Wow, are you suggesting that god sent him to the hospital? That's a pretty sick thing to believe. You want god to kill people you politically oppose?
Fortunately, it had nothing to do with god, Christie has had Asthma for quite some time and he was sent to a the hospital over "out of an abundance of caution" according to news reports. He is completely fine.
When I see him join in the sacrifice by taking a big pay cut, then I'll believe he has the "people's" interest at heart. Lead by example otherwise you're all talk.
@snowsorceress You think him taking a big pay cut is going to actually make a dent in the deficit? Psh. And another note, why don't you apply this same standard to the teachers union?
@ajdavidson11292 It has nothing to do with putting a dent in the deficit. It has to do with actions speak louder than words. Show me you're going to roll up your sleeves like "everyone else" and I'll believe you're going to solve the problem. He keeps talking about everyone giving up something, I guess that's everyone but him. Once he does do that (and he won't) then I can start pointing the finger at the teacher's union or whoever else who isn't sacrificing.
He spoke so well and explained his position so clearly without the use of a teleprompter. The bright, intellectual, and well-spoken guy in the White House could take a lesson from this.
@IchBinPerfekt You're a complete fucking idiot. Every penny that Christie takes from teachers' health benefits and pensions will be used to fund tax breaks for corporations and those who make over $500,000 per year. His cuts won't reduce the deficit or save the state money but simply redistribute it to the very wealthy. If I hacked into your bank account and stole $10,000, would you buy my EXPLICIT argument that I wasn't targeting YOU? I can't believe how fucking stupid you are.
not only is this guy extremely intelligent, but he is also exceptionally articulate in laying out the problem in a logical fashion and tackle them one by one with realistic solutions so that everyone can follow and understand him. i love listening to him, NO PROMPTOR, it's all from his mind and heart. bravo.
@IchBinPerfekt Yes, but the individuals who are part of the union are affected. It is not true that every teacher or every union member of any kind lives high on the hog. There are some who do indeed struggle paycheck to paycheck and are not essentially in significant trouble. So even if he is not directly going after individuals, the fact that they are part of a union makes them explicitly affected. Also some school districts mandate union participation, whether you want it or not.
@IchBinPerfekt I agree that the economy is tough, but why go after the individuals that did not cause the mess? Teachers did not cause Wall St to collapse.
The CEO of the NJEA gets paid over $500,000 a year in salary. His benefits package is almost $200,000 a year. His salary is ON PAR WITH THE FAT CEOs THE UNIONS COMPLAIN ABOUT.
@headman1953 They will take jobs elsewhere whether they are taxed or not. They will takes jobs to locations where there are no minimum wage laws or environmental standard laws. Jack Welch once said if he had his way he'd export all work to a barge. So the line of thinking that rich people cannot be taxed higher wages because they are the "job creators" is a falsehood talking point. It does not matter. They do not want to create job here.
Hey look its Christie Creme. While he makes 4 million a year he guts everybody elses pension and health care of blue collar workers. Hey Christie Creme while you raise the pension to 65 and increase the costs making it impossible to retire, will you take a blue collar job and wait to you retire until you are 65? Proberly not. But you wont have any problems collecting from the broken PERS when you retire wont you Christie Creme.
i wonder if governor christie is going to contribute a percentage of his pay to cover the health care cost for him and his family?or do taxpayers have to continue to fully fund his healthcare. and i wonder if people are smart enough to see that he is making this speech only to make the teachers out to be bad people. such a manipulator.
@Destroyer220 honestly, peoples aversion to unions has nothing to do with "how much unions cost us". it is about hatred and jealousy if you are honest enough to investigate your own emotions. how much does gov christie cost you to fly a govt aircraft to a baseball game and to have a law enforcement official drive him 25 seconds in a golf cart?
dear gov, because of your budget cuts I'm getting a beautiful education! in fact my chemistry class average is around a 75 because some chem teachers needed to be laid off this year even though our teachers took that pay freeze. so now a bio teacher is teaching chem and has no clue what he is doing! Props to you big man! It's so much fun reteaching myself for hours every night because a capable biology teacher isn't so capable in chem. p.s. it's also a college prep course, not too difficult.
@charrrfish First of all All of the teachers in the state would of had to take a pay freeze for the budgets to balance. Go on the net and look up how much money each teacher and administrators make.In my high school the superendent makes 182,00.00 a year for a school of 851 students. Consoladating these jobs alone would save 4 teachers. Someteachers are over payed some are under payed. You should never be taughted anything by an unquilfied teacher. Coruption in NJEA and schools must end.
makahalouie, You did not understand my point. I want to see the NJEA and the State of NJ get along and work out a solution to the state's budget problems! If a billion dollar company like UPS can work with the teamsters "who is 5x larger than the NJEA" why can't they make concessions?
Hey circus clown,,, Where do you think they go? I said nothing about benefits.. I see...A case of ADHD you have... No worries my friend... No need to fear Christie is here! Oh... Sorry, we had to lay off a specialist to treat you "Circus clown" by the Maximus!
NjEA Is one of the strongest unions in the USA..Our dues go towards our pension.. What is this guy saying? He wants to bust this union up.. He has already consolidated the classroom size do to the fact he cut budgets to school districts..Maybe if this union bothers him so much? Maybe he should join this union! By the way, you must ask yourself a question...Who educated Mr Christie? A TEACHER! OOOO LA LA
I worked for Ups for 17 years. In that time my Union Dues went into my pention. The Teamsters Union worked with the company and it's members. My health coverage was paid by UPS. I had no out of pocket payment towards this. Why can't the NJEA do the same? BY the way UPS always makes a profet. Unions can work!
@ALTERED13THThose union "scumbags" are historically responsible for your overtime pay if you work over 40 hours, safety reg.s that keep you from getting maimed or killed on the job,the institution of the minimum wage,a higher wage you may enjoy because of competition between employers,and many other benefits that wouldn't be there if not for unions.Is there corruption in unions?Yes, just like there is in gov't agencies, corporations and in just about every aspect of human endeavor.Think about it
@canucanoe2861 Public employee unions should be banned except for police and fire. Unions at one time served their purpose. They are now largely corrupt and radical like SEUI. My great grandfather was a founding member of a local IBEW and killed because he was organizing a plant. But that was back when unions were needed. They are no longer needed.
@ALTERED13TH So, you're saying that large organizations such as state govt.s and corporations NEVER try to take advantage of workers? My wife is a teachers aid for autistic kids and this winter the heat in her classroom wasn't working right and everyone was freezing. After many complaints the school didn't address the problem until the union rep was notified. It was only after the union contacted the administration that the heat was fixed. No longer a need for unions?
@ALTERED13TH Continued- Please tell me why police and fire should be entitled to union representation while teachers shouldn't.Are the police and firemen too wimpy to stand up for themselves?Help me to understanding your slanted viewpoint. As I said before,ALL large organizations have corruption within them including your great grandfathers IBEW. I guess we should get rid of every level of govt. because there is corruption there too.For 30 yrs wages have been stagnant because of less unions.
