Rome was no civilization but a criminal haven; the perfect representation of modern western political economy. The Roman Liberal who existed, were marginalized in the same manner real Liberal are ignored today for the glory of an empire built of theft, murder, and plunder. Well, look around you for the results of ignoring the principles of peace, co-operation, and market exchanges.
Rome was by no means a civilization. Romans were the human equivalent of army ants or African bees - ruthless, organized, aggressive, violent, efficient & bloodthirsty. There was little more to them than that. Such creatures cannot form a civilization regardless of how many temples or colosseums they put up, no more than a hive of bees can form a civilization however pretty and ingeneous the construction of the hive might be.
@drav1dan Think of it this way, the civilization we live today would not have been possible had it not been for the Romans, along with the Greeks, and Mesopotamians. Rome was brutal, but it was its large expansions that brought the ideas of city living to the rest of the world, as well as the values literature and education.
@CrimsonGuard1992: But is the civilization we live today really a civilization at all? Civilization means all people living in peace & harmony. People may wear tree-bark & live in caves, but if they live in peace & harmony, then it is true civilization. Architecture, science, technology, arts, commerce etc. are mere superficial vanities & pretensions, not civilization. Consider that there are huge stockpiles of nukes enough to incinerate the earth. And no, I am not a hippie.
@drav1dan For better or for worse man, for better or for worse this is the reality we live today and we have to make the most of it. We have to take the good along with the bad, hope for the best, and just try little-by-little to make the world a better place.
@CrimsonGuard1992: True, we are unfortunately trapped in the current situation of the world. However, we should clearly see things as they really are, that what is commonly called 'civilization" consists mostly of shallow, superficial pretensions & vanities. Also that "progress" has come to mean getting even more shallow & superficial. As we twitter, tweet & facebook more & more, we are replacing the deeper connection between everything on this planet with vapid LOLs, pokes etc
@drav1dan Well nothing is perfect in the world we live in, look on the bright side, we have technologies like cars and the internet which allows us to travel great distances and connect with people from other parts of the world. We have advances in science, literature, and philosophy that give us a better understanding of the things around us. Things are changing, although very slowly. People are starting to recycle more, EU is using BioFuel etc. Things like these take time.
@CrimsonGuard1992: Cars, internet etc. are not really progress. There is no need to rush about at 70 mph. No point in emailing someone when we also have nukes aimed at them.Recycling, biofuels, solar & wind power etc are mere feel good ideas. Any large scale resource consumption or energy generation will impact the invironment, even solar, wind power etc.
The actual problems lie inside us, in our attitude. Science etc. won't help much at all as they look outside not inside us.
@drav1dan I know what you are getting at, but it is human nature. It is human nature to want more then he already has. He can never be satisfied with what he already has. As a saying goes, "Man is born into the world with a hunger he can never satisfy." Or my personal favorite, "Mankind are not explorers, but conquerors." It is an unfortunate, but how exactly are you supposed to change human nature?
@ktchong I would argue the accuracy of your statement, but your point is very true. Rome Conquered the Mediterranean lake and parts of Europe. There was a whole world out there.
Why do great nations fail? They all made the same mistakes; turning their backs on the principles that made them great.
This isnt just the situation in the West. The Islamic world reigned supreme for 900 years and fell because they left the principles that made them great: Islam.
The term "Barbarian" was not only used by the Romans ,the Chinese also called "Barbarians " to foreigners....and it dosent mean savages or bruts at all it means.outsider...the name Barbara, is roman because, the married barbarian girls.
The term barbarian is nonsense. It originally means foreigner in Latin and Greek. Not this idea of savages. The Romans if anything were savage imperialist who reaped what they sewed. None of these other ethnic groups were savages. They wanted what was owed to them for protecting the Roman empire. When Rome didn't pay up after numerous of promises, the ethnic groups wanted payment. So Rome didn't give it, they took it. Same as today. You do something for someone, you either are paid or you take
The west Roman empire fell becuase of its own coruption. And I dont think either the Germanic tribes forgot the Roman occupation of Germania earlier either.
During this period of time Rome as a city was already in decline being significant rather as a symbol and by no means of political influence...even the capital of the western Roman empire was transferred from Rome to Ravenna during this period...the insignificant Rome which was attacked by the Goths in 410 AD must not be confused with the almighty imperial capital during 1st-2nd century AD and what image most people have of Rome in their minds...
Typical Romans: "Hey, let's go assassinate everyone that doesn't agree with us! That always solves everything!........WHAT? INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!? DUE PROCESS OF LAW!? WHAT DA FUCK IS THAT!?" lol
Rome was destined to fall anyway, no matter what. They conquered so much territory, they couldn't possibly hope to control it all. Nowhere near enough Roman soldiers, and Roman citizens often turned down military service for hedonistic pleasures instead. So the Romans hired the barbarian tribes to fight for them instead. But they refused to pay up time and time again, so the barbarians decided to go take what Rome owed them: land on Roman soil, which some emperors ACTUALLY PROMISED THEM.
honorius, what a name, but the man with that name did not have honor, when he killed stilicho, he signed the death warranty of the empire, later the otehr idiot Valentinian III would do the same with Flavius aetius, These idiots remind me of the Angeloi Dynasty of the byzantine empire
only thing I hold against Alaric is that he sacked and destroyed Sparta(yes I know that Sparta then was not the city during 700bc to 194bc) but still IT'S SPARTA!!!!
I seem to recall hearing somewhere that Augustus has urged his sucessor not to expand the empire ,hinting that some at least did see trouble down the road
Rome fell but the 'Roman Empire' in Constantinople lasted another thousand years. Rome would not accept the German tribes it granted land so that in defending themselves, they would defend Rome, and those were not inclined to Romanize their daily life, though they aspired to Roman culture as long as they continued to prefer beer to wine and trousers to kilts.
It's a lesson perhaps to us, that intransigence on both sides buggered both sides.
...new arrivals by the hundreds of thousands did not pay taxes, joined the mob, strained services, were not really loyal to Rome, and collected the dole (welfare) if they could. Many did. The financial strain on Rome was incredible (they had runaway inflation, gov't debt, and cheap imports to contend with) so, taxes were raised again, etc. It was a situation out of control.
