theres no question that the saturday sabbath is very important to God. what confuses me is that i've gone to churches on saturday and sunday and i haven't experienced any more rest by going to church on saturday than sunday. its all about resting on the sabbath, so going to church doesn't really matter as a matter of fact it can be more stressful to go to church on saturday than doing whatever else brings you joy an peace and rest.
I understand what you mean. Keeping Sabbath is not going to church. Going to church is the fruit of keeping the Sabbath. Because the Sabbath is to be kept Holy, you want to be around people of the same mindset
Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
PPL CAN SAY WAY THEY WANT AND IT SEEMS TTH THOSE THT HV THINGS TO SAY KNO THE TRUTH BUT REFUSE TO RECEIVE AND THE LORD WILL NOT FORCE IT ON U BUT REMEMEBER THT THE 1 TRU UNFORGIVEABLE SIN IS THT REJECTION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. SO AS U MAY SAY THT IT IS OR ISNT WHEN THE LORD SPEAKS TO U ,I PRAY 4 U TO LISTEN
@blackgold161 I wish what you said was true, but Jesus does not rule this world. Satan does, he is the Prince of this world, and in Genesis we humans were given dominion (control) now that sin has entered into us sin is in control. Yes, Jesus is KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, and upon his return HE will rule this world!!!! I fearfully and anxiously await that day. Until then this is a sinful, corrupt, and evil world. Jesus will change all of that!
@blackgold161 I wish what you said was true, but Jesus does not rule this world. Satan does, he is the Prince of this world, and in Genesis we humans were given dominion (control) now that sin has entered into us sin is in control. Yes, Jesus is KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, and upon his return HE will rule this world!!!! I fearfully and anxiously await that day. Until then this is a sinful, corrupt, and evil world. Jesus will change all of that!
After I was "Born of the Spirit" many years ago, I was shown the true Sabbath. I don't have to PROVE it to anyone...The Jews have known for centuries and abide by it. The Lord also showed me that FLESH was NOT TO BE EATEN. A few months later Mad Cow broke out in England. Finally I prayed in desperation for the Lord to show me a group/church/temple/assembly that "saw" these truths. I was led to Messianism and Sister White's books! The Spirit confirmed these revelations were so.!
Spiritual abuse is when your elected leaders brainwash your sons and daughters to travel to another country and kill other humans so they can secure natural ressouces.
If a sick and evil cult leader managed to persaude you to kill another human and that it was God's will, and that God will bless us...
Most decent humans would be horrified.
And yet, this is exactly what has happened...
To the whole of the United States and allies.
But it is only the US who claims God's blessing...
for all of you that are worry about the sabath been still a present truth just read the ten commandments in exodus 20 and if you think that the sabath was abbolished by Christ then you have to throw the other 9 commandments out the window also read James 2:10 niv. then read Isaiah 66:22 so From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me," says the lord. niv. what make people think that we don't have to honor the sabath now?????
Old "antychrist" Monroe talking lies about sect of 7th day adventists and how we supposted to have mass on Saturday only! Wrong, it`s Sunday like apostoles had
"...And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow;and continued his speech until midnight." Acts 20,6-7
Thanks for your comment but Acts 20:6-7 is not talking about Sabbath keeping. This meeting was held till saturday night which explains the fact the they continued until the morning. Remember that the day begins at sunset and they did not meet at sunset.
The Sabbath goes alot further than just church attendance. It goes very deep. I can let you know in depth if you like so it is more clearer
Your logic is flawed. The apostles followed the mosiac calander. Days were dictated by sun up to sundown. A change in night would thus imply a change in day. Acts 20:6,7. This is historical fact. Need more proof ? Read Acts 13:42 "And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the GENTILES besought that these words might be preached to them THE NEXT SABBATH." PLEASE TRUST THE BIBLE!
there is no need to argue, we honor and love God we keep Sabbath as its a gift and its a sign and a day of Lord that Man shall worship Him with all his might and that he leaves his personnal and other things aside but just focus on His walk wtih God and Worship and Glorify the King Jesus and his Holy Spirits.
Lev 23:7 In the first day you shall have a holy convocation: you shall do no work therein.
Exd 12:16 And in the first day there shall be a holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be a holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.
@Dwrancho144 but u must understand that father him self sign the 7th day in genesis 2:2-3 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. GOD did not blessed the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th day he blessed the 7th day from all his work jus for us to worship him and give him thanks
My friend it is all well and good leaving a Bible verse to explain a point but don't add out of context verses like saying if we deny this we deny Christ because that is unbiblical.
Read the context of the verse. What was the issue? The Pharisees saying that Christ is not keeping the Sabbath because He healed. So you can understand that when John said as Christ broke the Sabbath, it was based on the mindset on the Pharisees.
Exactly my point. Your looking at the Sabbath from its outward sphere. You need to look at the character. We see examples like you mentioned with God telling the Israelites to destroy the people on Sinai as of their idolatry. Why is it that many Christians have no problem with the other 9 but the Sabbath when God tells us to remember it?
And thats the preconceived idea you have that going to church on saturday means keeping the Sabbath. You can go to church all you want and still break the Sabbath. I did a reply vid to your video. Watch it when you can
@Jondadon2006 Lev 23:7 In the first day you shall have a holy convocation: you shall do no work therein.
Exd 12:16 And in the first day there shall be a holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be a holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.
