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  • When it comes to getting into residency in the states the breakdown goes like this:

    US M.D.s, D.O.s that have taken USMLE, D.O.s, Carribean M.D.s, International M.D.s.

    US MDs have the advantage by a wide margin and then D.O.s have an advantage over Carribean MDs.

  • Personally being a DO has many advantages over our MD counterparts. Especially in providing a broad range of care. As a DO, I graduated and recieved my first choice residency, I just finished my fellowship and now am going on to do a subfellowship. I have passed my boards on every step and am board certified. Over my years i have met many grads from Ross and other Island schools and a large proportion of them, even though they have an MD behind their name, cannot pass any of their boards. go DO

  • @rtumber I am very glad that the DO route has gone well for you. Maybe some people might consider these differences into their final decision. In regards with MD/DO, I think that we should be happy that we are improving no matter what route, our careers, and that it isnt a competition of whos better than who. Lastly, I am saddenned that there are "grads from Ross" who cant pass their boards. It tells me personally that these people are going through hard times and have a debt to worry about.

  • @rtumber That is definitely not good for the amount of money that Ross University is charging for them to have a large amount of students, who can not pass the boards. After all those four years of financial sacrifice, how are they suppose to live, and feel proud about his/her accomplishments? That is just insane, that say alot about the currriculum at Ross University.

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  • Killy, this is a med school. you should ask someone from the vet school.

  • What does D.O mean? I'm British we dot know these crazy us things you guys say

  • @jonny240494 D.O. means Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine.

  • Why didn't you guys Apply D.O.? Are you really concerned with having the "M.D." after your name??????

  • @utahgs I always wanted to be a doctor. Its been such a long and hard journey to not have that MD diploma on my wall. On top of that, it is always better careerwise to have the MD.  With the MD and depending on the branch, you can grow in medicine further, and specialize in ways that DOs cant.

  • @matc8298

    That's not true. I know of many D.O.'s who got into excellent residencies such as OB/GYN and Radiology. The obsession over MD is baffling and Ross is not a better option that D.O. schools.

  • @matc8298 Sorry, but you are dead wrong. DO's can specialize in everything and anything that an MD can. They are essentially equivalent in that respect. You seem to be very misinformed and clearly have no knowledge of the DO route.

  • Well, I'm only a week away but this still helps! Thanks!

  • @caeseroct0 ... Good luck caeser. Those first two years will fly. Try to explore the island your first semester, and go to Boiling Lake!

  • I hope I will be able to get 29 others to play rugby while I am there. May have to recruit the native pop, heheh.

  • Well, good luck with that! 29 players.... rounding them up.... sounds like a challenge!

  • Looks like I should be good to go. I am finding Ross vs Windsor matches on youtbue.

  • My gf went to your school back in say 96? She told me plenty about it. Shes now a resident in Albany, GA. Were headed on a cruise next month and possibly stopping in Dominica on the cruise so of course she said we have to go see her school. Oh well Keep working the students hard and producing top notch doctors!

  • Good for her! As of a year ago, I believe that they've added a few new buildings, including commercial ones on the main boulevard.  Tell her that I wish lots of luck in her career and life (from a fellow student, myself in my 3rd year).

  • @matc8298 I screwed up and said 96 by accident, it was 06! I guess I just typed way to fast! lol Well she is getting to finally come out and visit for a short vacation this weekend and ill let her know. Enjoy the heat, were having Snow in Ga and Fl here! We may be stopping by there next month if our cruise stops there, take care

  • Hi im a senior in High school and i was goin to get my A.S in Biological science and transfer to a University then try and go to Ross med school,my concern is the Finances will finacial aid cover my 2 years there? and can i take out loans from the US and stillbe used in the Carribean at Ross?

  • for the definite answer, you should contact Ross. As far as finances are concerned, as long as you are accepted to the school, you will have financial aid and also eligible for both private and federal loans. So yes to answer your Q. Ask if your degree covers the prerequisites that Ross asks for. I got a bachelors in biology/premed. Good luck, man, and try to learn as much as you can in the next few years (biology, BIOCHEM, anatomy, PHYSICS, embryology, histology, MICROBIOLOGY).

  • @matc8298 hi, i am a first year student at the university of british columbia. is it necessary for me to get a degree ( i.e bachelor of science) before i apply, or is it possible ( as ive heard) to apply after 2 years of university education. thank you verrryyyyy much for anyy help!!!

