maybe try sheilding with Mu metal and advancing or retarding the magnet position on one end of the arm while leaving the other end alone. Timing is everything. Maybe even try a 3 arm assembly and "stepping" the force applied from the magnets more progressively. Im a firm believer this can be done, I know it can. and your efforts into this expierment have far exceeded mine.
It would even run longer if you use a power driven generator. And it is more efficient. So why not blow this thing away on Sylvester so you get a little energy out of it while it is burning?.
Stop this magnetic shit. Even if you get something to move with magnets, the magnets do not last long because magnetic particles will be arranged new under magnetic field movement. They stopped out by self.
@rfdangel001 You also lose energy to friction in the system, so air resistance is irrelevant as any friction at all in the system will cause energy loss. You cannot prevent friction occurring.
so this thing is basically running on initial inertia, but a large amount of zero-summing energy is making it look like it's producing more. the magnets pull/push toward each other, but also push/pull away from each other. it works like a roller coaster, where the initial drop gives the car enough inertia to make it up the next peak, where it can then drop again regaining lost inertia for the next peak and so on. .....but not free energy by any means.
I have a suggestion to make it work a bit better, remove all the magnets. Sure it won't kind of lock into place when it stops, but who really cares about that.
if you had double the amount of gates, wouldnt it be a little more efficient as the sticky spot would be smaller? i apologise for my idiocy if im wrong
I don't see how it could possibly work without monopole magnets, which I don't think exist. using magnets with north and south poles you would get a push in one direction and resistance in the other. That is, when the magnet enters the gate there is resistance, when it leaves the gate, there is a push. Eventually, the forces even out and motion stops.
@swjslj Exactly, and one of the fundamental principles in magnetism is that work is never done in a magnetic field. Therefore all these ideas are just foolish
That is what I think of when I think of "free energy" not a way to create energy out of nothing, but a way to use energy from some source without paying money to some monopolizing business establishment. I still believe it can be done with magnets and I know it can be done with water....it just takes such an investment to build a real prototype that it doesn't happen very often, and the big boys are able to slap them down as they pop up.
Magnetic motors always look like they might just work but every adjustment makes no difference, every idea changes nothing...eventually those laws of physics say "I told you so"
I think you you put a small engine below , and through it give a small ammmount of energy , then the system wouldn't stuck in low energy zones and gets high RPM's , ant then you can use it to generate far more power than you put in
@TheKaos90 It's not possible for any system to generate more power than it uses (free energy), or even the same amount as it uses (perpetual motion), according to our current understanding of physics.
If you think that you have absolutely any chance at proving that wrong, I encourage you to give it a try. I'd love to see someone demonstrate a working mechanism to generate more power from a device than it uses.
@fuduzan5562 I appreciate your open mindedness. I'm thinking of two ideas: One, the magnetic attraction could be thought of as a really efficient source of energy, or even a fuel (because it does eventually run out). If you could configure some kind of circle where the attraction could pull itself perpetually in one direction, you would be "burning" the fuel which would last a couple centuries. The other idea: Water can be used as a fuel in some applications, then re-condensed and fed back in
well actually they do have a thing for your first idea. have you ever heard of a Gauss cannon? same concept except in a circle. like you said it would not be perpetual motion but would last for a very long time.
I think the key will be to turn off certain magnets and turn on other magnets, in order to keep perpetual motion going instead of hindering movement. I think you will need some sort of electronic circuit to accomplish this, unless you could devise a mechanical means to move certain magnetic gates away from the rotor, and then back again for the next "pulse."
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The problem here is that you are using twelve gates (creating a divisible series of gates by the bar you produced). Try with 13 gates, and setup of three in the center. Better yet, 7. It's as close to 13 as you can get while still having a prime number. At least this is my theory.
You must have some kind of a controller, which the machine can feed to it when it is generating the el. So you have a controller that uses very little energi compare to what the machine is making. That would be a noon stop machine which always feed itself, and in the same time feed your house. Look at the two australien men who have made a working machine... :-)
JW WHY NOT TRY MAKE THE RINGS ON THE OUTSIDE SPIN ASWELL AS THE THING IN THE MIDDLE? AND HAVE MAGNETS CLOSER IN ON A INNER CIRCLE ON THE WOODEN BIT FACING UP N MORE MAGNETS CLOSER TOGETHER oops sorry for the caps lol
I like your idea. What if you added two more arms. But stagger them so that you would have timing so that one is pushing , one is pulling, and one is in the gate, then perhaps the momentum could be achieved. and perpetuation could be sustained. Do you have a write up of your materials and design?
One more arm set...almost perpendicular but 5 degrees offset. (total of 4 spokes on the rotor)....this would make perpetual momentum and should continue the kinetic movement....................or not.
@sxshun8 nope. perpetual momentum is quite litterally impossible. friction from the rotor's berings and from magnetic resistance will bring it to a stop eventually, you may be able to obtain an efficiency of 99,99999999 percent but never 100.