First of all my friend you are not saved by works, you are saved by grace. Jesus said to Nichodemus, John 3:3 "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." My Friend the Sabbath is just a blessing when you are saved, its not a challenge or a burdden. Matthew 11:28 "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." God is wise in knowing the only way man can get to know him is to spend time with him. I hope this helps.
My friend it is up to you if you want to disobey a clear thus saith the Lord but when you say God didn't rest on the Sabbath, you need to go back to the time when there was no sin. God rested on the 7th day because of His works completed of creation. When we rest on that day, it is for us to acknowledge God as Creator
Can't you find anything better to do with your time? Go out and help someone who is down and out; feed someone who is hungry; learn how to teach others how to become a contributing, tax-paying member of the community. First set an example - if you believe then act like it. Get a real job, not one where you hide behind the church and your tax exemptions so you can depend on the welfare of the rest of us. Instead become a taxpaying member of the community and give thanks for country you live in.
@TaintedSainte Cant you find anything better to do with your time? Its evident that you dont hold any place in your heart for the Father-So-why would you waste your time trolling on another Christians channel? Tax paying?! thats real funny-because income tax is totally unconstitutional-so your saying why not just be a sheep and give thanks to Big Brother!-Your too funny!
I've never heard of this nonsense. If its real, why not put up a video with proof instead of "Keep the Faith" and your pathological lies and hatred of our only savior, the Honorable President, Mr. Barak Obama, of whom I voted for, support and wholly adore.
I've never heard of this nonsense. If its real, why not put up a video with proof instead of "Keep the Faith" and your pathological lies and hatred of our only savior, the Honorable President, Mr. Barak Obama, of whom I voted for, support and wholly adore.
Question: How hard would it have been not to eat the fruit off that tree Adam ate from? You are talking about a command(sabbath) that contains numerous orders, but Adam had only one...Don't eat the fruit of the tree in the midst of the garden...and he ate it.
Do you really think its as easy as you think to keep the sabbath? Don't forget sin isn't just in deed, but also in word. The point of the law was to show that NO man keeps it, and we're ALL guilty and need Jesus.
On the seventh day God rested and Hallowed it. It is the only day in the Bible that he hallowed. I believe that since Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden that there line of communication was so close that they knew God commandments (it was written on there hearts).
Now as a Sabbath keeper for the past decade and a half it is a blessing to be able to keep all ten commandment. But just like any other commandment you can sin in your mind against God such as thinking about money on the Sabb
The biggest thing to realize is that when the bible speaks of the seventh day it says God rested, it doesn't say Adam and eve rested too...and no where else in the bible do we see anyone before Moses keeping the sabbath...rather the scriptures tell us that it was revealed to Moses.
The sabbath is not like the murder or stealing command in which you know that if someone does it to you you'll be hurt, doesn't take anyone telling you that it will, it's there in thought already.
The sabbath is not one of the things that you know automatically...kids however know automatically that they've been wronged when someone takes their toy(steals from them). A man or woman gets hurt when their spouse sleeps with another.
These things are written in them in their conscience the same thing adam and eve received when they ate the fruit. The sabbath however has to be shared, like any other special holiday, or special day...It's not something man knows from childhood.
The first four commandments are between you and God the other 6 are between you and man. Also notice that the 4th commandment is the only one that starts out with the word remember. Its because He knew we would forget.
ALso God wrote the ten commandments with His own hand. The only reason He had to write down the ten commandments is because after the flood we started to forget His character that is his word. Who is to say that they didnt keep the 4th commandment?
Interesting thing though. The stone tablets were placed into an ark where they couldn't see them anyway...so when the people wanted to know what God said to what book did they go? What book revealed the law to them?
In what book was the law given, and where was it placed so that it might be a witness against the people?
Remember you said the people had a habit of forgetting..and in that I agree..so they needed something to remind them that they needed God...Where was the book placed so that it could be accessed?
For example, where could they go to read of what they could and couldn't do on the sabbath? Where could they go to find out what they had to do on each day, or what meats were clean and unclean?
The laws that were given to moses (not talking about the ten commandments) were laws to be placed to help guide them because they were still "babies" spiritually and remember the person that got stoned for picking up sticks on the Sabbath? God was serious about what he writes down. I think before we go on and discuss anything any further I must say that if you don't believe that the ten commandments are real and God actually wrote what it saids in Exodus then we can not discuss any further.
The bible is real, everything contained within it's pages is real, so yes I believe the law of God is very real.
My question to you is: do you know what was placed in the book of the law? What did the book of the law contain? Did it just contain sacrificial laws, if not, what did it all contain?
I think your jumping over certain subjects. You should really get down the word of God before you jump in the 1844 message. If you believe in the Bible and all that it says then it should not be hard for you to say "I will follow all of Gods commandments" Rev 14: 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Actually, I just made one post regarding something you said about 1844 and the translated and I haven't brought it up again. My question to you in my last few posts has been:
What was contained within the book of the law? Do you know?
I saw your questions. But it is hard to answer those questions if you believe that since the 10 commandments were left in the ark then you don't know what could have actually of been written on them.
I didn't say that one couldn't 'know' what was written on them. I said that they were placed into the ark so they couldn't see the writing on them...and thus they could very easily pretend that they said something different, and forget the truth....so, again it comes down to the question..what was contained within the book placed in the side of the ark that was said to be a witness against them?