  • I dont think that you need a degree. Their requirements are in their website, I believe. You should ask them specific questions. I dont stay up to date on their requirements. I got in 3 years ago, and had a degree. As long as you meet your requirements you are eligible for admission. If not, then they have a program (merp) that prepares you for school. I have seen students that take the program to be comfortable and familiar with the school, but it depends on your level of preparedness.

  • also, congratulations your HS graduating! and also for aiming high in your career, I wish you lots of luck, dont give up!

  • hello, i am going to apply to Ross for the 2010 September. i am from Puerto Rico and will be having a private tour with Ross to fly down to Dominica in December. any suggestions that i can get from any Ross students? any comments about the residencies in the us?

  • As far as I know, what matters the most as far as residencies are concerned are your step one scores. prepare well right from day one, once you get to school for the step, and you will be just as competitive as any us med school student for the residencies. hope this helps.

  • hi, I was just wondering if you know anyone who went through the MERP program and who have been successfull on the island?? thanks.

  • i have met many MERP students that do well once in the school, but then again, I dont know if I have also met studetns that failed and went to MERP. The few i've met look well prepared. Try to find someone who is in the school and has gone through merp, though. I dont know any statistics as to how many pass and fail once in the school. Also, if you already have a good science background, then you should apply straight to the school.

  • Thank you for you comments matc8298, Would you recommend Ross over St. George?

  • I would like to help you answer that question, but I dont know anything about St George. The best thing I can do is tell you about my experience at Ross. You have to find someone that goes to St George to tell you about there. The only consistent thing I hear is that Ross is the most organized (for caribbean school standards), and structured from the caribbean schools. hope this helps.

  • Ques. about Ross U. Hello

    I watched your Ross U. tour video. You left a comment saying that Ross is "taking advantage of their students". Reading that made my heart drop. Despite studying harder, did you hear of any other international schools (preferably in the Caribbean) that helps their struggling students? Any ways of beating their money making scheme? ie: study groups,etc.

  • Ross is the best school in the caribbean, from hearsay.

    If you are struggling, you are on your own. Everyone goes through the same process, so it is not "discriminatory" per say. It just gets tough.

    Despite my comments, I would still go to Ross. It is my best option to get an MD.

    The school has no strong system to help its sruggling students and will not care if you fail, even if you are 2 years into the program.

    Your heart should not drop. Just be aware of this risk.

  • STFU you fag

  • (I may be a little bit off with the actual numbers, but they are about that range;).

    Good luck, and I am here if you have any other quesions.

  • I am grateful that I have had the chance to continue with my studies at the professional level to Ross.

    But they are taking advantage of their students. They need to change. I really dont like Ross because it is not an educational institution that protects its struggling students, only for that reason.

    Some people may say that either you got what it takes or not. I believe that those people are selfish. The school needs a strong retention program and not cash out on struggling students

  • One more thing..

    I have seen struggling peers survive and make it through.

    But, I have also seen struggling peers that work hard and dont make it.

    I dont know what to make of that.

    I have passed now, the first two years. But I repeated a semester. Everything becomes much harder if you repeat a semester because you become pointed out amongst your peers as a "repeat" student. The pressure is overwhelming.

    Im not trying to scare you, but it is a reality that you should be aware of

  • I wanted to say again strongly that this is a fact and a big risk. Though they may have a faculty that I believe is really good, and worth their pay check, these guys at Ross take advantage of struggling students. They will make a profit, if you happen to be struggling and suffering in school.

    On the other hand, if you are a dedicated student that is lucky enough not to have problems either personal or academic, then you will do fine.

    Its a trade-off on continuing with your goals.

  • I would have to say that out of 350 people that originally started out ... mmhh its hard to say, but perhaps less than 200... maybe 170ish make it out with their original class. so about half the students may either leave or repeat at least a semester.

  • You are absolutely correct. Both statements are true. This is perhaps the biggest risk into coming to Ross. They are a business after all, and the school pollitics and economics favor them.

    They have as of yet not implemented a retention program for students that may be in 4th semester that may be struggling. They do not have appropriate tutor staff. They have an unfair, in my opinion, system that if you happen to be unfortunate enough to fail a class, you will repeat a semester.

  • My grades are not very good (2.9 overall, 2.4 sciences) although my MCAT is decent (29). I have plenty of volunteering, research and leadership. Based on that, what do you think are my chances of getting in?

