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  • great rng video's, if you ever make a new one for dppt you should use the coin flip method to check the seed, it makes it look soo much easier, especially for people that dont have ar, and anyways imo its just as fast, if not faster :) (well for the iv part that is)

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  • @bearsfan092drums I've also got a flashcard (ttdsi to be exact), how am i going to start my game when the timer hits zero if the game itself takes sometime to load as in buffering before it actually starts up?

  • Could you use Eontimer to get the delay you need?

  • @theglenny45 Yep. As a matter of fact, I recommend it. The button mash method was what we did way back in the day, and as you can see, this video was made more than two years ago.

  • Great Video, I've managed to pull it off a shiny jolly baton pass Gligar, my only ? is do the pokemon sprites in the daycare running around count as NPC's? Does it advance the frame if they move before you pick up your egg? I've hit my delay many times, only to find my frame was wrong.

  • @BuddermilkPwn3dU Technically those Pokemon don't, but if you've let them run around too long, chances are another NPC screwed you up.

  • @bearsfan092drums Thx, I was asking cuz the poke sprites move way faster than the NPCs.When spamming A to pick up the egg I never see the NPCs move, that little pokemon always manages to take a step or two b4 I pick it up. but Great Guide, Thanx for all ur videos. I'm a fan of bearsfan!

  • Omg, I did it! HAHAHA! I did it! Pika-Timer help me hit my time and delay. Even though I figured out everything myself past the "Adjacent Results", I still wouldn't have made it this far without these 2 videos bearsfan made. Thanks a lot! LIKED!

  • I don't understand what I'm supposed to do after the "Find adjacent results". I'm stuck at this part. When am I supposed to press my game? When am I supposed to hit continue? :(

  • @azulvenatus The finding adjacent results is there for when you attempt the seed and inevitably miss. That will allow you to see how far off you were. I don't know what you mean "press my game". You hit continue ASAP if you follow the method in this video.

  • @bearsfan092drums

    So, after I do the "Find adjacent results", set my time 1 minute before the target time, start my game and furiously press a, continue, and get my egg right away? One more question, does the roaming Buneary in Platinum affect the frame?

  • @azulvenatus Yep to the first part. Buneary does not affect the frame, but if you let it run around too much, chances are another NPC will screw you up.

  • @bearsfan092drums

    Alright, setting it 1 minute before the target time, and then hitting the game, and a mash up to continue, collect egg quickly will magically get me to the target delay? Sorry, for asking way too many questions! Haha, it's just that I'm so close to finishing my 1st Egg RNG. xD

  • @azulvenatus Ideally. The idea is that you can only mash A so fast, so when you mash it fast, you'll get the delay from your calibration.

  • I don't understand how to advance the frame. My current frame is 3 and I don't understand the adjacent results. Can you explain it to me?

  • @PokemonAndDBZ Adjacent results display what you would get if you barely missed frame, delay, time, or any other factor. As far as advancing the frame, view a page in the journal that has a caught or defeated Pokemon on it. If you don't have one, add one by doing the corresponding action.

  • I didn't RNG for my egg's ability and nature. I just slapped an everstone on one of my parents and SR'd for the right nature and ability. Does this make a difference?

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  • @PokemonAndDBZ If there is a caught/defeated Pokemon on the first page, the frame advances by 2

  • Hi, I bought an Action Replay just so I could check IVs easily but my code doesn't seem to work. Could you please send the one you use? Im using pokemon diamond.

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  • Thank you very much.

  • You wouldn't want to become my favorite user on YouTube and send me a clone of siberia's ditto, would you?

  • @zachthenarwhal Sorry, I'm nobody's favorite user. You can use Pokecheck (website, google it- first result) to download a flawless ditto.

  • Question: I did the calibration step,I found my target time, I received the desired egg, I found my save frame,but i get stuck at the generate adjacent results thing. What do you put into the boxes? When i try to continue my frame is way off. What did i do wrong? I flipped the pages right.Please help :(

  • @TheMrSkyress Usually the defaults work. You are collecting your egg ASAP, right?

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  • @bearsfan092drums Yep, I continously tap A until I get the egg. But ill keep trying. Ill provide a list of what i did so it will be easy to see what i did wrong.

    1.Calibration

    2.Found a spread that i wanted.