@ Starion..." Rome didn't include the newest arrivals to the Empire for the same reason the US has immigration issues. Taxes were oppressive, so Roman business fled to the empire's edge to avoid it, thus unemploying Romans. With jobs at a premium, under-employment was an issue and wages collapsed. Many Romans joined the increasing mob (welfare class) who did nothing more than increase crime, watch games, and complain of needing more gov't assistance. Sound familiar? Working Romans resented them.
U.S. need to learn the lesson, cause we very close to fall like Rome did. Just look at how much we spend at fighting foreign war and not paid enought attention internal problem.
Too bad they didn't make more episodes.. fortunately, the American documentaries that bear a somewhat similar name covers some of the gaps. Rome fell to the barbarians because unlike earlier, they couldn't include and integrate the new people anymore, for some reason. Stilicho and Theodosius I, Honorius' father, were the last powerful people to see the big picture, it seems. It's weird to see the maps, though, how the western part just disappears while the eastern part doesn't even shrink.
This wasn't the fall of Rome, this was just a sack, this sack by Alaric happened 66 years before the real fall of Rome, and the entire roman western empire. The empire survived after this, and 45 years later, it survived to another sack, by Genseric, king of the Vandals.
It's sad, Stilicho was a great general and the last chance to save the Roman Empire. In the end, the tribes got their kingdoms in Roman territory, but Rome was wiped out in the process.
the real barbarians didn't come until the 7th century when they spilled out of Arabia in their bloody war of expansion. A shame there were no Imperial quality citizen legions to smash these Islamic animals to pieces. That is the real trajedy of Rome's fall.
@Gonzoidz I find it hilarious that you would say such a thing, considering the fact that the Muslims respected and preserved the cultures that they conquered (just like the Romans originally did). They also supported the arts and architecture, just like the Romans did. They made tax rates fair for the peoples they ruled, just like the Romans did. They built schools and colleges which expanded literacy and academia to all within their domain, just like the Romans did. They created innovations
@Gonzoidz They created innovations in science and technology which revolutionized the modern world (for example calculus and higher mathematics), just like the Romans did. They brought civilization to Hispania, in an age where barbarian tribes slaughtered each others villages every other day of the week, just like the Romans did. They fought and gave their lives to protect and defend the people they absorbed into their empire, once again: just like the Romans did. History: LEARN IT!
They were rightly kicked out and Spain prospered without them you mean. Look at Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria where the evicted Moors ended up. Backward, poor and desperate. History: LEARN IT!
@Gonzoidz Actually, Spain was already prospering when they were in the region, and you cannot deny it. Look at all of the architecture that they introduced into Iberia, which still stands today. Spain did not prosper for many centuries after the moors were kicked out. On the contrary, you had mass poverty, political disunity, and religious violence and intolerance by the new christian rulers (ironically, the moors avoided that one). Again, History: LEARN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Gonzoidz Finally, let us not forget the fact that the Spanish language which we all know and love today is actually nothing more than a completely bastardized deviation of the Arabic language introduced into the region by the moors. Germanic languages + Celtic languages + Latin + Arabic = Spanish AND Portuguese!
It wasn't Arabic the south Iberian Moors spoke you clown, it was known as Mozarabic, a Latin derived language which just means Arabised Latin. The Arab influence on modern day Spanish is tiny. A bit like your Islamic mind.
@Gonzoidz None of this changes the fact that Al-Andalus benefited (rather than suffered) during the reign of the ummayyad caliphate for 700 years. When the Western Roman Empire deteriorated in AD 476, what immediately followed was one of the darkest, most violent, barbaric, and chaotic ages in European history. Wave after wave of nomadic Germanic tribes toppled each other endlessly, with no Roman legions to keep them in check. Iberia was no different. The infrastructure the Romans worked so hard
@Gonzoidz to provide was being taken apart by Visigoths and other tribes looking for cheap building materials. When the moors finally showed up in the eighth century, Iberia was in shambles. The whole entire reason why Iberia fell in the first place was because the local tribes had no sense of unity and cohesion. They were so busy trying to destroy themselves, they never had a chance of repealing the Muslim conquerors. You can't blame the moors for the incompetence of the Visigoths. It was the
@Gonzoidz moors who preserved the architecture introduced by the Romans, not the tribes. It was the moors who brought education and religious tolerance back to the peninsula, not the tribes. It was the moors who resstored the social order/stability and ended all of the petty blood feuds and pillaging nonsense. It was the moors who brought civilization back to Iberia. While Europe was falling into the "dark ages", Iberia was rising into a new GOLDEN AGE with the Moors. They were NOT barbarians.
The Moors were not Arabs anyway, they were mostly Berber Imazighen people that converted to a pile of garbage called Islam because they were at the point of an Arab invaders sword. They filled a vacuum left by Rome in the eastern Mediterranean, nothing more, and started a bloody war of expansion into the kingdom of the Franks where they were defeated twice. They were a threat to Christendom and were rightfully kicked out. As I said, in Morocco they achieved nothing of note.
@Gonzoidz For the most part, I just want you to know that I agree with you (to an extent). For all of the culture and business they brought to Iberia during the ummayyad caliphate, their actual homeland was a complete disaster, and it still remains that way even as we speak. I've always been personally amused by this example of historical irony.
Islam was a force of destruction and its disastrous affects are still being felt today. Imagine how better the whole world situation would be if North Africa and the Eastern Mediterranean had remained Christian as they were in the 6th century? Persia also if it had stayed with Zoroastrianism it wouldn't be the pariah state it is now. The Arabs are backward, reactionary, blinkered people that's why they still harp on about the wholly justifiable Crusades and the Cordoba Caliphate.
@Gonzoidz The Roman empire (heir of the greco-roman world/oecumene) faced countless barbarians until its Fall in 1453. The tribes that came to its territories from the 5th to the 9th century (Migration Period-Völkerwanderung) were indeed barbarians, I don't know why you call only Arabs barbarians. The Franks were the most powerful of them and caused a lot of trouble (political & military) to the Roman Empire.