I'm curious as to what YOU, not myself, believes was contained within the book of the law...so what I believe has no effect on what you believe, so its a question that you can easily answer on your own thoughts, not based on what I think.
So..what do you believe was contained within the book of the law?
THe book of the law were the laws that were given to moses (not the ten commandments. THose were on the outside of the ark and inside the ark were the ten commandments and mana.
@abendugo your rite the book of laws was wit jesus christ when he was on the cross not the ten commandments cuz the 10th commandment was writing by the father him self not man
to add on that....the ten commandments are in the temple in heaven where Christ intercedes for...remembr the temple that moses built was the immitation of the one in heaven
Well you can call it unchristian if you want but we are not going to stop. Especially when we see signs in Croatia and Germany that are warming up to the main sunday law. Just like the Jews of old, if you close your heart to the message, you will not receive it when it comes. They rejected Johns message and because of that, no matter what Christ did, from the most amazing miracles to the witness of the romans seeing the angel roll away the stone, they didn't believe.
First of all they were not placed in the ark just so that people couldn't see it. Usually when I see a question like that I know that the person on the other side already knows what I am going to say and they have an answer just waiting when I post mine. So instead of walking into that one ill just let you answer your own question and we can go from there.
That`s like saying.. why do I bother to find out about what others believe when I believe something else...It`s easier to understand other people once you know what they believe.
What I believe isn`t necessarily what they believe, thus the reason for the question.
Ok, that's a fair point, I see your reasoning for that. the man actually told you though he didn't want to answer you because of other answers you had given.
I'll look forward to your video Patricia, try to stick to facts please.
I just have a theory. Obama is getting all the conservative Christians very upset by allowing gays into the Army and having tax payers pay for abortions n such. After his term possibly Americans will vote for the total opposite of what Obama is.
Over the years we have all been lied to by many false Religous Leaders and so called prophets. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false leaders. If you are a truth seeker please visit the web site which is displayed in our user name and take the time to read some of the articles... You will be very shocked.
There is a great audio there for you to listen to. You will come away asking many questions.
I challenge all the Christians in the entire planet -layman and church leaders alike- to pray God that the volcanic eruption I stated below would not happen:
"Before this year will be over, 2 volcanic eruptions will shake the United States of America. The name of these volcanoes had something to do with faith."
If despite of your prayer these faithful volcanoes had erupted, then, know and understand that God is with me, therefore you are under obligation to listen to me
Hmm, I hope you will learn that the color of skin shall not be judged. All hearts are the same color, aren't they? Out brains out the same color, aren't they? YOU need to GET a life AND STOP being a Christian hater! He's the one that made your little trashy butt, because He loved YOU even though He KNEW you would trash Him! God Bless you, dude!
I would like to hear more about amalgamation a DNA union between man and beast as it is written by SDA prophet. But I wasn"t able to find much, accept in "early writings". Would you please be so kind to make so kind of a presentation about this subject.
Lovey, God loves variety we see that in colors and sizes of human beings,plants and animals.He foreknew that the choice of a sinful life will lead people to discriminate against those who are different,yet he went ahead and created the world."If any one wants to boast,he should boast that he knows me.Jer 9:24
Jesus, yielded up the ghost behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying Truly this was the Son of God.
Hmmmm. How could those people have gone to Heaven if they had not been judged in the investigative judgment, which supposedly began with judging Adam in 1844? Something dosent ring true.
Didn't Moses, Elijah and Enoch go to heaven before the investigative judgement? Mt 17:5,Heb 11:5Holysatunius,keep your on Jesus and you will never go wrong.
Because if you think about it, how were they allowed to gain access to Heaven but Christ had not died for them? It was a special previllage so you can't use that as an example.
It is quite simple if you think about it. Christ is coming back and His reward is with Him to give to every man ACCORDING to His work. So if He is giving every man to what they have done, there must have been an investigation to make sure each man gets theirs.
An omniscient God does not need an Investigative Judgement so he is doing it for our sake during this long atonement day.1 Cor 6:2.That "special previlege" is called grace;it is an unmerited favor of all that God has done for us in the past,in the present and will do for us in the future through Christ.1.Freedom from the penalty of past sins through faith in Christ in type or antitype Rm 5:1 2.Freedom from the dominion of sin Rm:6:14 and 3. freedom from the presence of sin in the future.
We had better make sure we are calling the Savior and lover of our souls by the correct name, then. It most certainly was not Jesus, since He was Hebrew. Study to show yourselves approved!
There is no need for those words. Who are you to say who gets who. You are born on this planet like everybody else. When you say that word, you are talking about me too so please watch your language. I forgive you. Thanks God bless
Evolution is a lie. Witchcraft is a lie. New Age is a lie. Scientology is a lie. Hollywood is a lie. Rock music is a lie.
The Bible is TRUTH. Jesus is TRUTH. God is TRUTH. God loves you and sent Jesus to die for you so that you can be saved. Don't miss out friend, time is very short.
theres no question that the saturday sabbath is very important to God. what confuses me is that i've gone to churches on saturday and sunday and i haven't experienced any more rest by going to church on saturday than sunday. its all about resting on the sabbath, so going to church doesn't really matter as a matter of fact it can be more stressful to go to church on saturday than doing whatever else brings you joy an peace and rest.
