@MICMICTHE: Yes, I agree with you, perhaps touched up slightly: In Israel, the "best" go to good universities and than to key positions, too. But before they go to the army, and very often to the Sayerets. Some of the best business leaders and university professors were previously in special units.
The difference between Sayeret Matkal and the SAS is that Matkal has much bigger choice group. They can choose soldiers that SAS can't access. In Britain the "best" go to good universities and than to key positions. In Israel the "best" will be pushed to key positions in the military. This is really a question of perspective, if you judge a unit by its skill with weapon maybe SAS will win. But a good special unit has thinking soldiers, that can handle complex non-linear situations, like Matkal.
@dymproductions - LOL,the reason you don't hear about the SAS is because THE MISSIONS ARE SECRET you dumb fuck are you expecting the SAS troops to come straight to the news blabbing to the news what missions they just done!Oh god but overall I'd say SAS because of experience but sayeret matkal are tough there not the shittest there up there in top 5 trust me!
Sayeret Matkal is based from SAS and so are other special ops units like Delta Force, KSK, GROM, etc. They all got trained by SAS initially and everything from their tactics to the way they train is based from how SAS train. They all specialize in anti/counter-terrorism and they all cross train with each other. They pretty much use the same tactics and the same weapons for their missions so no unit is better than another. You could also say the same with Shayetet 13, SBS, DEVGRU, etc.
LOLLOLOLOL SAS by far the Sayeret Maktkal are only good at killing civilians and beating unarmed women and children and to all those zionist who say their special force is better dont forget the 27 day Lebanon war where Hizbullah kicked your asses back to Palestine when you tried to occupy the country. Shame!!!
@saulboyjt im english and respect and know how elite your country's forces are but at the same time if you was to know the history of your forces you would know that your commando skills were first taught by us and its not a dig at isreal im not anti Semitic i think what your forces have done and doing other are too scared to even try
Why everyone fighting with each other who is the best who is the fag that putted this idiotic video here?? to be honest I dident even watch it I just watched the comments and its full of Rivalry and hate towards each other both SAS and SM are great both has the one of the best soldiers at the world! both did allot of missions and fighting for 1 reason so why fight with each other while our main enemy still alive? Terrorism!! that's why thos special forces created for!
SAS/SBS ten times better. Look at their operations in Iraq/Afghanistan. SAS Task Force Black removed over 2,500 insurgents from the streets of Basra and fallujah. The SAS has carried out at least 2 successful rescue operations in Iraq, the SBS saved a CIA agent from hordes of taliban and put down an Iraqi prison revolt. For these actions an SBS operator was nominated for the Medal of Honor, but the British government turned it down for him. The SBS/SAS have also assasinated manyTaliban leaders
@shmudi1 and the SAS have had over 70 years of continuous activity nearly all of it you will never even hear of, so that kind of beats your opinion doesn't it the Sayeret Matkal was even modeled on the SAS
the SAS is and will always be the original, the founder that all other forces copied, just face it, SAS s world renowned for there abilities, Sayeret Matkal aren't
Who the fuck will ever know whos better if they're secretive lol. But i would go with matkal since they have been on more missions than anyone could imagine and rarely fail.
@MrMcCookies how would you know that they have been on more missions than anyone else seen as there supposed to be "secretive" the biggest boasters are normally making up for there actions
I say sayeret matkal is #1. These dudes carry out more missions and daring raises then anyone, yeh sure the sas were the pioneers but the idf special forces have develop the most lethal surgical blue print for war. Sas was captured by Iranian border guards
Im not saying this as a Israeli or something else but dude,you dont fight shit,when the hell Britan fight another country we are fighting Arabs 60+ years
LOL To all the Schmucks that say that SAS is better then the Awesome Sayeret Maktkal I say go and burn in hell fools, cause you have no idea what'ya talking about. Israel is fighting terrorism and wars 24/7 for over 70 years nonstop,7 million Jews against 300.000.000 Muslims...Each time Israel kicked their asses Grand scale and finished them off! So the SAS Sissies should come to Israel and let them see how things are done in the real world. The anti semitic cockroaches are just that cockroaches
One SAS operator is capable of inflicting the carnage an entire team of Commandos would
To date both the US Delta, And Sayeret take lessons from them, Their veterans school Isreali soldiers and have been for years, If this upsets you then go fuck youself, you ungrateful piece of shit
Hey fool, you just don't have a clue, and that's pitiful.
Never in history there was such an operation as Operation Yontan, Never. And it was carried out by Sayeret Matkal. So stop sitting on your hands and shitting in your pants and begin to understand the real world. The Israeli Sayeret Matkal, will devestate the sas anyday anytime anywhere, so stop talking nonsense , you're making a total fool out of yourself...
Im guessing you never even held a gun in your life, lil'boy I'v seen and experienced more in five years than your going to in your entire pityful little life
Your "Sayeret" were completely busted at the combat trials, sorry but they dont even come close to proven special forces who have been active for the past fifty years, in both conflicts you have heard about and ones you never will,
Operation Yontan is nothing compared to past exploits
Yes indeed, you're a fool cause you refuse to accept reality. SAS is nothing compared to the Sayeret Matkal, nothing. Even the Israeli Yamam will destroy them in a moments notice...
@saulboyjt Your Sayeret Matkal have botched up their operations plenty of times, and Sayeret Matkal is modeled on SAS first and foremost, even attempting to use the same slogans, In half a century since its foundation you havent managed to create anything new,
A special operations unit isn't worth anything if they don't have the air or sea power to infiltrate or extract, or do air strikes. Both of which Isreali doesnt have without the say so of its bigger friends
@saulboyjt I spoke to a ex serving member of the British army, Im not going to give any details regarding him, A keyboard warrior like you doesnt merit it, He went and saw firsthand what both the Sayeret and local Isreali security forces were capable of, He wasnt impressed in the slightest im afraid my lil china, Yes, very lethal, quite capable of dealing with uppity African pirates and insurgencies, The SAS have been training you stupid cunts for years you ungrateful scum,
@saulboyjt To top it all off, Isrea have been fighting warfare with no regards to the Geneva convention for twenty years, What exactly have they been fighting, Guerillas? Bullying woman and children? Yes, They have, You suffer from a typical Jewish Ego problem, Anything but Isreali, Except the fact and reality is Isreal would be 100% lost without Western protection and influence, Thats the real embarassment, Lets see how well Isreali does when it picks a fight with a country it cant extort
@1MagicAndMayhem1 That's the difference. Israel does not pick a fight. In 1948 Israel wanted a two state solution..the Arabs said no and attacked. In 2005 Israel pulled out of Gaza, but the rockets into Israel increased.
Egypt and Jordan sought peace and got it. Maybe Syria and even Libya to follow one day. Peace with Israel will lead to economic prosperity for the whole middle east.. you've tried over 60 years of aggression, what have you got to lose by recognition of Israel..think of the gains
@saulboyjt - Deeply embarrassing on so many levels.
The guys from SM would have nothing but contempt for your ignorance precisely because they know the reality,and didn't get their experience from "Call of Duty".
@saulboyjt "Israel is fighting terrorism and wars 24/7 for over 70 years nonstop"
I guess you forgot that it was terrorism perpetrated by the Zionist terror groups such as the Irgun and Lehi/Stern Gang that resulted in the British being forced to leave Palestine. Israel was therefore created as a direct result of terrorism and now you call those who fight occupation, terrorists. LOL!
Israeli special forces are only good against easy targets. Try fighting a real enemy for a change.
@Azzon you dont know what you are talking about.. I am serving in Sayeret Golani .. to serve in the YAMAM you have to finish your 3 years of serve and have rovai 08 .. to join sayeret matkal you going to a 5 days Gibush.. we are talking about best SWAT unit not best soilders.. people from the yamam all served in some special unit.. i have freinds in sayeret matkal they all whant to join the yamam after the service including me.
no doubt they are both good. i don't know alot about the SAS , but i know that Sayeret Matkal guys are almost unbeatable and very exprienced.. they are running operation all the time , top secret opereations and we will never know anything about it.
@CombatSambo83 You're just a little FUCKING KID.. I'm done with you asswipe.. go back to your fucking paintball and leave the fighting to PROFESSIONALS.. not Airsofters.. LOL.. asshole..ha ha! what a fucking kid..
@CombatSambo83 You are a MORON.. absolute and total MORON. I know this is 5 months old, but Stupidity doesnt usually CURE ITSELF. DUDE, YES.. SAS are GREAT Special forces.. So are Sayaret Matkal, as well as US Navy SEAL Team. Why are you screaming about "jews"?? Huh? What is WRONG with you? Next time you respond you dont have to act like you are someone who would hang with Hitler on the weekends and drink beer in Bavaria with him. JERK, You are SCARED that anything Jewish could equal SAS..Funny.
But.. if we REALLY want to be honest, us Americans can't really take the credit for the 1st Special Forces. Seriously, we were NOT the first. About 500 years BEFORE CHRIST the "Spartans" were the "1st Special Forces". These very special warriors were trained from birth. Children of "spartans" were TESTED at birth on up. Trained from BIRTH to be warriors, they were the most fierce. A great many children DIED after birth just because they weak or not that strong. So actually SPARTANS were the 1st.