The Arabs did find resistance. The Roman empire held most of its lands from it.
The Franks, or French, are not barbarians today nor have they been for a thousand years. The Byzantine's also controlled all of North Africa and the Eastern Med, they lost this to Mohammedan forces centuries before 1453. There would have been no need for eleventh century Crusades otherwise.
@Gonzoidz I didn't say anything about nowadays. When the Franks entered the historical scene in the 5th century they were barbarians (and remained so for a lot of centuries at least from the Romans' point of view). They managed to strengthen their rule and their greatest success was the coronation of Charlemagne, their king, as Emperor of the Romans, a title he tried to usurp from the true Roman empire. They are the root of the alienation between East & West and of the Schism & the Dark Ages.
Byzantines (named given by the others) they actually calling themselves "Romans". The real tragedy is their retarded military reform & Christianity. Christianity is a bad religion, it softens them. Muslims are barbarians? That's hilarious dude, get a job as a script writer for a comedian?
@Gonzoidz the real barbarians are the christians in medieval and renessans. How meny cultures have they destroyed? how meny people have died because they had a diffrend oppinion about god?
That Cock Sucking Emperor, If he would have been merciful, and not Treacherous Towards the Barbarians, Rome would not have fallen. He should have used The barbarians to protect rome. Turned them into Roman Citizens.
@crk416 The Byzantine empire didn't really have a huge effect on the modern world though. Rome may have fallen but they left us our entire code of law, morals, ethics and philosophy, even if they took some of it from the greeks in the first place
lol who else here jizzed when rome fell? they were so freaking low and mediocre.. declaring theselves god and enslaving people.. it' was just truely utterly disgusting. their sport.. gambling with human lives (the gadiators) fuck ROME.
@laz3ra well I meant fucking ancient rome.. not the rome of today.. civilized and well educated I was talking about those cunts back in those days that did all those hideous things with people.
@SuperNumber19 yes. I was refering to ancient rome and you still need to learn some history.
The games were not 'till the death (most of the times) if that's worrying you.
And FYI when the Western Empire fell so did civilization and Europe was dragged into what we call the Dark Ages. AND.. The Dark Ages ended when Constantinople fell to the Turks (the end of the Eastern Roman Empire -1453 AD-) and their citizens fled to Western Europe (mostly Italy) and so began the Renaissance.
they should have made an episode of the actual collapse of the western empire in 476. these BBC guys know their stuff when making these roman documentary style movies, i would have liked to see Odoacer march his foederati against what was left of rome and take the crown from Romulus Augustus
@fallen4life080 Odacer was a Roman. He held the rank of Magister Millitum and he was a Christian. He was tribal, though not necessarily Goth. Accounts vairy. Aleric was also a Christian, although an Arian.
@stingray970 Tell me about it, dude. I play with any strong Non-Roman factions (The Seleucid Empire) and I play with the barbarian factions just so I can kick the Romans' ass. >:D
@aris205982 could you help me with this, i install it on my computer but when ever i load it it tells me that thers a problem, it wud help alot thanks!
Somebody forward this to our politicians, PLEASE! Actually, never mind! Those bastards didn't learn anything from Vietnam so their learning anything from this is highly unlikely!
And I was surprised to find out that Julius Caesar wasn't an Emperor, but a Dictator, and the term Caesar was taken up in honor of him.
And that a Dictator in the original sense was a temporary post in times of emergency, and not necessarily the occupation of a lunatic with a stupid moustache and an attitude problem.
And Caesar is also a dog food. For annoying little yappy ones.
@chalisblur I liked the Visigoths. I thought they looked dead cool, like they were into grunge. Not like those nancy boy Romans, always shaving everyday and massaging eachother.
Fucking cowards. How could the garrison abandon their post when the survival of Rome was at stake. They should have protected every inch of Rome and kill as many barbarian apes as possible.
Have you forgot the garbage he recorded down which any historian would tell you today is mostly crap?
Have you forgotten the glorious Battle of the Teutoburg Forest were the Romans lost 20,000, and the barbarians lost hardly more than 500? Or what about the glorious stands of Vercingetorix or Boudica that the Romans took so long to stamp out?
I respect the Romans, but it seems you can't respect the heritage of others, which only shows you to be immature.
What makes this even stranger is that you are from Canada and thus probably don't even have any Roman heritage. "my kind" is probably "your kind" too, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
@Jomsvikingar First of all the reason we suffered heavy losses at Teutoburg, was mainly due to the treachary of that little shit Arminius. Rather than face us honourably in open battle, your people cowardly ambushed our men in the midst of a forest we knew little of. So i wouldnt exactly call Teutoburg glorious.
As for myself, my family is originaly from Wales, and we proudly trace our ancestry to the great Roman Ambrosius Aurelianus who defeated the barbarian saxons who invaded Britannia
@Kingofsomething87 yes Julius Caesar was such a great man i love Roman hisrory a love everything about the roman empire julius caesar caligula nero augustus konstantine
@IloveMJkingofpop yea julius caesar was great man , so great that he would massacre ur whole family if you happent o be gallic in the times he took gaul , so great man that he wouldve laughed at u begging for mercy , indeed great man. lol
I love how the captain trys to keep his men in line: "Stand our ground and fight to the last man!" thier like fuck this happy horse shit I am out of here and run
The story with Goths and Romans was somewhat more complicated, as the Eastern Empire was largely involved. Actually, Alaric officially had a rank of ERE general when he came to Illyria in the very beginning of the 5th cent. And Stilicho has beaten Alaric twice before coming to an agreement.
And what does it mean "Hunns and Vandals"? Goths really escaped from invading Hunns (and it occured some decades earlier), but Vandals were no new tribe to Romans. Actually, Stilicho was a Vandal.
This is a great video for the story of the fall of rome. But to be honest the fall of rome was much more terrifying and disastrous then they show on here lol the barbarians were nothing nice they wrer animals i meen that in literal terms. They were nothing like the romans they destroyed art and culture which led to the dark ages.