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I understand what you mean. Keeping Sabbath is not going to church. Going to church is the fruit of keeping the Sabbath. Because the Sabbath is to be kept Holy, you want to be around people of the same mindset
Heb 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
Jondadon2006 2 months ago
How sad...how sad!
midterngrades 5 months ago
PPL CAN SAY WAY THEY WANT AND IT SEEMS TTH THOSE THT HV THINGS TO SAY KNO THE TRUTH BUT REFUSE TO RECEIVE AND THE LORD WILL NOT FORCE IT ON U BUT REMEMEBER THT THE 1 TRU UNFORGIVEABLE SIN IS THT REJECTION OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. SO AS U MAY SAY THT IT IS OR ISNT WHEN THE LORD SPEAKS TO U ,I PRAY 4 U TO LISTEN
2468tmj 8 months ago
JESUS will not set his foot on this sinfull earth again
wizerstar 9 months ago
Obama will never be the president of the world. y because Jesus rules it
blackgold161 10 months ago
@blackgold161 I wish what you said was true, but Jesus does not rule this world. Satan does, he is the Prince of this world, and in Genesis we humans were given dominion (control) now that sin has entered into us sin is in control. Yes, Jesus is KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, and upon his return HE will rule this world!!!! I fearfully and anxiously await that day. Until then this is a sinful, corrupt, and evil world. Jesus will change all of that!
eagan1573 10 months ago 2
@eagan1573 but by beliveing Jesus rules it makes me feel better
blackgold161 10 months ago
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@blackgold161 I wish what you said was true, but Jesus does not rule this world. Satan does, he is the Prince of this world, and in Genesis we humans were given dominion (control) now that sin has entered into us sin is in control. Yes, Jesus is KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, and upon his return HE will rule this world!!!! I fearfully and anxiously await that day. Until then this is a sinful, corrupt, and evil world. Jesus will change all of that!
eagan1573 10 months ago
GOD LOVE US BUT WHY DO YOU HATE HIM?
lyra12padua 1 year ago
@lyra12padua
A very solemn question. God have mercy on us
Jondadon2006 1 year ago
@Jondadon2006 your right
lyra12padua 1 year ago
After I was "Born of the Spirit" many years ago, I was shown the true Sabbath. I don't have to PROVE it to anyone...The Jews have known for centuries and abide by it. The Lord also showed me that FLESH was NOT TO BE EATEN. A few months later Mad Cow broke out in England. Finally I prayed in desperation for the Lord to show me a group/church/temple/assembly that "saw" these truths. I was led to Messianism and Sister White's books! The Spirit confirmed these revelations were so.!
Taharah007 1 year ago 6
@Taharah007
Amen sister
Jondadon2006 1 year ago 2
Spiritual abuse is when your elected leaders brainwash your sons and daughters to travel to another country and kill other humans so they can secure natural ressouces.
If a sick and evil cult leader managed to persaude you to kill another human and that it was God's will, and that God will bless us...
Most decent humans would be horrified.
And yet, this is exactly what has happened...
To the whole of the United States and allies.
But it is only the US who claims God's blessing...
wildnatureboy 1 year ago
for all of you that are worry about the sabath been still a present truth just read the ten commandments in exodus 20 and if you think that the sabath was abbolished by Christ then you have to throw the other 9 commandments out the window also read James 2:10 niv. then read Isaiah 66:22 so From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before me," says the lord. niv. what make people think that we don't have to honor the sabath now?????
elmensagero1 1 year ago 2
@elmensagero1 preach it. cant wait till we get back home
CHUNIOR05 1 year ago
@CHUNIOR05 keep it up brother, many need to know these truth. God bless you
elmensagero1 1 year ago
Old "antychrist" Monroe talking lies about sect of 7th day adventists and how we supposted to have mass on Saturday only! Wrong, it`s Sunday like apostoles had
"...And we sailed away from Philippi after the days of unleavened bread, and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.
And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow;and continued his speech until midnight." Acts 20,6-7
JezusSlave 1 year ago
@JezusSlave
Thanks for your comment but Acts 20:6-7 is not talking about Sabbath keeping. This meeting was held till saturday night which explains the fact the they continued until the morning. Remember that the day begins at sunset and they did not meet at sunset.
The Sabbath goes alot further than just church attendance. It goes very deep. I can let you know in depth if you like so it is more clearer
Jondadon2006 1 year ago 15
@JezusSlave
Your logic is flawed. The apostles followed the mosiac calander. Days were dictated by sun up to sundown. A change in night would thus imply a change in day. Acts 20:6,7. This is historical fact. Need more proof ? Read Acts 13:42 "And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the GENTILES besought that these words might be preached to them THE NEXT SABBATH." PLEASE TRUST THE BIBLE!
hopgoblin1 1 year ago
@hopgoblin1 YOU ARE WRONG!
ARE YOU PRETENDING OR REALLY DON`T UNDERSTANT FACTS?
THEY WERE TRYING TO CONVINCE JEWS AND IT WASN`T` EVEN PROPER THANKS GIVING, BRAKING THE BREAD LIKE IN ACTS 20:6,7
WE ARE CHRISTIANS AND JEWS IN JESUS CHRIST NOW IN NEW COVENANT NOT GENTILES ANYMORE!!!
YOU ARE NEXT EXAMPLE THAT SOLA SCRIPTURA IS A SIN AND FOULT
LEAVE INTERPRETATIONS FOR REAL CHURCH!
