Fair vs Zackey.Almost impossible fold of the best hand!WSOP2009.

[SuperIncrediball]

When he said 'I've got a read on you', I'd have replied with, 'yeah, and I've got 2mil chips on you pal...'

[MrJonnyboy36]

Fold. "I got a read on ya" fucking clown yo. :D

[tqsuited]

He's got a read on him, likes to bet with top pair! watch out

[Aweebok]

The worst thing that Fair did was to show KQ, oh and being named "fair" Idiot!

[preitaly]

nice read ahahahaah and good thing to tell him ahahahahah

[ShatiWorks]

THATS WHY YOU ALWAYS SHOW YOU HAND.

[MrDonses]

guy with kq needs to stop playing poker

[saucesauce555]

I can't believe ppl don't c how this is easy fold... U don't need to call river raises with third nuts to turn a profit vs tight nitty players. Nitty straight forward players aren't raising rivers without nuts.

[oleHABSole]

@saucesauce555 wtf you talking about? so this ''tight player'' bluffed flop and turn and now is representing A5 on river?

[sdrawkcab190]

@saucesauce555 he just did

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[Shiplodicus]

The lead on flop, turn and river was strange especially as the flop bet looks protective. When he says he will show if the guy folds he is essentially admitting he just has a Q. At 4 to 1 odds I do not see how there is no call here.

[KevinDorner]

He folds the best hand and right afterwards says "I've got a read von you, careful" lol

What an arrogant dumbass

[Viiolation]

zackey vs fair

lol look zack fair (ff7) best game ever thumps up

[TheJRL89]

Did Fair have Zackey on trips? Most would slowplay trips on a flop like that. If he had pocket 3's or 6's, he would have checked (unless he tried to represent stronger). If he had QQ, most would re-raise in that position. So Fair may have been worried about AQ. Instinct and reading ability has to kick in there to decide whether he had that. Fair would have been getting 2.465mil off his 1.25mil he had put in had he called the last 500k. So that would have been a decent chip up!

[thedudeabides97]

he knew the 'you show if i fold?' trick but didn't know what it meant lol.

[alive2k7]

QJ's fish overplays his so much that you may think he has KQ beat

He could have lead with mid pair like 76 and turned 2 pairs or an open ender like 56 that made a pair + str8draw on the turn then a str8 witth a 3 on the river

QJ's guy doesn't even know what hands he is valuebetting with his QJ, i don't think he thinks he is bluffing so logically he must me value betting, but there are not much (even any) weaker hands (ie QT-) that are gonna pay off a 3rd barrel

So QJ's guy is a donkey

[SuP3rNeSs022]

@alive2k7 Youtube pro huh? Lmfao. Idiot. Donkey

[alive2k7]

@SuP3rNeSs022

SHUT UP MICROSTAKES BROKE

[WillyMcWilliness]

You show if I fold? 'Yeah, please lay it down'... okay I fold even though you just told me I am ahead.

[kutaplex]

@WillyMcWilliness Oh you are so dumb. Zackey clearly thought he has best hand

[MauroX360]

que imbecil no ve la jugada ademas tiene la posicion marrano!



[jjpyae]

LoL Fair bluffed that he had a read.. what a douche-bag.

[insidejoker89]

@jjpyae Not really. It's okay ethics because it's up to Zackey to make the mistake of giving himself away after Fair makes that remark. It's nothing like when, say, you make a forward motion with a pile of chips like you're going to call only to balk and bring your chips back to your stack.

[adolfolicious]

i dont know if ill ever be good enough to fold QJ being afraid of QK or QA

....no definitly not

[curuzu]

OMG Fair looks like the fulltitlt's monkey avatar so bad!!

[fabio05cannavaro]

this guy sure can plum!

[acske]

He says he has a read but the fish leading out with QJ thought he had the best hand, so what does this "read" tell him?

[bohemia187]

snap call

[nomakym]

I've got a read on you, too bad I don't trust it and folded and paid you with the worst hand, because I'm all talk and no heart, blah, blah, blah. Whenever I don't trust my always correct gut instinct, I lose.

[MagoMinelli]

It's easy to have a read on someone after he shows you his hand.