Aleric did humanity a great dis-service, but he is not totally to blame, we also have to take into consideration the weak emperors such as Honorius at the time, that and Roman assassinated their last great General Aetius ( Ultimus Romanorum)
I have family in Ravenna, its a neat city. There is something awesome about walking over a street thats over 1000 year olds to go to an arcade to play Sega games with your cousin.
My name is Roman. That will be all.
zuisidepenguin22 19 hours ago
Rome was no civilization but a criminal haven; the perfect representation of modern western political economy. The Roman Liberal who existed, were marginalized in the same manner real Liberal are ignored today for the glory of an empire built of theft, murder, and plunder. Well, look around you for the results of ignoring the principles of peace, co-operation, and market exchanges.
TheAfroCapitalist 1 week ago
Man, even the barbarians were more civilized if they wanted justice more than the stupid Roman aristocrats...
cslewis623 3 weeks ago
wow stab and kill a man in the streets and no one on the streets reacts...how civilized.
n8tivguitar 3 weeks ago
Rome was by no means a civilization. Romans were the human equivalent of army ants or African bees - ruthless, organized, aggressive, violent, efficient & bloodthirsty. There was little more to them than that. Such creatures cannot form a civilization regardless of how many temples or colosseums they put up, no more than a hive of bees can form a civilization however pretty and ingeneous the construction of the hive might be.
drav1dan 1 month ago
@drav1dan Think of it this way, the civilization we live today would not have been possible had it not been for the Romans, along with the Greeks, and Mesopotamians. Rome was brutal, but it was its large expansions that brought the ideas of city living to the rest of the world, as well as the values literature and education.
CrimsonGuard1992 4 weeks ago
@CrimsonGuard1992: But is the civilization we live today really a civilization at all? Civilization means all people living in peace & harmony. People may wear tree-bark & live in caves, but if they live in peace & harmony, then it is true civilization. Architecture, science, technology, arts, commerce etc. are mere superficial vanities & pretensions, not civilization. Consider that there are huge stockpiles of nukes enough to incinerate the earth. And no, I am not a hippie.
drav1dan 3 weeks ago
@drav1dan For better or for worse man, for better or for worse this is the reality we live today and we have to make the most of it. We have to take the good along with the bad, hope for the best, and just try little-by-little to make the world a better place.
CrimsonGuard1992 3 weeks ago
@CrimsonGuard1992: True, we are unfortunately trapped in the current situation of the world. However, we should clearly see things as they really are, that what is commonly called 'civilization" consists mostly of shallow, superficial pretensions & vanities. Also that "progress" has come to mean getting even more shallow & superficial. As we twitter, tweet & facebook more & more, we are replacing the deeper connection between everything on this planet with vapid LOLs, pokes etc
drav1dan 3 weeks ago
@drav1dan Well nothing is perfect in the world we live in, look on the bright side, we have technologies like cars and the internet which allows us to travel great distances and connect with people from other parts of the world. We have advances in science, literature, and philosophy that give us a better understanding of the things around us. Things are changing, although very slowly. People are starting to recycle more, EU is using BioFuel etc. Things like these take time.
CrimsonGuard1992 3 weeks ago
@CrimsonGuard1992: Cars, internet etc. are not really progress. There is no need to rush about at 70 mph. No point in emailing someone when we also have nukes aimed at them.Recycling, biofuels, solar & wind power etc are mere feel good ideas. Any large scale resource consumption or energy generation will impact the invironment, even solar, wind power etc.
The actual problems lie inside us, in our attitude. Science etc. won't help much at all as they look outside not inside us.
drav1dan 3 weeks ago
@drav1dan I know what you are getting at, but it is human nature. It is human nature to want more then he already has. He can never be satisfied with what he already has. As a saying goes, "Man is born into the world with a hunger he can never satisfy." Or my personal favorite, "Mankind are not explorers, but conquerors." It is an unfortunate, but how exactly are you supposed to change human nature?
CrimsonGuard1992 3 weeks ago
@drav1dan Essentially its taking the bad along with the good.
CrimsonGuard1992 4 weeks ago
Rome did not "master the known world." In the Far East, the ancient China did not even know Rome existed.
ktchong 1 month ago
@ktchong I would argue the accuracy of your statement, but your point is very true. Rome Conquered the Mediterranean lake and parts of Europe. There was a whole world out there.
billyboston2002 1 month ago
@ktchong Yes they knew of each other's existence.
Lysandros 1 month ago
Why do great nations fail? They all made the same mistakes; turning their backs on the principles that made them great.
This isnt just the situation in the West. The Islamic world reigned supreme for 900 years and fell because they left the principles that made them great: Islam.
Azamspazam91 1 month ago
I saw, I came, I died
toymachinenoobskater 1 month ago 5
'Roma nunca cayó realmente, tan solo cambió de continente'
Komnenit 1 month ago
The term "Barbarian" was not only used by the Romans ,the Chinese also called "Barbarians " to foreigners....and it dosent mean savages or bruts at all it means.outsider...the name Barbara, is roman because, the married barbarian girls.
ThePantruca 1 month ago
The term barbarian is nonsense. It originally means foreigner in Latin and Greek. Not this idea of savages. The Romans if anything were savage imperialist who reaped what they sewed. None of these other ethnic groups were savages. They wanted what was owed to them for protecting the Roman empire. When Rome didn't pay up after numerous of promises, the ethnic groups wanted payment. So Rome didn't give it, they took it. Same as today. You do something for someone, you either are paid or you take
trey9386 2 months ago
the Goths image was Rockstar... some of them look like Kurt Cobaine >_<
HolyCow4343 2 months ago
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0:21 Rome was so advanced that they used CGI catapults 1500 years before the world knew of computers.
VobisPacem 2 months ago
The west Roman empire fell becuase of its own coruption. And I dont think either the Germanic tribes forgot the Roman occupation of Germania earlier either.