@ Patrick... right...i did not consider the friction of the bearing, i was just considering the potential kinetics of the offset but yes...the drag from the center would eventually slow it..., just thinking out loud here. Don't you wish Tesla was here :) ?!
but i think that could help because rather than both push or both pulling. there's 1 pushing and 1 pulling so it keeps momentum. i really don't know but its worth a shot. he should try it that way
What if you were to double up every other magnet? Allowing possibility for greater force and shorter distance at alternating intervals... Would this allow the arm to keep spinning?
eu tambem sou um daqueles que acompanha o trabalho de bedini aqui em portugal..... os resultados não são dos mais conclusivos mas não á duvida que a tecnologia e ideias são muito especiais . penso ambos sabemos que existe um potencial enorme no trabalho efectuado por bedini e outros , potencial esse que a cada dia que passa se transforma em algo cada vez mais real ! físicos e cientistas em todo o mundo sabem que as ideias destes homens têm fundamento !
obrigado,spdelgado. Desde este video revi muitos conceitos e estou muito mais perto da soluçao final. Consulta o forum nova energia no topico energia magnetica . Sonhei poder arranjar uma equipe de trabalho mas acabo sempre no silencio solitario do corredor de fundo (musica dos iron maiden - the loneliness of a long distance runner)
make an angle in the rotator just a little and balance it with a litte stick in the other direction. so they are not at the same energetic spot, entrance + exit for example, i am shure you understand ;)
u build it wrong, the ends of u profil have to be + and - pole and the disk with rotor magnet must be ecactly in the middle of the poles und can get a coil to make the u profil magnets stronger and than it works
looks to me like the only thing keeping it rotating is the momentum of the arm. ie, it would spin for this long without the magnets being there anyway. keep at it.
do something like an electric magnet where it uses the electricity it generates and power an electric magnet in front of the spinning thing and it would spin very fast and the magnets would turn on and off so it would keep spinning forward
when you pass a rotor with a magnet near a coil you have a induced corrent right ? the magnet and the coil converts mechanical energy into electrcity you have loses in the coil ! and in the magnet ? what you pay for his job ?
we have many machines that are perpetual a wind mill cold be a perpetual machine , a solar panel cold be a perpetual machine etc , etc
an electron is always moving, but no energy can be taken from it. the magnet loses potential energy, or takes energy from the thing moving it. neither a windmill nor a solar panel are perpetual, they use outside energy constantly.
if the electron is always moving and have mass we have energy !! the magnet takes energy from the thing whomoving it ...you pay this job ? all machines use outside energy the question is what type of energy and what is energy for us , because we are surrondend by many types of energy the problem here is wow we can tap this energy for usefull work ! for example extracting some energy from the sun cold be perpetual untill the machines faill ! so we have perpetual fonts of energy with no limits !
it should spin up with a turn on the wheel if there was overunity in the device set up this way, now the overunity is eventually consumed by friction. this is why i think a setup like this should be placed in a vacuum with as less as possible moving parts so that as much as possible electric current is conserved to create a overunity situation in the first place..
not bothering proving that is saying don't bother doing anything as eventually we will all die anyways. Things that are now possible were once thought of as impossible too. Don't close your mind to soon.
But realise that things once impossible didn't violate common scientific law. Overunity is impossible because there is a finite amount of energy in the universe, hense it is impossible to 'create' energy. You only have to work with what you have to begin with.
How the pyramids were build still is not figured out bisecuase it out of the realm of common scientific method to accomplish such feats. Just look at Coral Castle for some evidence. THis guy did not lift them by muscle power but by brain power thinking heavily outside the box. The earth was flat by common scientific law then Copernicus came and proved them wrong. Don't think we are there yet because we are far but from there yet. So it did violate common scientific law only we adapted the law.
But if you look at those instances, science back then had similar laws as now. Saying the earth is flat doesn't violate any laws of science, it's just common knowledge that the earth is spherical. The pyramids have nothing to do with science, because we can't observe the ceation of them.
then is the difference between discovery and invention nothing more then the amount of ego that has to be put aside. Because the non decaying spin of an electron already hints towards possibilities we are not fully using to it's potential at least. I see no reason that over unity is not possible within the laws of science (current or not). I think people like Marko Rodin en Nassim Haramein are pioneers on this train of thought and well worth looking in to.
Overunity is not possible because it is not possible to 'generate' energy out of nowhere. Also friction is always present, so you would loose energy no matter what.
I think you don't understand the concept of over unity. It does not claim something out of nothing. Neither does perpetual motion by the way. In a different mindset time can be seen as energy as well (this could be the potential we are not using right now in my opinion). Now making the device alone already costs energy. It's just the concept that you get so much more power for your buck then you are used to with conventional sources that would be mind boggling at first but not imposibble.
we have an entire universe full of "energy". And we're somewhere in the middle of it. The earth itself contains more "energy" (electromagnetic) than we could ever use. Not to mention it (earth) continually absorbs "energy" from the sun
The energy from the sun is given off as heat and light, not "absorbed", but otherwise, you are correct. What about it? I never said some extreme efficiency wasn't possible, just 100% efficiency is impossible.
Sure, I believe in obnoxious efficiency, but that is still not over-unity as far as thermodynamics are concerned. And yes, the universe is very complex. WAY too complex to "just have happened". Nothing like this "just happens".
Yes; life does evolve, but not to the extent that Darwin would have us believe. All the other things you mentioned are great examples of how life has evolved. If you could go back in time, not one person in the 1700's could make you a TV. After a bit of cultural evolution, viola, TV.
@a2zhandi 'All of these things evolved' That depends on how you define evolved. All these things had a designer they were not an accident or a series of small accidents. Therefore i would say they were created.
the question you need to understand is what is over unity !
if overunity in sens of COP ( energy that you are paying for get another type of energy ) , you have for example a machine like a eat pump that cold have a COP of 3.0 ++ ( this is a over unity machine !!!! )
if we talk abaut income the story is diferent ( over unity is not posseble) . remember we have some over unity machines working !!!!