There both great units also can you russian/terror supporters stop saying SPETZZZ RULE!!!@!@!@ because they dont..they suck so much...look at there soldiers there just training there spetz to have alot of body power...which its not good...>.> its only good if you get capture which they probably get capture alot Thos make them sux..
Who is better? Stupid question, because we know only about few of their missions and we know nothing about their training, experience, failures, achievments and deployment.
sayeret matkal is the mother of all special forces the SAS and the marines are constantly begging them to reveal to them the training techniqes that they use and to use theyr training facilitys
@snakesrock678 NO THEY ARE NOT the "Mother of all Special Forces". The ORIGINAL Special forces were Roberts Rangers back during the Revolutionary War in America.. Then jump to World War II and actually a few years before with "US Navy Raiders".. precursor to the UDT.. which formed up before D-Day.. Israel didnt even EXIST at this time much less Sayeret Matkal. Look, I'm NOT knocking them.. but lets be fucking realistic and have some honest discussion.. not blow up imaginary balloons.
@Realizeskateboarding It's funny, ive served in the IDF for 3 years in The Paratroopers Bridge 101 Unit, And we also trained in Counter Terrorism Krav Maga etc... so why would you pick Matkal and not Paratroopers?
Unless any of you have ever been under the SOCOM umbrella let alone in the military then you opinion is worthless. There's no way one force can be "better" than another, there are too many variables ranging from sheer numbers, to technology. If you have any common sense you'll understand what I mean.
@hooah411 Really? And YOU know? At 19 years old.. You definitely are NOT NSW.. you are old enough to have been in the Army and gone through the Pipeline.. SO.. YOU yourself dont even know what you're saying dude.. SOCOM has members with all specialized capabilities.. US Navy SEAL Team is the ONLY SF unit that can operate in ALL AO's... ALL OF THEM.. NO OTHER UNIT has this capability. Army SF & Marine FR are great Landwarriors but SUCK in the water.. SEAL Team are great land warriors AND sea.
@christopheclugston Why yes they do.. and they themselves will tell you they are NO MATCH for a US Navy SEAL.. out of water or UNDER water. The Army trains a "few" to be combat divers".. but in almost every single situation if it has ANYTHING to do with water & combat.. US Navy SEAL Team is called on. The Army/Marines are NOT going to train men to do what SEAL Team does.. its out of their SCOPE. The reason each branch has specialty is so they can be EXPERTS at their own mission critical types.
@TheSwabbie WTF are you talking about? MY time in grade (TIG) has absolutely nothing to do nor will have anything to do with being Ranger/SOCOM. Thats primarily up to your chain of command. RANK HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
nearly every single comment on this video is made by imbeciles that know nothing about special forces... Sayeret Matkal are based on SAS. and SAS are no.1 and will always be no.1 they are the best at everything.
@Teimaninja just because their name is special AIR service does not mean that is what they do, 22SAS are split into sabre squadrons which form up air units, boat units, mountain units and mobilty units, they can perform indefinetly as a self reliant small army and can do any role whether its military based or intelligence based incl, bodyguarding and training. they are no.1 and top any other service including sayeret matkal.
@zobielamouche1 Last Saturday 60 rockets were fired at Israël from the Gaza strip, many followed untill now. Since 2008 there were no bombings in Jarusalem, untill now. 2 bombs were set at two diffirent bus stations. Looks to me that Hamas AGAIN taunts Israël. But as cowardly as Hamas is, they hide in schools, hospitals, town halls etc. so many civilians die. Also Palastinians were celebrating in the streets because 3 Israëli children and 2 adults died in a brutal slaughter on March 14....
you don't even deserve an answer. you are a (typical) hardcore fan of the "fc israel" and convinced you are on the right, the good side. i can imagine where you obtain your information. continue imagine yourself the one side as the innocent but brave victim and demonizing the others, in nazi manner. go on. you are not alone.
@zobielamouche1 I am really not a hardcore fan of Israël. I'm just saying the facts. Israël is attacked. AGAIN. They are constantly at their toes because some retards want "their" land back. Too bad Israël was made by Israëlis 800 years B.C. It is their land. The Israëlis also came with a solution, 3 times even. one time in 1947, one time in 1967 and one time in 2000. A two-state solution. One side for the Palestinians and one side for the Jews.
@zobielamouche1 But the Arabs refused all three the solutions. Isaël is no Apartheid state, Palestinians also have the right to vote. Israël made that fence in 2002 because of constant suicide bombers killed dozens of Israëli civilians every year. Its a protective barrier. Israël is constantly taunted on by Hamas and Palestinians by firing rockets at Israël and commit bombings. Israël is not the agressor here, it are Palestinians and Hamas.
@zobielamouche1 Many Jews all around the globe are victim of antisemitism, desiccation of Jewish cemetery's and Synagogues. Almost went extinct because they were systematicly murdered by a lunatic and many people still want to see them all dead. Bombings, fast spreading antisemitism mainly from Europe, North America and the Muslim world. Jews are beaten and called names upon the streets. Palestinians kids are indoctrinated from a religious and political aspect of view to murder all Jews.
@zobielamouche1 Making Israël look bad by the mainstream media by constantly putting Israël under a microscope and track everything they do and putting them in a bad spot for the slightest things. Almost no lessons on schools about the Holocaust, they keep the youngsters from knowing what happened to the Jewish people in History. Not educating children with that the Israëlittes were the first people in history to make their kingdom in Israël.
@zobielamouche1 By not educating the children properly about the Jewish people they pick up things from the news and people like you which will slowly fill their hate-o-meter towards the Jewish people.
@zobielamouche1 Actually taking over the world , making 25 childrens per family and shouting "Allahuakbar" all the time is the muslim's way (include those fool palestines) to overcome their trauma of being filthy muslims murderers and theives. keeping hide behind the name of allah of what ever they do.
@antikackz Unfortunately , it's not a stereotype :S . My muslims neighbors , DO behave like that. so i say what i see . Moreover "muslim" isn't a race it's a religion. They are semistics like the jews , However they have different customs of killing and doing barbaric things. (It's not steretype) Arabs are shit.
@rangers11000 well this sas members died a long time ago hhhh sm is far more experienced then sas..and ofc sas are a great spaciel forces..but come on..its the 21st century not the 33-48
yes it is the 21st century and the british army has not gone for a period longer than 15 years without being involved in a war.the SAS were in ireland fighting the IRA for over 25 years,they were in the falklands,they were in iraq twice they have been in sierra lyone and borneo belize and are now in afghanistan.
all the israelis have done is fight poorly armed palestinians with no military training for the last 40 years
sayeret matkal is not doing missions in palestine even not close then what u assuming.
the sayeret matkal have pure skill of spy & kill missions like assassinations and bringing good intel and stuff
there was retired sayeret matkal officer who served 32 years in the unit who said '' u cant even think of what operations we have and for all the history of sayeret matkals operational activity assuming that we do missions u only can see in the movies.
@SeryiVolk2009 who says im misinformed? everybody knows that experience counts. Find out how many REAL life mission matkal has done compared to SAS. Enough said..
@jabbay25 that's because most of the SAS missions are unheard of seen as the government don't make announcements on them as there a secretive force but your so called Sayeret Matkal is secretive? yet you all go on about they have done more missions than the SAS? how is that when they are supposed to be secretive to, the government don't boast about the SAS missions cos they don't have to, SAS have had at least 20 MORE years experience of missions than the Sayeret Matkal FACT
But Isreal is the best at everything so stop arguing. Jews are the master race the rest of us are goy, cattle and deserve no rights,like the Palestinians.
Isreal will hate me for saying this but I do not care. Sayeret or whatever their name is part of the IDF. The IDF is an oppressive army that keeps Palestinians oppressed. and every now and again big hunky isreal special force heroes go and kill some frustrated misguided oppressed Palestinian who foolishly thinks he can stand up to big brother. SAS fought real enemy Nazi who where more than a match in their day for any army.
@CombatSambo83 your "civilians" were armed, you moron, some of them belong to al-qaeda. your media will never show the truth about what is going on in middle east.
First elite Israeli unit in Palestine, 'Stern gang'? First victims of their murderous objectives, British soldiers? Probably the same British soldiers that fought the Nazis the same year and indirectly saved Jews in the camp? Britain rewarded by Israel, by torturing to death British soldiers, by Stern gang. Or blowing up the King David hotel.
Difference, SAS acts with honour, does not murder Palestinian citizens or drop white phosphorous bombs on suburban neighbourhoods. Any idiot can train to be efficient but to have honour, that separates the great form the elite.
They're both fa nominal forces. But if I had to choose someone to save my ass it would be Sayart Matkal. Israel is constantly @ war executing many operations that most of us will never even know about, so therefore Sayart Matkal has a lot more experience in what they do. No disrespect to the SAS as I know that they are hardcore commandos as well.
@korvix I agree that the operation involving Nahson Vaksman went awry for many reasons, most of which nobody will really ever know. Sayart Matkal executes more frequent operations than the SAS & with due respect, i din't think that the operation involving Nahson Vaksman would of had a different outcome had the SAS been involved. Either way, they are both considered elite units, but at the end of the day I would choose experience & track record if I was making any decisions.
