I'm happy with my decision. Especially after seeing the 2GX gearbox. I wasn't going to delve into the gearbox and I heard some parts in the stock G&P gearbox were prone to being broken very quickly. So I chose the KWA and I'm really happy with my decision.
I see what ya mean. Don't get me wrong, KWAs are fantastic guns, but I know a lot about gearboxes, and I personally think G&P is better stock, at least for highspeed. But if your outdoor than kwa is cool.
dude if you haven't bought the gun yet don't and wait till about june the 3'rd for the new KWA 2009-2010 models to come out with improved pistol grip, motors, and hop ups similar to the fire fly hop up that is extremely accurate so just wait.
I have the gun, and believe me, they did not have the hop up set right. The range I can for a fact say is much better than that. I to was shocked when I saw the BB's doing that.
The gun is fast but to get accurate reading use microphone test. Emptying a mag and counting per second is not a true #. Your using madbull choro, u can use it up to 30bps. you have to do few burst and it will measure it. other than that, if you want to validate your claim. go buy LAYLAX or microphone prog to actually have proof. It soulds fast but i know its no 60bps.
The mag dump test is accurate enough to get a good feel for the amount.
Whether or not you can hear it on the video, when the mag goes dry you can hear the change in the way the gun shoots. Not exact exact, but I am confident in the 55bps number. Especially when counting number of bb's going in, and then what few are left in the feed tube when it's done.
Frankly, it's going to be lower than actual anyway.
Thats around 35rps..pretty average highspeed build.
Maekiii 1 year ago
I seriously doubt this thing shoots 56 rps...at least thats what i came up with when i did 450 divided by 8. but anyway still nice
ThreeFourthsCool 1 year ago
"How many balls per minute" Great use of the word balls.
AirsoftTitan 1 year ago
lol tune your hop up
iggysface 1 year ago
red necks
thecooldude71 1 year ago
@thecooldude71
Thanks! At least we can make our own videos instead of only having lame ps3 commercials claimed as ours.... but that's ok... :)
CaptainSeamus 1 year ago
@CaptainSeamus God that was long ago, whatever man, sorry...
thecooldude71 1 year ago
LOL BB hose much?
Holy shit fuck G&P man I think I might go for the KWA now.
vgamedude12 2 years ago
GP is WAAAAYYY better stock and after upgrades
dirt657 2 years ago
@dirt657
Lol already ordered a KWA.
vgamedude12 2 years ago
@vgamedude12
That sucks man!! My friend had a G&P stock w/ lipo shot 40 bbs a second right out of the box, because it already has a GP 120 high speed motor in it.
dirt657 2 years ago
@dirt657
I'm happy with my decision. Especially after seeing the 2GX gearbox. I wasn't going to delve into the gearbox and I heard some parts in the stock G&P gearbox were prone to being broken very quickly. So I chose the KWA and I'm really happy with my decision.
vgamedude12 2 years ago
@vgamedude12
I see what ya mean. Don't get me wrong, KWAs are fantastic guns, but I know a lot about gearboxes, and I personally think G&P is better stock, at least for highspeed. But if your outdoor than kwa is cool.
dirt657 2 years ago
@dirt657
There's no way a G&P shoots 40 rps out of the box, unless your friend is using a ridiculously powerful lipo.
Stealthmaster15 1 year ago
try 60+ bps now it shoots 350fps
geckoteen 2 years ago
50 bps
Stinkeyfeet678 2 years ago
do you have any extra magazine's for it?if so can you tell me what brand cuz ima get it and i wana know what brand fit
sesti21 3 years ago
dude if you haven't bought the gun yet don't and wait till about june the 3'rd for the new KWA 2009-2010 models to come out with improved pistol grip, motors, and hop ups similar to the fire fly hop up that is extremely accurate so just wait.
