Cool tip! I have this stove, never thought of flipping the stand upside down. The wind can def rob heat, wind screen is a must in all but ideal conditions.
Around the 5 min. mark you said you filled the stove up with water. It must make your day to have picky jerks like me point out your mistakes. Lol. Good vid. Neat little stove. Keep up the good work.
the other thing you can try is using it the right way but removing 1/4 inch of metal to make it sit lower in the stand. This has the same effect of using it upside down but adds stability to the pot. For smaller pots (cups) I use the Evernew cross attachment. This works well for tall and skinny cups or pots.
@StatenIslandPrepper Yeah I thought about taking a file to it and doing just that. This mug I was using is the narrowest I own. All my other pots are stable even in the upside down configuration. I looked at the Evernew attachment and may try it out in the future along with their new compact stove with Titanium stove.
It's not the just the distance between burner and pot which is important, hot gases find the highest point and fan out and cold incoming gases find least resistance to pass with the square port.
With the first pattern I saw of this you would need to be determined to get it assembled with the square pattern uppermost and the burner on top, it was barely possible, the fit was so tight.
You're mug is more stable sitting on the sloping side. Windscreen not essential.
@CrawlingRoad Share your knowledge, how did you manage to burn water, apparently so easily? The spreading of such knowledge will give us a freedom leading to untold riches denied to us by the wicked.
I also wonder if that stand can be improved by raising the burner so as to close the gap above its lip. If you wouldn't mind, could you do another test with the same mug with a cork coaster or two underneath. :-) Ideally, one has a pot into which the stand acts as a centre divider
@TheBeebopper I annotated the video on burning water. Although I've drank water before that tasted like it could be burned.
I may play with it some, but I think I'm at the point of "good enough" with these stoves. I use the Clikstand mostly and it works for my needs. The inverted Westwind though is a really good deal. The cook times are quite good. I may just compare the two indoors and post a video.
@CrawlingRoad It's that on Hiram's channel there has been a suggestion that the Trangia burner has difficulty with cold ground. The problem I believe is more in the mind, but addressing the fear by insulating the base of the burner with cork sheet (you would't need to stick the coasters for an initial test) could bring advantage in economy in boiling and simmer. I'd also be intrested in a comparison in economy of burn as this does not appear to have been adddressed elsewhere.
@TheBeebopper The Trangia works fine in the cold, as long as the alcohol in it is above freezing from my experience. I just put it in my jacket as I'm getting my stuff ready for lunch and it lights easily. Once lit the temp doesn't seem to matter. I would not put it directly on snow for the main reason that it gets hot and will sink! I would put it on something insulated that can resist the heat. The burner gets much too hot to put it on foam mat for instance. I suspect it would melt.
@C-R- I've no doubt about the burner, as you say, there is only a requirement to prevent sinking in deep snow. I've taken a further look and thought about the general stability, I see that the potstand can be pushed into the soil(that gap again), so dealing with sloping ground. When dealing with lighting the burner in the wind, use your pot lid over the burner until it jets. These stands were in the possesion of British army personnel and were used on windy hillsides, as is.
@kphifer1 I was told YouTuber "BeeBopper" first suggested it so I updated the comments and video. I do love my Clikstand, too. It's more expensive than the Westwind however for people that need something less pricey. The Westwind when run upside down makes it competitive to the Clikstand (at least with no wind!). Thanks for your comment.
Is that the Snow Peak cup?
How do you like it? I was checking some out on Campmor the other day.
markshmily 3 weeks ago
@markshmily It is fine, but I prefer a wider bottom pan because it uses much less fuel to reach boiling. It's more efficient.
CrawlingRoad 3 weeks ago
Cool tip! I have this stove, never thought of flipping the stand upside down. The wind can def rob heat, wind screen is a must in all but ideal conditions.
tecstrat 1 month ago
Looks to work very well and is affordable. Thanks for sharing!
SlinkingTiger 1 month ago
Around the 5 min. mark you said you filled the stove up with water. It must make your day to have picky jerks like me point out your mistakes. Lol. Good vid. Neat little stove. Keep up the good work.
thenrylee 1 month ago
@thenrylee Got it! Thanks!