@MrJo1340 fair dooze. but it is quite funny that the SAS have been ariund longer than israel (not saying that makes them better but it is quite weird to think)
@duncdohntuz Israel has only been around since 1948, so yes the SAS have been around longer. What actually defines better? they're both highly trained elite units. In my opinion I would say that Sayart Matkal has more experience both domestic and abroad & yes i know there are well documented "failed" missions but it's safe to say when they're a success, nobody but a small hand full actually ever know about it.
There are only a small nomber of commando unites suppirior to the SAS 3 of theme are israeli (Matkal, Shaldag [the air force commandos] and Shayetet 13[Naval commando] there is also the Spetznaz-russian commando wich is well known as best and most higlly trained commando in the world! Israel has some more commandos but i dont think they are suppirior to SAS...
any way, these are unites of real MEN! not these "Halavluvim" as i like to call theme in hebrew.. the americans dont come near
@pandemicpoojab Ignorance means lack of understanding.. Of which I have more than you could EVER imagine.. but .. what YOU lack is Intelligence and Gray matter inside that noggin of yours.. Next time just read and post less.. you show your ASS when you do.
@pandemicpoojab You ARE kidding right? Look it up? Ok Kid, lets do a Little HISTORY lesson - you can LOOK IT UP afterward. World War II for the USA started on DEC 8 (Japan) & Dec 11th (Germany). ISRAEL DID NOT EXIST at this time. The US Navy had men in UDT (underwater demolitions), precursor to Navy SEAL Team. Before D-Day the US army created the "Rangers",they went up the cliffs on Point Du Hoc. At the END of WWII the nation of Israel DID NOT EXIST..
The Sayart Matkal was established in 1957.. it wasn't really operational for its full range of military operations until a year or so afterward.. SO.. now EXPLAIN to me how THEY WERE THE FIRST SPECIAL FORCES???? YOU CANT.. SO, why are you SHOWING YOUR OWN IGNORANCE by trying to puff up your chest and ask me where I looked it up? HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU? Next time you make a mistake... FUCKING OWN UP TO IT KID.. THATS SHOWS MATURITY. Look, I make mistakes just like everyone, I OWN UP TO THEM.
You forget the SAS was formed in 1941,fought many campaigns in ww2,indonesia,oman,falklands islands,malaya,borneo,30+ years on thier own door-step in Northern Ireland against the IRA,Gulf war,Iraq and Afghanistan also involved in famous rescue ops such as Iranian Embassy siege,sierra leone rescue,petershead prison rescue, ect ect the list is long,I realy dont get this Expierence argument ?,the SAS/SBS are the oldest and most expierence units in the world fact
@MrJo1340 Sayart Matkal based on sas training and has also the same motto who dares wins!!also they have the same role in army!!!sas is the first special force unit in the world!!!
@MrJo1340 The SAS is constantly on operation in many theaters. We dont hear about 90% of them either. As far as experience goes, i'd have to hand it to the SAS, the first and the best.
@MrJo1340 This seems like an endless debate. Although SAS was formed before the SM, the SM has a lot more missions & experience today than anybody knows. Very little is or ever will be known about specific missions therefore nobody can make a valid argument about experience, sucsess, failures etc. There's only APPROX 25 KNOWN MISSIONS OF THE SM between 1963 to 2007 & I think it's safe to say there have been many more in between & probably even as we speak. Delta force is up there too.
During the 19 years of Jordanian occupation no one asked for a palestinian state! During the turkish occupation no one asked for a palestinian state!
After Israel was put into a war in 1967 which Israel won - the arab world started to shout for a palestinian state. But now this land belongs to Israel. it isnt occoupied.
Or do you think Poland occupies former german land???
You can not compare to elite counter terrorism units. It really does not matter what unit was created first or not. Israel's military units have proven throughout its short history thats it capable to take on the billions of people who want 6 million Israeli's dead. British SAS is also one of the best in the world. You take 1 soldier from each and they will clear a room the same, Hit the same bulls eye target, and both will get the job done
Really ,how do you compare the teacher with the student ?, if you know the origins of SAYERET MATKAL and which S/Forces outfit is rumoured to have helped start and train this unit you will get my question
S.A.S and MATK''AL are bare same units!!! they share tactics and training together.
certainly SAS most veteran unit and they had a lot of experience, but we cant forget that Israel always at war with terrorism, and every day since 1957 they are practice at real targets and they always have a actions.
@BeerKill The Maroon Berets are an elite armed force that was created by officers from the Turkish Army. They are also called as "Bordo Bereliler". Their first mission is eliminate terrorist attacks. Other missions are sneaking enemy territory, destroying enemy vehicles and reconnaissancing.
U.N and NATO Exercises every April:
World Key lock Record: 7 seconds, Turkish Maroon Beret commandos Nearest opponent:13 Seconds, Delta Force
Turkish MB commandos came 1st in 22 of 24 exercises.
The Maroon Berets are the special forces organization of the Turkish Army.
The unit was created to counter any interior or foreign attacks on the Turkish Republic. MB officers receive extensive training and are expected to survive in all environmental conditions
@BordoEnes hey idiot! that small pathetic country has the one of the best army in the world! it doesn't matter what the number of the people. Israelis soldiers practice every day on real targets and missions! Israel always in war situation and thats what bring our army to the top level of warfare.
@BeerKill HAHAH just shut the fuck up ahahha You would Be NOTHING if america didnt gave you money . so dont come here talking like you did everything on your own
If there was no america you wouldt be the poorest country in the world . if there was no america you would be invaded by iran or turkey . and all jews would be dead
@BordoEnes first off, u should consider wat israel does for america , now a days its israel telling them how to do things, and america didnt really help israel that much with the war, israel was attcked the second it became a country ofcourse america helped it , but not with soldiers, nor money it gave it weapons or planes idk i dont really remember, israel made all the arab countrys back off on its own then, and to this day.
@KaBoomPsycho LOL they only give them money and train them . But if you think it was a great victory that israel defeated the arab countries your so Dum. those people barely know how the use Weapons.!!
@BordoEnes funny that you talk so poorly about the israeli army, since it is ISRAEL
that suplies turkey with most of its tanks, warplanes, UAVs, intellegence and advanced training. of course you can always ask your new buddy Iran to supply you with some of their 'premium' weapons
@spartacusization LOL thats the biggest bullshit i have ever Heard. Turkey is in a Union Called NATO. And the only thing we buy from israel are F16 falcon fighters.
and Turkey makes there Own weapons you dummass. They have There Own weapom and there own tank and there own Armed Verhicle And there Own UAV.
And We already Have Nuclear weapons.america gave it. And WE getting advanced training from the zionost piece of Shit ? You wish!!
@BordoEnes Ha! i think you should do more research friend, because the most training programs and intelligence (including Hand to Hand) of the US Special Forces are coming from the Israeli´s
@sacreda070 you dumm boy. what is from israel , IS USA. they give money , technoligie EVERTHING!! you suspect me to believe a little countries with only 7 million people are training the big and rich USA ?? hahahahahah
@xEden1 Partly right and wrong. Sas is the oldest special force unit in the world. indeed you have good unit who are by the program of the americans. you just improved it. the weapons you use are m4`s.(american made). yes you have your own weapon. i am aware of your great technologie. like the markava tank and UAV`s. But you cannot compare with the SAS.
We use MicroTavor Rifle right now. (using M4 too but most of time Tavor).
I know that SAS is a very good and exprienced unit,but i think sayart matkal is on the same "league" with them.Cause Sayart Matkal is maybe only 40-30 years old but carried many many opertionas.and active all time.
Turkish MB commandos came 1st in 22 of 24 exercises.
The Maroon Berets are the special forces organization of the Turkish Army.
The unit was created to counter any interior or foreign attacks on the Turkish Republic. MB officers receive extensive training and are expected to survive in all environmental conditions
General Wingate: A highly religious Christian, Wingate became a supporter of Zionism. Assigned to the British Mandate of Palestine in 1936, he set about training members of the Haganah,which became the Israel Defense Forces with the establishment in 1948 of the state of Israel. He is most famous for his creation of the Chindits, airborne deep-penetration troops trained to work behind enemy lines in the Far East campaigns against the Japanese during World War II.
I think the people who founded SAS (Fitzroy Maclean etc.) actually trained the early israeli special forces. Also the best (forgotten) English soldier of ww2 specialized in special operations on a large scale in Birma was general General Sir Francis Reginald Wingate (GCB GCVO GBE KCMG DSO TD) who was a zionist.
SAS never trained the Shayetet 13 or the Sayeret Matkal. Nor any other unit in the IDF.
Actually during the 1990s the SAS went to train with the Israeli Special Ops and they shared tactics. I wouldn't say one is better than the other. I sure as hell wouldn't want them to go head to head.