JezusSlave 1 year ago
everyday is day for the lord
delicious797 7 months ago
@delicious797
Thats unbiblical my friend. The Sabbath is the Lords day
Mark 2:27, Isa 58
Jondadon2006 7 months ago
there is no need to argue, we honor and love God we keep Sabbath as its a gift and its a sign and a day of Lord that Man shall worship Him with all his might and that he leaves his personnal and other things aside but just focus on His walk wtih God and Worship and Glorify the King Jesus and his Holy Spirits.
Vince4Vince 1 year ago
the only way to know truly of what he says is through the bibe its a personal quest
padrefanman619 1 year ago
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Lev 23:7 In the first day you shall have a holy convocation: you shall do no work therein.
Exd 12:16 And in the first day there shall be a holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be a holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.
LOOK LIKE SATURDAY WAS ALSO A DAY OF REST
Dwrancho144 1 year ago
@Dwrancho144 but u must understand that father him self sign the 7th day in genesis 2:2-3 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made. GOD did not blessed the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th day he blessed the 7th day from all his work jus for us to worship him and give him thanks
stutterthepimp 1 year ago
the definition of blasphemy is the crime of assuming to oneself the rights or qualities of God.
So if you called yourself God that would be blasphemy
But that law obviously doesn't imply to Jesus
Dwrancho144 1 year ago
John 5:18 says "Jesus not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God."
that's what John wrote in his gospel
IF YOU DENY THIS THEN YOU DENY CHRIST
AND IF YOU DENY THIS THEN YOU HATE GOD'S WORD WITH A PASSION
Rom 1:19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
Dwrancho144 1 year ago
@Dwrancho144
My friend it is all well and good leaving a Bible verse to explain a point but don't add out of context verses like saying if we deny this we deny Christ because that is unbiblical.
Read the context of the verse. What was the issue? The Pharisees saying that Christ is not keeping the Sabbath because He healed. So you can understand that when John said as Christ broke the Sabbath, it was based on the mindset on the Pharisees.
Jondadon2006 1 year ago
@Jondadon2006
that's what John wrote in his gospel
now it doesn't say "Jesus was just accused of braking the sabbath"
it says "HE DID BRAKE THE SABBATH"
just like it doesn't say that "HE was accused of saying that God was His Father"
it says "He did say God was His Father"
just like it does just simply say it this passage that "He was accused of making Himself equal with God"
NO NO NO
It say "He was making himself equal with God"
Dwrancho144 1 year ago
@Dwrancho144
Like I said to you, read the context because what John was saying is what the Pharisees was accusing Christ of.
Jondadon2006 1 year ago 3
@Jondadon2006
I read the whole chapter
Dwrancho144 1 year ago
@Jondadon2006
Jesus didn't sin by braking the sabbath
in the same way that God didn't sin by killing people in the Old Testament
"The LORD became angry with Uzzah, so God killed him there for his lack of respect. He died beside the ark of God."
2 Samuel 6:7
Psalm 78:34 When God killed some of them, the rest finally sought him. They repented and turned to God.
because "thou shall not kill" does not imply to God
In the same way the "sabbath law" did not imply to Jesus
Dwrancho144 1 year ago
@Dwrancho144
Exactly my point. Your looking at the Sabbath from its outward sphere. You need to look at the character. We see examples like you mentioned with God telling the Israelites to destroy the people on Sinai as of their idolatry. Why is it that many Christians have no problem with the other 9 but the Sabbath when God tells us to remember it?
Jondadon2006 1 year ago
@Jondadon2006
WHATS GOING TO HAPPEN IF I DON'T GO TO CHURCH ON THE SABBATH ???
WHAT IF I JUST WANNA REST ON THE SABBATH TO KEEP IT
DOES THAT MAKE ME EVIL ????
OR DOES THAT MEAN THAT I"M NOT SAVED ????
Dwrancho144 1 year ago
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And thats the preconceived idea you have that going to church on saturday means keeping the Sabbath. You can go to church all you want and still break the Sabbath. I did a reply vid to your video. Watch it when you can
Jondadon2006 1 year ago
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@Jondadon2006 Lev 23:7 In the first day you shall have a holy convocation: you shall do no work therein.
Exd 12:16 And in the first day there shall be a holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be a holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.
LOOK LIKE SATURDAY WAS ALSO A DAY OF REST
Dwrancho144 1 year ago
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First of all my friend you are not saved by works, you are saved by grace. Jesus said to Nichodemus, John 3:3 "Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." My Friend the Sabbath is just a blessing when you are saved, its not a challenge or a burdden. Matthew 11:28 "Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." God is wise in knowing the only way man can get to know him is to spend time with him. I hope this helps.
7thdayman 1 year ago
John 5:17 But Jesus answered them, "My Father has been working until now, and I have been working."
Jesus has been working sense creation and has never rested on the sabbath
the definition of keeping the sabbath is to obviously TO REST ON IT
Jesus never kept the sabbath because it wasn't made for him
Dwrancho144 1 year ago
@Dwrancho144
My friend it is up to you if you want to disobey a clear thus saith the Lord but when you say God didn't rest on the Sabbath, you need to go back to the time when there was no sin. God rested on the 7th day because of His works completed of creation. When we rest on that day, it is for us to acknowledge God as Creator
Jondadon2006 1 year ago
Can't you find anything better to do with your time? Go out and help someone who is down and out; feed someone who is hungry; learn how to teach others how to become a contributing, tax-paying member of the community. First set an example - if you believe then act like it. Get a real job, not one where you hide behind the church and your tax exemptions so you can depend on the welfare of the rest of us. Instead become a taxpaying member of the community and give thanks for country you live in.