    3.Caught a pokemon and did the poketch taps and the coin flips

    4.Hatched my egg and everything was right.

    5.Figured out my save frame which was 6.

    6.changed my date and time to that of my desired spread- 1 minute.

    7.Booted up my ARdsi when emloop reached 0

    8. tapped A like crazy

  • 9.Reached the journal and flipped four times. My target frame was 14, minus my save frame, 6, divided by two, which is 4. Then i tap a furiously again and no luck. My delay wasnt close to the desired spread.

  • @TheMrSkyress as in tapped A until i got the egg

  • Question: If your saved frame is even like 4 and your target frame is odd like 15 what do you do?

  • @shinymamoswine Resave until you get an odd frame. I suppose you could try to let the NPC's advance your frame by one, but that's wildly inconsistent and difficult to do.

  • I also want to say to all those who doesn't understand, get confused or is a beginner; do it again, from the beginning. And then again. And again. And again. Because to learn new things takes time and I haven't found a guide that makes RNGing for IVs easy yet, if I ever success, I'll make one! ;>

  • I gotta say RNGing for IVs was harder than I thought. It took me three different guides to get it through and I still don't have succeeded. Simply, the Pokémon that hatch doesn't have the IVs I want. So I'm asking; do I have to have the exact second and the exact delay when I'm pressing "A" at continue? That's just way too hard...I don't really understand the use of an another clock either.

  • I have a question. You mention if your result is not on the 4th generation time finder "you did something wrong". Like what exactly? My frame is 15, my target frame is 23, my delay is 610. I set the adjacent results for 11 seconds (my average time), frame at 23, and min/max delay at 600/620. When I set my time and do the whole soft reset, plus doing my journal flips and find the IVs, my result is not mentioned in the list for adjacent results. Any idea why? I hope I didn't confuse you. Thanks!

  • @xtr3m7 No, not really. Generally the best way to tackle this problem is to see what seed you did hit and then working from there.

  • I have to ask, How many people actually got this? If they did, I beg them to make a video and try to make it as clear as possible, sound as clear as possible and showing step by step (without using Action Replay as well).

    It seems as if nobody actually gets this because there is only one video (this one) on youtube that shows how to breed perfect Ivs.

  • Is there any way to hit the right frame every time, or do you just have to do a lot of calibration to find the frame you hit the most?

    Also, I've tried to do a bit of frame calibration, but it takes so long! (I'm using 96 rare candies to find my IVs.) How many rare candies should you use to find your IVs during frame calibration?

  • @Azkea To your first question, the frame jumps around almost every time you save, so you have to check which one you're "saved" on. For this reason, a lot of people elect to do HGSS breeding, which is a lot more consistent with the starting frame.

    To your second question, just enough to be able to determine what frame/seed you did hit.

  • Do you have to save it infront of the Daycare man

    or can you collect your egg and just check the frame again?

    Greets

  • @benerwel Your question is a little vague. You don't have to save after you collect the egg, so you can recollect the same egg to check the frame. However, always save in front of the daycare man and mash A to prevent those NPC's from screwing you over.

  • @bearsfan092drums

    I meant, wont the ev change when you soft/hard-reset?

  • @bearsfan092drums

    I meant iv's*

  • @benerwel You're still a bit vague. You want to check the IV's of the egg to determine your frame, right?

  • @bearsfan092drums

    Nah, i'm a little bit vague indeed but ordered a AR so its gonna be alright:P

  • Do you have to save it infront of the Daycare man

    or can you collect your egg and just check the frame again?

    Greets

  • Hey. I have a problem in understanding the generating of adjacent results. Can you help me out?

  • @bearsfan092drums: I don't get it at this part, 5:25. Can u explain it please? ^^

  • Can anyone tell me how to get my hand's on this, "Japanese flawless ditto"? I really want to try the masuda method out. :(

    And RNGing too. If anyone can get me one, I'd seriously do anything. (Lmao)

  • Hey.. does that Pokemon (the rabbit one that is within the border of the day care) count as an NPC? Whenever I'm trying to find my saved-on frame, it moves one step before I can't talk to the daycare guy. And even though it only moves one every time, it's a different frame. And the IV spreads of the bred Pokemon are always like, the first 3 are on frame 2, and the last 3 are on frame 5 ._. and it's ALWAYS like that. Any clues?

