Out Run MSX

[AlirazaVideoGames]

great arcade music

[saigokun]

@AlirazaVideoGames

Yes indeed it is :)

[davidpfol]

well, at least the ferrari was red.

[saigokun]

@davidpfol

Thankfully it wasn't green :D

[darkofdaytona]

@saigokun no it's already green. and i know when the car crashes.

[MultiLeoVideos]

can you help me? i cant run this game on bluemsx. i try to run the game and i give a syntax error in 150.

[MultiLeoVideos]

@MultiLeoVideos I managed to run the game. was added only one line of code goes like:

145 Goto 160

[saigokun]

@MultiLeoVideos

I am glad all worked out.:)

[3styler1]

most of the MSX games were ports of spectrum games which made it a little harder to run on the MSX not because of hardware faults but because of the code been run the ports wernt full ports of a game they could be direct ports which meant sumtimes the MSX wud have to try and emulate in a fashion a spectrum code, if the games had been made 1st on the MSX they would probably have run better than the spectrum versions

[saigokun]

@3styler1

Most of the European games released on the MSX were indeed Spectrum conversions. They typically 'inherited' the problems of the Spectrum. The best games on the MSX were of course those that were programmed on an MSX.

[3styler1]

@saigokun yea was a shame realy that the msx wasnt as big over in the western world as the other computers of the time hardware wise it held up pretty good and would have had some good software produced had it not been a late comer to the market

[saigokun]

@3styler1

Yes indeed, although it was quite popular in Holland (where I live), and Spain. But the US and UK markets were already saturated with Atari and Spectrums respectively.

[BasG74]

I had both the original MSX and MSX2 versions. I loved Out Run in the arcades but unfortunately both MSX versions were disappointing. I had the MSX version on disk, it came with a musicassette with the original arcade music which was a nice touch. Although Konami's Hyper Rally is older (1985) I think it's a better game.

[saigokun]

@BasG74

Thanks for your reply. MSX didn't get the best Out Run versions unfortunately. Hyper Rally, which I also uploaded on Youtube, has indeed better playability. Stil both MSX Out Run versions are not too bad though.

[saigokun]

@BasG74

Speaking of alternatives, try Carry Lab's Mad Rider for the MSX2. I uploaded a clip of that game too.

[mamupark]

デン！デデン！デデン！

なんだこの「MagicalSoundShower音頭」はw

[Fabione77]

Nothing against Spectrum,but on the Msx we've a red Ferrari instead of green,and the sound is much better !

[DAZZYVANDAM]

love the music on this version i read on a comment below that this was a spectrum conversion...........i love the speccy but out run on the spec was really poor... msx version runs a hell of alot smoother and nicer.

[kraut1x]

Sad to see that the MSX was not used to the full potential! Thanks for the upload!

[saigokun]

@kraut1x

You are welcome. Yes the MSX market received a lot of conversions from the Spectrum. Only a few games actually made ful use of the capacities of the MSX (this phenomenon is of course not unique to MSX).

[estlib]

the msx could have done alot better than this

[saigokun]

@estlib

Please don't blame the MSX, it was a Spectrum conversion. Blame the 'programmer(s)' :)

[estlib]

@saigokun k

[saigokun]

@estlib

The MSX got a lot of bad conversion from the Spectrum. :( But I like some of the conversions. Like Death Wish III :)

[2totok]

＼でん／＼ででん／＼ででん／

[MiracleKD18]

Music is awesome. Believe me, it's much better than the original. This is awesome 8 bit music. The original was hispanic shit.

[saigokun]

@cant1rac

Thanks for your elaborate comment. I agree that many of the Spectrum games fared badly in comparison with games of similar platforms, especially with regards to colour and game play. The MSX system got it own share of Speccy conversions. I have always wondered how many MSX games were converted to the Speccy. Nevertheless there were some pretty good Spectrum conversions released for the MSX. Some of them real classics. Also there were a lot of MSX only games that were pretty bad too.

[saigokun]

@cant1rac

Continued from my previous post. Have you tried to play Eaglesoft's/Aackosoft's Jet Fighter (1985). One of the worst games ever to be released on the MSX system as for playability (non existent). Be glad the Speccy never got that game.

[cant1rac]

@saigokun actual agree with you there are lots of bad msx games, but the msx died along time before spectrum amstrad and commadore, so it exagerates it. most of the best games came out in the later half of the 80's when the msx was commercially dead.

i had jetfighter and it was a turd agree with that 100%

but the spectrum couldnt compete with the best on the msx c64 or amstrad, look at the speedball on the c64 or batman the movie on the amstrad, or most of the konami made catridges for the msx.