Negreanu has the reads once the flop comes. Then you don't really need to show him anything.

[daveygravey123456]

ive got a read on you carefull... ohhh wait no i dont

[gabiotta]

Almost impossible fold?

WTF?

[Saroxify]

@gabiotta

mmhmm, agree with you.

but its really hard since tourneys will always have donks in it. :P

[Maxned1]

@gabiotta

The maker of the video is a complete calling station obviously.

[huguito8607]

well if you paid in flop and turn, and the pot is in 1.9M and the river bet is 500k, you cant lay down your hand there, top pair, good kicker 1.9M in chips. Maybe a turn fold by the half pot continuation bet, it maybe tells that the villian have AQ or better, but well he was scared...

[foramuricy]

Mr. douchebag is not really good on math. How can u fold top pair, good kicker, and 4 to1 to call.

[redhidus]

I had a similar situation like this in a cash game... I had KQ and position... The guy before me bet all the way till river on Q board... I felt I was beat but called it anyway..

he turned out AQ.. I dont think Overplaying KQ is so good in tourney.. butif he feels he was beat.. better throw em on turn.. why call all the bets only to give up on river??

PS: I am not a pro.. just play 1-2$ NL cash @ wendower

[Linu86]

the overplay isn't so bad... honestly... if he leads out twice and gets called twice he must figure that he's also up against top pair... so what's the worth of his kicker? It's probably not worth so much... only way for him to win is to lead out again. I actually won a hand like that last week and the guy folded KJ when I had JT... if that was his line of thinking (bluffing instead of value-betting), he's not that far off.

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[MrWr99]

calling on the flop was the biggest mistake

[ilovebrandnewcarpets]

Here's why this is a bad fold- If you call on the flop....and on the turn....you must either A-be drawing B-preparing for a bluff or C- think you have the best hand. SINCE he thought he had the best hand on the flop and turn there is no reason not to call another bet on the river. Sure if the donk is all in you can fold it, but in this situation....it's a puzzling laydown

[davidartog]

STOPPUTTINGTHISCRAP ON WTF IS THIS

[ikhouvanjexnoa]

i actually liked Zackey

[CUCKOO9999]

" sir i got a read on u " what a fucking tard lol

[silvercivik]

lol, both players are stupid

[ForYouMP]

Zackey is such a donk. He folded to a potential 56s. I bet he was shocked when Fair turned over KQo

[willyminor]

"You look pretty nervous over there"

"I am!"

LOL

[ilovebrandnewcarpets]

when you call on the flop, and you call on the turn, you should be calling that river bet. It was a bad fold for that reason. Over-thought himself into a fold

[perplexed76]

It's WSOP working moment... nothing to discuss

[zzzgdap]

Easy fold for that cunt, Ive folded quad 8`s before cos I knew the cunt sitting opposite had quad 10`s. Fucking obvious that fucking cunt was gonna fuck some cunt.

[buakaew88]

@zzzgdap you are retarded and have not ever folded quad 8's. retard.

[silvercivik]

@zzzgdap LERN TO SPEEK ENGRISH

[Deadganon]

@zzzgdap I see we have a pro here online... how many bracelets do u have? How much have u WON playing poker meaning PROFIT.... how many pros do we have on this youtube video site? (watches 8 billion hands being raised) WOW all of u are pros and can make excellent reads and folds better then the pros that we watch on tv? Why dont i see u all on tv.... oh wait cuz u along with everyone who claims to be a pro or great is a DONKEY who is a wanna-be and can't be ever a good poker player!

[zzzgdap]

@Deadganon

2 bracelets, 2.2m in winnings. Eat my anus.

[Deadganon]

@zzzgdap uh huh.... and im phil ivey....... 

[zzzgdap]

@Deadganon Hey Phil, love to the family.

[mrblink1823]

theyre both donks imo

[tomtubeboob]

when he calls 350k on the turn what was he expecting the next bet to be, 150k? If he just gave himself 6 seconds to think he would have worked out that someone holding a straight should get paid off there.

[tjpark0420]

sir i gotta read on ya careful

i almost puked from laughing

[bierbuik]

Haha, what an epic fail donk!