  • i did everything right but im stuck at the changing time/date.

    my target time is 2:00:14

    this makes my synchronize time 1:59:00

    and my reset time 2:00:00

    now if i sync my clock with another, i have to wait till the next minute starts (2:00:00) and reset at that point; which i can't cus the DS only turns off. I gotta turn on the ds again to hit my TARGET TIME (2:00:14) but that's impossible cus turning off/on the ds takes up too much time. can you please help? or tell me what im doing wrong?

  • woow you made this look really simple!

    i'll be back later (most likely) to ask some questions haha. thx for clarifying things though

  • Can an NPC lower the frame?

  • @MrPetemike If the cowgirls move, you screw the frame up by raising it. That's why you have to talk to the man before they move, because the longer you idle in the game, the more your frames increase.

  • When looking to see if none of the NPC's are moving does Buneary count as one? Because it is constantly moving...It doesn't stop moving?

  • I give up.

  • I'm a bit of a casual fan, but I'd really like some decent monsters. I kind of just want to jump in there and do this, but is it nessecary to worry about the parents IVs, or would I just be able to start with whatever and get on with it?

    If it's the former, would I be better off asking around for a decent Ditto?

  • Hello bearsfan092, I really need some help here.. I'm now at the step at 5:11.. I'm having trouble with the next few steps.. I dont quite understand the steps and i'm having trouble doing it..

  • @ryankam2 The only thing I get out of this is that you're having trouble verifying frame. What you do is load the game, collect the egg ASAP, check your seed, and check where your egg IV's are in the list generated, which will tell you your frame. I can't help anymore because I have no information on your situation.

  • omg this is givin me headache >.<

  • soooo your saying that after this, if you did all this stuff right, your baby pokemon will have perfect iv's?

  • Wow. After all this time you still have this video up and respond to people's problems. I am glad you have kept this video active though. I had taken a break from pokemon for several months and recently coming back into it I wanted to pick up where I left off. That meant relearning the RNG process. I would like to say your video is the easiest to follow and very helpful. (Although, I find it easiest to use the Shiny Finder then continue with the above video. For finding shinies with Good IV's)

  • @VaxtinTheWolf

    But then again, I am sure you already knew that. Good stuff though

  • I'm Pretty sure my frame was right, and I know the Iv's of the parents, could it have been a faulty spread?

  • @MrPetemike Doesn't work like that. You messed up somehow. There is no random, and there are no rng glitches as far as we are aware of. If you hit your frame and seed, you will get the same result always.

  • When Checking the IV's Of Your Egg to Find your frame... Make Sure That you Select (DPPT Breeding) from the drop down menu, he forgets to tell you...

  • I hit my delay and verified with the coin flips, but the Iv's were not correct, what could have gone wrong?  I have gotten flawless pokemon before

  • @MrPetemike Got your frame wrong.

  • should you have a parent with flawless iv's for this to work correctly? or at least the iv's you need? Can you get flawless iv's without a parent with the proper iv's? and also what is the seed found in the beginning egg ivs part 1? the seed found by using the time finder.

  • @eyelewz For your last question, give me a specific time in the video. You don't need a flawless parent. If you're really good with planning, you can pick a spread that supplies 31's and then takes the good IV"s from your parents, giving you a flawless product. You WILL need at least one (most often three) good IV's.

  • If the page journal with a caught pokemon or w/e, I still don't count that as 1 flip?

  • @darkaznblo0d Grammatically incoherent.

  • @bearsfan092drums Im sorry, I meant if the page journal starts with a caught pokemon. Like when I log into the game. It doesn't count as a flip right?

  • @darkaznblo0d It DOES count as a flip.

  • @bearsfan092drums Oh ok, guess I'll have to try again.

  • No matter how many times I flip my journal, it always says that my frame is constantly at 4. That might be OK, but I can still never find the right IV's for my egg. I'm looking for 30+ / B (or 29+) / 30+ / i don't care / 29 + / A (or 26+) IV's. Can someone give me a time for that for frame 4 and 4 alone or tell me why my frame never moves from 4, no matter how many times I flip the journal?

  • @nettripp And also whenever I find one for frame 4 and I try it, I find my frame is then at 3. Then I find one for 3, and somehow my frame changes to 2. I don't know what to do. Someone please help.