[cant1rac]

i actually like the speccy, it has its own charm!

i have owned all the major 8 bit machines.

and the spectrum certainly wasnt unplayable or not enjoyable.

but it is the most over hyped machine.

and the word speccy port, always ment you were getting a sub standard game, with poor color, sound and controls, what every machine you owned.

look at the joystick contollers the color clash. most games consisted of 2 or 3 colors and the sound so it could go through that crap little speaker in the 48k

[saigokun]

@cant1rac

Reacting to both your replies: first I cannot agree with you that the MSX was commercially dead in the latter half of the 1980. Quite the contrary. During those years the MSX was very succesfull commercially. Mainly because the MSX2 system was released. There were a lot of companies involved. MSX was ended in 1992/3.

Yes, most Speccy games could not compete with the games on similar systems (although they often did great intro music, like the games of Gremlin Graphics).

[cant1rac]

@saigokun im afraid in the uk, where i'm from.. i can only speak from my experience.

msx from the outset were very hard to find within a few years of me getting one for my xmas, by 87 games had dried up completely, and i had to get new games from a few people locally copying what they had and i copying what i had.

msx was a comlete commerical faliure in the uk, sold better else where. the only selling model was the toshiba hx10

msx 2 is compatable but a different system

[saigokun]

@cant1rac

Ah now I understand. Of course the UK was Spectrum country. But here in the Netherlands MSX, and especially MSX2, was a huge succes. The succes started in 1985. This was also due because Philips was involved in the design and production of the MSX. Here it main competitor was the C64.

[cant1rac]

@saigokun yeah yeah sadly in the uk we never had msx 2, think you could have ordered it, but ive never seen one here.

over here amstrad msx in particular were swamped with poor spectrum converstions.

i mean ive ownd a spectrum, they have a charming little personality of its own.

like the atari vcs/2600 was technicaly inferiour to the colecovision, but it had an amzing charm and a good games collection.

loved the commadore 64, that and the msx are my faviourite 80's 8 bit machines.

[saigokun]

@cant1rac

Continued: Often Spectrum games were plagued by bad controls. I like XY-bots (Domark) but the bad controls in that game make it quite difficult to play it. Cosmic Shock Absorber (Martech) is one of the worst games to screen on both MSX and Spectrum (mainly due to bad playability and the player having almost no chance at all). Out Run was converted from the Spectrum (and has great music) but the game play and graphics are troublesome to say the least. But I like this game :).

[cant1rac]

@saigokun not saying i dont like the game, not saying i dont even like the spectrum.

but a speccy port always ment a poor game, what ever machine you were on.

(fine for playing on a spectrum, but not for better hardware)

spectrum got in first cheaply, was never a match for the other machines.

but that dosent mean its not a fun little system. i like the speccy.

but the last thing you wanted if you own the more expensive machines was a port playing to the spectrums limitations

[saigokun]

@cant1rac

I completely agree with you. I always wondered why those conversions were still hampered by the limitations of the Speccy when being converted to a better system. I guess it is also due to lazy reprogramming.

[cant1rac]

@saigokun really like to get a msx 2 at some point, i've too many retro machines about just know, and ebay prices are very steep for anything msx.

might actualy get a spectrum, after complaining about them....lol

there cheap as chips over here.

thank you for the converstaion

[saigokun]

@cant1rac

You are welcome.

If you like you should go to msx(dot)org. A big website dedicated to the MSX (community). Sometimes people offer hardware for sale. Perhaps you can even find a Turbo-R (the fourth and last generation of the MSX platform). But prices are not cheap of course. I guess there is an abundance of old Spectrums in the UK.

[kreggspam]

This just looks like a bad pirate port of the original arcade.

[bazfanv2]

And i thought the Atari St version was bad.

[saigokun]

@bazfanv2

This version isn't that bad :) it has some good music.

[AllPro777]

This shit is horrible.

[axise100]

What a Crap!, it's worst than the spectrum version, I wonder why MSX was limited to spectrum conversions.

¡Que pedazo de basura!, tiene peores movimientos que la Spectrum 48K, el MSX se limitó casi siempre a conversiones baratas desde el Spectrum.

[paulisthebest3uk]

Wow, never saw this version before, it does look a lot like the spectrum version, however they is quite a bit of difference, but wow!

[saigokun]

Hi Paul,

Thanks for your comment. I sometimes view your reviews too. You have a nice channel.

The MSX version is a conversion of the Spectrum one. The music is good in this version.

Perhaps you should see the MSX2 version as well, I also posted that one.

[Hoerentoeter74]

When I bought this and loaded into my msx, I was surely disappointed.

[saigokun]

I am sure that it was for many people. Although the music is good though.

But we are dealing with a Spectrum conversion of course.