Even with empirical evidence most of the time people who say seeing is believing are the first to write FAKE on youtube without any proper investigation there part just because they cannot explain it by conventional laws. I must say though i am still waiting to be able to buy a free battery charger. Let the new Wright Brothers stand up please :D.
How nice! If you removed all the magnets, it would have turned freely for as many revolutions as it did in the presence of them. Pretty fancy rig to show a stick rotating about an axis.
Very nice work. There is much talk of imbalance here; however, if there were true imbalance, this machine and others like it would work. Unfortunately, there's always a place (or many, in most cases) of equilibrium, and those areas can be determined by breaking the force vectors into their corresponding components. This particular machine, though very nicely constructed, will always have those points of equilibrium, regardless of the stator and magnet configurations. Very nice demonstration.
*** Don't get hung up on the symmetry of the thing... thats why it will not keep moving. Think about this, if you need to give it a push in the first place... something is in balance. You don't want that... think about inbalance... that will have it moving and you will have to put your hand in there to stop it from turning all the time on it's own. Sirsmorkmo and jakl12 are speaking the same thing, just different methods to get the same effect.... inbalance! :o) Great Video!
*** The gates look great. I think the problem is in the straight across beam. You have it set up in a "balance"... they BOTH are hitting the "sticking spot" at the same time. Try "inbalance", so one (or more, maybe 3) magnet is in the sticking spot while two other magnets are not lined up. Instead of 180 degrees across from each other, try 173 degrees angle bar with the magnets at each end. Or maybe a three bar system, but don't get them equal... I think it needs "inbalance" to keep moving. Ciao
Well it runs until the energy of the original push dies down.Then it stops!Unless you electrify the portal magnets then you will have an Electric motor!If you get a large stone and knock all the corners off it rolls downhill,dunno what to call it yet tho..
If you shoot this again, please get the top of the shaft in the picture. If this had worked I would have been suspicious that you had a drill up there turning it.
I think that you would have more success if you stacked two or more of them on top of each other just slightly off set so that they propel each other forward. Forget about off setting one of the gates, that will just hinder the whole process.
If there were a sliding sleeve on the moving part that helped pull on the way in and slid back on the way out that might be able to prevent the sticking piont. Great, now I want to build one.
Well, there's a technology called magnetic shunted flux field which diverts the magnetic flux by an approaching metalic rod that "shorts out" the magnetic flux on the apropriate timing, but you have also to change the layout of this magnetic flux engine...
this cannot work because the same force that repels the magnets pushes them as well.
In order to create a perpetual motion engine, the magnets would have to provide enough force to overcome the curl of gravity on the center rod as well as incidental friction from the air and axle.
I just don't believe it can be done without a continual supply of energy from another source
perhaps the answer is both technologies, place a magnetic array to the post, that will cause rotation,add the coils to the end array to create E. If you want capacitors they could be added and fed from the end rings. Beware you may inadvertently create an anti gravity device..
The easiest way to keep it running would be to have electro-magnets on the ends with pulse DC so they could not be one when they are on one side of the gate and magnetized on the other side, a magneto type component might work for that.
Yes, that's it! As i mention before, PPMT by Flynn just comutes the magnetic fields very efficiently using magnetizable paths. So, instead of shielding permanent magnets, i would bet on comuting B fields with very little input, by paths on magnetizable materials like laminated sheets of iron and using electromagnetic control coils. Then the rotor would be induced by those comuted fields producing rotary motion. Us patent 6,342,746
You have equaliztion of poles. The attraction of magnitism will eventually find its "Center" with this design. Perhaps Creating an off center pole(Change position of the magnets on one end slightly, counter wieght the difference with something non magnetic) on the axis, but counter weight so you have an equalized weight distrubution.
The rotor gains a little push as it exits the loops, but it also needs energy to enter them. The only thing keeping this going is the bearings that the arm sits on. ie: it would work just as good without all the magnets. hmmmm... woops
but see how it seems to ocilate a little? you can probably make a cylinder like motor with that motion and only use a little energy to turn the shaft when it slows down
no. those oscillations are fed off the original push. There is no energy being supplied by the magnets. You might as well just push watever you are trying to move.
These machine is the Hammel/Bedini magnet gate idea in 97, so far no one can make it work. Please read again about the 1st and 2nd law of thermodymics and about magnetics. FYI magnet has Potential energy and you can only harness Kinetic energy if you use external energy source such as coil with current to turn off N and S to run the motor. I manufacture electric motors so I know what I am talking about here.
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sudoldas 1 week ago 3
what's the point of this?
215alessio 2 weeks ago
Get rid of the magnets, and the gates. It will spin for longer.
yoududeuser 3 weeks ago
spin it fast!!!!!
juanduism 3 weeks ago
if u use an inpair number of magnets, will it work better? think so!
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5 or 7 or 9 or 11 to the rotor arm is needed.
rotate not needed
zszabo58 1 month ago
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zszabo58 1 month ago
maybe try sheilding with Mu metal and advancing or retarding the magnet position on one end of the arm while leaving the other end alone. Timing is everything. Maybe even try a 3 arm assembly and "stepping" the force applied from the magnets more progressively. Im a firm believer this can be done, I know it can. and your efforts into this expierment have far exceeded mine.