  • @nettripp The classic NPC problem. Press A faster after loading or else resave for a stabler frame.

  • i dont really get how to hit a certain delay in order to successfully get a shiny with preffered ivs...can someone please tell me how to do it?

  • @PinoyJbwkzFan You should have calibrated so you know your ideal delay. For higher delays, you can use PikaTimer.

  • @bearsfan092drums well i do kno my delays and seconds from calibration...what i dont get is how are you supposed to choose one for the time finder and hit it exactly when going in game

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  • This all seems really complicated, is it a lot simpler than it looks?

  • @YodatheJedi12 Just take it step by step. It's only daunting the first time you do it.

  • if my frame was 4, and then i saved 3 times, what is it now? How much does saving change your sve frame? is there I chance im in like...frame 5000?!

  • @MummyFish1012 No, you are not on frame 5000, but I can't tell you where you are. It's random, but usually frames 1-11.

  • I'm kinda confused about one thing in the RNG article. It says something about counting each flip to a journal page that mentions something about a caught/defeated pokemon as an advancement of 2 in the frame, but does that mean a flip toward or away from that page? Perhaps both count?

    I ask because the first page I flip to does not mention anything about caught/defeated pokemon and I don't know how to count it, if at all.

  • @baboon1010101 Only a flip to or if the game happens to open the journal to a page wth a caught/defeated pokemon. Do not count that first page in the circumstance you mentioned.

  • the egg produced was female but I want male. do i have to redo the poketeck apps and then get the male gender i want?

  • @MummyFish1012 Check the gender ratio fields.

  • When I use the RNG reporter to generate IV spreads so that I can check what frame I'm on, I get a huge number of results. That makes it really difficult to locate the correct IV spread for the egg. Should that be happening?

  • i think wondercard is harder to do

  • does it work whihout AR ? but i dont havec an AR ?

  • @astrocomete Works fine without AR, but you'll need a way to check IV's once you get towards your final egg.

  • @bearsfan092drums ok thank for this reply so i dont understand about page flip ,for page flip you need to substract each frame (target frame -monster frame -starting frame) divided by 2 ,so how do that if the final frame before you divide by 2 is a odd number ,for example 15?

  • @astrocomete I'm guilty of not mentioning this. You can take 128 steps in a quiet zone (no moving NPC's nearby, no wild pokemon areas like grass or caves) and the RNG will advance its frame equal to the amount of pokemon in your party. Carry 1, 3, or 5 Pokemon to advance by that many frames. Should make sense from there.

  • @bearsfan092drums thank you so much for this reply , thanks to you I get a almost flowless gyarados adamant 31/30/31/13/31/30 , i want to have a shiny full iv by this method but frames i get are so tremandous , I have seen a another of your vids about RNG hg and ss shiny and iv eggs ,does this method are easier than it ? or not

  • So umm, I got EVERYTHING down. But when I got my egg. According to the website. I do the coin flip to verify if it's the right egg. Apparently it was. But when I hatched it. And checked it's IV's. It's not. What did I do wrong?

  • @darkaznblo0d Frame probably advanced. Did you take the egg ASAP and then do coin flips? If you didn't do that in that order, the NPC's will have screwed you over. Check what frame your IV's correspond to.

  • @bearsfan092drums I did the flips with the pages. Then mashed A to get my egg. The only NPC I always see moving is that stupid bunery. After I get my egg, then I do the coin flips.

  • how did you get 20 as the target frame? and 4 came from the program where it had originally predicted your togekiss' spread correct?

  • @MummyFish1012 20 is just an arbitrary number. The 4 did come from RNGreporter, so yes, correct.

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  • Thanks! This actualy worked for me a while back.

    You made it so much simpler compared to smogans document.

    I finaly have my shiny sceptile with flawless stats ^^ on my second go too =D

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  • Hi, mmm i have a question does your frame changes everytime you breed a new egg?, my frame always appears as 4 so that means that 4 will always appear everytime i get another egg?

  • @zerohorus Nope. Changes every time you save.

  • My frame has changed three times in a row after hard resetting. My egg always has the same nature and special ability though, so i got that part to work.

  • @SuperAqueos Press A faster or else make a new save point.

  • @brunswick001 Find a way to check IV's that doesn't involve wifi.

