of all that power contact at one point and controlling that with the throttle
gengiz 2 years ago
this bike's been around for age's, can't remember why it never took off but ohlin's developed it, they also did an mx version, both had good test reveiw's at the time then they just dissapeard from public , dont get why theyr'e showing this again, it's been around for a good 6/7 year's
dxr1jockey 2 years ago
another reason to drive the price of bikes up. i can see 2wd getting recalled within 5 months of massive production. so lame. bike are meant to become 1 with the rider. its about skill, fun and learning. linked brakes never caught on what make any1 think 2wd will?
atillataz 2 years ago
It changes the delivery of power to the road. This could lead to an all new method of racing. Something could be discovered riding this bike on the track and could lead to an new evolution in motorcycles.
GregDotson 2 years ago 2
thank god this isn't on a Gsxr!
If all the effort was going to make that much of a difference to a Road bike, wouldn't they have mastered this technology in the MotoGp garages?
R1, - just like the flogged "big bang" hysteria, it's all about the HYPE!
matey182 2 years ago
The technology that will be in use 20 years from now isn't yet on motogp machines because it hasn't been developed yet!
Every year they're making new developments. It's stupid to say that these new developments are useless because they haven't already been developed.
Maybe 2wd will be used, maybe it wont...extra weight is likely the main problem right now... but that's a ridiculous argument.
jesse0192 2 years ago
But the new R1 uses same technology as this years fiat yamaha M1 ......
Lloydo46 2 years ago
It has a similar crankshaft... but what's that have to do with what I said? I was replying to a previous comment from "matey182" where he said that if 2wd were useful on a sportbike it would've been mastered by motogp teams by now... and i'll repeat, that's a stupid statement. You guys do realize that bikes have changed a lot in the last 10 years, right? Change isn't a bad thing, you know.
jesse0192 2 years ago
What are the advantages of this?
Garrison64 2 years ago
When you begin to lose rear wheel trac...i think it helps pull ya around a corner... look up"Advantages of 2wd bikes" and you should get a few of em :)
MikeW259 2 years ago
why?
finstervonshamrock 2 years ago
tbh y would u need 2wd? i dnt c how it would help and just gunna be dangerous.
xpur3tommy 2 years ago
awesome...finaly, but I wonder how it handles
fonzerrellie3 2 years ago
good question. i bet it's more prone to low sides instead of highsiding as before with just the rear losing traction. A two wheel drive bike will work but it needs a much bigger profile rubber in the front
joonsuk88 2 years ago
hmmmmm..... why? Snow perhaps? Bwaaahahaha!!!
ogriirgo 2 years ago
what a tease, I want to see how it works
gunluvS14 2 years ago
well, that can't be safe
thomas130592 2 years ago
i feel this would be more advantage for dirt bikes but I what do I know
RaBBolRaBBol 2 years ago
They already have 2wd motorcross bikes ^^
F4kus 2 years ago
I'm having a hard time seeing any real advantages of a 2wd system, but I can see quite a few possible disadvantages/safety issues.
phuse 2 years ago 2
advantages? probably mid corner acceleration
powersliding 2 years ago
Its hydraulic. The front hub is a hydraulic engine.
ukspizzaman 2 years ago
its def going to have more pull to it then i one wheel brothers
walston410 2 years ago
this is cool , can I trie ?
billylancer 2 years ago
they already have had this on a yamaha dirtibke a few years back. but this is pretty cool as a concept on the R1
NATEMAN360 2 years ago
mmmmm ok then
cwjolly69 2 years ago
Down shifting is going to be more of a danger. Because now the front wheel is have more of a pull. Its a god concept.
ImmortelAssassin 2 years ago
its an electronic based system so you could make the computer turn it of when deaccelerationg.
hvasaderzdrenka 2 years ago
so no more wheelies/burnouts/powersides then. Stupid
yamr108gb 2 years ago
true true. keep is as it is.... the R1's are fast enough.. shit
rush2905 2 years ago
its electronicly based.. so you could turn if of on a button...
hvasaderzdrenka 2 years ago
wounder how much heavyer that is
heslipscott 2 years ago
8 kg says the engineer in the mcn article.
hvasaderzdrenka 2 years ago
so cool
biglandfarm 2 years ago