Dont want to disrespect the Matkal without a doubt a great unit,but remember the SAS are the Pilgrim fathers of the Special Forces scene,to be honest these boys wrote the book,
Est in 1942,the oldest and most respected S/Forces unit in the world,tactics and Org copied by many others,have helped to train and mold such units as the US's Delta Force ect,fought in many different theatres including 2nd world war,Oman,Indonesia,Falklands war ,Iraq,Afghanistan,Sierra Leone,N/Ireland,ect
Experience? How would we know anything about their experience. We only know what the Israeli government wants us to know which is only about 6 operations lol.
I would say its just best not to put them up against each other. When working together no one comes close :D
Imagine living under occupation for 62 years. Your life is hopeless and you never know when death will come from the IDF. Image that 500 of your villages have been destroyed. People come from Europe and erased our history.
The world allows the Palestinians to suffer because of the power of Israel and Jewish Americans. It´s very sade isn´t it !!!
SAS should be compared to YAMAM (special ops unit, belongs to the police) or to EGOZ (anti guerrilla unit, belongs to the army) or, perhaps the most suitable - to LOTAR (anti-terror, hostage rescuing, belongs to the army).
even though Sayeret Matkal preform similar operations, the main objective of the unit is intelligence gathering and working behind the enemy lines.
Sas in Israel is better to comparble with YAMAM, they are both specialized in counter- terrorizme.
While Sayeret Matkal is specialized in field intelligence.
I trained in the Palsar (Tsalchanim) unit together with Matkal, first we had 6 month basic training with the Tsalchanim and then we had 5 moths advanced training, including CT- training, Krav Maga, 90Km walking, eating...,and even then it was a secret for us what Matkal trained more!
why would you even try to compare an intelligence\fighting unit to an anti terror unit? SAS should be compared to the Yamam and loose, not to sayeret matkal (I say and loose because you britains probably don't understand the importance of experience if you even think you can compare your twice a year active unit to the Israeli one which makes arrests every day!! also an average arrest takes about 2 minutes and we can use dogs... what will you have to bring is comparison?)
Im not going be foolish enough to try and disrespect either UK or Israel special force as I know all of these forces are the elites.
But what I am going to say is that your view on experience is wrong, yes Israeli special forces have an extremely high workload, but the SAS work constantly all around the WORLD since '40s, be it recon, anti-terrorism or warfare, this is an experience no Israeli special force can compete with.
@Frost1e in Israel there are 3 main groups that's doing such activities, also around the world. but the major difference in Sayeret Matkal, is that they are going through traumatizing training and also serve in similar places and cases all the time, of course they are trained for maximum modularity, but the threats are always similar, which gains each specific man in the unit a high level of self experience apart from unit's history.
@MICMICTHE: Yes, I agree with you, perhaps touched up slightly: In Israel, the "best" go to good universities and than to key positions, too. But before they go to the army, and very often to the Sayerets. Some of the best business leaders and university professors were previously in special units.
gustavpistauer 2 weeks ago
The difference between Sayeret Matkal and the SAS is that Matkal has much bigger choice group. They can choose soldiers that SAS can't access. In Britain the "best" go to good universities and than to key positions. In Israel the "best" will be pushed to key positions in the military. This is really a question of perspective, if you judge a unit by its skill with weapon maybe SAS will win. But a good special unit has thinking soldiers, that can handle complex non-linear situations, like Matkal.
MICMICTHE 2 weeks ago
i have deep respect of sayeret matkal, sas is good but these guys go beyond any imagination.
stolly27 3 weeks ago
@dymproductions - LOL,the reason you don't hear about the SAS is because THE MISSIONS ARE SECRET you dumb fuck are you expecting the SAS troops to come straight to the news blabbing to the news what missions they just done!Oh god but overall I'd say SAS because of experience but sayeret matkal are tough there not the shittest there up there in top 5 trust me!
Whatblud0121 3 weeks ago
im an israeli, and SAS are better, but not by far
GaL1212121 1 month ago
@GaL1212121 SAS is not better trust me, if we were told the missions that Sayeret do, we would be in shock...SAS don't do much...
Do you know how hard it is to get in to Sayeret and a 30 month course?
dymproductions 4 weeks ago
@dymproductions LOL! How the hell would YOU of all people know what SAS do? Dont talk bullshit kid.
BenjoBanjoo 1 week ago
Sayeret Matkal is based from SAS and so are other special ops units like Delta Force, KSK, GROM, etc. They all got trained by SAS initially and everything from their tactics to the way they train is based from how SAS train. They all specialize in anti/counter-terrorism and they all cross train with each other. They pretty much use the same tactics and the same weapons for their missions so no unit is better than another. You could also say the same with Shayetet 13, SBS, DEVGRU, etc.
Cynnik911 1 month ago
LOLLOLOLOL SAS by far the Sayeret Maktkal are only good at killing civilians and beating unarmed women and children and to all those zionist who say their special force is better dont forget the 27 day Lebanon war where Hizbullah kicked your asses back to Palestine when you tried to occupy the country. Shame!!!
Khan12078 1 month ago
@Khan12078 Not another brainwashed fool...most people have learnt anyway, I guess it is just a matter of months before you see the truth
dymproductions 4 weeks ago
@saulboyjt im english and respect and know how elite your country's forces are but at the same time if you was to know the history of your forces you would know that your commando skills were first taught by us and its not a dig at isreal im not anti Semitic i think what your forces have done and doing other are too scared to even try
markblackburnmusic 2 months ago
Why everyone fighting with each other who is the best who is the fag that putted this idiotic video here?? to be honest I dident even watch it I just watched the comments and its full of Rivalry and hate towards each other both SAS and SM are great both has the one of the best soldiers at the world! both did allot of missions and fighting for 1 reason so why fight with each other while our main enemy still alive? Terrorism!! that's why thos special forces created for!
1Zike95 2 months ago 6
SAS/SBS ten times better. Look at their operations in Iraq/Afghanistan. SAS Task Force Black removed over 2,500 insurgents from the streets of Basra and fallujah. The SAS has carried out at least 2 successful rescue operations in Iraq, the SBS saved a CIA agent from hordes of taliban and put down an Iraqi prison revolt. For these actions an SBS operator was nominated for the Medal of Honor, but the British government turned it down for him. The SBS/SAS have also assasinated manyTaliban leaders
engliscwarrior 2 months ago
btw, SAS are the real mcoy. FACT
FkinTune 4 months ago
And by the way - the question was "who is the best?", not "who was formed first?".
All the british guys here are bragging the SAS were created before Sayeret Matka -, so what? Ford was created before Toyota - does it make it better?
Sayeret Matkal has 50+ years of continuous activity, most of will never be revealed. That's enough time to get better than anyone.
shmudi1 4 months ago
@shmudi1 and the SAS have had over 70 years of continuous activity nearly all of it you will never even hear of, so that kind of beats your opinion doesn't it the Sayeret Matkal was even modeled on the SAS
the SAS is and will always be the original, the founder that all other forces copied, just face it, SAS s world renowned for there abilities, Sayeret Matkal aren't
FkinTune 4 months ago
I know first hand at least 5 people who served in Sayeret Matkal.
These are smart, tough, and impressive guys.
I sure wouldn't want to go up against them.
shmudi1 4 months ago
Who the fuck will ever know whos better if they're secretive lol. But i would go with matkal since they have been on more missions than anyone could imagine and rarely fail.
MrMcCookies 4 months ago
@MrMcCookies how would you know that they have been on more missions than anyone else seen as there supposed to be "secretive" the biggest boasters are normally making up for there actions
FkinTune 4 months ago
I say sayeret matkal is #1. These dudes carry out more missions and daring raises then anyone, yeh sure the sas were the pioneers but the idf special forces have develop the most lethal surgical blue print for war. Sas was captured by Iranian border guards
MrLeo9999999 5 months ago
@resliph
Im not saying this as a Israeli or something else but dude,you dont fight shit,when the hell Britan fight another country we are fighting Arabs 60+ years
MrBreSleV 6 months ago
LOL To all the Schmucks that say that SAS is better then the Awesome Sayeret Maktkal I say go and burn in hell fools, cause you have no idea what'ya talking about. Israel is fighting terrorism and wars 24/7 for over 70 years nonstop,7 million Jews against 300.000.000 Muslims...Each time Israel kicked their asses Grand scale and finished them off! So the SAS Sissies should come to Israel and let them see how things are done in the real world. The anti semitic cockroaches are just that cockroaches
saulboyjt 7 months ago 10
@saulboyjt Their not commandos
One SAS operator is capable of inflicting the carnage an entire team of Commandos would
To date both the US Delta, And Sayeret take lessons from them, Their veterans school Isreali soldiers and have been for years, If this upsets you then go fuck youself, you ungrateful piece of shit
1MagicAndMayhem1 6 months ago
@1MagicAndMayhem1
Hey fool, you just don't have a clue, and that's pitiful.
Never in history there was such an operation as Operation Yontan, Never. And it was carried out by Sayeret Matkal. So stop sitting on your hands and shitting in your pants and begin to understand the real world. The Israeli Sayeret Matkal, will devestate the sas anyday anytime anywhere, so stop talking nonsense , you're making a total fool out of yourself...
saulboyjt 6 months ago
@saulboyjt Im a fool?