[sshakababy]

actually I don't think Zackey was bluffing. He was actully betting his quen thinking he had the best hand. So the read Fair got was all wrong, lol.

[fiending]

SIRRR. I JUST PAID $2M FOR A READ ON UUUUUUUUUUUU

[grindingitup]

the worst is wen he asked him "sir will u show if i fold" and the guys says yes, and then he instant folds..... watta donk

[LuvPeaceUnityRespect]

Impossible fold?? if you cant fold this you aint gonna get passed day one. better yet u wont even make it to the world series.

[bierbuik]

@LuvPeaceUnityRespect ??? I don't think you understood the video very well.

[LuvPeaceUnityRespect]

@bierbuik yeah your right i only seen the hands and decided to comment now i seen the play lol it was kind of donkey betting lolll

[gabiotta]

There is nothing impossible about this fold. 

[Harlingtonjnr3]

Fold with 4 to 1?? Muppet

[tadashimori]

How come those stupids youtubers call pro players a donk? They spend more money on dog food than your salary.

[UndercoverLdn]

What an idiot....if you keep calling and then on the river you're getting 4:1, how can you NOT call then...

[Maxnned]

IVE GOT A READ ON U DUHHHH

[infinitytru]

what a fucking donkey

[weefeatures]

why are people analysing Zackey's play? He's obviously oblivious to the rest of the board and like most donks, thinks top pair any kicker is the nuts

[EGarrett01]

The big river bet on a 4-straighted board confused him. As usual a donk's retardation saves him.

[primaxp]

@EGarrett01 that wasn't a big river bet, it was a third of the pot

[blindsquirrelandnoob]

Either raise flop or call river as played. It's too easy to say tho :)

[MrSmartComment]

i dont understand why he didin't reraise on turn and why he folded the river. what beats him? AQ, q5 , A5 or some other random hand like 55. the only hand really possible is Aq, and it didin't look an aq bet on the river ... Strange fold

[martysparty2042]

@MrSmartComment He might lead out at him with a flopped set

[coveirokiller]

@MrSmartComment He could have a set, KK or maybe AA.

[nybombs]

@coveirokiller no, you can't really have a set there, because his bet on the turn was very small in an extremely drawy board. Plus, I don't think you could lead out a bet on the river, it'd be a check/call or even a fold. And you can't really put him on AA or KK because he didn't three bet it on the blinds. He just called which would be pretty hard to play out of position. Fair should have called down the river, he was getting 4 to 1 to call.

[LostKid115]

Fair is just plain stupid, If you call a bet on the turn, then you must think you have the best hand so when the river comes a 3 how do you fold? Do you really think he had a 5 in his hand? I dont get why he calls the turn then? a 3 or 2 is the best card on the river.. so if hes calling the turn thinking hes the best hand its an easy call on the river with a 3.. so stupid, they dont think out their calls or plays.

[donmajikjuan]

@LostKid115 how many WSOPS you played at that made TV? thought so punk.

[Tehui1974]

Fair should have considered throwing in a re-raise on the turn to see how good his hand was. I think the straight draw on the river might have also spooked him into folding.

[biggsidd]

toetagu is sick just took down wcoop main

[ScottDevonKane]

How is that an impossible fold? He had only one pair with second kicker. When a guy leads into you three times, sometimes you just believe you're beat. This isn't that difficult of a fold.

To avoid a situation like this, you should raise on the flop. If he goes over the top, you know he has a quality hand like AQ or a set and you can muck em. If he calls and then checks the turn, you're golden and have taken away the strength of the bettor and taken control of the hand.

[alive2k7]

@ScottDevonKane

Agree with you but you can get pwned by always raising KQ type hands on a Q high board if you think your opponent will only 3bet flop with AQ,KK+ (slowplayed preflop) or set, because a good player could notice that and start bet/3bet flop with air or draws to make you fold you TP2ndK or TP3rdK

[chaoticchaos77]

lol shouldve raised on the flop

[TheReclamation14]

only donks like this overplay QJ...