@ALTERED13TH Polce and fire should NOT have unions! Their rich packages and thug negotiating is also what got us into this mess. Can you retire at 45 and make $70-100k/year in retirement in private sector? Bet not
I also noticed you did not address the topic of "coporate welfare" to the rich.
Are you aware that corporations continue to pay less & less percentage of taxes collected and the workin man & woman is paying higher percentages of gross taxes collected by the government?
Also, those past few years of reduced taxes paid by corporations~~how is that working for you? For America
No need to respond. I have neither the time or interest in your Koch Brothers' mindless meglamanical meanderings.
I debate my equals. I don't have time to educate ignorant grown folks who are so easily manipulated by the very people who destroyed the private sector unions and now look to profiteer off of the public sector.
WHAT IS HAPPENING IS MORE & MORE COLLEGE GRADS ARE NOT SEEKING TO GO INTO TEACHING! What you will see is a bunch of uneducated test givers and unqualified people who aren't wiling to go into education after SIX YEARS OF SELF-SACRIFICE IN PURSUING MASTER'S DEGREES & TEACHING CREDENTIALS!
@circusmaximus10 MgreenSr said that "Teachers pay into the retirement system. How does that make him a liar? He didn't say teachers pay 100% of the benefits.And how, exactly do the public unions "steal from the taxpayers?" If you compare salaries of people who have BA's and Masters degrees in the teachers unions to salaries of people who hold BA's and Masters in the private sector you'll see a difference in pay in favor of the private sector. Teachers forgo the pay in exchange for good benefits.
@canucanoe2861 For their part-time jobs, teachers get a richer benefits package for life than those in private sector. Check out what the cops make-few of whom even have educations.
@canucanoe2861 Why should a teacher with a ba make less than a teacher with a Masters when they both teach the same class with the same book and class level? This happens all the time . Look up your school districs teacher's salerys and look at the lopsidedness in them. Favoritusm over quality.
The teachers have had a respected system of welfare on the backs of NJ taxe payers - life time benefits (even after retiring- never paying into them), Pension ( a check of an average of $4,000 per month), which they do not pay into. This is not a 401 or a savings plan - this is a property tax funded pgrm. NJ HIGHEST taxes IN NATION! $25,000 p/ pupil Asbury park students (& STILL FAIL) - middle class paying most taxes..p/pupill average is $8k
please sir give it greater concern and running for president just because you said no in the past don't mean we need you any less. Run for the country or you may not have a state to help (NEW JERSEY)God speed I pray he puts it in your heart!
If Scott walker would of went on tv every night and explained to the public in the same manner as Chris did here I think he would have gotten a better response. I couldn't believe the stuff that the unions got away with and the media totally ignored it.
@PeeWeee651 And what about the teachers for example this doesn't apply to? My mother is a teacher in NJ and she only earns 50,000 a year before taxes, pays for her entire health insurance (which her school district mandates), pays into her entire pension (which her school district mandates) and because of this can barely afford to live paycheck to paycheck.
Yet even though nothing applies to her that Christie is tackling with the unions, his bill hits her hard. Why is that considered fair?
I am extremely impressed with Governor Christie and his style of delivering the messages that need to be delivered. No fluff.......just the facts. The teachers need to talk to folks in the private sector and get a grip on the real world.
I am a resident of NJ and I love Gov Christie. He is the best Gov this state has ever seen and I just hope he keeps fighting for this state.
I have lived in several states and never have seen a government that will steal every dollar you have with a planned attack on the citizens of this state.
As much as I want Chris Christie to run for President and win - because it will be good for our country to actually have a President who has a spine and doesn't need a fu**ing teleprompter to give a speech - I'd hate to see New Jersey lose such an awesome and courageous governor! Is there any way that Christie can become President and yet remain New Jersey's Governor at the same time? If not, Congress needs to get on that.
..i'm a teacher in a private school. i took a pay freeze and i pay into the group out of my contract for health insurance. what in the world is the problem, teachers?
@somebodyjones2 That we take our job and benefits seriously, and holding the state accountable in its budget spending whereas you're just glad you have a job. You're funny! Why don't you just quit altogether, it'll benefit the state just that bit much.
@dasteufelhund also, your idiotic credential comment about private school teachers is so revealing of your character, it's comical. My credentials are - i guarantee - on par with or better than yours, you presumtuous clown. Cute sidenote: I just wrote my sixth SUCCESSFUL letter of recommendation for a future MIT student and hoping for my second presidential scholar! (Fingers definitely crossed!) I would welcome you to try and get a job at a school as dedicated to teacher excellence as mine.
@somebodyjones2 Haven't anyone told you, that guarantee of yours don't mean shit. The credential is pointing out private school hiring teachers without certifications is only a matter of time before that changes. Are you a teacher working assigned to the school by a service or something? You're not informed are you? Aren't you just a boot.
@dasteufelhund "haven't" anyone told me? "that ... don't?" .... I understood your comment. I also understood your implied meaning. (I also can't understand how poorly-written you are in the english language.) Are YOU really a teacher or a troll? I tend to believe teachers can express themselves a bit better than you seem to be able to do.
@somebodyjones2 Why don't you apply for a job with youtube in writing correction, and good! you are able to understand my comments and implied meaning.
@somebodyjones2 I wanted to come back to this note of yours to point out, what was/is/will be successful about that MIT student was not your LoR (realistically it doesn't count all that much) if any, it was what h/she did. Here's a reality check for your fantasy credential, at best, You're no different than a TA, except private school environment allows you to teach based on your equivalent experience, not credential.
@dasteufelhund I'd agree with you that there are provisional certificate holders in the private schools and it's fair game for you to try and attack based on that. I'd also honor the argument that private schools perform much better than public because they can pick and choose the students they want in their institutions. That said, I'd easily contend that and environment in which you are not guaranteed a contract the following year promotes better performance from the teacher in general.
@dasteufelhund now, tell me how it's mostly about the kids. what an awkward straddle, isn't it?
(Oh...and by the way, if it makes you feel any better, i guarantee that i make a lower salary than you do as a public school teacher. it's sad, but true.)
Oh... and there's no career change in sight.. (im saying that because i know you're going to jump on the law school comment.) I love teaching and will continue. the law is for something related to my private business. happy bitching, whiney!
@dasteufelhund nice "gotcha." very clever, but I'm not sure anyone in NJEA would agree with you. In fact, their approach is consistently for the kids. Go to the NJEA site and tell me you don't see a single mention of how "the kids will suffer" on the front page. You're not good at discussing things, are you?
Good god. I'm beginning to think people like you are the problem; not the unions. You don't seem to be able to think past the gut reaction stage.
@somebodyjones2 Are you really this naive? Really! "the kids will suffer" talk? Save it will ya, you seriously lack context by just put that out there.
@somebodyjones2 You got a house? a family? student loan? You sound like those who live with their parents, worry free and got plenty to spend. You're just so simple.
@dasteufelhund man. in some of your comments you do a decent enough job trying to make your point. why would you undermine your rationale by presuming you know anything about me? what a dumbass move... why did you do that? Look: i have a house, one child in 4th grade and a newborn. my wife stays home and i solely support the family. I teach two subjects and have a private business after school on the weekdays that i tend to. .. i also have some methods pending for publication. ...