Im guessing you never even held a gun in your life, lil'boy I'v seen and experienced more in five years than your going to in your entire pityful little life
Your "Sayeret" were completely busted at the combat trials, sorry but they dont even come close to proven special forces who have been active for the past fifty years, in both conflicts you have heard about and ones you never will,
Operation Yontan is nothing compared to past exploits
Step away from your keyboard
1MagicAndMayhem1 6 months ago
Yes indeed, you're a fool cause you refuse to accept reality. SAS is nothing compared to the Sayeret Matkal, nothing. Even the Israeli Yamam will destroy them in a moments notice...
saulboyjt 6 months ago
@saulboyjt I notice you avoided the point and proven history, nice one
I suggest you put your words into practice as real history has spoken and you cant argue with facts
1MagicAndMayhem1 6 months ago
@saulboyjt - Possibly the stupidest post I've seen on YouTube.
And you're up against some pretty stiff competition.
SeryiVolk2009 6 months ago
@1MagicAndMayhem1
Hey, bro, keep it humble. Big talkers are little doers.
GWC1975 6 months ago
@saulboyjt Your Sayeret Matkal have botched up their operations plenty of times, and Sayeret Matkal is modeled on SAS first and foremost, even attempting to use the same slogans, In half a century since its foundation you havent managed to create anything new,
A special operations unit isn't worth anything if they don't have the air or sea power to infiltrate or extract, or do air strikes. Both of which Isreali doesnt have without the say so of its bigger friends
1MagicAndMayhem1 6 months ago
@saulboyjt I spoke to a ex serving member of the British army, Im not going to give any details regarding him, A keyboard warrior like you doesnt merit it, He went and saw firsthand what both the Sayeret and local Isreali security forces were capable of, He wasnt impressed in the slightest im afraid my lil china, Yes, very lethal, quite capable of dealing with uppity African pirates and insurgencies, The SAS have been training you stupid cunts for years you ungrateful scum,
1MagicAndMayhem1 6 months ago
@saulboyjt To top it all off, Isrea have been fighting warfare with no regards to the Geneva convention for twenty years, What exactly have they been fighting, Guerillas? Bullying woman and children? Yes, They have, You suffer from a typical Jewish Ego problem, Anything but Isreali, Except the fact and reality is Isreal would be 100% lost without Western protection and influence, Thats the real embarassment, Lets see how well Isreali does when it picks a fight with a country it cant extort
1MagicAndMayhem1 6 months ago
@1MagicAndMayhem1 That's the difference. Israel does not pick a fight. In 1948 Israel wanted a two state solution..the Arabs said no and attacked. In 2005 Israel pulled out of Gaza, but the rockets into Israel increased.
Egypt and Jordan sought peace and got it. Maybe Syria and even Libya to follow one day. Peace with Israel will lead to economic prosperity for the whole middle east.. you've tried over 60 years of aggression, what have you got to lose by recognition of Israel..think of the gains
Avidcomp 6 months ago 2
@saulboyjt - Deeply embarrassing on so many levels.
The guys from SM would have nothing but contempt for your ignorance precisely because they know the reality,and didn't get their experience from "Call of Duty".
SeryiVolk2009 6 months ago
@saulboyjt "Israel is fighting terrorism and wars 24/7 for over 70 years nonstop"
I guess you forgot that it was terrorism perpetrated by the Zionist terror groups such as the Irgun and Lehi/Stern Gang that resulted in the British being forced to leave Palestine. Israel was therefore created as a direct result of terrorism and now you call those who fight occupation, terrorists. LOL!
Israeli special forces are only good against easy targets. Try fighting a real enemy for a change.
abdulmismail 1 month ago
@saulboyjt Ha, I like you you call them "SAS Sissies" but each one of them could rape and kill your family with 1 finger. LOL
BenjoBanjoo 1 week ago
Why everybody talking about sayeret matkal like its special Israel have the YAMAM its 10 times better then sayeret matkal
Azzon 7 months ago
@Azzon no its not
sayeret matkal are better because they chose the top soldiers over all other units.
like this
Sayeret Egoz(top soldier)
sayeret givati(top soldier)
sayeret nahal(top soldier)
and so on..and of caurse the yamam are good and there the best special forces of MAGAV.
but there more of a special forces cops not soldiers
GoldenTagachi 7 months ago
@Azzon you dont know what you are talking about.. I am serving in Sayeret Golani .. to serve in the YAMAM you have to finish your 3 years of serve and have rovai 08 .. to join sayeret matkal you going to a 5 days Gibush.. we are talking about best SWAT unit not best soilders.. people from the yamam all served in some special unit.. i have freinds in sayeret matkal they all whant to join the yamam after the service including me.
Azzon 7 months ago
@Azzon is the Israeli Special forces better then the British SAS?
wrathofvengance67 7 months ago
@wrathofvengance67 I actually think that UK army IDF and Us ARMY are the best :)
DAVIDVAKNINEILAT 6 months ago
of curse syeret matkal we have more experience sas dont israel the best special forces in the world and its proved!!!
israelisbest2 7 months ago
no doubt they are both good. i don't know alot about the SAS , but i know that Sayeret Matkal guys are almost unbeatable and very exprienced.. they are running operation all the time , top secret opereations and we will never know anything about it.
TalTxD 7 months ago
of curse sayeret matkal. SAS work only on call of duty...
DeXSeD 7 months ago 18
@CombatSambo83 You're just a little FUCKING KID.. I'm done with you asswipe.. go back to your fucking paintball and leave the fighting to PROFESSIONALS.. not Airsofters.. LOL.. asshole..ha ha! what a fucking kid..
TheSwabbie 7 months ago
@CombatSambo83 You are a MORON.. absolute and total MORON. I know this is 5 months old, but Stupidity doesnt usually CURE ITSELF. DUDE, YES.. SAS are GREAT Special forces.. So are Sayaret Matkal, as well as US Navy SEAL Team. Why are you screaming about "jews"?? Huh? What is WRONG with you? Next time you respond you dont have to act like you are someone who would hang with Hitler on the weekends and drink beer in Bavaria with him. JERK, You are SCARED that anything Jewish could equal SAS..Funny.
TheSwabbie 7 months ago
But.. if we REALLY want to be honest, us Americans can't really take the credit for the 1st Special Forces. Seriously, we were NOT the first. About 500 years BEFORE CHRIST the "Spartans" were the "1st Special Forces". These very special warriors were trained from birth. Children of "spartans" were TESTED at birth on up. Trained from BIRTH to be warriors, they were the most fierce. A great many children DIED after birth just because they weak or not that strong. So actually SPARTANS were the 1st.
TheSwabbie 7 months ago
There both great units also can you russian/terror supporters stop saying SPETZZZ RULE!!!@!@!@ because they dont..they suck so much...look at there soldiers there just training there spetz to have alot of body power...which its not good...>.> its only good if you get capture which they probably get capture alot Thos make them sux..
GoldenTagachi 8 months ago
Spetsnaz Vs Sayeret Matkel LOL U Make Me Laugh Loudly
20-2 to Spetsnaz
TheAclpa 8 months ago
Who is better? Stupid question, because we know only about few of their missions and we know nothing about their training, experience, failures, achievments and deployment.
pivakB 8 months ago
sayeret matkal is the mother of all special forces the SAS and the marines are constantly begging them to reveal to them the training techniqes that they use and to use theyr training facilitys
snakesrock678 9 months ago
@snakesrock678 NO THEY ARE NOT the "Mother of all Special Forces". The ORIGINAL Special forces were Roberts Rangers back during the Revolutionary War in America.. Then jump to World War II and actually a few years before with "US Navy Raiders".. precursor to the UDT.. which formed up before D-Day.. Israel didnt even EXIST at this time much less Sayeret Matkal. Look, I'm NOT knocking them.. but lets be fucking realistic and have some honest discussion.. not blow up imaginary balloons.
TheSwabbie 9 months ago
@snakesrock678 In the 1940's it was a British officer called Wingate that started training the Israelis.
Known as Palmach-according to weaponology documentary..
SAS 1941..before that ,the revolutionary war - Roberts rangers(another Englishman)
I really cant see the likes of the SAS begging for anything.
banoffee2001 9 months ago
@Realizeskateboarding It's funny, ive served in the IDF for 3 years in The Paratroopers Bridge 101 Unit, And we also trained in Counter Terrorism Krav Maga etc... so why would you pick Matkal and not Paratroopers?
Teimaninja 9 months ago
@Teimaninja because matkal are more then 3 years they have to "Pledge" them self for 8 years like airforce units..
so they have way more experince in combat,also the matkal do more urben warfare then a paratrooper
GoldenTagachi 9 months ago
Unless any of you have ever been under the SOCOM umbrella let alone in the military then you opinion is worthless. There's no way one force can be "better" than another, there are too many variables ranging from sheer numbers, to technology. If you have any common sense you'll understand what I mean.
hooah411 9 months ago
@hooah411 Really? And YOU know? At 19 years old.. You definitely are NOT NSW.. you are old enough to have been in the Army and gone through the Pipeline.. SO.. YOU yourself dont even know what you're saying dude.. SOCOM has members with all specialized capabilities.. US Navy SEAL Team is the ONLY SF unit that can operate in ALL AO's... ALL OF THEM.. NO OTHER UNIT has this capability. Army SF & Marine FR are great Landwarriors but SUCK in the water.. SEAL Team are great land warriors AND sea.