TheCessnaDriver 1 month ago
It would even run longer if you use a power driven generator. And it is more efficient. So why not blow this thing away on Sylvester so you get a little energy out of it while it is burning?.
Stop this magnetic shit. Even if you get something to move with magnets, the magnets do not last long because magnetic particles will be arranged new under magnetic field movement. They stopped out by self.
00imwagenvormir00 1 month ago
It would run longer if you replaced all of the magnets with lead weights.
phunkydroid 2 months ago
who else want to see this thing rotate at a much higher speed?
louienatorXOPP 2 months ago
More staff to be asymmetric in the gates: Gate 6, 7 arm. The arms of the magnets should be shielded
zszabo58 2 months ago
Instead of 2 shafts, add 2 more for a total of 4.
parrisht 3 months ago
That axis/bearing is a nightmare. Is that really the best you could do? A wobbly ass coat hanger?
NavyJonTheManimal 3 months ago
i think this could work, if you could completely eliminate friction, only thing that decreases the kinetic energy.. but that's impossible..
kitcute99 3 months ago
1 though about all of this magnet based generators.
Why doens't anyone try them in a vacuum?
You lose energy due to air friction and gravity.
So if you eliminate the air friction you might have better succes with this type of generators
rfdangel001 3 months ago 3
@rfdangel001 How do you propose he eliminate friction due to magnetic flux? Not use magnets?
vipervnm 3 weeks ago
@rfdangel001 You also lose energy to friction in the system, so air resistance is irrelevant as any friction at all in the system will cause energy loss. You cannot prevent friction occurring.
CaptainPointless 2 weeks ago
Its ok but for better results i recommend that you add more portals for better efficiency and energy longevity
Jamac007 3 months ago
so this thing is basically running on initial inertia, but a large amount of zero-summing energy is making it look like it's producing more. the magnets pull/push toward each other, but also push/pull away from each other. it works like a roller coaster, where the initial drop gives the car enough inertia to make it up the next peak, where it can then drop again regaining lost inertia for the next peak and so on. .....but not free energy by any means.
MrDravous 3 months ago
if you attech this to some kind of dynamo, do you have free power/energy then?
ramoniak6 4 months ago
I have a suggestion to make it work a bit better, remove all the magnets. Sure it won't kind of lock into place when it stops, but who really cares about that.
blackjeffrey1 4 months ago
I think he's on to something!
Wolfpack478 4 months ago
Seria mejor si fuece negativa la atraccion del iman hacia esos arcos
martin74307 4 months ago
Maybe your dialing sequence is wrong. Did you remember the symbol for the system destination?
kd0afk 4 months ago 2
Maybe your dialing sequence is wrong. Did you remember the symbol for the system destination?
kd0afk 4 months ago
slooooow infinite energy.
luisfable 4 months ago
what would happen if the rod and all was one place?
turpincody 4 months ago
Maybe you need a propeller on the front of that thing
Snugglebeams 5 months ago
if you had double the amount of gates, wouldnt it be a little more efficient as the sticky spot would be smaller? i apologise for my idiocy if im wrong
arky3000 5 months ago
ofcourse this setup does not work... try an uneven number of magnets! 11 in stead of 12... see what happens than
mmiaso 6 months ago
I don't see how it could possibly work without monopole magnets, which I don't think exist. using magnets with north and south poles you would get a push in one direction and resistance in the other. That is, when the magnet enters the gate there is resistance, when it leaves the gate, there is a push. Eventually, the forces even out and motion stops.
swjslj 6 months ago
@swjslj Exactly, and one of the fundamental principles in magnetism is that work is never done in a magnetic field. Therefore all these ideas are just foolish
xGIBBZx 5 months ago
should have used a wheel bearing on your shaft.
realdad32 6 months ago
wow you put a lots of times in that prototype i like it
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one of the best ive seen so far, even though none do what they are wished to do
tennesseejed1969 7 months ago
That is what I think of when I think of "free energy" not a way to create energy out of nothing, but a way to use energy from some source without paying money to some monopolizing business establishment. I still believe it can be done with magnets and I know it can be done with water....it just takes such an investment to build a real prototype that it doesn't happen very often, and the big boys are able to slap them down as they pop up.
Superman83271 7 months ago
the guy sounds sooo depressed
shesho510 7 months ago
Magnetic motors always look like they might just work but every adjustment makes no difference, every idea changes nothing...eventually those laws of physics say "I told you so"
LiamXaoh 9 months ago
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Wow, look at it go!
wyrrox 9 months ago
I see your axis is balancing, no magnet engine would ever work without a very very solid structure.
Not a good test.
djdsfhakdfhlksdhklf 11 months ago
double the gates and u should have it
toymachine42o 1 year ago
I think you you put a small engine below , and through it give a small ammmount of energy , then the system wouldn't stuck in low energy zones and gets high RPM's , ant then you can use it to generate far more power than you put in
TheKaos90 1 year ago
@TheKaos90 It's not possible for any system to generate more power than it uses (free energy), or even the same amount as it uses (perpetual motion), according to our current understanding of physics.