@dasteufelhund ummm.. you asked me about my story...but no. you're right; the LAST 2 things you'd want to know is that your assumption about the person you're arguing with is completely untrue and that there are people out there making the situation work for them; and thereby making you look like a pathetic whiner. It was your best line of defense - diminishing the image of the person who is against you; completely irrespective of the point they're making . . .
@dasteufelhund You're obviously the inferior here and it's becoming evident. I've actually received a number of private messages about you at this point. I do have other things to attend to, though. I fear this is farewell, idiot. Just know this: YOUR way of thinking on this subject is losing ground. (I would actually suggest "thinking" a bit on this subject and not being a reactionary twit with a youtube account.)
@somebodyjones2 People tried to make things work for years! Stint at that private school is nice isn't it? Have an insight a bit further than just your state line will ya? It is evident you didn't understand what I asked, that is being aware of the correlation of this situation to teacher's need to live. After meeting you, I've decided I am in favor of abortion in cases of incest, at least you are not obnoxious like so many other people - you are obnoxious in a different and worse way.
@dasteufelhund ...i'm also slowly making my way through law school... my wife and i drive two beater cars because we're not going to carry payments. we don't take big vacations. you see, the difference between you and i, just based on the comments here, is that i am someone who goes out and achieves when he needs more. I'm a "doer." you, on the other hand, find excuses and bitch. Your biggest point to bitch about now is the governor. go ahead, but eventually, it'll be something else.
@somebodyjones2 no...the difference between the two of us is that you are content where you are, and you'll willing to let the state to scrap some more off of your plate and I don't. "you're someone who goes out and achieve..and you're a doer?" Boy, aren't you just simple, thanks for the colloquialism, I really don't give a damn, nor the state for that matters.
@somebodyjones2 I'm not and won't be affected by his nor any governor, or mayoral decision in many ways. It's hilarious to see a stupid ass like you assuming someone else being a teacher. You wanna talk shit and you haven't even passed the bar exam, that's like one posing a stance as military-like but haven't even graduated high school.
Let's do some math..If 6,500 teachers have retired in 2010, and they all get FREE healthcare at $22,000 per family coverage PER year and they live at least 10 years after retirement, that's $1,430,000,000! And that's only for that crowd that retired! There are approx 88,000 public school teachers in NJ...do the similar math to understand how much NJ taxpayers are on the hook for...
@TrueBlueJMS Yeah, he's pretty bad at writing. I'm thinking he's a troll. I've been at it with him for a couple days now and he just doesn't seem capable of expressing himself clearly. lol
@dasteufelhund You seem to have many of those "unintentional typos" in your comments to me, as well. :) (I'd be willing to believe the "unintentional" part, but they "typo?" That one is a little tougher to swallow.)
@dasteufelhund So who exactly should be on the hook to pay for someone else's benefits? It's sounding more like welfare-steal from some to pay for others who refuse to
@circusmaximus10 The state's spending is to be held accountable and independently monitored and made available for public review. That's a start before you talk about cutting
Gov. Christie raises legitimate questions about the use of tax payer money for teachers unions in NJ. However, teachers are being crushed on all sides: larger class sizes, additional duties outside of teaching, and the pressure to hit standardized test targets. Demonizing teachers based on the actions of their unions - and twisting the words "for the kids", as the Gov is presumably doing, reaches the fringes of civility.
For too long we had been divided purposely as a Nation by the powers that be, the side effect being almost complete and total economic collapse and debt beyond our wildest dreams! If we had more politicians like Mr. Christie not politically polished or groomed, just plain speaking with a sincere voice of facts, fairness and integrity, we could only be better for it! Whether or not you agree with him entirely we should embrace this sort of governing.... I know I have hungered for it!
@EconCat88 no. he needs to freeze it; reducing pay against inflation would be, technically speaking, adding to the budgeting problem in the future. He really seems like he's more responsible than that.
@breakeranointingman Are you a resident of new jersey? If you were you would know that this governor is the biggest liar and screw up the new jersey has probably ever seen. It is because of him that new jersey did not recieve 400 million dollars towards higher education from the federal government after screwing up on an application. No one in new jersey likes this guy. I honestly dont even know how he was elected.
@fatherjon908 You sound like a catholic. another corrupt orginization praying on good people. get your head out of your ass and then maybe you'll see why he got elected.
i agree, your kids your responsibility. Can't afford them don't have them. You had them, don't expect everyone to pitch in. Fuck public schools, fuck everything that leech out of the system. Garbage comunist came across atlantic ocean and brought this shit with them. Stay there and suck it on
Hologram. God help you if u take him but please if you think he's arrogant ass is the solution then take him. But listen. He's in it for the money and the middle class tax payers are the ones who have to flip the bill. Nothing new. are the o
@justteach1 lol. huh? that state has been plagued by greedy, disgusting politicians for years. Christie is one of the first in a LONG time who actually WANTS to fix the books and all you clowns hate him because he's suggesting that everyone pay in; rich and poor. i'm a teacher. i support christie. he's RIGHT. Pathetic, foolish teachers who don't support him are giving me and my profession a bad name by association.
@somebodyjones2 So you are saying that the entire country has been put in economic distress because of your salary and benefits when they state has not paid a dime in 10 years. That makes no sense....and think about it. TEXAS has no teachers unions/pension system and they are in WORSE shape that NJ. Now...who you gonna blame? BTW...the rich are getting tax breaks and YOU are paying...go figure.
@justteach1 1- if you want to bring up a state who's suffering, TX is a bad choice. it's got one of the most responsibly-run book systems in the US..and yes, they are laying off about 3,000 teachers this year but again, that action falls in line with responsibility. 2 - NJ's taxes are absurdly high. Property taxes in the county my family lives in are the 3rd highest in the nation. Now, i didn't say the teachers are the only ones responsible, but it's emblematic of the problem
@somebodyjones2 My main argument is that Christie has attacked the middle class. Is it our fault that the state is broke? No. I fully understand that everyone and I mean EVERYONE has to make concessions but it seems the rich are running away with this. Where are they getting hit? Christie has proposed cutting 1/10th of my salary out of my budget but what about the people making 200+? If the state has not paid into the pension system in 10 years...where's the money?
@circusmaximus10 Let's put this to rest. Tell me one thing. Who do you want to teach our children? Seriously, we already have trouble attracting the brightest students into education. If you think our scores are bad now what do you think will draw people to education after you take our pension and benefits away? If you have a choice to make 60g out of college with the ability to make 100k plus or become a teacher making 40g with the potential to make 70g plus benefits and pension?
@justteach1 sorry i didn't reply to you sooner. i got sucked in to a more cathartic argument with an obvious fool. (making me what, now?) lol. Look: you're right. the state has to kick in as well and there is absolutely NO indication that teacher salaries are causing the budgeting problem; just contributing to it. You seem smart enough to concede that. We just differ on the 'villification' of the "rich." Also, i think Corzine is the one to ask your 10 year question to. Where's the money?
@justteach1 the RICH tax break argument is so obtuse, man. Look: roughly 50% of our country simply doesn't PAY taxes. that fact always seems to get omitted when i hear about the rich getting their tax breaks. The top 1% of our country pays close to 40% of the entire country's tax burden. I'm not for tax breaks for ANYONE, but i think the misrepresentation of the "RICH tax breaks" is seriously intellectually irresponsible; especially for a teacher.