DeltaWinters88 2 years ago 2
Very nice i love the XA courses and i cant wait for the night game on saturday.
lizard5077 3 years ago
people the range suck cuz the BB's r going to fast so they hit each in the barrel.if u put a 9.6 they will be fine
sesti21 3 years ago
wow thats crazy i love you course by the way XA ROCKS
Tanner112995 3 years ago
its scary lol
QWhhip 3 years ago
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damn that was some shitty range. i cant believe i just ordered it yesterday :(
chaikaew 3 years ago
Range is fine. Clean the barrel, use some .25's or .28's. Trust me. I own the gun.
engl4nd24 3 years ago
I think you need a little bit more hop up there Lol.
engl4nd24 3 years ago 8
the rof is amazing but the range sucks.
christube36 3 years ago
I have the gun, and believe me, they did not have the hop up set right. The range I can for a fact say is much better than that. I to was shocked when I saw the BB's doing that.
engl4nd24 3 years ago 8
they put a way shorter barrel on and the bbs are hitting each other
LIskimmer 2 years ago
No. They are not.
There was NO hop up on when we ran that...
CaptainSeamus 2 years ago
@engl4nd24 what are the best internall upgrades to make it shoot 420 fps?
silenceimurderyou 1 year ago
@silenceimurderyou
An M120 spring.
drummerkid904 1 year ago
idk man ive had some pretty good rnag and accuracy with .23's
navysealsm4 3 years ago 2
i'll sprays like a hose and the bbs at the end just like shower the area
senators2904 3 years ago
ya it coo
QWhhip 3 years ago
LoL.
Wow. I never heard of the calculation before.
The gun is fast but to get accurate reading use microphone test. Emptying a mag and counting per second is not a true #. Your using madbull choro, u can use it up to 30bps. you have to do few burst and it will measure it. other than that, if you want to validate your claim. go buy LAYLAX or microphone prog to actually have proof. It soulds fast but i know its no 60bps.
No hating!
DJREINX 3 years ago
Our madbull didn't get close to counting true.
The mag dump test is accurate enough to get a good feel for the amount.
Whether or not you can hear it on the video, when the mag goes dry you can hear the change in the way the gun shoots. Not exact exact, but I am confident in the 55bps number. Especially when counting number of bb's going in, and then what few are left in the feed tube when it's done.
Frankly, it's going to be lower than actual anyway.
Thanks for your interest.
CaptainSeamus 3 years ago
Actually, with the new chrono and the other changes it was 64-66 bps.
Again, I still stand behind my original statement... if you aren't sure, you can stand in front of it (I have... lol)
CaptainSeamus 2 years ago
VERY NICE
ztut5 3 years ago
Are you guys ever going to use hop-up???
adadqgg 3 years ago
The hop up was turned off to check the fps.
We forgot to turn it on (oops) for the next part.
It works well, though, as anyone who has run up against Motorhead can attest...
It's now shooting 350 fps and frankly we haven't checked bps/bpm on it...yet...
CaptainSeamus 3 years ago
It would be nice to have a gun shooting that fast and have pin-point accuracy at the same time.
adadqgg 3 years ago
how much does an echo 1 short m203 cost at the augusta store?
5aaron5 3 years ago
Actually, it's held up quite well. This gun is in to have the fps power dropped so he can play with it in our courses.
James and I have both been quite impressed with the KWA gearbox so far. It's a tank.
BTW, 450 rounds, 8.22 secs = 54.98 bps, or about 3300 rounds per minute.
CaptainSeamus 3 years ago
that thing it a beast and it hurts
rc18teen 3 years ago
HOLY SH- Do want. Won't that thing chew through gears, Jim?
-Bobby
alastairkell 3 years ago
Actually, I think it ended up with a new set of gears... we figure it had somewhere around 650,000 to 800,000 rounds through it at that point (!)
No kidding, that is a tank set up. Has to be, Motorhead is hard on his toys!! (nothin' but love, man!)
CaptainSeamus 2 years ago