If you think that you have absolutely any chance at proving that wrong, I encourage you to give it a try. I'd love to see someone demonstrate a working mechanism to generate more power from a device than it uses.
fuduzan5562 9 months ago
@fuduzan5562 I appreciate your open mindedness. I'm thinking of two ideas: One, the magnetic attraction could be thought of as a really efficient source of energy, or even a fuel (because it does eventually run out). If you could configure some kind of circle where the attraction could pull itself perpetually in one direction, you would be "burning" the fuel which would last a couple centuries. The other idea: Water can be used as a fuel in some applications, then re-condensed and fed back in
Superman83271 7 months ago
@Superman83271
well actually they do have a thing for your first idea. have you ever heard of a Gauss cannon? same concept except in a circle. like you said it would not be perpetual motion but would last for a very long time.
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Try more magnets to the stator. Put 24 of them. I noticed that when the stator has just a few magnets, it stops the rotor.
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anonmailer 1 year ago
Thank you for confirming the conservation of energy and work theorem !
gomunkul 1 year ago 20
I think the key will be to turn off certain magnets and turn on other magnets, in order to keep perpetual motion going instead of hindering movement. I think you will need some sort of electronic circuit to accomplish this, unless you could devise a mechanical means to move certain magnetic gates away from the rotor, and then back again for the next "pulse."
Airwinger33 1 year ago
what if you have 1 or 3 less gates?
HugeK 1 year ago
fake motor.... put in the wc!
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breeannaqktjbl 1 year ago
What's the point of this?
gschjetne 1 year ago
reminds me of the xmas toy that doesnt work
joss885 1 year ago
needs more magnet rings..
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urgencyharviefcem 1 year ago
is it possible to build a generator out of this concept?
peruface 1 year ago
needs 13 magnetic rings (odd number) to maintain the magnetic continued.
0903390901 1 year ago
@0903390901 Or horizontal rod can be bent at a strain angle...
noobhacker101 1 year ago
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@0903390901 OR the horizontal rod can be bent a bit.... +/- 7.5 degrees
noobhacker101 1 year ago
Por acaso existe algum material que isola o campo magnético ? não seria viável isolar as polaridades que se atraem !
MrZanluca 1 year ago
something just flashed me...try the experiment VERTICALLY then you should have the gravity with you...i think
cosmin5678 1 year ago
instead of using gates use a spiral and connect the ends of that spiral for smooth push
ZERE0N 1 year ago
this looks like its makeing good use of kinetic energy
ZERE0N 1 year ago
Useless
jib1000 1 year ago
fake he is holding the pole it dont work
clarkemenn 1 year ago
if you had some magnetic shielding on the right parts you could up its efficiency.
pyr666 1 year ago
add bigger magnets and make it have an extra arm which is not in line that way it keeps going ;) maybe lol
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henrykay01 1 year ago
good video. thank you
ottgooroth 1 year ago
The problem here is that you are using twelve gates (creating a divisible series of gates by the bar you produced). Try with 13 gates, and setup of three in the center. Better yet, 7. It's as close to 13 as you can get while still having a prime number. At least this is my theory.
pyrestriker 1 year ago
You must have some kind of a controller, which the machine can feed to it when it is generating the el. So you have a controller that uses very little energi compare to what the machine is making. That would be a noon stop machine which always feed itself, and in the same time feed your house. Look at the two australien men who have made a working machine... :-)
Samsalla 1 year ago
what if not 180 and say 175 degrees ?
;]
longded 1 year ago
nice concept but you have to have an odd number of gates to create a continous offset field
robgo1 1 year ago
JW WHY NOT TRY MAKE THE RINGS ON THE OUTSIDE SPIN ASWELL AS THE THING IN THE MIDDLE? AND HAVE MAGNETS CLOSER IN ON A INNER CIRCLE ON THE WOODEN BIT FACING UP N MORE MAGNETS CLOSER TOGETHER oops sorry for the caps lol
Aussiemaster 1 year ago
Is not too permanent...
Kompilate 1 year ago
I like your idea. What if you added two more arms. But stagger them so that you would have timing so that one is pushing , one is pulling, and one is in the gate, then perhaps the momentum could be achieved. and perpetuation could be sustained. Do you have a write up of your materials and design?
dragon1464 1 year ago
@dragon1464 it would be much closer, but if almost evryone is correct, it would have to settle sometime
EaAddict360 1 year ago
and then what?
mouayad888 1 year ago
make it with 11 instead of twelve it will spin longer and put a flywheel on it too
Jojoblink 1 year ago
This thing is soo inefficient
vanko81 1 year ago 16
One more arm set...almost perpendicular but 5 degrees offset. (total of 4 spokes on the rotor)....this would make perpetual momentum and should continue the kinetic movement....................or not.
But i'd try it if i went that far already.
sxshun8 1 year ago
@sxshun8 nope. perpetual momentum is quite litterally impossible. friction from the rotor's berings and from magnetic resistance will bring it to a stop eventually, you may be able to obtain an efficiency of 99,99999999 percent but never 100.
patrickdoddboy 1 year ago
@ Patrick... right...i did not consider the friction of the bearing, i was just considering the potential kinetics of the offset but yes...the drag from the center would eventually slow it..., just thinking out loud here. Don't you wish Tesla was here :) ?!
sxshun8 1 year ago
how about have the gates offset across each other rather than directly across.