@somebodyjones2 Somebody, Consider the fact that the 1% you are talking about holds 90% of the wealth it seems that they are not paying their share of the taxes. Cutting the millionaires tax only to tax the middle class is just wrong. If times are so tough they why isn't Christie hitting the wealthy to?
@somebodyjones2 Believe me...I don't mind paying in but the way he's doing it is ALL wrong. He is making it out to be our fault and its not. He's stealing money and paying religious schools (unconstitutional) state money and making charter schools that DON'T work. MOST NJ Schools are doing a GREAT job educating our youth. Christie is just diverting the blame on our economic woes to on us and not what the real cause is. The state government gambling money on wall street.
@somebodyjones2 Actually, the philosophical approach of the system, teachers, and the consensus of cutting the parents a slack in involvement in the US, are giving this profession called teaching, a bad name. Don't agree? Well, no problem, it'll continue to rot until everything is privatized. The credential of private school teachers need to be on par with teachers in public schools.
Davegooly you are right I am part of the problem....wait!! There was no problem besides the facts.... Hmmm. What are the facts? Do you know them? Obviously not.:( and that's a shame.
@guysenjem "teachers," you mean. No. Free market principles suggest that if you want better teachers, you have to have a system in place that will allow for the ineffective and inefficient to be removed. I personally contend that teachers deserve more money, but this concept that we're milking in response to the governor's logic that teachers are somehow sainted is absurd. We need to pay the good ones more; deleting the bad ones entirely.
justteach, you should change your name to "justbilkthetaxpayers".
I remember when I just got out of college I was delivering for a catering company and in the evening there were news stories on how schools in Asbury Park had to share 3 students to a book and had kids sitting on the floor. Meanwhile, Every Friday I delivered $500 to $1000 of gourmet catered lunch to the administrators office. its not about the kids. Its about a sense of entitlement that the taxpayers are fed up with.
@bbmatty Yes...that is a great idea. Let's see how he performs in the long run. Put him in Washington so he can screw up the nation's education system and make us dumber. GREAT IDEA!!!
Sounds like the teachers have one hell of a deal already.
rackemcueboy 4 months ago
@rackemcueboy oho yes they do.
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gregjalbert 5 months ago
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hotblk100 7 months ago
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Wow, are you suggesting that god sent him to the hospital? That's a pretty sick thing to believe. You want god to kill people you politically oppose?
Fortunately, it had nothing to do with god, Christie has had Asthma for quite some time and he was sent to a the hospital over "out of an abundance of caution" according to news reports. He is completely fine.
Aliothemage 6 months ago
"Language MATTERS..."---powerful, go chris christie!
prettypennies 7 months ago
When I see him join in the sacrifice by taking a big pay cut, then I'll believe he has the "people's" interest at heart. Lead by example otherwise you're all talk.
snowsorceress 8 months ago
@snowsorceress You think him taking a big pay cut is going to actually make a dent in the deficit? Psh. And another note, why don't you apply this same standard to the teachers union?
ajdavidson11292 7 months ago
@ajdavidson11292 It has nothing to do with putting a dent in the deficit. It has to do with actions speak louder than words. Show me you're going to roll up your sleeves like "everyone else" and I'll believe you're going to solve the problem. He keeps talking about everyone giving up something, I guess that's everyone but him. Once he does do that (and he won't) then I can start pointing the finger at the teacher's union or whoever else who isn't sacrificing.
snowsorceress 7 months ago
@snowsorceress What do you suggest he sacrifice?
ajdavidson11292 7 months ago
SHOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT ,WE NEED HELP IN NEW JERSEY.
nic190 8 months ago
He spoke so well and explained his position so clearly without the use of a teleprompter. The bright, intellectual, and well-spoken guy in the White House could take a lesson from this.
raginh8r 8 months ago
This is real, American guts. Thank you Gov. Christie for making the tough choices that the democrats and the unions WILL NOT.
GetoutNogs31 8 months ago
@IchBinPerfekt You're a complete fucking idiot. Every penny that Christie takes from teachers' health benefits and pensions will be used to fund tax breaks for corporations and those who make over $500,000 per year. His cuts won't reduce the deficit or save the state money but simply redistribute it to the very wealthy. If I hacked into your bank account and stole $10,000, would you buy my EXPLICIT argument that I wasn't targeting YOU? I can't believe how fucking stupid you are.
Vox91 8 months ago
not only is this guy extremely intelligent, but he is also exceptionally articulate in laying out the problem in a logical fashion and tackle them one by one with realistic solutions so that everyone can follow and understand him. i love listening to him, NO PROMPTOR, it's all from his mind and heart. bravo.
pekkle0724 8 months ago
@IchBinPerfekt Yes, but the individuals who are part of the union are affected. It is not true that every teacher or every union member of any kind lives high on the hog. There are some who do indeed struggle paycheck to paycheck and are not essentially in significant trouble. So even if he is not directly going after individuals, the fact that they are part of a union makes them explicitly affected. Also some school districts mandate union participation, whether you want it or not.
CaseRed0605 8 months ago
@IchBinPerfekt I agree that the economy is tough, but why go after the individuals that did not cause the mess? Teachers did not cause Wall St to collapse.
CaseRed0605 8 months ago
The CEO of the NJEA gets paid over $500,000 a year in salary. His benefits package is almost $200,000 a year. His salary is ON PAR WITH THE FAT CEOs THE UNIONS COMPLAIN ABOUT.
But for some reason they're okay with this.
Billl1234 8 months ago 3
@Billl1234 your 100% right,this is why taxes in NJ are the highest in the country,if not the world.
nic190 8 months ago
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wonder if governor whatever his name is will agree to a salary freeze? The answer is NO. RAISE TAXES MR GOVERNOR AND CUT YOUR FOOD BILL!!
This guy is a big Bully!
paulnadra 8 months ago
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I wonder if governor Fat Fatso will agree to a salary freeze? The answer is NO.
This guy is a big Bully!
paulnadra 9 months ago
I wonder if govenor Fat Fatso will agree to a salary freeze? The answer is NO.
This guy is a big Bully!
paulnadra 9 months ago
@paulnadra Calling him a bully yet calling him names based on his weight...keeping it classy...
Destroyer220 9 months ago
@paulnadra
And you are a name calling, thin-skinned, whiner. Go Cry into your pillow.
papermermaid 8 months ago
Tax millionaires and they will take there jos elseware.
headman1953 9 months ago
@headman1953 They will take jobs elsewhere whether they are taxed or not. They will takes jobs to locations where there are no minimum wage laws or environmental standard laws. Jack Welch once said if he had his way he'd export all work to a barge. So the line of thinking that rich people cannot be taxed higher wages because they are the "job creators" is a falsehood talking point. It does not matter. They do not want to create job here.