TaintedSainte 1 year ago
@TaintedSainte Cant you find anything better to do with your time? Its evident that you dont hold any place in your heart for the Father-So-why would you waste your time trolling on another Christians channel? Tax paying?! thats real funny-because income tax is totally unconstitutional-so your saying why not just be a sheep and give thanks to Big Brother!-Your too funny!
Jeenyus1983 1 year ago
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I've never heard of this nonsense. If its real, why not put up a video with proof instead of "Keep the Faith" and your pathological lies and hatred of our only savior, the Honorable President, Mr. Barak Obama, of whom I voted for, support and wholly adore.
CorporateRule 1 year ago
I've never heard of this nonsense. If its real, why not put up a video with proof instead of "Keep the Faith" and your pathological lies and hatred of our only savior, the Honorable President, Mr. Barak Obama, of whom I voted for, support and wholly adore.
CorporateRule 1 year ago
@CorporateRule Your name says it all. If you want proof, search "Germany Sunday Law 2010". Don't be blind on purpose.
ghostgate82 1 year ago
ALl I see is a bunch of posters that have not done there reasearch in there bibles and on there knees. How hard is it to keep the 4th commandment?
abendugo 2 years ago 2
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Question: How hard would it have been not to eat the fruit off that tree Adam ate from? You are talking about a command(sabbath) that contains numerous orders, but Adam had only one...Don't eat the fruit of the tree in the midst of the garden...and he ate it.
Do you really think its as easy as you think to keep the sabbath? Don't forget sin isn't just in deed, but also in word. The point of the law was to show that NO man keeps it, and we're ALL guilty and need Jesus.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
On the seventh day God rested and Hallowed it. It is the only day in the Bible that he hallowed. I believe that since Adam and Eve walked with God in the Garden that there line of communication was so close that they knew God commandments (it was written on there hearts).
Now as a Sabbath keeper for the past decade and a half it is a blessing to be able to keep all ten commandment. But just like any other commandment you can sin in your mind against God such as thinking about money on the Sabb
abendugo 2 years ago 2
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The biggest thing to realize is that when the bible speaks of the seventh day it says God rested, it doesn't say Adam and eve rested too...and no where else in the bible do we see anyone before Moses keeping the sabbath...rather the scriptures tell us that it was revealed to Moses.
The sabbath is not like the murder or stealing command in which you know that if someone does it to you you'll be hurt, doesn't take anyone telling you that it will, it's there in thought already.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
@abendugo
The sabbath is not one of the things that you know automatically...kids however know automatically that they've been wronged when someone takes their toy(steals from them). A man or woman gets hurt when their spouse sleeps with another.
These things are written in them in their conscience the same thing adam and eve received when they ate the fruit. The sabbath however has to be shared, like any other special holiday, or special day...It's not something man knows from childhood.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
The first four commandments are between you and God the other 6 are between you and man. Also notice that the 4th commandment is the only one that starts out with the word remember. Its because He knew we would forget.
ALso God wrote the ten commandments with His own hand. The only reason He had to write down the ten commandments is because after the flood we started to forget His character that is his word. Who is to say that they didnt keep the 4th commandment?
abendugo 2 years ago 2
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Interesting thing though. The stone tablets were placed into an ark where they couldn't see them anyway...so when the people wanted to know what God said to what book did they go? What book revealed the law to them?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
If your going to go off of that form of logic then you might as well disregard the hole Bible.
abendugo 2 years ago 3
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In what book was the law given, and where was it placed so that it might be a witness against the people?
Remember you said the people had a habit of forgetting..and in that I agree..so they needed something to remind them that they needed God...Where was the book placed so that it could be accessed?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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@abendugo
For example, where could they go to read of what they could and couldn't do on the sabbath? Where could they go to find out what they had to do on each day, or what meats were clean and unclean?
What revealed the law to them in better detail?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
The laws that were given to moses (not talking about the ten commandments) were laws to be placed to help guide them because they were still "babies" spiritually and remember the person that got stoned for picking up sticks on the Sabbath? God was serious about what he writes down. I think before we go on and discuss anything any further I must say that if you don't believe that the ten commandments are real and God actually wrote what it saids in Exodus then we can not discuss any further.
abendugo 2 years ago
@abendugo
The bible is real, everything contained within it's pages is real, so yes I believe the law of God is very real.
My question to you is: do you know what was placed in the book of the law? What did the book of the law contain? Did it just contain sacrificial laws, if not, what did it all contain?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
I think your jumping over certain subjects. You should really get down the word of God before you jump in the 1844 message. If you believe in the Bible and all that it says then it should not be hard for you to say "I will follow all of Gods commandments" Rev 14: 12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
abendugo 2 years ago
@abendugo
Actually, I just made one post regarding something you said about 1844 and the translated and I haven't brought it up again. My question to you in my last few posts has been:
What was contained within the book of the law? Do you know?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
I saw your questions. But it is hard to answer those questions if you believe that since the 10 commandments were left in the ark then you don't know what could have actually of been written on them.
abendugo 2 years ago
@abendugo
I didn't say that one couldn't 'know' what was written on them. I said that they were placed into the ark so they couldn't see the writing on them...and thus they could very easily pretend that they said something different, and forget the truth....so, again it comes down to the question..what was contained within the book placed in the side of the ark that was said to be a witness against them?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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@abendugo
I'm curious as to what YOU, not myself, believes was contained within the book of the law...so what I believe has no effect on what you believe, so its a question that you can easily answer on your own thoughts, not based on what I think.