CrawlingRoad 1 month ago
the other thing you can try is using it the right way but removing 1/4 inch of metal to make it sit lower in the stand. This has the same effect of using it upside down but adds stability to the pot. For smaller pots (cups) I use the Evernew cross attachment. This works well for tall and skinny cups or pots.
StatenIslandPrepper 1 month ago
@StatenIslandPrepper Yeah I thought about taking a file to it and doing just that. This mug I was using is the narrowest I own. All my other pots are stable even in the upside down configuration. I looked at the Evernew attachment and may try it out in the future along with their new compact stove with Titanium stove.
CrawlingRoad 1 month ago
You're burning water? 4:57 ;-)
It's not the just the distance between burner and pot which is important, hot gases find the highest point and fan out and cold incoming gases find least resistance to pass with the square port.
With the first pattern I saw of this you would need to be determined to get it assembled with the square pattern uppermost and the burner on top, it was barely possible, the fit was so tight.
You're mug is more stable sitting on the sloping side. Windscreen not essential.
TheBeebopper 1 month ago
@TheBeebopper Thanks Beebopper.
CrawlingRoad 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@CrawlingRoad Share your knowledge, how did you manage to burn water, apparently so easily? The spreading of such knowledge will give us a freedom leading to untold riches denied to us by the wicked.
I also wonder if that stand can be improved by raising the burner so as to close the gap above its lip. If you wouldn't mind, could you do another test with the same mug with a cork coaster or two underneath. :-) Ideally, one has a pot into which the stand acts as a centre divider
TheBeebopper 1 month ago
@TheBeebopper I annotated the video on burning water. Although I've drank water before that tasted like it could be burned.
I may play with it some, but I think I'm at the point of "good enough" with these stoves. I use the Clikstand mostly and it works for my needs. The inverted Westwind though is a really good deal. The cook times are quite good. I may just compare the two indoors and post a video.
CrawlingRoad 1 month ago
@CrawlingRoad It's that on Hiram's channel there has been a suggestion that the Trangia burner has difficulty with cold ground. The problem I believe is more in the mind, but addressing the fear by insulating the base of the burner with cork sheet (you would't need to stick the coasters for an initial test) could bring advantage in economy in boiling and simmer. I'd also be intrested in a comparison in economy of burn as this does not appear to have been adddressed elsewhere.
TheBeebopper 4 weeks ago
@TheBeebopper The Trangia works fine in the cold, as long as the alcohol in it is above freezing from my experience. I just put it in my jacket as I'm getting my stuff ready for lunch and it lights easily. Once lit the temp doesn't seem to matter. I would not put it directly on snow for the main reason that it gets hot and will sink! I would put it on something insulated that can resist the heat. The burner gets much too hot to put it on foam mat for instance. I suspect it would melt.
CrawlingRoad 4 weeks ago
@C-R- I've no doubt about the burner, as you say, there is only a requirement to prevent sinking in deep snow. I've taken a further look and thought about the general stability, I see that the potstand can be pushed into the soil(that gap again), so dealing with sloping ground. When dealing with lighting the burner in the wind, use your pot lid over the burner until it jets. These stands were in the possesion of British army personnel and were used on windy hillsides, as is.
TheBeebopper 4 weeks ago
If I'm not mistaken, Cook gave credit to Bopper for the upside down idea.
Yes, boil time is good w/this one, but I still like my Stand. Maybe because it's what I know.
kphifer1 1 month ago
Hiram Cook is where I first saw the test on this stand. He wound up w/the stand upside too. Same results.
But I'll stick w/my Clickstand.
kphifer1 1 month ago
@kphifer1 I was told YouTuber "BeeBopper" first suggested it so I updated the comments and video. I do love my Clikstand, too. It's more expensive than the Westwind however for people that need something less pricey. The Westwind when run upside down makes it competitive to the Clikstand (at least with no wind!). Thanks for your comment.
CrawlingRoad 1 month ago
I watched Hiram test the upside down burn.
moppynels 1 month ago