BirkaViking 2 months ago
any1else sad ur on the last episode..? :'(
thc024 3 months ago
During this period of time Rome as a city was already in decline being significant rather as a symbol and by no means of political influence...even the capital of the western Roman empire was transferred from Rome to Ravenna during this period...the insignificant Rome which was attacked by the Goths in 410 AD must not be confused with the almighty imperial capital during 1st-2nd century AD and what image most people have of Rome in their minds...
lapislazuli248 3 months ago
Typical Romans: "Hey, let's go assassinate everyone that doesn't agree with us! That always solves everything!........WHAT? INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!? DUE PROCESS OF LAW!? WHAT DA FUCK IS THAT!?" lol
samsandoa25 4 months ago
Rome was destined to fall anyway, no matter what. They conquered so much territory, they couldn't possibly hope to control it all. Nowhere near enough Roman soldiers, and Roman citizens often turned down military service for hedonistic pleasures instead. So the Romans hired the barbarian tribes to fight for them instead. But they refused to pay up time and time again, so the barbarians decided to go take what Rome owed them: land on Roman soil, which some emperors ACTUALLY PROMISED THEM.
samsandoa25 4 months ago
The barbarians were singing movie songs lol
schmoukiz 4 months ago
I just love how Alaric the Goth is all dark and swarthy and the Romans are all lily-white.
jlop985 4 months ago
The guy playing Alaric doesnt look remotely germanic
Kingofsomething87 4 months ago
@Kingofsomething87
He does. There are many Germanic groups that all look different, you know.
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@Vovk3 Yeah but this guy looks more spanish or middle eastern. Its not that he is dark. His facial features are simply not Germanic.
Kingofsomething87 4 months ago
Now why can't my text book be all action-packed like this
talkindurinthemovie 4 months ago
honorius, what a name, but the man with that name did not have honor, when he killed stilicho, he signed the death warranty of the empire, later the otehr idiot Valentinian III would do the same with Flavius aetius, These idiots remind me of the Angeloi Dynasty of the byzantine empire
Justinian43 5 months ago
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akisgr8101 5 months ago
only thing I hold against Alaric is that he sacked and destroyed Sparta(yes I know that Sparta then was not the city during 700bc to 194bc) but still IT'S SPARTA!!!!
MsGampo 5 months ago
Fianlly they get the Roman soilders uniforms right in a doc/Show
TitusUSA10 6 months ago
Honorius...what an ironic name for a liar and a murderer.
0NoName9 6 months ago
Don't forget about the Mongolians! Those damn Mongolians!(lol!)
kisssexxx 6 months ago
This is the story of how America Will Unfortuately Fall!
kisssexxx 6 months ago
In 1000 years on a distant planet man will watch the events which lead to our fall
zerker12568901 6 months ago
I seem to recall hearing somewhere that Augustus has urged his sucessor not to expand the empire ,hinting that some at least did see trouble down the road
Nerpha 7 months ago
Rome fell but the 'Roman Empire' in Constantinople lasted another thousand years. Rome would not accept the German tribes it granted land so that in defending themselves, they would defend Rome, and those were not inclined to Romanize their daily life, though they aspired to Roman culture as long as they continued to prefer beer to wine and trousers to kilts.
It's a lesson perhaps to us, that intransigence on both sides buggered both sides.
Saiaton 7 months ago
...new arrivals by the hundreds of thousands did not pay taxes, joined the mob, strained services, were not really loyal to Rome, and collected the dole (welfare) if they could. Many did. The financial strain on Rome was incredible (they had runaway inflation, gov't debt, and cheap imports to contend with) so, taxes were raised again, etc. It was a situation out of control.
Categorycinque 7 months ago
@ Starion..." Rome didn't include the newest arrivals to the Empire for the same reason the US has immigration issues. Taxes were oppressive, so Roman business fled to the empire's edge to avoid it, thus unemploying Romans. With jobs at a premium, under-employment was an issue and wages collapsed. Many Romans joined the increasing mob (welfare class) who did nothing more than increase crime, watch games, and complain of needing more gov't assistance. Sound familiar? Working Romans resented them.
Categorycinque 7 months ago
Every Elected Official needs to watch this part!! History always Repeats itself.. No Matter how Mighty, any Nation can Fall.
Mr1958louief 7 months ago
A boss making bad business decisions that brings down the house. How history repeats itself.
PaulGrantDesigns 7 months ago
U.S. need to learn the lesson, cause we very close to fall like Rome did. Just look at how much we spend at fighting foreign war and not paid enought attention internal problem.
0mega101 7 months ago
1:23..Please Alaric, Say it, don't spray it
322ize 8 months ago 8
So this is how Rome fell.
ILOVEMONROVIA 8 months ago
"How long do we have to live like this? " What? You don't like camping?
JasonDamisch 10 months ago
Too bad they didn't make more episodes.. fortunately, the American documentaries that bear a somewhat similar name covers some of the gaps. Rome fell to the barbarians because unlike earlier, they couldn't include and integrate the new people anymore, for some reason. Stilicho and Theodosius I, Honorius' father, were the last powerful people to see the big picture, it seems. It's weird to see the maps, though, how the western part just disappears while the eastern part doesn't even shrink.
starionpatrol 10 months ago
This wasn't the fall of Rome, this was just a sack, this sack by Alaric happened 66 years before the real fall of Rome, and the entire roman western empire. The empire survived after this, and 45 years later, it survived to another sack, by Genseric, king of the Vandals.
Boifeicasempre 10 months ago
It's sad, Stilicho was a great general and the last chance to save the Roman Empire. In the end, the tribes got their kingdoms in Roman territory, but Rome was wiped out in the process.
mst3k4evur 10 months ago
Rome total war using Medieval 2's engine?
GnaReffotsirk 10 months ago
@GnaReffotsirk Rather Medieval 2 used Rome Total War's engine.
Nolaris3 10 months ago
man after i saw all this videos i am always play rome total war
Aprokind 10 months ago
the real barbarians didn't come until the 7th century when they spilled out of Arabia in their bloody war of expansion. A shame there were no Imperial quality citizen legions to smash these Islamic animals to pieces. That is the real trajedy of Rome's fall.