GamingBlitzDOTcom 1 year ago
lol, thats what hees done
02norcottg 1 year ago
i take that bak
02norcottg 1 year ago
@02norcottg
yeah i looked carefully before i commented.
but i think that could help because rather than both push or both pulling. there's 1 pushing and 1 pulling so it keeps momentum. i really don't know but its worth a shot. he should try it that way
GamingBlitzDOTcom 1 year ago
2 goes into 12 so it can balance (stall) very easy try haveing fun and make it so you have 5 arms spinning just a thought.
iswindowsavirus 1 year ago
Awesome Thanks!
damian1469 1 year ago
vocÊ é um pateta!!!!!!!!!!!!!
alevoltvolta 1 year ago
How about increasing the number of passages the rotor moves through?
ironknightzero 2 years ago
The rotor is much closer to being a working brake than a motor. You all know that right?
snowfan 2 years ago
What if you were to double up every other magnet? Allowing possibility for greater force and shorter distance at alternating intervals... Would this allow the arm to keep spinning?
foozbong 2 years ago
just wondering what would happen if you angeled a few of the outer magnets to shape the field? would this make it spin longer or over-rotate?(bang)
hendotintco 2 years ago
lol shaft. 0:25
Starbuckscp 2 years ago
hahahaha he said sticky spot
spr00sem00se 2 years ago
Try changing the angle of the magnets.
DaSheeK407 2 years ago
aplicaciones practicas ?
sonidoexperimental 2 years ago
muito bem !!!!
eu tambem sou um daqueles que acompanha o trabalho de bedini aqui em portugal..... os resultados não são dos mais conclusivos mas não á duvida que a tecnologia e ideias são muito especiais . penso ambos sabemos que existe um potencial enorme no trabalho efectuado por bedini e outros , potencial esse que a cada dia que passa se transforma em algo cada vez mais real ! físicos e cientistas em todo o mundo sabem que as ideias destes homens têm fundamento !
spdelgado1976 2 years ago
obrigado,spdelgado. Desde este video revi muitos conceitos e estou muito mais perto da soluçao final. Consulta o forum nova energia no topico energia magnetica . Sonhei poder arranjar uma equipe de trabalho mas acabo sempre no silencio solitario do corredor de fundo (musica dos iron maiden - the loneliness of a long distance runner)
Blueskyh2o 2 years ago
I love the responces....Ever thought of a solar panel and some electric current to effect the mags///////just an idea
silverpizza100 2 years ago
make an angle in the rotator just a little and balance it with a litte stick in the other direction. so they are not at the same energetic spot, entrance + exit for example, i am shure you understand ;)
185MrM 2 years ago
you're very close, but missing one detail: aluminum shields. Figure it out and you'll be amazed, (stand clear and protect your eyes, good luck!
iceman43080 2 years ago
u build it wrong, the ends of u profil have to be + and - pole and the disk with rotor magnet must be ecactly in the middle of the poles und can get a coil to make the u profil magnets stronger and than it works
Cenobite1988 2 years ago
looks to me like the only thing keeping it rotating is the momentum of the arm. ie, it would spin for this long without the magnets being there anyway. keep at it.
paulfreefall 2 years ago
So what exactly is this supposed to do? It doesn't look much different from a couple weights spinning on a rod being perturbed by some magnets.
jabberwock11 2 years ago
cant see isolation of gates from one side..without it will not work
janxbmxrace 2 years ago
do something like an electric magnet where it uses the electricity it generates and power an electric magnet in front of the spinning thing and it would spin very fast and the magnets would turn on and off so it would keep spinning forward
Jay12341235 2 years ago 5
impossible
luftwaffe26 2 years ago
u are exactly rite. Lets make it work.
DaSheeK407 2 years ago
can't be done, perpetual motion is impossible
zantrua 2 years ago
and an electron is in perpetual motion or not ?
when you pass a rotor with a magnet near a coil you have a induced corrent right ? the magnet and the coil converts mechanical energy into electrcity you have loses in the coil ! and in the magnet ? what you pay for his job ?
we have many machines that are perpetual a wind mill cold be a perpetual machine , a solar panel cold be a perpetual machine etc , etc
spdelgado1976 2 years ago
an electron is always moving, but no energy can be taken from it. the magnet loses potential energy, or takes energy from the thing moving it. neither a windmill nor a solar panel are perpetual, they use outside energy constantly.
zantrua 2 years ago
if the electron is always moving and have mass we have energy !! the magnet takes energy from the thing whomoving it ...you pay this job ? all machines use outside energy the question is what type of energy and what is energy for us , because we are surrondend by many types of energy the problem here is wow we can tap this energy for usefull work ! for example extracting some energy from the sun cold be perpetual untill the machines faill ! so we have perpetual fonts of energy with no limits !
spdelgado1976 2 years ago
Go back in your hole
DaSheeK407 2 years ago
wut?
zantrua 2 years ago
it should spin up with a turn on the wheel if there was overunity in the device set up this way, now the overunity is eventually consumed by friction. this is why i think a setup like this should be placed in a vacuum with as less as possible moving parts so that as much as possible electric current is conserved to create a overunity situation in the first place..
RayJoel2007 2 years ago
over unity is impossible, don't bother
zantrua 2 years ago
not bothering proving that is saying don't bother doing anything as eventually we will all die anyways. Things that are now possible were once thought of as impossible too. Don't close your mind to soon.
RayJoel2007 2 years ago
But realise that things once impossible didn't violate common scientific law. Overunity is impossible because there is a finite amount of energy in the universe, hense it is impossible to 'create' energy. You only have to work with what you have to begin with.
mwhite112393 2 years ago
How the pyramids were build still is not figured out bisecuase it out of the realm of common scientific method to accomplish such feats. Just look at Coral Castle for some evidence. THis guy did not lift them by muscle power but by brain power thinking heavily outside the box. The earth was flat by common scientific law then Copernicus came and proved them wrong. Don't think we are there yet because we are far but from there yet. So it did violate common scientific law only we adapted the law.