CaseRed0605 8 months ago
Tell the truth brother! You are so appreciated for what you are doing. I'm a NY-er, and even our boy Andrew is learning from you!
divisioneight 9 months ago 11
Hey look its Christie Creme. While he makes 4 million a year he guts everybody elses pension and health care of blue collar workers. Hey Christie Creme while you raise the pension to 65 and increase the costs making it impossible to retire, will you take a blue collar job and wait to you retire until you are 65? Proberly not. But you wont have any problems collecting from the broken PERS when you retire wont you Christie Creme.
duncan7599 9 months ago
Does the governor pay for his benefits.
SuperTregs 9 months ago
i wonder if governor christie is going to contribute a percentage of his pay to cover the health care cost for him and his family?or do taxpayers have to continue to fully fund his healthcare. and i wonder if people are smart enough to see that he is making this speech only to make the teachers out to be bad people. such a manipulator.
BeingNobody1956 9 months ago
@BeingNobody1956 How much money does Christie cost us? Now how much money do the unions cost us?
Tell me, which one is more?
Destroyer220 9 months ago
@Destroyer220 honestly, peoples aversion to unions has nothing to do with "how much unions cost us". it is about hatred and jealousy if you are honest enough to investigate your own emotions. how much does gov christie cost you to fly a govt aircraft to a baseball game and to have a law enforcement official drive him 25 seconds in a golf cart?
BeingNobody1956 9 months ago
@BeingNobody1956 LOL! Hatred and Jealousy? Haha. Investigate my emotions? Nope. I can tell you're not a mind reader.
Christie is paying for that flight.
Destroyer220 9 months ago
dear gov, because of your budget cuts I'm getting a beautiful education! in fact my chemistry class average is around a 75 because some chem teachers needed to be laid off this year even though our teachers took that pay freeze. so now a bio teacher is teaching chem and has no clue what he is doing! Props to you big man! It's so much fun reteaching myself for hours every night because a capable biology teacher isn't so capable in chem. p.s. it's also a college prep course, not too difficult.
charrrfish 10 months ago
@charrrfish First of all All of the teachers in the state would of had to take a pay freeze for the budgets to balance. Go on the net and look up how much money each teacher and administrators make.In my high school the superendent makes 182,00.00 a year for a school of 851 students. Consoladating these jobs alone would save 4 teachers. Someteachers are over payed some are under payed. You should never be taughted anything by an unquilfied teacher. Coruption in NJEA and schools must end.
headman1953 10 months ago
The Big Man telling it like it is.
divisioneight 10 months ago 13
makahalouie, You did not understand my point. I want to see the NJEA and the State of NJ get along and work out a solution to the state's budget problems! If a billion dollar company like UPS can work with the teamsters "who is 5x larger than the NJEA" why can't they make concessions?
headman1953 10 months ago
Hey circus clown,,, Where do you think they go? I said nothing about benefits.. I see...A case of ADHD you have... No worries my friend... No need to fear Christie is here! Oh... Sorry, we had to lay off a specialist to treat you "Circus clown" by the Maximus!
makahaLouie 10 months ago
NjEA Is one of the strongest unions in the USA..Our dues go towards our pension.. What is this guy saying? He wants to bust this union up.. He has already consolidated the classroom size do to the fact he cut budgets to school districts..Maybe if this union bothers him so much? Maybe he should join this union! By the way, you must ask yourself a question...Who educated Mr Christie? A TEACHER! OOOO LA LA
makahaLouie 10 months ago
@makahaLouie You ass, your dues do not go towards your pension or benefits, moron!
circusmaximus10 10 months ago
I worked for Ups for 17 years. In that time my Union Dues went into my pention. The Teamsters Union worked with the company and it's members. My health coverage was paid by UPS. I had no out of pocket payment towards this. Why can't the NJEA do the same? BY the way UPS always makes a profet. Unions can work!
headman1953 10 months ago
@headman1953 UPS has competition from Fedex and the USPS, UPS is not a taxpayer-funded operation.
talshiarr 10 months ago
He has my vote if he runs for President. I love how he goes after union scumbags.
ALTERED13TH 11 months ago
@ALTERED13THThose union "scumbags" are historically responsible for your overtime pay if you work over 40 hours, safety reg.s that keep you from getting maimed or killed on the job,the institution of the minimum wage,a higher wage you may enjoy because of competition between employers,and many other benefits that wouldn't be there if not for unions.Is there corruption in unions?Yes, just like there is in gov't agencies, corporations and in just about every aspect of human endeavor.Think about it
canucanoe2861 9 months ago
@canucanoe2861 Public employee unions should be banned except for police and fire. Unions at one time served their purpose. They are now largely corrupt and radical like SEUI. My great grandfather was a founding member of a local IBEW and killed because he was organizing a plant. But that was back when unions were needed. They are no longer needed.
ALTERED13TH 9 months ago
@ALTERED13TH So, you're saying that large organizations such as state govt.s and corporations NEVER try to take advantage of workers? My wife is a teachers aid for autistic kids and this winter the heat in her classroom wasn't working right and everyone was freezing. After many complaints the school didn't address the problem until the union rep was notified. It was only after the union contacted the administration that the heat was fixed. No longer a need for unions?
canucanoe2861 9 months ago
@ALTERED13TH Continued- Please tell me why police and fire should be entitled to union representation while teachers shouldn't.Are the police and firemen too wimpy to stand up for themselves?Help me to understanding your slanted viewpoint. As I said before,ALL large organizations have corruption within them including your great grandfathers IBEW. I guess we should get rid of every level of govt. because there is corruption there too.For 30 yrs wages have been stagnant because of less unions.
canucanoe2861 9 months ago
@ALTERED13TH Polce and fire should NOT have unions! Their rich packages and thug negotiating is also what got us into this mess. Can you retire at 45 and make $70-100k/year in retirement in private sector? Bet not
circusmaximus10 9 months ago
@circusmaximus10 Great Points!
cmdaniels1986 9 months ago 2
I also noticed you did not address the topic of "coporate welfare" to the rich.
Are you aware that corporations continue to pay less & less percentage of taxes collected and the workin man & woman is paying higher percentages of gross taxes collected by the government?
Also, those past few years of reduced taxes paid by corporations~~how is that working for you? For America
No need to respond. I have neither the time or interest in your Koch Brothers' mindless meglamanical meanderings.
MgreenSr 11 months ago
@MgreenSr Answer the question about theft of taxpayers' money by the teachers
circusmaximus10 11 months ago
and you circus, is a fool.
I debate my equals. I don't have time to educate ignorant grown folks who are so easily manipulated by the very people who destroyed the private sector unions and now look to profiteer off of the public sector.
Have a Blessed Day.
MgreenSr 11 months ago
@MgreenSr Malcolm, you are wrong on all counts. Why should public unionc be allowed to STEAL from the taxpayers?
circusmaximus10 11 months ago
TEACHERS PAY INTO THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM!
WHAT IS HAPPENING IS MORE & MORE COLLEGE GRADS ARE NOT SEEKING TO GO INTO TEACHING! What you will see is a bunch of uneducated test givers and unqualified people who aren't wiling to go into education after SIX YEARS OF SELF-SACRIFICE IN PURSUING MASTER'S DEGREES & TEACHING CREDENTIALS!