TheSwabbie 9 months ago
@TheSwabbie SF has scuba teams.
christopheclugston 8 months ago
@christopheclugston Why yes they do.. and they themselves will tell you they are NO MATCH for a US Navy SEAL.. out of water or UNDER water. The Army trains a "few" to be combat divers".. but in almost every single situation if it has ANYTHING to do with water & combat.. US Navy SEAL Team is called on. The Army/Marines are NOT going to train men to do what SEAL Team does.. its out of their SCOPE. The reason each branch has specialty is so they can be EXPERTS at their own mission critical types.
TheSwabbie 7 months ago
@TheSwabbie Sorry to burst your bubble. Your view is not held by actual team members. Individuals are individuals-
christopheclugston 7 months ago
@hooah411 TYPO.. you have NOT been in long enough to go in the pipeline for Ranger then the Q Course either.. not enough TIG..
TheSwabbie 9 months ago
@TheSwabbie WTF are you talking about? MY time in grade (TIG) has absolutely nothing to do nor will have anything to do with being Ranger/SOCOM. Thats primarily up to your chain of command. RANK HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.
hooah411 9 months ago
nearly every single comment on this video is made by imbeciles that know nothing about special forces... Sayeret Matkal are based on SAS. and SAS are no.1 and will always be no.1 they are the best at everything.
simonking195 10 months ago
S.a.s - Special Air Service
Matkal - Takedowns and Spying,
how can you compare both, they'r diffrent units for diffrent situations.
Teimaninja 10 months ago
@Teimaninja just because their name is special AIR service does not mean that is what they do, 22SAS are split into sabre squadrons which form up air units, boat units, mountain units and mobilty units, they can perform indefinetly as a self reliant small army and can do any role whether its military based or intelligence based incl, bodyguarding and training. they are no.1 and top any other service including sayeret matkal.
simonking195 10 months ago
sayret matkal...hands down the best. SAS is well trained but they still have limits and things they wont do, Sayret Matkal will do whatever it takes.
MrAzrancher 10 months ago
killing palestinians (and stealing their country) and lebaneses is the zionis's way to overcome their holocaust trauma..
zobielamouche1 11 months ago
@zobielamouche1 Last Saturday 60 rockets were fired at Israël from the Gaza strip, many followed untill now. Since 2008 there were no bombings in Jarusalem, untill now. 2 bombs were set at two diffirent bus stations. Looks to me that Hamas AGAIN taunts Israël. But as cowardly as Hamas is, they hide in schools, hospitals, town halls etc. so many civilians die. Also Palastinians were celebrating in the streets because 3 Israëli children and 2 adults died in a brutal slaughter on March 14....
magictouch115 11 months ago
you don't even deserve an answer. you are a (typical) hardcore fan of the "fc israel" and convinced you are on the right, the good side. i can imagine where you obtain your information. continue imagine yourself the one side as the innocent but brave victim and demonizing the others, in nazi manner. go on. you are not alone.
zobielamouche1 11 months ago
@zobielamouche1 Haha you make me laugh.
magictouch115 11 months ago
@zobielamouche1 I am really not a hardcore fan of Israël. I'm just saying the facts. Israël is attacked. AGAIN. They are constantly at their toes because some retards want "their" land back. Too bad Israël was made by Israëlis 800 years B.C. It is their land. The Israëlis also came with a solution, 3 times even. one time in 1947, one time in 1967 and one time in 2000. A two-state solution. One side for the Palestinians and one side for the Jews.
magictouch115 11 months ago
@zobielamouche1 But the Arabs refused all three the solutions. Isaël is no Apartheid state, Palestinians also have the right to vote. Israël made that fence in 2002 because of constant suicide bombers killed dozens of Israëli civilians every year. Its a protective barrier. Israël is constantly taunted on by Hamas and Palestinians by firing rockets at Israël and commit bombings. Israël is not the agressor here, it are Palestinians and Hamas.
magictouch115 11 months ago
@zobielamouche1 Many Jews all around the globe are victim of antisemitism, desiccation of Jewish cemetery's and Synagogues. Almost went extinct because they were systematicly murdered by a lunatic and many people still want to see them all dead. Bombings, fast spreading antisemitism mainly from Europe, North America and the Muslim world. Jews are beaten and called names upon the streets. Palestinians kids are indoctrinated from a religious and political aspect of view to murder all Jews.
magictouch115 11 months ago
@zobielamouche1 Making Israël look bad by the mainstream media by constantly putting Israël under a microscope and track everything they do and putting them in a bad spot for the slightest things. Almost no lessons on schools about the Holocaust, they keep the youngsters from knowing what happened to the Jewish people in History. Not educating children with that the Israëlittes were the first people in history to make their kingdom in Israël.
magictouch115 11 months ago
@zobielamouche1 By not educating the children properly about the Jewish people they pick up things from the news and people like you which will slowly fill their hate-o-meter towards the Jewish people.
magictouch115 11 months ago
@zobielamouche1 Actually taking over the world , making 25 childrens per family and shouting "Allahuakbar" all the time is the muslim's way (include those fool palestines) to overcome their trauma of being filthy muslims murderers and theives. keeping hide behind the name of allah of what ever they do.
Erannzz 11 months ago
@Erannzz nice muslim stereotype you also forgot blowing themselves up. racist fuck T_T
antikackz 11 months ago
@antikackz Unfortunately , it's not a stereotype :S . My muslims neighbors , DO behave like that. so i say what i see . Moreover "muslim" isn't a race it's a religion. They are semistics like the jews , However they have different customs of killing and doing barbaric things. (It's not steretype) Arabs are shit.
Erannzz 11 months ago
sayeret matkal has wwaayyy more experience
jabbay25 1 year ago 46
@jabbay25
dont think so fuck sake, the SAS were kicking the nazis ass in africa before israel was even created.
rangers11000 6 months ago
@rangers11000 well this sas members died a long time ago hhhh sm is far more experienced then sas..and ofc sas are a great spaciel forces..but come on..its the 21st century not the 33-48
GoldenTagachi 5 months ago
@GoldenTagachi
yes it is the 21st century and the british army has not gone for a period longer than 15 years without being involved in a war.the SAS were in ireland fighting the IRA for over 25 years,they were in the falklands,they were in iraq twice they have been in sierra lyone and borneo belize and are now in afghanistan.
all the israelis have done is fight poorly armed palestinians with no military training for the last 40 years
rangers11000 5 months ago
@rangers11000 ur pure dumb mate..
sayeret matkal is not doing missions in palestine even not close then what u assuming.
the sayeret matkal have pure skill of spy & kill missions like assassinations and bringing good intel and stuff
there was retired sayeret matkal officer who served 32 years in the unit who said '' u cant even think of what operations we have and for all the history of sayeret matkals operational activity assuming that we do missions u only can see in the movies.
spyhobict 4 months ago
@spyhobict
SURE :D
rangers11000 4 months ago
@rangers11000 wow couldn't of said it better myself!
FkinTune 4 months ago
@jabbay25- If you think that,you're badly misinformed...
SeryiVolk2009 6 months ago
@SeryiVolk2009 who says im misinformed? everybody knows that experience counts. Find out how many REAL life mission matkal has done compared to SAS. Enough said..
jabbay25 6 months ago
@jabbay25 that's because most of the SAS missions are unheard of seen as the government don't make announcements on them as there a secretive force but your so called Sayeret Matkal is secretive? yet you all go on about they have done more missions than the SAS? how is that when they are supposed to be secretive to, the government don't boast about the SAS missions cos they don't have to, SAS have had at least 20 MORE years experience of missions than the Sayeret Matkal FACT
FkinTune 4 months ago
@jabbay25 SAS was founded decades before the "Sayeret Matkal" and they where modeled on the SAS
FkinTune 4 months ago
In my opinion, both are good, both units are like sisters(same motto, same basis of the 'symbol' etc.)
Every unit and it's own professions, I'd trust Egoz more than Matkal in the mountains for example...
ועדן, בינינו...לא חסרים טמבלים שלא יודעים כלום, כלי התקשורת אצלם מחורטטים ברמות...
VirusVideos2008 1 year ago
But Isreal is the best at everything so stop arguing. Jews are the master race the rest of us are goy, cattle and deserve no rights,like the Palestinians.
mrwfraser 1 year ago
Isreal will hate me for saying this but I do not care. Sayeret or whatever their name is part of the IDF. The IDF is an oppressive army that keeps Palestinians oppressed. and every now and again big hunky isreal special force heroes go and kill some frustrated misguided oppressed Palestinian who foolishly thinks he can stand up to big brother. SAS fought real enemy Nazi who where more than a match in their day for any army.
mrwfraser 1 year ago
@mrwfraser
Go back to bed kiddo.