  • Do NPCs moving after you get the egg affect the frame?

  • @L33tGir No

  • I seriously can't figure it out. I just can't figure out why i keep being saved on the 5th frame. I don't know how to change it either.

  • @thn10606

    Just keep resaving it or find a target on 7,9,11,13, etc.

  • @ yugemonz

    Each journal flip changes the frame by 2.

    It's your target frame - your current frame divided by 2.

  • Man I'm kind of confused. You are like skipping steps and I'm not sure if I'm doing it right. Why is your frame rate set to 20? Is it because you wanted 20? What is the delay time exactly? I tried this SEVERAL times to no avail. One site says "Caught Pokemon" counts for 2 while you say counts for 1 and... X___x

  • @yugemonz When someone watches these videos, I assume they've read the directions. These are visual aids rather than full fledged guides.

    1. A frame of 20 is an arbitrary number. I could have picked 69 if I wanted to.

    2. If you don't know what delay is, I can't help you.

    3. It's frame advancement by 2 for every caught. I never said 1.

  • is there any way to check the IV of your egg accurately without rare candies or AR?

  • Can that Buneary in the Day care move before I talk to the old man? I can't press A fast enough to stop him.

  • Okay so after a month hiatus, i tried to redo this, and I still seem to be saved on frame 5, just like the last time. How would i go about changing this?

  • Is there a way to do this in HG/SS? Because I don't have happiness checker and coin flip app neither the diary. What can I do to replace them. I heard something about Elm calls but I'm kinda confused. Also I don't understand the inside of the process so I don't know if checking IVs with an IV battle messes up the process, because you have to save before it. Thanks for your help in advance.

  • @Sputtid

    Give me two weeks and a HGSS legend/regular wild pokemon abuse video will be up. At some point after that there will be the guide for eggs

  • @bearsfan092drums Thanks for the fast response. I'm looking forward to your guide.

  • omg is ur ds thingy pink???? LOL mines not even pink its black

  • Okay, i rng'd for an adamant ralts. i followed some instructions but got stuck on how many times i flip the journal

    my target frame is 2, but my current frame is 18? (i tested this out about 3-4 time)

    then i click on time finder and got a long list of perfect iv's, i right-clicked on the one that said "31/31/A/4/A/A" and selected "Generate Adjacent Results".

    whenever i soft reset, i know that i have to reset the time, but after i get into the game, i don't know what to do to the journal, help

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  • wait, never mind. I think I understand what he's saying.

    Be sure to set the drop down menu to "Breeding (D/P/Pt)" rather than "DPPt Egg PID" you were using earlier.

  • @Jok3R2021 Precisely. They give two very different bits of information.

  • @bearsfan092drums @lamonta85 Be sure that you are entering the IVs in this order: HP, Attack, Defense, SPEED, Sp. Atk, Sp. Def.

  • @Jok3R2021 False. RNG reporter works in order of HP/Atk/Def/SpA/Spdef/Speed. Says so in the fields where you enter info.

  • @bearsfan092drums perhaps i wasn't clear. When using the IV checker on the AR, it reports the IVs in the order I listed, not the order used in the Reporter.

  • 5:56, my egg IV's are never on there, but my selected spreds are, is that wrong?

  • Does that annoying running pacirisu in the daycare count as a NPC?

  • @TheMonkeyBlu I mean the brown buneary thingy, the one running in and out of the tent.

  • @TheMonkeyBlu

    Yes it does. This threw me off a little bit doing my Abuse, but I finally got it. I was saved on a frame of 3, trying to get to a frame of 9, and the little faggot kept bumping me up to a frame of 13. I finally adjusted my journal flips enough that I could take his steps into account, too.

    For me, at least, each of his steps advanced the frame by 2. I didn't seem to have any issues with this when I abused for a flawless Gible, but I did when I was hatching Togepi.

  • @hutson15 Thanks. Is it even possible to collect the egg before he moves?

  • @TheMonkeyBlu I don't think so man. I got it to where he only takes a step (+2 frames), but that's the best I got.

  • grrrr.. It's so hard hitting the delay I always hit a diffrent delay on the list :/.