RayJoel2007 2 years ago
But if you look at those instances, science back then had similar laws as now. Saying the earth is flat doesn't violate any laws of science, it's just common knowledge that the earth is spherical. The pyramids have nothing to do with science, because we can't observe the ceation of them.
mwhite112393 2 years ago
then is the difference between discovery and invention nothing more then the amount of ego that has to be put aside. Because the non decaying spin of an electron already hints towards possibilities we are not fully using to it's potential at least. I see no reason that over unity is not possible within the laws of science (current or not). I think people like Marko Rodin en Nassim Haramein are pioneers on this train of thought and well worth looking in to.
RayJoel2007 2 years ago
Overunity is not possible because it is not possible to 'generate' energy out of nowhere. Also friction is always present, so you would loose energy no matter what.
mwhite112393 2 years ago
I think you don't understand the concept of over unity. It does not claim something out of nothing. Neither does perpetual motion by the way. In a different mindset time can be seen as energy as well (this could be the potential we are not using right now in my opinion). Now making the device alone already costs energy. It's just the concept that you get so much more power for your buck then you are used to with conventional sources that would be mind boggling at first but not imposibble.
RayJoel2007 2 years ago
we have an entire universe full of "energy". And we're somewhere in the middle of it. The earth itself contains more "energy" (electromagnetic) than we could ever use. Not to mention it (earth) continually absorbs "energy" from the sun
a2zhandi 2 years ago
The energy from the sun is given off as heat and light, not "absorbed", but otherwise, you are correct. What about it? I never said some extreme efficiency wasn't possible, just 100% efficiency is impossible.
mwhite112393 2 years ago
I'm not physicist, but I believe the earth does in fact absorb heat from the sun.
a2zhandi 2 years ago
Oops.
mwhite112393 2 years ago
lol.
altinojpn 2 years ago
You've seen the end of the universe?
PirateofFordLake 2 years ago
Well, I do not want to believe that we already know everything ;)
My believe is, you can put little energy into something and get lots more out of it.
Apparently the EBM machine is working.
Or "Electromagnetic Over Unity Power Plant".
I find magnetism VERY interesting :P
The universe is simply to big and complex for us to fully understand it, imho.
To be open for everything will keep us moving and we might just evolve anytime soon!
oBseSsIoNPC 2 years ago
Evolution is a crock.
Sure, I believe in obnoxious efficiency, but that is still not over-unity as far as thermodynamics are concerned. And yes, the universe is very complex. WAY too complex to "just have happened". Nothing like this "just happens".
mwhite112393 2 years ago
Some examples of evolution. Cars, Planes, weapons, telephone, tv, and yes of course life.
a2zhandi 2 years ago
Yes; life does evolve, but not to the extent that Darwin would have us believe. All the other things you mentioned are great examples of how life has evolved. If you could go back in time, not one person in the 1700's could make you a TV. After a bit of cultural evolution, viola, TV.
mwhite112393 2 years ago
@a2zhandi 'All of these things evolved' That depends on how you define evolved. All these things had a designer they were not an accident or a series of small accidents. Therefore i would say they were created.
tcrossmsan 2 years ago
the question you need to understand is what is over unity !
if overunity in sens of COP ( energy that you are paying for get another type of energy ) , you have for example a machine like a eat pump that cold have a COP of 3.0 ++ ( this is a over unity machine !!!! )
if we talk abaut income the story is diferent ( over unity is not posseble) . remember we have some over unity machines working !!!!
spdelgado1976 2 years ago
Even with empirical evidence most of the time people who say seeing is believing are the first to write FAKE on youtube without any proper investigation there part just because they cannot explain it by conventional laws. I must say though i am still waiting to be able to buy a free battery charger. Let the new Wright Brothers stand up please :D.
RayJoel2007 2 years ago
Не пойдет такой вариант.
Смотри у magnit311.
magnit311 2 years ago
How nice! If you removed all the magnets, it would have turned freely for as many revolutions as it did in the presence of them. Pretty fancy rig to show a stick rotating about an axis.
MensaMeme 2 years ago
I concur
luftwaffe26 2 years ago
Very nice work. There is much talk of imbalance here; however, if there were true imbalance, this machine and others like it would work. Unfortunately, there's always a place (or many, in most cases) of equilibrium, and those areas can be determined by breaking the force vectors into their corresponding components. This particular machine, though very nicely constructed, will always have those points of equilibrium, regardless of the stator and magnet configurations. Very nice demonstration.
illumineprojects 2 years ago
To get this thing up and running successfully, use an ODD number of Bedini gates, spaced equidistantly.