Stop talkin bout things that you dont know shit.
xEden1 1 year ago
@mrwfraser the idf also fought egypt, jordanie syrie and additional forces from other countrys.
and came out victorious..
while being outnumbered 1o to 1. That is impressive,,
but also treu idf never fought any western army that can match it,
bleushift 1 year ago
@CombatSambo83 your "civilians" were armed, you moron, some of them belong to al-qaeda. your media will never show the truth about what is going on in middle east.
bioware5 1 year ago
The SAS are the best of the best, period!!!
aniolku25 1 year ago
@CombatSambo83
Well,i want to see SAS team goes on a terror ship with a paintball gun..1 soldier against 100.
And you better start talkin like a human.
kiddo.
Learn some about the special forces in Israel then come back here.
xEden1 1 year ago
First elite Israeli unit in Palestine, 'Stern gang'? First victims of their murderous objectives, British soldiers? Probably the same British soldiers that fought the Nazis the same year and indirectly saved Jews in the camp? Britain rewarded by Israel, by torturing to death British soldiers, by Stern gang. Or blowing up the King David hotel.
mrwfraser 1 year ago
Difference, SAS acts with honour, does not murder Palestinian citizens or drop white phosphorous bombs on suburban neighbourhoods. Any idiot can train to be efficient but to have honour, that separates the great form the elite.
mrwfraser 1 year ago
@mrwfraser at least you don't say it is an honor for hamas and hezbolah to shoot from schools and kindergarten, and put civilians in the front line
bioware5 1 year ago
They're both fa nominal forces. But if I had to choose someone to save my ass it would be Sayart Matkal. Israel is constantly @ war executing many operations that most of us will never even know about, so therefore Sayart Matkal has a lot more experience in what they do. No disrespect to the SAS as I know that they are hardcore commandos as well.
MrJo1340 1 year ago 43
@MrJo1340 dont forget IDF uses the same motto "who dares wins" from the SAS... =)
kookahjoon 1 year ago
@MrJo1340 then you will be dead, SAS are number one at hostage situations.
Sayeret are good at specific operations beyond enemy lines, that's it. like documents or abductions or executions.
They usually come and go without being even noticed and engaging anyone.
But SAS are the ones that will save your ass, nahson vaksman is an example of a hostage that was killed because of poor sayeret execution
korvix 11 months ago
@korvix I agree that the operation involving Nahson Vaksman went awry for many reasons, most of which nobody will really ever know. Sayart Matkal executes more frequent operations than the SAS & with due respect, i din't think that the operation involving Nahson Vaksman would of had a different outcome had the SAS been involved. Either way, they are both considered elite units, but at the end of the day I would choose experience & track record if I was making any decisions.
MrJo1340 11 months ago
@MrJo1340 fair dooze. but it is quite funny that the SAS have been ariund longer than israel (not saying that makes them better but it is quite weird to think)
duncdohntuz 10 months ago
@duncdohntuz Israel has only been around since 1948, so yes the SAS have been around longer. What actually defines better? they're both highly trained elite units. In my opinion I would say that Sayart Matkal has more experience both domestic and abroad & yes i know there are well documented "failed" missions but it's safe to say when they're a success, nobody but a small hand full actually ever know about it.
MrJo1340 10 months ago
@MrJo1340
There are only a small nomber of commando unites suppirior to the SAS 3 of theme are israeli (Matkal, Shaldag [the air force commandos] and Shayetet 13[Naval commando] there is also the Spetznaz-russian commando wich is well known as best and most higlly trained commando in the world! Israel has some more commandos but i dont think they are suppirior to SAS...
any way, these are unites of real MEN! not these "Halavluvim" as i like to call theme in hebrew.. the americans dont come near
orlypilatesisrael 10 months ago
@orlypilatesisrael Spetnaz are BULLSHIT.. US NAVY SEAL TEAM beats ALL of them.. ALL.. End of discussion.
TheSwabbie 9 months ago
@TheSwabbie ignorant much
pandemicpoojab 9 months ago
@pandemicpoojab Ignorance means lack of understanding.. Of which I have more than you could EVER imagine.. but .. what YOU lack is Intelligence and Gray matter inside that noggin of yours.. Next time just read and post less.. you show your ASS when you do.
TheSwabbie 9 months ago
@TheSwabbie where did you look this up then
pandemicpoojab 9 months ago
@pandemicpoojab You ARE kidding right? Look it up? Ok Kid, lets do a Little HISTORY lesson - you can LOOK IT UP afterward. World War II for the USA started on DEC 8 (Japan) & Dec 11th (Germany). ISRAEL DID NOT EXIST at this time. The US Navy had men in UDT (underwater demolitions), precursor to Navy SEAL Team. Before D-Day the US army created the "Rangers",they went up the cliffs on Point Du Hoc. At the END of WWII the nation of Israel DID NOT EXIST..
TheSwabbie 7 months ago
The Sayart Matkal was established in 1957.. it wasn't really operational for its full range of military operations until a year or so afterward.. SO.. now EXPLAIN to me how THEY WERE THE FIRST SPECIAL FORCES???? YOU CANT.. SO, why are you SHOWING YOUR OWN IGNORANCE by trying to puff up your chest and ask me where I looked it up? HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE YOU? Next time you make a mistake... FUCKING OWN UP TO IT KID.. THATS SHOWS MATURITY. Look, I make mistakes just like everyone, I OWN UP TO THEM.
TheSwabbie 7 months ago
@MrJo1340
You forget the SAS was formed in 1941,fought many campaigns in ww2,indonesia,oman,falklands islands,malaya,borneo,30+ years on thier own door-step in Northern Ireland against the IRA,Gulf war,Iraq and Afghanistan also involved in famous rescue ops such as Iranian Embassy siege,sierra leone rescue,petershead prison rescue, ect ect the list is long,I realy dont get this Expierence argument ?,the SAS/SBS are the oldest and most expierence units in the world fact
funkyfenman 10 months ago 2
@MrJo1340
The seyeret matkal was formed in 1957, (with help from the British SAS),thats nearly two decades after the SAS ?
funkyfenman 10 months ago
@MrJo1340 Sayart Matkal based on sas training and has also the same motto who dares wins!!also they have the same role in army!!!sas is the first special force unit in the world!!!
trommbas 8 months ago
@MrJo1340 The SAS is constantly on operation in many theaters. We dont hear about 90% of them either. As far as experience goes, i'd have to hand it to the SAS, the first and the best.
Antifaith29 7 months ago
@MrJo1340 - Depends what you mean.
The SAS have a much greater RANGE of experience.
Sayeret Matkal have more the same few experiences over and over again.
So if you're in Israel's immediate vicinity,then go with them.
Anywhere else,SAS are a better bet.
SeryiVolk2009 6 months ago
@MrJo1340 This seems like an endless debate. Although SAS was formed before the SM, the SM has a lot more missions & experience today than anybody knows. Very little is or ever will be known about specific missions therefore nobody can make a valid argument about experience, sucsess, failures etc. There's only APPROX 25 KNOWN MISSIONS OF THE SM between 1963 to 2007 & I think it's safe to say there have been many more in between & probably even as we speak. Delta force is up there too.
MrJo1340 6 months ago
I think that Sayart Matkal and S.A.S Are the same level.
xEden1 1 year ago
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During the 19 years of Jordanian occupation no one asked for a palestinian state! During the turkish occupation no one asked for a palestinian state!
After Israel was put into a war in 1967 which Israel won - the arab world started to shout for a palestinian state. But now this land belongs to Israel. it isnt occoupied.
Or do you think Poland occupies former german land???
atretes3 1 year ago
SAS or Matkal....
Everyone have same instructors....;-)
lofaska 1 year ago
Sayeret Matkal clearly is greater.
saulboyjt 1 year ago
You can not compare to elite counter terrorism units. It really does not matter what unit was created first or not. Israel's military units have proven throughout its short history thats it capable to take on the billions of people who want 6 million Israeli's dead. British SAS is also one of the best in the world. You take 1 soldier from each and they will clear a room the same, Hit the same bulls eye target, and both will get the job done
kicks92738 1 year ago
Really ,how do you compare the teacher with the student ?, if you know the origins of SAYERET MATKAL and which S/Forces outfit is rumoured to have helped start and train this unit you will get my question
funkyfenman 1 year ago
i vote for SAS
TribalJester88 1 year ago
bless the HOUSE OF EL
chichiboypumpi 1 year ago
S.A.S and MATK''AL are bare same units!!! they share tactics and training together.
certainly SAS most veteran unit and they had a lot of experience, but we cant forget that Israel always at war with terrorism, and every day since 1957 they are practice at real targets and they always have a actions.
BeerKill 1 year ago
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BordoEnes 1 year ago
@BeerKill The Maroon Berets are an elite armed force that was created by officers from the Turkish Army. They are also called as "Bordo Bereliler". Their first mission is eliminate terrorist attacks. Other missions are sneaking enemy territory, destroying enemy vehicles and reconnaissancing.
U.N and NATO Exercises every April:
World Key lock Record: 7 seconds, Turkish Maroon Beret commandos Nearest opponent:13 Seconds, Delta Force
BordoEnes 1 year ago
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@BeerKill Point shot record: 200meters, Turkish Maroon Beret commandos Nearest opponent: 140 meters , Spetznas
Turkish MB commandos came 1st in 22 of 24 exercises.