Gonzoidz 11 months ago 9
@Gonzoidz I find it hilarious that you would say such a thing, considering the fact that the Muslims respected and preserved the cultures that they conquered (just like the Romans originally did). They also supported the arts and architecture, just like the Romans did. They made tax rates fair for the peoples they ruled, just like the Romans did. They built schools and colleges which expanded literacy and academia to all within their domain, just like the Romans did. They created innovations
samsandoa25 4 months ago 4
@Gonzoidz They created innovations in science and technology which revolutionized the modern world (for example calculus and higher mathematics), just like the Romans did. They brought civilization to Hispania, in an age where barbarian tribes slaughtered each others villages every other day of the week, just like the Romans did. They fought and gave their lives to protect and defend the people they absorbed into their empire, once again: just like the Romans did. History: LEARN IT!
samsandoa25 4 months ago
@samsandoa25
They were rightly kicked out and Spain prospered without them you mean. Look at Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria where the evicted Moors ended up. Backward, poor and desperate. History: LEARN IT!
Gonzoidz 3 months ago
@Gonzoidz Actually, Spain was already prospering when they were in the region, and you cannot deny it. Look at all of the architecture that they introduced into Iberia, which still stands today. Spain did not prosper for many centuries after the moors were kicked out. On the contrary, you had mass poverty, political disunity, and religious violence and intolerance by the new christian rulers (ironically, the moors avoided that one). Again, History: LEARN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
samsandoa25 3 months ago
@Gonzoidz Finally, let us not forget the fact that the Spanish language which we all know and love today is actually nothing more than a completely bastardized deviation of the Arabic language introduced into the region by the moors. Germanic languages + Celtic languages + Latin + Arabic = Spanish AND Portuguese!
samsandoa25 3 months ago
@samsandoa25
It wasn't Arabic the south Iberian Moors spoke you clown, it was known as Mozarabic, a Latin derived language which just means Arabised Latin. The Arab influence on modern day Spanish is tiny. A bit like your Islamic mind.
Gonzoidz 3 months ago
@Gonzoidz None of this changes the fact that Al-Andalus benefited (rather than suffered) during the reign of the ummayyad caliphate for 700 years. When the Western Roman Empire deteriorated in AD 476, what immediately followed was one of the darkest, most violent, barbaric, and chaotic ages in European history. Wave after wave of nomadic Germanic tribes toppled each other endlessly, with no Roman legions to keep them in check. Iberia was no different. The infrastructure the Romans worked so hard
samsandoa25 3 months ago
@Gonzoidz to provide was being taken apart by Visigoths and other tribes looking for cheap building materials. When the moors finally showed up in the eighth century, Iberia was in shambles. The whole entire reason why Iberia fell in the first place was because the local tribes had no sense of unity and cohesion. They were so busy trying to destroy themselves, they never had a chance of repealing the Muslim conquerors. You can't blame the moors for the incompetence of the Visigoths. It was the
samsandoa25 3 months ago
@Gonzoidz moors who preserved the architecture introduced by the Romans, not the tribes. It was the moors who brought education and religious tolerance back to the peninsula, not the tribes. It was the moors who resstored the social order/stability and ended all of the petty blood feuds and pillaging nonsense. It was the moors who brought civilization back to Iberia. While Europe was falling into the "dark ages", Iberia was rising into a new GOLDEN AGE with the Moors. They were NOT barbarians.
samsandoa25 3 months ago
@samsandoa25
The Moors were not Arabs anyway, they were mostly Berber Imazighen people that converted to a pile of garbage called Islam because they were at the point of an Arab invaders sword. They filled a vacuum left by Rome in the eastern Mediterranean, nothing more, and started a bloody war of expansion into the kingdom of the Franks where they were defeated twice. They were a threat to Christendom and were rightfully kicked out. As I said, in Morocco they achieved nothing of note.
Gonzoidz 3 months ago
@Gonzoidz For the most part, I just want you to know that I agree with you (to an extent). For all of the culture and business they brought to Iberia during the ummayyad caliphate, their actual homeland was a complete disaster, and it still remains that way even as we speak. I've always been personally amused by this example of historical irony.
samsandoa25 3 months ago
@samsandoa25
Islam was a force of destruction and its disastrous affects are still being felt today. Imagine how better the whole world situation would be if North Africa and the Eastern Mediterranean had remained Christian as they were in the 6th century? Persia also if it had stayed with Zoroastrianism it wouldn't be the pariah state it is now. The Arabs are backward, reactionary, blinkered people that's why they still harp on about the wholly justifiable Crusades and the Cordoba Caliphate.
Gonzoidz 3 months ago
@Gonzoidz
Sup modern day xenophobia! How you doin'?
postification 3 months ago
@Gonzoidz The Roman empire (heir of the greco-roman world/oecumene) faced countless barbarians until its Fall in 1453. The tribes that came to its territories from the 5th to the 9th century (Migration Period-Völkerwanderung) were indeed barbarians, I don't know why you call only Arabs barbarians. The Franks were the most powerful of them and caused a lot of trouble (political & military) to the Roman Empire.
The Arabs did find resistance. The Roman empire held most of its lands from it.
Lhein33 2 months ago
@Lhein33
The Franks, or French, are not barbarians today nor have they been for a thousand years. The Byzantine's also controlled all of North Africa and the Eastern Med, they lost this to Mohammedan forces centuries before 1453. There would have been no need for eleventh century Crusades otherwise.
Gonzoidz 2 months ago
@Gonzoidz I didn't say anything about nowadays. When the Franks entered the historical scene in the 5th century they were barbarians (and remained so for a lot of centuries at least from the Romans' point of view). They managed to strengthen their rule and their greatest success was the coronation of Charlemagne, their king, as Emperor of the Romans, a title he tried to usurp from the true Roman empire. They are the root of the alienation between East & West and of the Schism & the Dark Ages.
Lhein33 2 months ago
@Gonzoidz
What a joke!
Byzantines (named given by the others) they actually calling themselves "Romans". The real tragedy is their retarded military reform & Christianity. Christianity is a bad religion, it softens them. Muslims are barbarians? That's hilarious dude, get a job as a script writer for a comedian?