MgreenSr 11 months ago
@MgreenSr They only put in 5.5% to the pensions and 1.5% towards their lifetime benefits...you are a liar
circusmaximus10 11 months ago
@circusmaximus10 MgreenSr said that "Teachers pay into the retirement system. How does that make him a liar? He didn't say teachers pay 100% of the benefits.And how, exactly do the public unions "steal from the taxpayers?" If you compare salaries of people who have BA's and Masters degrees in the teachers unions to salaries of people who hold BA's and Masters in the private sector you'll see a difference in pay in favor of the private sector. Teachers forgo the pay in exchange for good benefits.
canucanoe2861 9 months ago
@canucanoe2861 For their part-time jobs, teachers get a richer benefits package for life than those in private sector. Check out what the cops make-few of whom even have educations.
circusmaximus10 9 months ago
@canucanoe2861 Why should a teacher with a ba make less than a teacher with a Masters when they both teach the same class with the same book and class level? This happens all the time . Look up your school districs teacher's salerys and look at the lopsidedness in them. Favoritusm over quality.
headman1953 9 months ago
Don't seem like he has missed a meal from the public coffers?
NOR DINING TABLE!
MgreenSr 11 months ago
Why is he talking to firemen?
Why isn't he asking corporate subsidies to be cut?
MgreenSr 11 months ago
@MgreenSr Why don't you pull your head out your butt?
circusmaximus10 11 months ago
yes this guy is a real fat slob and a pussy. new character on the sopranos call him fat ass no balls
johnxavierie 11 months ago
yes this guy is a real fat slob and a pussy
johnxavierie 11 months ago
@IllegalsLeave WOW why is thuis guy a fat slob? you must be too. chubby
johnxavierie 11 months ago
The teachers have had a respected system of welfare on the backs of NJ taxe payers - life time benefits (even after retiring- never paying into them), Pension ( a check of an average of $4,000 per month), which they do not pay into. This is not a 401 or a savings plan - this is a property tax funded pgrm. NJ HIGHEST taxes IN NATION! $25,000 p/ pupil Asbury park students (& STILL FAIL) - middle class paying most taxes..p/pupill average is $8k
dawnroccadaboat 11 months ago
Imagine this logic applied to the Federal budget.
I don't believe the powers that be would let him rise to the presidency.
niltomega 11 months ago
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Fuck the UNIONs and FUCK YOU OBAMA.
UCSDEngineerDoctor 11 months ago
please sir give it greater concern and running for president just because you said no in the past don't mean we need you any less. Run for the country or you may not have a state to help (NEW JERSEY)God speed I pray he puts it in your heart!
gprunty 11 months ago
If Scott walker would of went on tv every night and explained to the public in the same manner as Chris did here I think he would have gotten a better response. I couldn't believe the stuff that the unions got away with and the media totally ignored it.
It's media malpractice in my eyes
Chris Christie 2012 !!!!!!!!
PeeWeee651 11 months ago 4
@PeeWeee651
what the hell hes been creating nothing butt helll, my family is moving out becuase of him
manitsmatt 9 months ago
@manitsmatt By-bye
TheFequalsMA 8 months ago
@TheFequalsMA
are you rich?
manitsmatt 8 months ago
@manitsmatt Define rich...Better yet, tell me why the hell taxpayers should pay for the unions' benefits?
TheFequalsMA 8 months ago
@PeeWeee651 And what about the teachers for example this doesn't apply to? My mother is a teacher in NJ and she only earns 50,000 a year before taxes, pays for her entire health insurance (which her school district mandates), pays into her entire pension (which her school district mandates) and because of this can barely afford to live paycheck to paycheck.
Yet even though nothing applies to her that Christie is tackling with the unions, his bill hits her hard. Why is that considered fair?
CaseRed0605 8 months ago
I am extremely impressed with Governor Christie and his style of delivering the messages that need to be delivered. No fluff.......just the facts. The teachers need to talk to folks in the private sector and get a grip on the real world.
caffrrob1 11 months ago
I am a resident of NJ and I love Gov Christie. He is the best Gov this state has ever seen and I just hope he keeps fighting for this state.
I have lived in several states and never have seen a government that will steal every dollar you have with a planned attack on the citizens of this state.
libbychecks 11 months ago
As much as I want Chris Christie to run for President and win - because it will be good for our country to actually have a President who has a spine and doesn't need a fu**ing teleprompter to give a speech - I'd hate to see New Jersey lose such an awesome and courageous governor! Is there any way that Christie can become President and yet remain New Jersey's Governor at the same time? If not, Congress needs to get on that.
NonSoccerFan 11 months ago
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NorwegianYeayOK 1 year ago
@Honeydoole wow. You're SERIOUSLY lacking in the logic category, huh? wtF?!?!?! lol
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
..i'm a teacher in a private school. i took a pay freeze and i pay into the group out of my contract for health insurance. what in the world is the problem, teachers?
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 That we take our job and benefits seriously, and holding the state accountable in its budget spending whereas you're just glad you have a job. You're funny! Why don't you just quit altogether, it'll benefit the state just that bit much.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund also, your idiotic credential comment about private school teachers is so revealing of your character, it's comical. My credentials are - i guarantee - on par with or better than yours, you presumtuous clown. Cute sidenote: I just wrote my sixth SUCCESSFUL letter of recommendation for a future MIT student and hoping for my second presidential scholar! (Fingers definitely crossed!) I would welcome you to try and get a job at a school as dedicated to teacher excellence as mine.
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 Haven't anyone told you, that guarantee of yours don't mean shit. The credential is pointing out private school hiring teachers without certifications is only a matter of time before that changes. Are you a teacher working assigned to the school by a service or something? You're not informed are you? Aren't you just a boot.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund "haven't" anyone told me? "that ... don't?" .... I understood your comment. I also understood your implied meaning. (I also can't understand how poorly-written you are in the english language.) Are YOU really a teacher or a troll? I tend to believe teachers can express themselves a bit better than you seem to be able to do.
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 Why don't you apply for a job with youtube in writing correction, and good! you are able to understand my comments and implied meaning.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 I wanted to come back to this note of yours to point out, what was/is/will be successful about that MIT student was not your LoR (realistically it doesn't count all that much) if any, it was what h/she did. Here's a reality check for your fantasy credential, at best, You're no different than a TA, except private school environment allows you to teach based on your equivalent experience, not credential.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund I'd agree with you that there are provisional certificate holders in the private schools and it's fair game for you to try and attack based on that. I'd also honor the argument that private schools perform much better than public because they can pick and choose the students they want in their institutions. That said, I'd easily contend that and environment in which you are not guaranteed a contract the following year promotes better performance from the teacher in general.
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 really, Is that all?
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund now, tell me how it's mostly about the kids. what an awkward straddle, isn't it?
(Oh...and by the way, if it makes you feel any better, i guarantee that i make a lower salary than you do as a public school teacher. it's sad, but true.)
Oh... and there's no career change in sight.. (im saying that because i know you're going to jump on the law school comment.) I love teaching and will continue. the law is for something related to my private business. happy bitching, whiney!
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 union is not about the kids, it's about the teachers. What, you just discovered that?