The Maroon Berets are the special forces organization of the Turkish Army.
The unit was created to counter any interior or foreign attacks on the Turkish Republic. MB officers receive extensive training and are expected to survive in all environmental conditions
BordoEnes 1 year ago
@saguyrabin
Remember the SAS carried out over 30 years of anti-terrorist operations in Northern Ireland bud,
funkyfenman 1 year ago
I personally do not think that units from different armies should ever be compared. They are all fighting for their own freedom.
MysteryMan1889 1 year ago
hahahahhahaha A smal pathetic country with only 7M people shoeld have the best special force JOKE
BordoEnes 1 year ago
@BordoEnes hey idiot! that small pathetic country has the one of the best army in the world! it doesn't matter what the number of the people. Israelis soldiers practice every day on real targets and missions! Israel always in war situation and thats what bring our army to the top level of warfare.
BeerKill 1 year ago
@BeerKill HAHAH just shut the fuck up ahahha You would Be NOTHING if america didnt gave you money . so dont come here talking like you did everything on your own
If there was no america you wouldt be the poorest country in the world . if there was no america you would be invaded by iran or turkey . and all jews would be dead
BordoEnes 1 year ago
@BordoEnes first off, u should consider wat israel does for america , now a days its israel telling them how to do things, and america didnt really help israel that much with the war, israel was attcked the second it became a country ofcourse america helped it , but not with soldiers, nor money it gave it weapons or planes idk i dont really remember, israel made all the arab countrys back off on its own then, and to this day.
KaBoomPsycho 1 year ago
@KaBoomPsycho LOL they only give them money and train them . But if you think it was a great victory that israel defeated the arab countries your so Dum. those people barely know how the use Weapons.!!
BordoEnes 1 year ago
@BordoEnes funny that you talk so poorly about the israeli army, since it is ISRAEL
that suplies turkey with most of its tanks, warplanes, UAVs, intellegence and advanced training. of course you can always ask your new buddy Iran to supply you with some of their 'premium' weapons
spartacusization 1 year ago
@spartacusization LOL thats the biggest bullshit i have ever Heard. Turkey is in a Union Called NATO. And the only thing we buy from israel are F16 falcon fighters.
and Turkey makes there Own weapons you dummass. They have There Own weapom and there own tank and there own Armed Verhicle And there Own UAV.
And We already Have Nuclear weapons.america gave it. And WE getting advanced training from the zionost piece of Shit ? You wish!!
BordoEnes 1 year ago
@BordoEnes Ha! i think you should do more research friend, because the most training programs and intelligence (including Hand to Hand) of the US Special Forces are coming from the Israeli´s
sacreda070 1 year ago
@sacreda070 you dumm boy. what is from israel , IS USA. they give money , technoligie EVERTHING!! you suspect me to believe a little countries with only 7 million people are training the big and rich USA ?? hahahahahah
BordoEnes 1 year ago
@BordoEnes
S.A.S came to israel for learning from Sayart matkal
maybe we are small,but we have good soldiers ,good units.
btw.usa didn't gave us everything -.- like the weapons.(those are made in israel..not m16,we aren't usin it anymore)
xEden1 1 year ago
@xEden1 Partly right and wrong. Sas is the oldest special force unit in the world. indeed you have good unit who are by the program of the americans. you just improved it. the weapons you use are m4`s.(american made). yes you have your own weapon. i am aware of your great technologie. like the markava tank and UAV`s. But you cannot compare with the SAS.
BordoEnes 1 year ago
@BordoEnes
We use MicroTavor Rifle right now. (using M4 too but most of time Tavor).
I know that SAS is a very good and exprienced unit,but i think sayart matkal is on the same "league" with them.Cause Sayart Matkal is maybe only 40-30 years old but carried many many opertionas.and active all time.
xEden1 1 year ago
@xEden1 its in progras. they dont use it yet.
BordoEnes 1 year ago
@BordoEnes
Nope,its arleady done.Almost everyone uses Tavor
Special forces use Microtavor
xEden1 1 year ago
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@BeerKill Point shot record: 200meters, Turkish Maroon Beret commandos Nearest opponent: 140 meters , Spetznas
Turkish MB commandos came 1st in 22 of 24 exercises.
The Maroon Berets are the special forces organization of the Turkish Army.
The unit was created to counter any interior or foreign attacks on the Turkish Republic. MB officers receive extensive training and are expected to survive in all environmental conditions
BordoEnes 1 year ago
General Wingate: A highly religious Christian, Wingate became a supporter of Zionism. Assigned to the British Mandate of Palestine in 1936, he set about training members of the Haganah,which became the Israel Defense Forces with the establishment in 1948 of the state of Israel. He is most famous for his creation of the Chindits, airborne deep-penetration troops trained to work behind enemy lines in the Far East campaigns against the Japanese during World War II.
diadorim1234 1 year ago
I think the people who founded SAS (Fitzroy Maclean etc.) actually trained the early israeli special forces. Also the best (forgotten) English soldier of ww2 specialized in special operations on a large scale in Birma was general General Sir Francis Reginald Wingate (GCB GCVO GBE KCMG DSO TD) who was a zionist.
diadorim1234 1 year ago
@diadorim1234
Don't "think"
SAS never trained the Shayetet 13 or the Sayeret Matkal. Nor any other unit in the IDF.
Actually during the 1990s the SAS went to train with the Israeli Special Ops and they shared tactics. I wouldn't say one is better than the other. I sure as hell wouldn't want them to go head to head.
etopla 1 year ago
@saguyrabin
Dont want to disrespect the Matkal without a doubt a great unit,but remember the SAS are the Pilgrim fathers of the Special Forces scene,to be honest these boys wrote the book,
Est in 1942,the oldest and most respected S/Forces unit in the world,tactics and Org copied by many others,have helped to train and mold such units as the US's Delta Force ect,fought in many different theatres including 2nd world war,Oman,Indonesia,Falklands war ,Iraq,Afghanistan,Sierra Leone,N/Ireland,ect
funkyfenman 1 year ago
Anyone who doubts the Calibre of the SAS soldier should watch "SAS HEROES-Last Stand in Oman"
in 1972, 9 SAS soldiers single handedly battled 300 communist rebels in Oman
Im a fan of the Makal look very impressive,would definatley be in my top 5 but they cant match the SAS in expierence
funkyfenman 1 year ago
@funkyfenman
Experience? How would we know anything about their experience. We only know what the Israeli government wants us to know which is only about 6 operations lol.
I would say its just best not to put them up against each other. When working together no one comes close :D
etopla 1 year ago
Imagine living under occupation for 62 years. Your life is hopeless and you never know when death will come from the IDF. Image that 500 of your villages have been destroyed. People come from Europe and erased our history.
The world allows the Palestinians to suffer because of the power of Israel and Jewish Americans. It´s very sade isn´t it !!!
abercrombiecgn1 1 year ago
@abercrombiecgn1
Stfu muzzie
etopla 1 year ago
SAS should be compared to YAMAM (special ops unit, belongs to the police) or to EGOZ (anti guerrilla unit, belongs to the army) or, perhaps the most suitable - to LOTAR (anti-terror, hostage rescuing, belongs to the army).
even though Sayeret Matkal preform similar operations, the main objective of the unit is intelligence gathering and working behind the enemy lines.
kidi1232 1 year ago
lets just be glad we are allies and let the terrorists fear them
xASxDragoon 1 year ago
Why people like to compare Sayeret Matkal to sas?
Sas in Israel is better to comparble with YAMAM, they are both specialized in counter- terrorizme.
While Sayeret Matkal is specialized in field intelligence.
I trained in the Palsar (Tsalchanim) unit together with Matkal, first we had 6 month basic training with the Tsalchanim and then we had 5 moths advanced training, including CT- training, Krav Maga, 90Km walking, eating...,and even then it was a secret for us what Matkal trained more!
againstcowards 1 year ago
this is the jewrish einsatzgrueppen SS
cheekymonkey25963 1 year ago
why would you even try to compare an intelligence\fighting unit to an anti terror unit? SAS should be compared to the Yamam and loose, not to sayeret matkal (I say and loose because you britains probably don't understand the importance of experience if you even think you can compare your twice a year active unit to the Israeli one which makes arrests every day!! also an average arrest takes about 2 minutes and we can use dogs... what will you have to bring is comparison?)
BlackSoulOfHeaven 1 year ago
@BlackSoulOfHeaven
Better than the SAS have you trained with both?
Im not going be foolish enough to try and disrespect either UK or Israel special force as I know all of these forces are the elites.
But what I am going to say is that your view on experience is wrong, yes Israeli special forces have an extremely high workload, but the SAS work constantly all around the WORLD since '40s, be it recon, anti-terrorism or warfare, this is an experience no Israeli special force can compete with.
Frost1e 1 year ago
@Frost1e in Israel there are 3 main groups that's doing such activities, also around the world. but the major difference in Sayeret Matkal, is that they are going through traumatizing training and also serve in similar places and cases all the time, of course they are trained for maximum modularity, but the threats are always similar, which gains each specific man in the unit a high level of self experience apart from unit's history.
is that new to you?
BlackSoulOfHeaven 1 year ago