KubernetePirata 2 months ago
@Gonzoidz the real barbarians are the christians in medieval and renessans. How meny cultures have they destroyed? how meny people have died because they had a diffrend oppinion about god?
lenuttaja3 1 month ago in playlist Ancient Rome The Rise and Fall of an Empire
@lenuttaja3 Any religion breeds barbarians.
TheBardicDruid 1 month ago
@TheBardicDruid true
lenuttaja3 1 month ago
cliffs anyone?
akparker1 11 months ago
That Cock Sucking Emperor, If he would have been merciful, and not Treacherous Towards the Barbarians, Rome would not have fallen. He should have used The barbarians to protect rome. Turned them into Roman Citizens.
DgosFinnest 11 months ago
@DgosFinnest Rome would have fallen regardless
iparra393 11 months ago
@DgosFinnest yes, but the system was already too corrupt and the empire was too weak to do any thing
gtsgtsgt 11 months ago
@gtsgtsgt Yeah thats true, any corrupt system will eventually turn in on its self and Collapse. The same seems to be happening with America, today.
DgosFinnest 11 months ago
@DgosFinnest
fuck obama
BOWENSblog 10 months ago
@BOWENSblog Well Actually, fuck who ever Controls Obama. Because, Obama is not in control of the Government, someone else is pulling his strings.
DgosFinnest 10 months ago 2
@DgosFinnest Agreed 200%
samsandoa25 4 months ago
@DgosFinnest Barbarians should have stayed where they were
Dalbert342 11 months ago
They should do a critical moment series for the Byzantine Empire.
crk416 1 year ago 9
@crk416 The Byzantine empire didn't really have a huge effect on the modern world though. Rome may have fallen but they left us our entire code of law, morals, ethics and philosophy, even if they took some of it from the greeks in the first place
smile221 3 months ago
How can they be seen as barbarians if they were Christian?
I know their differences, I'm just saying lol!
Kelly14UK 1 year ago
what's wrong with being a animal? atleast you can do want you want to do
Brillan8 1 year ago
lol who else here jizzed when rome fell? they were so freaking low and mediocre.. declaring theselves god and enslaving people.. it' was just truely utterly disgusting. their sport.. gambling with human lives (the gadiators) fuck ROME.
SuperNumber19 1 year ago
@SuperNumber19 you need to study more friend
laz3ra 1 year ago
@laz3ra well I meant fucking ancient rome.. not the rome of today.. civilized and well educated I was talking about those cunts back in those days that did all those hideous things with people.
SuperNumber19 1 year ago
@SuperNumber19 yes. I was refering to ancient rome and you still need to learn some history.
The games were not 'till the death (most of the times) if that's worrying you.
And FYI when the Western Empire fell so did civilization and Europe was dragged into what we call the Dark Ages. AND.. The Dark Ages ended when Constantinople fell to the Turks (the end of the Eastern Roman Empire -1453 AD-) and their citizens fled to Western Europe (mostly Italy) and so began the Renaissance.
laz3ra 1 year ago
i wish the roman emprie still lasted
hoiitsmaxime 1 year ago
they should have made an episode of the actual collapse of the western empire in 476. these BBC guys know their stuff when making these roman documentary style movies, i would have liked to see Odoacer march his foederati against what was left of rome and take the crown from Romulus Augustus
fallen4life080 1 year ago
@fallen4life080 Odacer was a Roman. He held the rank of Magister Millitum and he was a Christian. He was tribal, though not necessarily Goth. Accounts vairy. Aleric was also a Christian, although an Arian.
gamesbok 1 year ago
Who else really wants to play Rome Total War now?
stingray970 1 year ago 136
@stingray970 mate im installing it as i watch this =)
SovietTimka 1 year ago
@stingray970 Tell me about it, dude. I play with any strong Non-Roman factions (The Seleucid Empire) and I play with the barbarian factions just so I can kick the Romans' ass. >:D
pierreg666 8 months ago
@pierreg666 you mean CPU's ass. Ya i know, rome is powerful but the senate decrease your freedom also
purefatdude2 7 months ago
@stingray970 I WANT TO PLAY ROME TOTAL WAR BARBARIAN INVASION
spartanf34 7 months ago
@stingray970 I have it c:
MrJmandude 6 months ago
@stingray970
i do
OrmpleStudios 6 months ago
@stingray970 try Europa Barbarorum. Its a mod for RTW, so epic.
aris205982 5 months ago
@aris205982 I already have...
stingray970 5 months ago
@aris205982 could you help me with this, i install it on my computer but when ever i load it it tells me that thers a problem, it wud help alot thanks!
GrandeSalvatore96 5 months ago
@stingray970 barbarian invasion
spartanf34 4 months ago
romans destroyed rome...barbarians just did the finishing cut...
Cardan011 1 year ago 11
@Cardan011
Just as Americans destroyed the USA. The darkies are coming in to finish the job.
Vovk3 4 months ago in playlist More videos from Gr0nTh0s
@Vovk3
I'd ay that most of the other barbarians, however, hardly look Germanic at all.
Vovk3 4 months ago in playlist More videos from Gr0nTh0s
Somebody forward this to our politicians, PLEASE! Actually, never mind! Those bastards didn't learn anything from Vietnam so their learning anything from this is highly unlikely!
MyRiseToHonor 1 year ago 4
america's next
jumpingonglass 1 year ago 4
4:35
LMAO that scene was taken from a genghis khan documentary,those are mongols,not romans lol
ulongkoror 1 year ago
@ulongkoror lol well spotted and you were absolutely correct! lolol Mongols used curced swords not the Romans :D
pakjai 1 year ago
@ulongkoror It's a clip showing the huns/vandals etc invading the empire, if you would have paid atention you would have known why they put in it...
TriggerHappy838 1 year ago
@TriggerHappy838
and thats what i was saying,they ripped it from another documentary
ulongkoror 1 year ago
Tsar Caesar Kaiser. Don't they all mean the same?