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund nice "gotcha." very clever, but I'm not sure anyone in NJEA would agree with you. In fact, their approach is consistently for the kids. Go to the NJEA site and tell me you don't see a single mention of how "the kids will suffer" on the front page. You're not good at discussing things, are you?
Good god. I'm beginning to think people like you are the problem; not the unions. You don't seem to be able to think past the gut reaction stage.
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 Are you really this naive? Really! "the kids will suffer" talk? Save it will ya, you seriously lack context by just put that out there.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 You got a house? a family? student loan? You sound like those who live with their parents, worry free and got plenty to spend. You're just so simple.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund man. in some of your comments you do a decent enough job trying to make your point. why would you undermine your rationale by presuming you know anything about me? what a dumbass move... why did you do that? Look: i have a house, one child in 4th grade and a newborn. my wife stays home and i solely support the family. I teach two subjects and have a private business after school on the weekdays that i tend to. .. i also have some methods pending for publication. ...
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 What made you think i wanted to hear your story?
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund ummm.. you asked me about my story...but no. you're right; the LAST 2 things you'd want to know is that your assumption about the person you're arguing with is completely untrue and that there are people out there making the situation work for them; and thereby making you look like a pathetic whiner. It was your best line of defense - diminishing the image of the person who is against you; completely irrespective of the point they're making . . .
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 You're really just not a very worthy opponent.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund You're obviously the inferior here and it's becoming evident. I've actually received a number of private messages about you at this point. I do have other things to attend to, though. I fear this is farewell, idiot. Just know this: YOUR way of thinking on this subject is losing ground. (I would actually suggest "thinking" a bit on this subject and not being a reactionary twit with a youtube account.)
Best,
somebody
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 Whatever. You were doing so well thinking without move your lips.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 People tried to make things work for years! Stint at that private school is nice isn't it? Have an insight a bit further than just your state line will ya? It is evident you didn't understand what I asked, that is being aware of the correlation of this situation to teacher's need to live. After meeting you, I've decided I am in favor of abortion in cases of incest, at least you are not obnoxious like so many other people - you are obnoxious in a different and worse way.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund great!
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund ...i'm also slowly making my way through law school... my wife and i drive two beater cars because we're not going to carry payments. we don't take big vacations. you see, the difference between you and i, just based on the comments here, is that i am someone who goes out and achieves when he needs more. I'm a "doer." you, on the other hand, find excuses and bitch. Your biggest point to bitch about now is the governor. go ahead, but eventually, it'll be something else.
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 no...the difference between the two of us is that you are content where you are, and you'll willing to let the state to scrap some more off of your plate and I don't. "you're someone who goes out and achieve..and you're a doer?" Boy, aren't you just simple, thanks for the colloquialism, I really don't give a damn, nor the state for that matters.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 I'm not and won't be affected by his nor any governor, or mayoral decision in many ways. It's hilarious to see a stupid ass like you assuming someone else being a teacher. You wanna talk shit and you haven't even passed the bar exam, that's like one posing a stance as military-like but haven't even graduated high school.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
Let's do some math..If 6,500 teachers have retired in 2010, and they all get FREE healthcare at $22,000 per family coverage PER year and they live at least 10 years after retirement, that's $1,430,000,000! And that's only for that crowd that retired! There are approx 88,000 public school teachers in NJ...do the similar math to understand how much NJ taxpayers are on the hook for...
TheFequalsMA 1 year ago
Sure I take accept the pay freeze, then refund my student loan payment so I can live.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund " Sure I take accept the pay freeze..."? Let me guess, you must be a public school English teacher?
TrueBlueJMS 1 year ago
@TrueBlueJMS Nope, it's called unintentional typo.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund You mean it's called AN unintentional typo? Wow.
TrueBlueJMS 1 year ago
@TrueBlueJMS Nope, it's still called unintentional typo. Don't you have something better to do?
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@TrueBlueJMS Yeah, he's pretty bad at writing. I'm thinking he's a troll. I've been at it with him for a couple days now and he just doesn't seem capable of expressing himself clearly. lol
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund You seem to have many of those "unintentional typos" in your comments to me, as well. :) (I'd be willing to believe the "unintentional" part, but they "typo?" That one is a little tougher to swallow.)
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 Believe me, I don't want to make a monkey out of you. Why should I take all the credit?
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund You should get a pay freeze, have to pay at least 50% of your benefits
circusmaximus10 1 year ago
@circusmaximus10 Pay freeze won't solve the problem, it comes down to how well state spends the money.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund Yes...Pay for 50% of the health benefits...that is a start
circusmaximus10 1 year ago
@circusmaximus10 no, because once that's through, the state can just push for more.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund The State should push for 100% of the benefits cost...100%
circusmaximus10 1 year ago
@circusmaximus10 If the state pushes that through, then it will have to give somewhere else. Pay freeze plus 100%, teachers can't live on that.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund So who exactly should be on the hook to pay for someone else's benefits? It's sounding more like welfare-steal from some to pay for others who refuse to
circusmaximus10 1 year ago
@circusmaximus10 The state's spending is to be held accountable and independently monitored and made available for public review. That's a start before you talk about cutting
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
@dasteufelhund oh my god, shut up. take the freeze.
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
Gov. Christie raises legitimate questions about the use of tax payer money for teachers unions in NJ. However, teachers are being crushed on all sides: larger class sizes, additional duties outside of teaching, and the pressure to hit standardized test targets. Demonizing teachers based on the actions of their unions - and twisting the words "for the kids", as the Gov is presumably doing, reaches the fringes of civility.
ikeusa 1 year ago
For too long we had been divided purposely as a Nation by the powers that be, the side effect being almost complete and total economic collapse and debt beyond our wildest dreams! If we had more politicians like Mr. Christie not politically polished or groomed, just plain speaking with a sincere voice of facts, fairness and integrity, we could only be better for it! Whether or not you agree with him entirely we should embrace this sort of governing.... I know I have hungered for it!
razoredge45 1 year ago 3
@Honeydoole I have seen emails he has written and I can tell you he knows how to control the Caps lock button something that is lost upon you.
slicktyler 1 year ago
Amen to this guy and he needs to REDUCE pay instead of just freezing it.
EconCat88 1 year ago
@EconCat88
cut welfare for people abusing it too, including illegals.
TeslaDRay 1 year ago
@EconCat88 no. he needs to freeze it; reducing pay against inflation would be, technically speaking, adding to the budgeting problem in the future. He really seems like he's more responsible than that.
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
im a democrat and i tell you truly, this guy has my vote for president in 2012
breakeranointingman 1 year ago 13
@breakeranointingman Are you a resident of new jersey? If you were you would know that this governor is the biggest liar and screw up the new jersey has probably ever seen. It is because of him that new jersey did not recieve 400 million dollars towards higher education from the federal government after screwing up on an application. No one in new jersey likes this guy. I honestly dont even know how he was elected.
fatherjon908 11 months ago
@fatherjon908 You sound like a catholic. another corrupt orginization praying on good people. get your head out of your ass and then maybe you'll see why he got elected.
DanaVanHeerden 11 months ago
@breakeranointingman amen brother!
bubthegreat1 11 months ago
@breakeranointingman A DINO is democrat in name only I dont want to pay for vouchers
spacepatrolman 10 months ago
The man has it right I hope it those views spread across The hole country.