[MiggyRGB]

it' faster as it is synchronized to 60hz NTSC TV Signal instead of the 50hz PAL signal you may be used to.

[musicmaniac1965]

oh man, now this is fun to see. current gamers who did not had to endure this kind of quallity of home conversions will never know what it was like to play this at home when the real thing was much more fun to play and had much better graphics :-)

but thanks for posting this nostalgic trip to memory lane :-D

[saigokun]

You are welcome and yes you are right.

Although I like this version too. Especially the music of it.

[musicmaniac1965]

for a msx, this indeed sounds rather good. i wish i had one at that time. but i went for the commodore64. but that had also enough exelent games (for its time).

[saigokun]

"You really missed exciting times!", that's what my C64 friends say to me. :)

[musicmaniac1965]

well, what you did not had, you can't miss. ofcourse everyone has his/her own favorite computer from back then. and at that time, i had not enough money to buy them all, so ofcourse there are games we missed out on. but, just like now, there are also manny games brought out to every computer from that time. OutRun is one of them :-)

i just enjoy what i had, and not thinking about what i missed out on. still we can always see what we missed on youtube :-P

[saigokun]

Indeed, you are right of course. I too enjoy thinking of those fun hours I had.

I like watching on Youtube versions of MSX games released on other platforms. One of the great advantages of sites like this I think.

[MiggyRGB]

The music is identical to the Atari ST conversion. The MSX gameplay was better though!

[JayArgonaut]

lol the music would be identical, the ST, MSX, Spectrum 128 all had the same sound chip :)

[undocumentedspot]

@JayArgonaut it was port from spectrum 48K which does not have PSG. therefore MSX-1 out run has better music . I first played out run on MSX 1 and it was very memorable, even with its crappy graphic and bugs, the most obvious fun in it, is the music.

[iamstormtrooper]

i cant get the msx emulator to work. afer i open up a gaim, the intro keeps popin up saing msx. its getting annoying

[saigokun]

Perhaps I can be of assistance.

What emulator are you using? I always use Bluemsx, which works fine for me.

Perhaps the file is corrupted. Or perhaps you should check whether the emulator is set on the correct MSX machine, some games are specifically for MSX1 and can not run in the MSX2 mode. Perhaps you must change or insert the poke.

I hope this helps you out.

[undocumentedspot]

One of the best for MSX, I loved the music, and I think better than MSX 2 version

[saigokun]

Many people would agree with you I think. I also think that the music in this version was better.

[uggla03]

defo a speccy port with added colour and the sound comes from the speccy 128/atari st i had both machines lol

[MiggyRGB]

It's a pitty, I think the MSX has sprite hardware so could probably been a nudge better

[rainxxxx]

ive got the msx versions and they are like the master system, not the speccy, even the title screen on this is the speccy's.

[saigokun]

Not surprising of course. the MSX1 version is either a direct conversion of the Spectrum version or it was programmed at the same time by US-gold. There are minor differences between the Spectrum version and this one.

[Zingo33]

Seeing the MSX1 and MSX2 versions I think the MSX1 version looks more playable. Collecting original MSX games I will probably buy both versions, but use the MSX1 version to play with.

Generally the games ported from Spectrum to MSX often sucked I am afraid.

[saigokun]

In my opinion the both are very playable but I remember reading a review about the MSX1 version that said that the car was difficult to control.

[saigokun]

MSX was a system created by a consortium of Japanese, Korean and Dutch companies. The software for it came mainly from Japan but in Europe, Great Britain (like US Gold), Spain and The Netherlands were it's main software and game providers. These companies also produced games for the Spectrum. Several games were ported from the Spectrum to the MSX1. I don't know how many games were ported from the MSX system to the Spectrum, but I doubt they were many.

I hope this answers your question.

[NotATube]

To be honest, MSX wasn't very successful in the UK. I can hardly remember seeing any games for it at all. (Even less support than my 8-bit Atari!). Probably because MSX came out here circa late 1984, by which time there were already many well-established 8-bit formats.

I think it did quite well in the Netherlands because (as you suggest) a Dutch company was involved.

[saigokun]

Yes, you are right. When the MSX arrived in the UK the market was already occupied by Spectrums , BBC's and C64's.

In the Netherlands (introduction in 1983) it was quite successful thanks to Philips and Sony. It became really a success after the introduction of the MSX2 in 1987.

Several Dutch software companies did make a lot of MSX games.

[rainxxxx]

it looks like a speccy hack, is this a port over from the speccy to the msx? the music's faster and slightly more polished

[kalateur]

it's almost identical to Speccy Version but better sound and... the car is red!!! thx for uploading!!!

[saigokun]

Your are welcome,

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