I am about to move from Florida to a snowy part in the south of Germany. I have never driven in snow before. I am being offered by a German used car dealer either a BMW 316i with DSC (rear wheel drive) or an Audi A3 (front wheel drive) without DSC but with the advantage of a front wheel drive platform. Which is more useful for a driver with no snow or ice experience?
isnt this all the Electronic Stability Control for all the companies, but everyone has different names for sake of having company's own name thing? I just got a CR-V and while I was car shopping, everyone pretty much had different acronyms :/
@tml240 Yeah, all companies have their own version of pretty much everything and for the reason you listed, give it their own name/acronym. For example, a lot of cars today offer a manumatic transmission, and they've all named it something unique such as tiptronic, sporttronic, touchshift, geartronic, etc. However, while these features may serve the same purpose despite their differing names, that does not mean they are the exact same or perform equally well. Some are better than others.
@TopGearTheBest DSC=dynamic stability control, ASC+T= all season control or just plain old traction control. Earlier E46 3 series came with ASC+T, then BMW started offering DSC in later years
This looks very familiar with Mercedes 4-MATIC system. It detects and applies breaks on the oposing side. I think the best stability system would have to be Acuras Super handling All wheel drive (SH-AWD). It uses twin clutches to instead of break the opposite. It ads power to the electronically selected wheel preventing understear. Ether way though these safety features I think will soon be one day implemented into all different types of vehicles.
@EpiDemic117 I think you are confusing stability control with all wheel drive. 4-MATIC is Mercedes AWD system, and SH-AWD is Acura's. They add or exchange power between wheels. (they have their own differences btwn. makes)
AWD systems do not brake the wheels, that is where the stability control systems come in. (VSA, ESP, DSC, etc.) They brake and/or remove power from individual wheels to help stabilize the car.
stability control ="slows wheels" and all-wheel-drive = "goes wheels"
The irony off all this is while cars are becoming more safer, drivers on the other hand are becoming less aware on the road and more dependent on the cars safety features to do the work for them.
No...All season are the biggest compromise on safe dirving. Get summer tires and get Winter Tires.. and if you do not have a lot of snow get a Nokian All season/winter tire.
Agreed, DSC is amazing, and also agreed that it's definitely saved a hell of a lot of people - especially in the wet. Most people do not know how to handle a rear wheel drive car when the back-end slides out quickly, and I would say this is when DSC is most valuable. Understeer is a lot easier to fix. You just come off the throttle.
Stability control is easier, my piece of shit doesn't have that, traction control, and just an ordinary differential, people I know are impressed I haven't gotten into an accident yet.
It Saved my girlfriend. She hit a slick spot on the road while merging onto the interstate when it was drizzling. She said she felt the car zig like a fish (her words). I told her that it probably just saved her from a serious accident.
Thanks for the upload
Luibimer 1 week ago
I am about to move from Florida to a snowy part in the south of Germany. I have never driven in snow before. I am being offered by a German used car dealer either a BMW 316i with DSC (rear wheel drive) or an Audi A3 (front wheel drive) without DSC but with the advantage of a front wheel drive platform. Which is more useful for a driver with no snow or ice experience?
jkibler1112 4 weeks ago
@jkibler1112 IMHO Go with the front wheel drive ...and practice counter steering in a safe parking lot environment to get the feel of the vehicle.
The FWD has much better traction.
HERBPLASTER 20 hours ago
if i have a RWD with this DSC will it make a HUGE difference?
TheGarvito 7 months ago
BMW Dynamic Stability control, by applying pressure to the wheel that is spinning, we have taken the fun out of driving.
Transane 10 months ago
@Transane no it isnt, its fun to drift and have control
MrKouwearie 5 months ago
I found some great piece of literature on this tech..it just sorta drills the concept into you....
Found it at MyCarMyChoice (dot) com under tech funda... titled: On how rollover stability control system works
...You must check it out
And tell me about techy things you know of...
RoadNeki 11 months ago
Sweet stuff :)
Jakub48 1 year ago
isnt this all the Electronic Stability Control for all the companies, but everyone has different names for sake of having company's own name thing? I just got a CR-V and while I was car shopping, everyone pretty much had different acronyms :/
tml240 1 year ago
@tml240 Yeah, all companies have their own version of pretty much everything and for the reason you listed, give it their own name/acronym. For example, a lot of cars today offer a manumatic transmission, and they've all named it something unique such as tiptronic, sporttronic, touchshift, geartronic, etc. However, while these features may serve the same purpose despite their differing names, that does not mean they are the exact same or perform equally well. Some are better than others.
timorbit 1 year ago
With the DSC off, (ligth on) does it accelerate faster???
