I think what needs to be pointed out here is that I think the Christian, Jew, Hindu etc... is justified in believing there experiences barring de facto objections which could falsify such experiences as invalid. For example if said person is diagnosed with a mental illness, or if there is conclusive evidence that Muhammad never existed, the Muslims experience would be invalidated.
@philosophizer149 "Christian, Jew, Hindu etc... is justified in believing there experiences barring de facto objections which could falsify" Well not all beliefs are falsifiable, Super/natural/stitious claims are famous for this. Your basically saying we dont have a way of separating the Wheat from the Chaff when it comes to your god claim from a superstition or imaginary friend. Although I do think There is good reasons to think a god like YHWH can not exist.
It's imposible to do so. they all blend together, forming what society in a particular area thinks of the "supernatural". For example, wiccans may think that a bum in the night is a spirit or thier deity, while my Catholic pals may think it's a demon fro the 4rd layer of hell. Either way it's still just a bump in the night, and although they think it's not, it is. Does tha make sense? Or am I just blabbing on? Am I not understanding?
Yes I think I know what yor saying, but no I dont think it addresses the question.
If a wiccan claims hes actually a supernatural deity and catholic says it a demon.
They both cant be right but they can both be wrong, since most people dont disagree that the natural world exists these extra-natural layers are just equally unsupported and superfluous assumptions. (occams razor)
I don't think that there is a meaningful distinction between a deity that does not exist and one that does not manifest. As the saying goes, "A difference that makes no difference is no difference."
I think what needs to be pointed out here is that I think the Christian, Jew, Hindu etc... is justified in believing there experiences barring de facto objections which could falsify such experiences as invalid. For example if said person is diagnosed with a mental illness, or if there is conclusive evidence that Muhammad never existed, the Muslims experience would be invalidated.
philosophizer149 2 months ago
@philosophizer149 "Christian, Jew, Hindu etc... is justified in believing there experiences barring de facto objections which could falsify" Well not all beliefs are falsifiable, Super/natural/stitious claims are famous for this. Your basically saying we dont have a way of separating the Wheat from the Chaff when it comes to your god claim from a superstition or imaginary friend. Although I do think There is good reasons to think a god like YHWH can not exist.
gusb232 1 month ago
It's imposible to do so. they all blend together, forming what society in a particular area thinks of the "supernatural". For example, wiccans may think that a bum in the night is a spirit or thier deity, while my Catholic pals may think it's a demon fro the 4rd layer of hell. Either way it's still just a bump in the night, and although they think it's not, it is. Does tha make sense? Or am I just blabbing on? Am I not understanding?
nilorac123321 8 months ago
@nilorac123321 " Does tha make sense? "
Yes I think I know what yor saying, but no I dont think it addresses the question.
If a wiccan claims hes actually a supernatural deity and catholic says it a demon.
They both cant be right but they can both be wrong, since most people dont disagree that the natural world exists these extra-natural layers are just equally unsupported and superfluous assumptions. (occams razor)
We can claim anything exists by that method.
gusb232 8 months ago
@nilorac123321
Heres a better construction a rebuttal to your explanation.
Sam Harris makes a joke and a point
watch?v=KZsobWW1pQQ
gusb232 8 months ago
I don't think that there is a meaningful distinction between a deity that does not exist and one that does not manifest. As the saying goes, "A difference that makes no difference is no difference."
kwebb121765 9 months ago
Still no responses from theist on either channel....?
Greathiway 9 months ago