    Also, is it possible to get competitive American residencies after graduating from Ross?

    Thanks!

  • I think that you do. As far as I know, what makes you competitive in Residencies is your STEP 1 score... that seems to be the more important thing of all... even more so than GPA throughout med school.

    meaning... if you come to school, and really bust your butt, and truly learn, then get a good score on the STEP, then you are just as competitive as anyone else.

    good luck, and I hope that you get to advance your career.

  • I plan on attending ross in the next few years or so ( currently an undergrad ) . I'm really curious as to what you think of the island, or better asked , what you first thought when you got there, of the climate and the locals and the living conditions in general ?

  • Hello, sorry for the late reply. Once you enter school at Ross, your life becomes school at the island, and everything else, eventually doesnt matter.

    The island is pretty, but very undeveloped, but not to worry, new businesses are sprouting around the school as we speak.

    One more thing, the climate is great, for me... it never gets cold, and once every two days it rains... but it is a refreshing rain, because it gets sunny the next day.

  • Living conditions are good enough. Also, the people are nice, but it all depends on your own cultural sensitivity, how you interact with the local people. But in the end, it all comes down to studying and making your life for the first two years... school.

    hope this helps! and good luck.

  • i heard they do not like canadians and fail them

  • thats not true. but the school is too pushy and fails just about anyone who is not prepared to focus and study be it in first or fourth semester. The school gives you just about the right amount of time to prepare for the exams and if you just didn't use up the time for anything else but studying, you will fail and your scores will reflect that.

  • how hard is the actual program? how much money does the whole thing cost (the whole degree)? do you choose where to do residency?

  • go to their website for specific costs.  i do believe that each semester is about 14000 dlls (each semester is 3 months).

    As the program goes. It is challenging, but it comes down to your will and desire to go through it. The difficulty also depends on your background. What classes did you take/what is your major? And also it depends on your social life (married ? kids?)

    However,even those with more complicated personal lives have gone through this program and passed it.

    Study hard

  • The clinical dean is a political nutcase. Republicans only need apply.  Seriously.

  • helpful clinical videos for med students

    website: o2demand

  • fuck u jarome

  • I'm from Canada, about to enter my first year of bio molecular science.

    I plan to attend a school like this in the Caribbean.

  • There's a lot of Canadians over here. You'll fit right in!

    By the way, some of my family is in Vancouver, BC. Canada rocks! good luck!

  • Hey I was just wondering how many people without a degree get accepted each year/ what kind of GPA and MCAT do they have? By without a degree, I mean accepted after 3rd year. Thanks

  • I'm sorry, but I don't have an answer for that. Try contacting the school. I remember hearing that in the past they have done that, though! good luck and its a good thing that you're trying early!

  • i had a 2.8 and i didnt take the mcat and i got in

  • really?? how far are you in the program? i have 2.46 and plan to take mcat, you think i can get in?

  • I am currently in my 4th semester (finishing up my second year).

    Whatever you do, try to apply and see how it goes. This school almost seems that it functions by filling up all its spots, which is about 350 spots, every 3 months.

    Hopefully you can get better scores in your MCAT to make up for your GPA. Read the comments posted here. I think someone had a 2.5 gpa and got in. For those that dont get accepted, I think that they are referred to a program that improves your GPA/background.

  • first off, thank very much for your reply, it was very useful, its awesome how you can find out such useful info on youtube haha. i am currently taking some science courses and single. do you find ross a lot harder than your undergrad program? did you ever regret deciding to go to ross? and what kind of doctor are you planning to become

  • Ross is a lot harder than undergrad. You must devote your life to studying in this island, and work so that you don't get failed out of school. I don't think that I have the option of regretting not coming here. I wanted to advance my career and this school is giving me the opportunity. I don't know what branch of medicine I will take, but it could be Psych, Academic or administrative level.

  • What does your gpa and mcat scores has to be to get in to ross?

    thanks

  • lolz i suspect is first tim eu see an animal like that. lols. its my home man DOminica

  • hey im applying to ross and i got a 28 on my mcats and a 2.9 gpa do u think i have a chance of getting in?

  • You Should give it a try. Ross is fast. Within a few weeks you will get an interview. I recommend anyone who has doubts about med school, to give Ross/ or another reliable Caribbean School a try.

    Application is fast. Interview is scheduled quickly.

    I know students that are here that had below average GPA's and High MCAT scores like you.