    You are so lucky to get it on 1 turn lawl

  • So you basically have to be able to check IV's? because I dont have an action replay. :( For instance the part where typed in the Togepi's IV's after you saved in the begging of the vid to see what frame you are on. I wouldnt be able to check by stats because any hatched pokemon is only lv1. Is there way around this? BTW Im a hardcore bears fan too and I play the drums, HELLO! lol

  • @orion233 Get a bunch of rare candies or else raise the pokemon normally and track the EV's you get. You must be able to check IV's.

  • @bearsfan092drums

    getting rare candies from battle tower would take forever I'd imagine.

  • @bearsfan092drums

    Ok but what Im saying is, instead of you catching the ponyta to see what frame you are on. Couldn't you fly to resort are and catch a lv 50 magikarp and check its IV's on the metlakids calc because its level 50?

  • @bearsfan092drums Umm, can't you just catch the pokemon at high level (50+) and then enter the stats into the appropriate tab? or is this somehow different?

  • What is your usual time in seconds when hard-reseting using the AR?

  • when i catch a wild pokemon and input the IVs. and the i go to generate i dont IV spreads

  • @lamonta85 What?

  • When I check my frame, I sometimes have 4, sometimes have 2. Could this be the reason as to why it never works when I try to abuse my egg's IVs?

  • @RoZzou It means an NPC is moving on that particular save. Resave and find your frame again.

  • I have the same calculator :x [/randomcomment]

  • when i reset to find out my current frame do i have to reset at 0 of the next minute? Because i keep getting multiple initial seeds

  • So... what would you do if your current frame is not in a multiple of 2? An odd number essentially. My target frame is 8 and my current frame is 5.

  • I don't understand the why i'm not reaching the step you are at around 3:20. I believe its the find what frame you're saved on. I've caught the wild pokemon over level 50 and put it in the "find initial seed by stats" tab and clicked find, then ok. It goes back to the main screen and i clear the nature and then click generate. The difference is, while you are getting IV results, I am not. Is there a special tab that i'm supposed to click or i am just doing it wrong? I have version 7.30 btw.

  • @thn10606 Make sure you changed the dropdown menu to Breeding DPPt and make sure that no abilities, natures, or any other search criteria are enabled.

  • @bearsfan092drums Oh dear, i got it now. Thanks. And thank you for the quick reply! Now lets try this again...

  • When you check the egg near the end of the video for its IV's, how do you get the AR code to work? Shouldn't it have been deactivated when you soft reset the game?

  • @KingOfAttics I hard reset when using AR

  • hi, i read mingots guide. do you really need to set the date 2 days after your current date before collecting the egg to check its ivs found in the frame?

  • Just wondering, I don't have access to AR, so can I check the baby's IVs via IV battle or not

  • im having problems with that pachurisu :(

    hes always moving xd

    (i assume hes a NPC, because he has no pattern or such?)

    otherwise, very nice video ! thx a lot !:)

  • @magord1 Just try to take the egg ASAP and try to keep him from interfering. It's the only thing you can do.

  • @bearsfan092drums ive been practicing with a random ratatta :p but with the ratatta, it worked on the 1st time :o flawless ratatta lol ..

    now trying it again with my shiny adamant dratini :) thx for you vid and response !

  • @bearsfan092drums lol i needed to advance the frame with 4, so i flipped the journal once (+2 frames) then i logged in the game and waited till an npc turned and moved 1 spot, then i got my egg ..

    and it was the correct one :) flawless shiny adamant dratini :)

  • Argh this is frustrating my current frame is 3 and my target frame is 7. 7 - 3 = 4 , 4 /2 = 2 journal pages flipped only counting pages with defeated / captured pokemon. Yet I'm always under my target frame by 1. I dont understand where im going wrong...

  • Do the pokemon in the pokemon daycare count?

  • How do you get your seconds so low? All of my seconds are 40+

  • @ArSYniiC If you did calibration properly and reset at :00 of a clock that is perfectly synchronized to your DS, I can see very little reason why your seconds should go over 20. You probably calibrated in some incorrect way or you have a flashcart that takes forever to load.

  • @bearsfan092drums I forgot to reset @ :00 and I have a retail game. After I started reseting @ :00 i started to get a steady 16 seconds per reset :]

  • Like I asked before. Where did you get you max Frame of 22??? In the DPPT Time finder.

  • @Deathofblades

    Just an arbitrary number. Pick whatever you would like as a max.