55CeRKez 1 year ago
@55CeRKez yes!
DovlaMr 1 year ago
whats the difference between DSC and ASC+T on a E46
TopGearTheBest 1 year ago
@TopGearTheBest DSC=dynamic stability control, ASC+T= all season control or just plain old traction control. Earlier E46 3 series came with ASC+T, then BMW started offering DSC in later years
inurik 1 year ago
it looks so smooth and he really throws it in both directions, impressive i think
p35neo2 2 years ago
can't drift with DSC on huh?
t5e2 2 years ago
@t5e2 Yes you can, lol, only at much higher speeds!
MrKouwearie 5 months ago
This looks very familiar with Mercedes 4-MATIC system. It detects and applies breaks on the oposing side. I think the best stability system would have to be Acuras Super handling All wheel drive (SH-AWD). It uses twin clutches to instead of break the opposite. It ads power to the electronically selected wheel preventing understear. Ether way though these safety features I think will soon be one day implemented into all different types of vehicles.
EpiDemic117 2 years ago 2
@EpiDemic117 I think you are confusing stability control with all wheel drive. 4-MATIC is Mercedes AWD system, and SH-AWD is Acura's. They add or exchange power between wheels. (they have their own differences btwn. makes)
AWD systems do not brake the wheels, that is where the stability control systems come in. (VSA, ESP, DSC, etc.) They brake and/or remove power from individual wheels to help stabilize the car.
stability control ="slows wheels" and all-wheel-drive = "goes wheels"
andrew11391 1 year ago 3
dsc is diffrentsystem with esd.
xstockholmx 2 years ago
DSC is great around corners but when it pack up which it does that is 1800 pounds bill for you so think carefully before buying any bmw.
joeregan8 2 years ago
The irony off all this is while cars are becoming more safer, drivers on the other hand are becoming less aware on the road and more dependent on the cars safety features to do the work for them.
SteelCity1981 2 years ago 2
That's why I keep a 42 year old VW beetle as a backup car. No safety there. Keeps you sharp
mechmitch69 2 years ago
No...All season are the biggest compromise on safe dirving. Get summer tires and get Winter Tires.. and if you do not have a lot of snow get a Nokian All season/winter tire.
8motion 3 years ago
holy shit if i tried to turn like that in my car i'd be going sideways.
yanzodadon 3 years ago
when the yellow light is on an flashing thats when its on an working ?
Restarea11019V 3 years ago
It will be visible when it's on. 0:54
lukeatluka 3 years ago
Yeah..when its flashin it means that system is working and helping you.
Centiamo 3 years ago
hahaha ESP = DSG just that BMW call it other way
adytza4u 3 years ago
I just LOVE BMW
Enisana 3 years ago 2
me too, I love that new X6 cuz i'm not a family man
Restarea11019V 3 years ago
can't drift on that ride!! lol
oil4121 3 years ago
that's the point...(but if u do want to drift, then just turn it off)
Gernsback 3 years ago
Agreed, DSC is amazing, and also agreed that it's definitely saved a hell of a lot of people - especially in the wet. Most people do not know how to handle a rear wheel drive car when the back-end slides out quickly, and I would say this is when DSC is most valuable. Understeer is a lot easier to fix. You just come off the throttle.
peaps 3 years ago 2
understeer.. off the throttle? i go more on the throttle to bring the rear around, while straightening the wheel up a tad. Drift on
tepailocals 3 years ago
Stability control is easier, my piece of shit doesn't have that, traction control, and just an ordinary differential, people I know are impressed I haven't gotten into an accident yet.
quuaa1 3 years ago
great
bbikhodi 3 years ago
It Saved my girlfriend. She hit a slick spot on the road while merging onto the interstate when it was drizzling. She said she felt the car zig like a fish (her words). I told her that it probably just saved her from a serious accident.
rhoc88 3 years ago
Get All Season's they're amazing for handling rain, I've never felt the tires break loose in rain yet.
quuaa1 3 years ago
what car and what year is it, cuz i have a 04 330xi just need to know will it save my girls crappy driving
Restarea11019V 3 years ago
AWESOME, i can't live without DSC.. lol
HossamSays 3 years ago
Amazing!
m7moudmido 3 years ago
It's a PID, look up balancing robot or Segway.
tsport100 4 years ago
DSC, a masterpiece of engineering
yvpan1 4 years ago