So..what do you believe was contained within the book of the law?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
THe book of the law were the laws that were given to moses (not the ten commandments. THose were on the outside of the ark and inside the ark were the ten commandments and mana.
abendugo 2 years ago 5
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@abendugo
I appreciate the response:) It's a little vague though. Do you mean the 603 other laws other than the ten commandments?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
@abendugo
My video is up regarding the book of the law
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
@abendugo your rite the book of laws was wit jesus christ when he was on the cross not the ten commandments cuz the 10th commandment was writing by the father him self not man
stutterthepimp 1 year ago
to add on that....the ten commandments are in the temple in heaven where Christ intercedes for...remembr the temple that moses built was the immitation of the one in heaven
nobalindi 11 months ago
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nobalindi 11 months ago
This sunday laws rubbish is very un-christian!!!
cornerstone111 2 years ago
exactly the sunday law is un-christian which is why we call people to God through the Sabbath
Jondadon2006 2 years ago 3
No, the SDA always harping on about the Sunday laws is rubbish and very un-Christian!!!
cornerstone111 2 years ago
Well you can call it unchristian if you want but we are not going to stop. Especially when we see signs in Croatia and Germany that are warming up to the main sunday law. Just like the Jews of old, if you close your heart to the message, you will not receive it when it comes. They rejected Johns message and because of that, no matter what Christ did, from the most amazing miracles to the witness of the romans seeing the angel roll away the stone, they didn't believe.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago 3
Sunday laws were in when I was a kid, there is nothing new about them. and they have been in and out of effect for the last 2000 years!!!
cornerstone111 2 years ago
And yet today it has happened in places like Croatia, Germany, attempted in the EU, Slovenia etc
Jondadon2006 2 years ago 2
I agree. I just stumbled upon this. A day for reflection is nat a bad thing.
ANTIDALLARD 2 years ago
Its also a day of rest from the world.
abendugo 2 years ago
First of all they were not placed in the ark just so that people couldn't see it. Usually when I see a question like that I know that the person on the other side already knows what I am going to say and they have an answer just waiting when I post mine. So instead of walking into that one ill just let you answer your own question and we can go from there.
abendugo 2 years ago 3
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Too be honest, I have no idea what you are going to say because no one else has bothered to answer the question,.
I do not know what you believe was contained within the book of the law, otherwise I wouldn't be asking.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
Patricia! Why are you asking stupid questions that you can answer yourself?
theonewillcome 2 years ago 3
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That`s like saying.. why do I bother to find out about what others believe when I believe something else...It`s easier to understand other people once you know what they believe.
What I believe isn`t necessarily what they believe, thus the reason for the question.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
Ok, that's a fair point, I see your reasoning for that. the man actually told you though he didn't want to answer you because of other answers you had given.
I'll look forward to your video Patricia, try to stick to facts please.
God bless!
theonewillcome 2 years ago 3
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@abendugo
Considering you don't wish to answer the question, I can only assume you don't know the answer.
I'll leave it for you to ponder.
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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@abendugo
for now anyway....I'm putting a video up regarding the book of the law in a few days hopefully. Keep watch:)
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
so when obama steps down as "president of the world", who will step up next ? will we have to live under THEIR laws ?
stonerj0e 2 years ago
I just have a theory. Obama is getting all the conservative Christians very upset by allowing gays into the Army and having tax payers pay for abortions n such. After his term possibly Americans will vote for the total opposite of what Obama is.
abendugo 2 years ago
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Over the years we have all been lied to by many false Religous Leaders and so called prophets. Many things we have been taught are not even in Scripture and millions have swallowed so many lies by these false leaders. If you are a truth seeker please visit the web site which is displayed in our user name and take the time to read some of the articles... You will be very shocked.
There is a great audio there for you to listen to. You will come away asking many questions.
Blessings
Thanks Ben
2besavedcom 2 years ago
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I challenge all the Christians in the entire planet -layman and church leaders alike- to pray God that the volcanic eruption I stated below would not happen:
"Before this year will be over, 2 volcanic eruptions will shake the United States of America. The name of these volcanoes had something to do with faith."
If despite of your prayer these faithful volcanoes had erupted, then, know and understand that God is with me, therefore you are under obligation to listen to me
conceil8 2 years ago
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LEAVE YOUR CHURCH! (faith in Christ alone is all that matters)
DO NOT BUY, DO NOT SELL (just help for free; give for free).
DESTROY ALL THE WORKS OF THE BEAST (be perfectly holy)
conceil8 2 years ago
How do you let the Lord have total control?
teapartyne1 2 years ago
By obeying His word above what we want and that comes through reading and studying the word of God
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Jesus the Almighty ! ! ! ! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
orlibonurb 2 years ago 11
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You're stupid. You don't put a space between and exclamation mark and a word. Um...duh?
twilighter9556 2 years ago
Can we please stop the arguing here. Thanks
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
Hmm, I hope you will learn that the color of skin shall not be judged. All hearts are the same color, aren't they? Out brains out the same color, aren't they? YOU need to GET a life AND STOP being a Christian hater! He's the one that made your little trashy butt, because He loved YOU even though He KNEW you would trash Him! God Bless you, dude!
twilighter9556 2 years ago
typical spanish racist. you guys are worse than the racists we have here.
rudeawakeningxxx 2 years ago
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Dear SDA!