PeeWeee651 1 year ago
@Honeydoole Your fat with no self esteem, not even a fake one. Hang it up
Drooly, your stuck in that lazyboy for life. At least Christie can stand up
and walk to the can.
peteware1 1 year ago
@peteware1 lol. drooly. i love it.
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
i agree, your kids your responsibility. Can't afford them don't have them. You had them, don't expect everyone to pitch in. Fuck public schools, fuck everything that leech out of the system. Garbage comunist came across atlantic ocean and brought this shit with them. Stay there and suck it on
bykashka75 1 year ago
Get this guy in Massachusetts; enough said. Dan out...
Dannyainge44 1 year ago
Hologram. God help you if u take him but please if you think he's arrogant ass is the solution then take him. But listen. He's in it for the money and the middle class tax payers are the ones who have to flip the bill. Nothing new. are the o
justteach1 1 year ago
@justteach1 lol. huh? that state has been plagued by greedy, disgusting politicians for years. Christie is one of the first in a LONG time who actually WANTS to fix the books and all you clowns hate him because he's suggesting that everyone pay in; rich and poor. i'm a teacher. i support christie. he's RIGHT. Pathetic, foolish teachers who don't support him are giving me and my profession a bad name by association.
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 So you are saying that the entire country has been put in economic distress because of your salary and benefits when they state has not paid a dime in 10 years. That makes no sense....and think about it. TEXAS has no teachers unions/pension system and they are in WORSE shape that NJ. Now...who you gonna blame? BTW...the rich are getting tax breaks and YOU are paying...go figure.
justteach1 1 year ago
@justteach1 1- if you want to bring up a state who's suffering, TX is a bad choice. it's got one of the most responsibly-run book systems in the US..and yes, they are laying off about 3,000 teachers this year but again, that action falls in line with responsibility. 2 - NJ's taxes are absurdly high. Property taxes in the county my family lives in are the 3rd highest in the nation. Now, i didn't say the teachers are the only ones responsible, but it's emblematic of the problem
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 My main argument is that Christie has attacked the middle class. Is it our fault that the state is broke? No. I fully understand that everyone and I mean EVERYONE has to make concessions but it seems the rich are running away with this. Where are they getting hit? Christie has proposed cutting 1/10th of my salary out of my budget but what about the people making 200+? If the state has not paid into the pension system in 10 years...where's the money?
justteach1 1 year ago
@justteach1 WHO should pay for your free benefits? You skillfully omit this in all of your drivel
circusmaximus10 1 year ago
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justteach1 1 year ago
@justteach1 Chicken
circusmaximus10 1 year ago
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@circusmaximus10 Let's put this to rest. Tell me one thing. Who do you want to teach our children? Seriously, we already have trouble attracting the brightest students into education. If you think our scores are bad now what do you think will draw people to education after you take our pension and benefits away? If you have a choice to make 60g out of college with the ability to make 100k plus or become a teacher making 40g with the potential to make 70g plus benefits and pension?
justteach1 1 year ago
@justteach1 sorry i didn't reply to you sooner. i got sucked in to a more cathartic argument with an obvious fool. (making me what, now?) lol. Look: you're right. the state has to kick in as well and there is absolutely NO indication that teacher salaries are causing the budgeting problem; just contributing to it. You seem smart enough to concede that. We just differ on the 'villification' of the "rich." Also, i think Corzine is the one to ask your 10 year question to. Where's the money?
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@justteach1 the RICH tax break argument is so obtuse, man. Look: roughly 50% of our country simply doesn't PAY taxes. that fact always seems to get omitted when i hear about the rich getting their tax breaks. The top 1% of our country pays close to 40% of the entire country's tax burden. I'm not for tax breaks for ANYONE, but i think the misrepresentation of the "RICH tax breaks" is seriously intellectually irresponsible; especially for a teacher.
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 Somebody, Consider the fact that the 1% you are talking about holds 90% of the wealth it seems that they are not paying their share of the taxes. Cutting the millionaires tax only to tax the middle class is just wrong. If times are so tough they why isn't Christie hitting the wealthy to?
justteach1 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 Believe me...I don't mind paying in but the way he's doing it is ALL wrong. He is making it out to be our fault and its not. He's stealing money and paying religious schools (unconstitutional) state money and making charter schools that DON'T work. MOST NJ Schools are doing a GREAT job educating our youth. Christie is just diverting the blame on our economic woes to on us and not what the real cause is. The state government gambling money on wall street.
justteach1 1 year ago
@somebodyjones2 Actually, the philosophical approach of the system, teachers, and the consensus of cutting the parents a slack in involvement in the US, are giving this profession called teaching, a bad name. Don't agree? Well, no problem, it'll continue to rot until everything is privatized. The credential of private school teachers need to be on par with teachers in public schools.
dasteufelhund 1 year ago
Davegooly you are right I am part of the problem....wait!! There was no problem besides the facts.... Hmmm. What are the facts? Do you know them? Obviously not.:( and that's a shame.
justteach1 1 year ago
We'd LOVE to have this guy in WA State, he would turn our system around and teach Gargoyle a thing or two...
hologram474 1 year ago
if NJ doesnt re-elect this governer, please send him to IL, we just got a 66% state tax increase, mostly to pay government and teachers pensions!
KatrinaGustavRuled 1 year ago
Free market principles say that if you want better teacher's you have to pay more to retain them.
guysenjem 1 year ago
@guysenjem "teachers," you mean. No. Free market principles suggest that if you want better teachers, you have to have a system in place that will allow for the ineffective and inefficient to be removed. I personally contend that teachers deserve more money, but this concept that we're milking in response to the governor's logic that teachers are somehow sainted is absurd. We need to pay the good ones more; deleting the bad ones entirely.
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
Yet, you cannot clean the snow of the state roads in NJ.
introduire 1 year ago
ur a fat liarrrrrrr
tletech69 1 year ago
From justeach1: Would you take a job that pays less than you make now by $20,000? Hmmmmmm
I could not believe you admit the public school teachers are overpaid by $20,000 a year. Guess by whom? ... Taxpayers!
leverwang 1 year ago
justteach, you should change your name to "justbilkthetaxpayers".
I remember when I just got out of college I was delivering for a catering company and in the evening there were news stories on how schools in Asbury Park had to share 3 students to a book and had kids sitting on the floor. Meanwhile, Every Friday I delivered $500 to $1000 of gourmet catered lunch to the administrators office. its not about the kids. Its about a sense of entitlement that the taxpayers are fed up with.
bbmatty 1 year ago 2
@bbmatty i hope you're exaggerating; i suspect, however, that you're not.
somebodyjones2 1 year ago
we need to send this guy to Washington!
bbmatty 1 year ago
@bbmatty Yes...that is a great idea. Let's see how he performs in the long run. Put him in Washington so he can screw up the nation's education system and make us dumber. GREAT IDEA!!!
justteach1 1 year ago
Just ask public school teachers how many of them will take private school teaching jobs? I bet close to 0%.
Gov Christie, we need people like you in every state of this great country!
leverwang 1 year ago