DancingSpiderman 2 years ago 3
*** Don't get hung up on the symmetry of the thing... thats why it will not keep moving. Think about this, if you need to give it a push in the first place... something is in balance. You don't want that... think about inbalance... that will have it moving and you will have to put your hand in there to stop it from turning all the time on it's own. Sirsmorkmo and jakl12 are speaking the same thing, just different methods to get the same effect.... inbalance! :o) Great Video!
rkaztec777 2 years ago
*** The gates look great. I think the problem is in the straight across beam. You have it set up in a "balance"... they BOTH are hitting the "sticking spot" at the same time. Try "inbalance", so one (or more, maybe 3) magnet is in the sticking spot while two other magnets are not lined up. Instead of 180 degrees across from each other, try 173 degrees angle bar with the magnets at each end. Or maybe a three bar system, but don't get them equal... I think it needs "inbalance" to keep moving. Ciao
rkaztec777 2 years ago
Well it runs until the energy of the original push dies down.Then it stops!Unless you electrify the portal magnets then you will have an Electric motor!If you get a large stone and knock all the corners off it rolls downhill,dunno what to call it yet tho..
GavinS1965 2 years ago
ok try this! just get a bicycle rim, put the magnets on it all around the rim once you have all the planes added in.
AscensionSeries 2 years ago
what r u doing?
moochickal 2 years ago
If you shoot this again, please get the top of the shaft in the picture. If this had worked I would have been suspicious that you had a drill up there turning it.
sjh7132 2 years ago
now all you need to get it going fast is some mu metel shielding 4 one pole then it wil b just a push.cheers
edwardsaladhands 2 years ago
make sure that shaft doesn't wobble.
onthecuttingedge2005 2 years ago
huh heh huh...hey Beavis... this guy sed "..."
yeah-yeah Butthead, i heard it...that was funny...
DancingSpiderman 2 years ago
I think that you would have more success if you stacked two or more of them on top of each other just slightly off set so that they propel each other forward. Forget about off setting one of the gates, that will just hinder the whole process.
sirsmorkmo 2 years ago
You need to offset one gate in the series,, so that it pushes the next cycle forward....
jakl12 2 years ago
still need enegry to move it
thegreatkoua 2 years ago
If there were a sliding sleeve on the moving part that helped pull on the way in and slid back on the way out that might be able to prevent the sticking piont. Great, now I want to build one.
yourtuberr 3 years ago
Well, there's a technology called magnetic shunted flux field which diverts the magnetic flux by an approaching metalic rod that "shorts out" the magnetic flux on the apropriate timing, but you have also to change the layout of this magnetic flux engine...
Blueskyh2o 3 years ago
I agree with joru666!!! shame you didn't have a Lego set when you were a kid!
fightforhumanspecies 3 years ago
I have many, then i grew up. What about you? I bet you were a very sad kid... poor you
Blueskyh2o 3 years ago
Continual supply of energy? No need, just pulsing coils would be enough... the question would be: do i have an excess energy out or not?
Blueskyh2o 3 years ago
this cannot work because the same force that repels the magnets pushes them as well.
In order to create a perpetual motion engine, the magnets would have to provide enough force to overcome the curl of gravity on the center rod as well as incidental friction from the air and axle.
I just don't believe it can be done without a continual supply of energy from another source
senglord 3 years ago
perhaps the answer is both technologies, place a magnetic array to the post, that will cause rotation,add the coils to the end array to create E. If you want capacitors they could be added and fed from the end rings. Beware you may inadvertently create an anti gravity device..
sirknightmark 3 years ago
The easiest way to keep it running would be to have electro-magnets on the ends with pulse DC so they could not be one when they are on one side of the gate and magnetized on the other side, a magneto type component might work for that.
AKAllTC90 3 years ago
but it has to be fed from the source and or a current caused by the center poles rotation
sirknightmark 3 years ago
Yes, that's it! As i mention before, PPMT by Flynn just comutes the magnetic fields very efficiently using magnetizable paths. So, instead of shielding permanent magnets, i would bet on comuting B fields with very little input, by paths on magnetizable materials like laminated sheets of iron and using electromagnetic control coils. Then the rotor would be induced by those comuted fields producing rotary motion. Us patent 6,342,746
Blueskyh2o 3 years ago
built 2 and connect them, maybe then it will work
D4cKI 3 years ago
i am stupid my bad. i think i have an easy solution for you, if you want to try and construct it
sfitz198 3 years ago
You have equaliztion of poles. The attraction of magnitism will eventually find its "Center" with this design. Perhaps Creating an off center pole(Change position of the magnets on one end slightly, counter wieght the difference with something non magnetic) on the axis, but counter weight so you have an equalized weight distrubution.
BipolarProject 3 years ago
your a fraud how come the bottom of the table is blocked off, and what is the pole coming out the top?
sfitz198 3 years ago
And you are?
BipolarProject 3 years ago
maybe your blind
sirknightmark 3 years ago
The rotor gains a little push as it exits the loops, but it also needs energy to enter them. The only thing keeping this going is the bearings that the arm sits on. ie: it would work just as good without all the magnets. hmmmm... woops
84ed84 3 years ago
but see how it seems to ocilate a little? you can probably make a cylinder like motor with that motion and only use a little energy to turn the shaft when it slows down
lotusiotus 3 years ago
no. those oscillations are fed off the original push. There is no energy being supplied by the magnets. You might as well just push watever you are trying to move.
84ed84 3 years ago
These machine is the Hammel/Bedini magnet gate idea in 97, so far no one can make it work. Please read again about the 1st and 2nd law of thermodymics and about magnetics. FYI magnet has Potential energy and you can only harness Kinetic energy if you use external energy source such as coil with current to turn off N and S to run the motor. I manufacture electric motors so I know what I am talking about here.
r123062b 3 years ago
so the answer is a self contained generator that uses its own energy to power itself, and also another magneto to power your house?
sirknightmark 3 years ago