I would like to hear more about amalgamation a DNA union between man and beast as it is written by SDA prophet. But I wasn"t able to find much, accept in "early writings". Would you please be so kind to make so kind of a presentation about this subject.
Tnanks.
loveyouallinheaven 2 years ago
Lovey, God loves variety we see that in colors and sizes of human beings,plants and animals.He foreknew that the choice of a sinful life will lead people to discriminate against those who are different,yet he went ahead and created the world."If any one wants to boast,he should boast that he knows me.Jer 9:24
locobiz1 2 years ago
The Secret Gardens in heaven.
holyhoodtv 2 years ago
Direct link,accept Jesus today.
holyhoodtv 2 years ago 3
Interesting! Thanks for your amazing ministry and god bless!!!
hdiylove7 2 years ago 3
'Spanishfury' ..(what a fitting name). That is the ugliest, most hateful, discriminating and completely untrue words i have read in my whole life.
May God have mercy on your soul.
-European girl-
Linda1305 3 years ago 4
Jesus, yielded up the ghost behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying Truly this was the Son of God.
valu777 2 years ago 2
Hmmmm. How could those people have gone to Heaven if they had not been judged in the investigative judgment, which supposedly began with judging Adam in 1844? Something dosent ring true.
holysaturnius 2 years ago
Didn't Moses, Elijah and Enoch go to heaven before the investigative judgement? Mt 17:5,Heb 11:5Holysatunius,keep your on Jesus and you will never go wrong.
locobiz1 2 years ago
Simple my friend. That was a special previllage.
How?
Because if you think about it, how were they allowed to gain access to Heaven but Christ had not died for them? It was a special previllage so you can't use that as an example.
It is quite simple if you think about it. Christ is coming back and His reward is with Him to give to every man ACCORDING to His work. So if He is giving every man to what they have done, there must have been an investigation to make sure each man gets theirs.
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
An omniscient God does not need an Investigative Judgement so he is doing it for our sake during this long atonement day.1 Cor 6:2.That "special previlege" is called grace;it is an unmerited favor of all that God has done for us in the past,in the present and will do for us in the future through Christ.1.Freedom from the penalty of past sins through faith in Christ in type or antitype Rm 5:1 2.Freedom from the dominion of sin Rm:6:14 and 3. freedom from the presence of sin in the future.
locobiz1 2 years ago
i love what you doing please keep it up so that every true servant of god want to be can communicate with us all true seventh day adventists Amen.
amminadab10 2 years ago
Praise God for He is coming soon. Let us be establised in Christ and overcome sin for this is the reason for these messages
Jondadon2006 2 years ago
We had better make sure we are calling the Savior and lover of our souls by the correct name, then. It most certainly was not Jesus, since He was Hebrew. Study to show yourselves approved!
ShemarYAH1 2 years ago
Moses and Elijah are dead and buried. Enoch has taken on the change. He is an immortal. He never died.
urchop 2 years ago
you should know that God isn't a God of the dead, but the living. Where is your faith?
Dawitness11 2 years ago
only Enoch and Elijah were taken up to heaven. Moses died and was buried.
Marcusmaxis 2 years ago
Moses was on the Mount of Transfiguration with JESUS - Moses was resurected by Jesus himelf after he was buried and he ascended to heaven
theresaoelofse 2 years ago
that was a vision. look again it says that.
Marcusmaxis 2 years ago
Dear Maxis,
Please note that NO MAN!, has ascended into heavan! Jn 3:13
Tspreder 2 years ago
I'm not dead, I'm fully alive and well my friend!
Dawitness11 2 years ago
In 1844 it was the judgment of the dead not those that were translated. (went to heaven without seeing death).
abendugo 2 years ago
@abendugo
who do you believe was translated?
Myhopeisinhim 2 years ago
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Enoch and Elijah were taken up to heaven. Moses of course died but was quickly taken up.
abendugo 2 years ago
There is no need for those words. Who are you to say who gets who. You are born on this planet like everybody else. When you say that word, you are talking about me too so please watch your language. I forgive you. Thanks God bless
Jondadon2006 3 years ago
Thanks Jonathan; I especially love hearing KTF sermons, as well as the other things you share with us. God bless you for all you do.
ladydi65422 3 years ago 2
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THE BIBLE IS A LIE!!!
zion42303 3 years ago
can you prove that my friend?
Jondadon2006 3 years ago
Evolution is a lie. Witchcraft is a lie. New Age is a lie. Scientology is a lie. Hollywood is a lie. Rock music is a lie.
The Bible is TRUTH. Jesus is TRUTH. God is TRUTH. God loves you and sent Jesus to die for you so that you can be saved. Don't miss out friend, time is very short.
rusda2 3 years ago 12
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THATS A BUNCH OF SHIT!!
zion42303 3 years ago
Why are you so angry friend? Why do you hate the bible so much?
rusda2 3 years ago 5
non of us want to hurt you. Jesus is the only way. He died for you
Jondadon2006 3 years ago
ok...if u say so...lol
zion42303 3 years ago 2