And I was surprised to find out that Julius Caesar wasn't an Emperor, but a Dictator, and the term Caesar was taken up in honor of him.
And that a Dictator in the original sense was a temporary post in times of emergency, and not necessarily the occupation of a lunatic with a stupid moustache and an attitude problem.
And Caesar is also a dog food. For annoying little yappy ones.
Kelly14UK 1 year ago
oh well theres a time for everything..
the golden age of roman rule met and end...
and later the goths too met an end..
no use quarreling over who's best, they all have ups and downs
chalisblur 1 year ago
@chalisblur
Exactly. Thank you.
Jomsvikingar 1 year ago
@chalisblur I liked the Visigoths. I thought they looked dead cool, like they were into grunge. Not like those nancy boy Romans, always shaving everyday and massaging eachother.
Kelly14UK 1 year ago
Fucking cowards. How could the garrison abandon their post when the survival of Rome was at stake. They should have protected every inch of Rome and kill as many barbarian apes as possible.
FUCK THE GOTHS
Kingofsomething87 1 year ago
@Kingofsomething87
Fuck the Goths? Anyone tell you your an idiot? Fuck Romans that's what I say.
Jomsvikingar 1 year ago
@Jomsvikingar Go to hell you barbarian shit
Kingofsomething87 1 year ago
@Kingofsomething87
See you there Roman coward ^^
Jomsvikingar 1 year ago
@Jomsvikingar You ignorant barbarian. How are Romans cowards?? Have you forgotten what Julius Caesar did to your kind?
Kingofsomething87 1 year ago
@Kingofsomething87
Have you forgot the garbage he recorded down which any historian would tell you today is mostly crap?
Have you forgotten the glorious Battle of the Teutoburg Forest were the Romans lost 20,000, and the barbarians lost hardly more than 500? Or what about the glorious stands of Vercingetorix or Boudica that the Romans took so long to stamp out?
I respect the Romans, but it seems you can't respect the heritage of others, which only shows you to be immature.
Jomsvikingar 1 year ago
@Kingofsomething87
What makes this even stranger is that you are from Canada and thus probably don't even have any Roman heritage. "my kind" is probably "your kind" too, so put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Jomsvikingar 1 year ago
@Jomsvikingar First of all the reason we suffered heavy losses at Teutoburg, was mainly due to the treachary of that little shit Arminius. Rather than face us honourably in open battle, your people cowardly ambushed our men in the midst of a forest we knew little of. So i wouldnt exactly call Teutoburg glorious.
As for myself, my family is originaly from Wales, and we proudly trace our ancestry to the great Roman Ambrosius Aurelianus who defeated the barbarian saxons who invaded Britannia
Kingofsomething87 1 year ago
@Kingofsomething87 yes Julius Caesar was such a great man i love Roman hisrory a love everything about the roman empire julius caesar caligula nero augustus konstantine
IloveMJkingofpop 1 year ago
@IloveMJkingofpop yea julius caesar was great man , so great that he would massacre ur whole family if you happent o be gallic in the times he took gaul , so great man that he wouldve laughed at u begging for mercy , indeed great man. lol
absolumer 1 year ago
I love how the captain trys to keep his men in line: "Stand our ground and fight to the last man!" thier like fuck this happy horse shit I am out of here and run
outlawX357 1 year ago 4
The fall of Rome is quite simple... The Emperor forgot to pay Chuck Norris the rent one month... big mistake.
6SIX6Bloodshedded 1 year ago 6
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@6SIX6Bloodshedded Chuck Norris would get his arse kicked by the Romans.
heathey2 1 year ago
Ha ha ... the boy emperor looks like a romulan from star trek.
BizWiz2000 1 year ago 3
dem god damn roman duke boyz at it again
DarkHour404 1 year ago
Teh emprer has betrayed us again ='( </3
BroncoLion 1 year ago
@BroncoLion who cares XD,... there can be no peace... no peace with romans! THERE CAN BE ONLY WAR!
TheRugbyfullback 1 year ago
all critical moment 6 ancient rome the rise and fal of an empire's movies are great for tisha b'av
nebechhofer 1 year ago
The story with Goths and Romans was somewhat more complicated, as the Eastern Empire was largely involved. Actually, Alaric officially had a rank of ERE general when he came to Illyria in the very beginning of the 5th cent. And Stilicho has beaten Alaric twice before coming to an agreement.
And what does it mean "Hunns and Vandals"? Goths really escaped from invading Hunns (and it occured some decades earlier), but Vandals were no new tribe to Romans. Actually, Stilicho was a Vandal.
Artyom2012 1 year ago
Roman guard commander: We stand our ground and fight to the last man!
Guard 1: hell nah see you laterz.
Guards 2, 3, 4, and 5: Amen, brother!
Last guards: I', with him!
Guard commander: uh..well if ya'll running.. *looks around* Screw this im out, too.
danuisortiz 1 year ago 3
This is a great video for the story of the fall of rome. But to be honest the fall of rome was much more terrifying and disastrous then they show on here lol the barbarians were nothing nice they wrer animals i meen that in literal terms. They were nothing like the romans they destroyed art and culture which led to the dark ages.
drednigga 1 year ago
@drednigga
Aleric did humanity a great dis-service, but he is not totally to blame, we also have to take into consideration the weak emperors such as Honorius at the time, that and Roman assassinated their last great General Aetius ( Ultimus Romanorum)
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
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Epicsaursus 1 year ago
I have family in Ravenna, its a neat city. There is something awesome about walking over a street thats over 1000 year olds to go to an arcade to play Sega games with your cousin.
cassius969 2 years ago 35
@cassius969 play sega games??wow!! pal r u sure u are livin in the 21st century?
madscientistify 1 year ago
@cassius969 Good to see another person appreciating the truly fantastic history of Rome.
heathey2 8 months ago
Is Woos crazy?
Poor mindless soul.
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Woosunzzang21 3 years ago
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mrFakerBuster 2 years ago
umm repeat that in english please?
tyanth12 2 years ago 6
@mrFakerBuster lol what the fuck
dannyboy11490 2 years ago
cool mate
lennydale92 3 years ago