[Squawkerd]

@TheReclamation14

yeah, real donks at the final table of WSOP

[Squawkerd]

@TheReclamation14

Yeah, real donks at the WSOP

[byrniemac]

@Squawkerd 1st of all this isnt the final table, secondly the guy is a donk, he's probably just a business man who wanted to blow 10 k.

[Squawkerd]

@byrniemac

That's probably fair comment actually, I was previously under the impression that you had to qualify, not just stump up the cash.

[fatsomamacheese]

I like how the dude tells him he has a read on him. That's just someone who got pwned trying to get his confidence back up. Someone says that to a pro, the pro goes "Sure you do bud." and next time they are in that situation he changes it up.

[moctezuma2008]

Lol. "Would you show me if I fold?" is a very classic tell. If they say yes is because they want you to fold and they are usually weak. On the other hand if they say no, U gotta pay if you wanna see my cards, then you better fold. However, if you are at a table with pretty good players and he knows that you know that tell, he will reverse it and your done.

[SaschaAleks7]

haha... "be carefull, I have a read on ya"....

the fuck he did... owned him totally!

He just said that not to loose face completely... hehe...

[elcomedian66]

spoken like a true sucker buddy. its frustrating when the donks show some dumbass better hand but most of the time when they chase they dont catch and you should be licking your chops when playing against them. bad players show up with bad hands. Fair most likely put him on either a set or a hand like 6-5 that got there on the river. against a good player its a very tough call, against a guy who's probably a donk you should end up doing it more often than you might think, fool.

[mm1k3y]

lol wat a fag that guy pretendin he was bluffin with his wueen jack haha like yeh im good what a bluff... fuck off you thaught it was right! donk!

[JolleyEFC]

I don't know who's the bigger donkey. The guy playing with QJ or the guy who actually found a guys tell and then lets him know!!

[Leezzyy]

@JolleyEFC Maybe it's a bluff and Fair didn't had a read on him, but he thinks he has and now he's gonna play worse because he's constantly thinking about it.. And btw, before calling him a donk, he has been a 1000 times succesfuller than you in poker I bet..

[imluvinyourmum]

@JolleyEFC pretty standard for people to say this, they think it makes u scared to play with them. I just ignore it and carry on as usual, they're full of sht 99% of the time.

Playing QJ this way isnt so bad either, the guy is showing clear weakness by calling down a donk bet on the flop and a con donk bet on the turn, so why not fire again? if Fair raises on the river though he can never call, the passive move would be to check call but i think a bet fold is fine

[GreenRipeAvocado]

Why do people keep putting forward the line of spurious reasoning that if Fair thought he had the best hand on the turn he should have called the river, and if not, he should have folded the turn? By extension, Zackey should have called all the way or folded top pair on the flop itself which is clearly nonsense. The fact that Zackey leads out again on the river is additional information regarding the hand that now has to be factored in and can influence his opinion.

[alive2k7]

@GreenRipeAvocado

YES, +1000 this reasoning is the biggest mistakes that lowstakes players make.

Zackey's betting range on the river is not the same that on the turn (eg a str8 got there with 56 on the river) + range become more and more polarized after each street, Zackey is 3barreling "nut" hands (like 2 pairs, str8,sets) and bluffs maybe (if he is able of 3barreling bluff), only a donk is gonna 3barrel a medium top pair hand like QT-QJ

[elcomedian66]

once again a terrible player drags a pot by getting someone to fold the best hand because they overplay their garbage. playing QJ this way in that spot make almost no sense. You should almost always call the donkeys. dont overthink the situation. They always show up with something that makes no sense.

[EdDy4RheelZ]

True. Even though I hate Fair, you say it the best. That QJ thought he had the best hand and keeps betting continuously. Many donks fall in love with top pair low kicker. I remember getting 4-betted by pair of Kings, ten kicker. I called because I have Ace King with a flush draw and surprisingly, I was ahead and completed my flush to end it. But I thought I was behind bcz I assumed he had a set since he 4-betted me. Overreading can be quite a problem against new players and donkeys.

[mm1k3y]

@elcomedian66 exactly like... uhhhh i got a 4 and a 7 oh 2 pair... u have aces oh i win yay poker is good... thats why its hard to call donks... i hate donkeys with a passion.