    I think that the best bet for you is to justify why you had a tough time in school.

  • ahh... memories...

  • Are you a graduate? I guess... that the tour could feel nostalgic in a way for those that have walked in these parts of the world...

  • There is a new medical school in California called Stewart University, apply quick before seat fill up!

    STEWARTMED ORG

  • good luck as well. I hope to be here next year as well, hehe.

  • thanks alot, good luck i hope u do well, and hopefully i'll be over there next year. Thanks again!

  • Ochem will be tainted lighter in med school studies, (especially biochem) but again, the more you know, the better prepared you will be.

    Well, the students that remain here, are those that study hard. Realistically, people who understand concepts and study, and prioritize it, will pass. Some people don't have the ability to understand for X personal reasons (there's parents, there's many non-traditional students, etc). Others, take med school lightly.

  • I been thinking of taking an anatomy course at a community college. Man i hate Ochem, but again who doesn't. Also I hear alot of bad things about ross, like its attrition rate but i think its everyones personal responsability to do well. Is it really that bad at Ross?

  • take anatomy, if you can. You have better chances of getting an A, and be familiar with the body. You will be dissecting human bodies.

  • all day study :( I'm a flash card kinda guy, so i'll be using them like crazy I suppose. I'll take the MCAT more seriously now knowing that some of it will be in med school (I didn't know that)

  • Yep, understand concepts of how the Ochem functions, biochem processes in general, anatomy... the more you know, the better, man.  I have yet to see the physics applied in medicine, but I guess osmotic pressure is a part of it, and general understanding of the forces? Once you are in med school, you will relearn biochem/anatomy/histology/neur­ology but in greater detail, and its good to already have your bases covered. I wish I had known that myself.

  • One more thing before I go to bed... make sure you learn as many labels as you can. Names of proteins/hormones/cell components/cells/cascades, to the tee... 'cause you'll see it comin' again, and hard, in school!

    And if you ever have any other questions, it will be my pleasure to enlighten your curiosity!

  • good stuff. is it really overwelming? The whole med school thing.

  • damn, my last message erased. School will not be overwhelming if you study. Something for sure is that, you will be studying every day, for the whole day, while you are at school, if you want to possess good grades. My advice to you is that if you bomb the MCAT, then do so, while trying to absorb AND UNDERSTAND as much as you can from the actual material. It will ease your first months in school, because you will be presented with the same material again (except the math calculations).

  • You know what, these scores dont mean crap. As long as you learn to be a good doctor, thats all that matters. High Five to ya buddy, how far along r u at ross!

  • This is my first semester. It is a time of relearning how to learn. I can now see a parallel between how "to prepare" for the MCAT, to how a person should study every day in med school. You will relearn how to learn a lot of material in a limited amount of time. But people adjust over time their style.

  • Sweet! What's the average gpa/ mcat to get in Ross. I got a 3.8gpa, but i know i'm gonna bomb the mcat when i take it in the spring.

  • Well, though not as proud of my scores, but satisfied with my accomplishments @ college, I got in with a 3.47 GPA, 21MCAT score, and with a nice background in leadership abilities, volunteering activities, motivation, love for teaching/learning, and an interest in helping other people out.

  • Obviously clinical rotations and competetive residencies are important aspects of medical school. But tagging a few hotties during med school doesn't hurt!

  • heh heh. Well, the beach is right behind the campus after all... and once in a while, when stress is out, you will see the beach with all its glimmering colors, if you know what I mean.

  • Sweet, I heard the campus is packed. How are the girls?

  • Well, even though one doesn't commonly go to med school for the looks of the girls... I must say that umm... you know, you will find good looking ladies. The school is very ethnically diverse, which is nice as well.

  • Looks like a scene from 28 Days Later, No People

  • Well, that is because I made the video before school started. But believe me, if there are any people in this town, they are defenitely concentrated at the campus.

    And true to 28 days later, you will have students looking like zombies, eating each other out before exams, heh (which is about every other 28 days).

  • Nice video !!! Dominica is so nice !!

  • Thanks!! Yeah, its been really nice down here. It is called the nature island of the caribbean!! Come back later, I might have some really nice videos of the "nature" part of the island!

  • Cool !!! looking forward to it !!!

  • You should probably see a doctor or something. It is not normal for a person to throw up after watching you tube. It could be something psychiatric, you know?

  • lol, see who

    do you recommend yourself ?

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