I dont understand the intellectual religious, i wish i could, but how can you square critical thinking and debating ideas with having a text that claims to be the unchangable truth? I'd really like a explanation on this, but im guessing there are only Hitch fans on this clip ;)
How cute, she sees a moral equivalence between Israel having nuclear weapons and a fascistic autocracy that spouts apocalyptic mantra having nuclear weapons.
@seanearnest Hitchens was pro-palestine for decades and until his death, and rightly so. He despised the Israeli settlers, and the theistic public support from europe and particularly the united states. Why your comment has gotten so many votes up I do not understand.
@SigDrums Hitchens was always pro-Palestinians. Not pro-Palestine (read: Palestinian "authorities" aka terrorists) warlords who oppress their own people and who's struggle is used by all Islamic states to take the focus off their disgusting human rights violations AGAINST their own citizens. And that's exactly what he said in his answer.
@theviolator23 yes the muslim guy seems like one of the most intelligent public religious speakers i've seen so far, although his dodging of the homosexuality stance was pretty weak. but yeh a formal debate would be good i think.
If anyone is wondering why Hitchens continues to get the direct questions, compare the answers of the blonde woman and Hitchens about Iran as a threat. Hitchens is much clearer, much more accurate and, I'll give him this, much more entertaining.
High I'm stupid and don't understand half of the things they are talking about. I sure do like looking at Christopher Hitchens though, lmao. I'm not even gay. It's so weird. I guess cause he's the god of punk outs.
Hitchens' exchange with the young woman is telling of a typical apologist strategy : if one bad thing is happening, divert the discourse to another that's bad or worse.
Israel's hideous ethnic cleansing program doesn't excuse Palestinian suicide bombing or rocket attacks, nor does it mean Iran is less of a tyrannical regime.
This isn't so unrelated to the Polanski affair where many liberals are under the misapprehension that a corrupt Californian justice system nullifies jailing a pedophile.
I took care to say "many liberals" not all. And irrefutably, in Hollywood the support for Polanski was predominantly liberal. That gives me no pleasure in saying, given that I consider myself a liberal with the vast majority of political opinion. And the opportunism of the lawyers on that case is well documented - none of which of course excuses Polanki, of course.
Well, Israel's "hideous ethnic cleansing program" is a result of the "hideous arab ethnic cleansing program that started the entire conflict", in other words - it's self defense. The early arab attempt to annihilate Israel demanded the expansion from the UN borders. Mostly to secure Israel from its barbarous neighbors, but also to serve as a lesson to imperialist muslims who can't live with the idea that Jews are governing themselves. Even today Hamas' charter includes the destruction of Israel.
You should look further back. The British broke the promise of Arab independence in Palestine with the promise of a Jewish homeland. How do you think seeing British soldiers ushering in European Jews after that broken promise of independence made the Arabs feel?
That reads as demonstrating my very point where one uses any act of previous oppression to excuse terrorism.
In what way does Israel's war against terrorism from Hamas, Hezbollah, PLO, etc., excuse their intentional killing and annexing of Palestinian civilians?
The aforementioned Islamic extremist faction' activities of suicide bombing, rocket attacks and blowing up schools, are well documented, as are their anti-Semitic charters - so why do Israel's equivalent crimes get re-categoriesd?
what's equivalent about it? Israel's "intentional killings" are initiated because Israel likes to bomb brown people. It's a retalliation to the terrorist groups who DO initate attacks against civilians(war crime under Geneva convetions) while using their own civilians as human shild.
There is no, I repeat, no comparison between the two. People should stop with this redundant and idiotic mantra.
I dont understand the intellectual religious, i wish i could, but how can you square critical thinking and debating ideas with having a text that claims to be the unchangable truth? I'd really like a explanation on this, but im guessing there are only Hitch fans on this clip ;)
ceclovitch 3 weeks ago
One of the rare times when everyone on the panel is scrambling for cover at
the hand of one man. One individual with the truth of reality on their side is
invincible against superstition and brain washing.
tingfact 5 months ago 4
The Muslim guy is Walid Aly, an intelligent commentator on ABC television.
fidomusic 7 months ago
It humors me that in about 100 years the Arabs will look back at their ridiculous behavior with regret.
ExNihiloJimmy 1 year ago
Hitchslapped...
CartervonRiedel 1 year ago 5
I like that chick. I want her.
rastarigate 1 year ago
wow - brave girl thinking she could really outsmart Hitchens - that won't happen!
CigarStudLasVegas 2 years ago 6
How cute, she sees a moral equivalence between Israel having nuclear weapons and a fascistic autocracy that spouts apocalyptic mantra having nuclear weapons.
regelemihai 2 years ago
god
another religious person who believes in a zionist conspiracy
sure israel should recognise the rights of palestine for a state
but there isnt actually a conspiracy
they just act like pricks without a plan
not trying to offend but come on!
MrBlues1993 2 years ago
Poor wee lass, had no idea who Hitchens is.
tomclunie 2 years ago 4
That girl is cute :D
aweiss 2 years ago
Wow, she just got obliterated.
Crosskeys 2 years ago 6
Typical pro-Palestine drivel from that teeny bopper (although she is quite attractive). Hitchens lays waste to her in grand style. Gotta love it!
seanearnest 2 years ago 25
@seanearnest Actually Hitchens is pro Palestinian and anti Zionist, although he doesn't make much of it these days.
fidomusic 7 months ago
@seanearnest
She is hot.
GarchompNation 2 months ago
@seanearnest Hitchens was pro-palestine for decades and until his death, and rightly so. He despised the Israeli settlers, and the theistic public support from europe and particularly the united states. Why your comment has gotten so many votes up I do not understand.
SigDrums 1 month ago
@SigDrums Hitchens was always pro-Palestinians. Not pro-Palestine (read: Palestinian "authorities" aka terrorists) warlords who oppress their own people and who's struggle is used by all Islamic states to take the focus off their disgusting human rights violations AGAINST their own citizens. And that's exactly what he said in his answer.
HuntingGoodWill 2 weeks ago
@HuntingGoodWill Fair enough.
SigDrums 2 weeks ago
Haha, agreed, the poor girl was demolished and forced to eat her own words.
Aside from that, Hitchens has so far been remarkably restrained.
ruinedbyidiots 2 years ago 7
one of the best pieces i have heard about the fraudulent election in iran
navid99us 2 years ago 5
Hitchens and the Islamic man are by far the best on this show, I would love to see them have a formal debate
theviolator23 2 years ago 38
@theviolator23 yes the muslim guy seems like one of the most intelligent public religious speakers i've seen so far, although his dodging of the homosexuality stance was pretty weak. but yeh a formal debate would be good i think.
xentech 1 year ago 2
@theviolator23 Hitchens would win but, yes, it would be interesting.
Seanze329 1 year ago
@theviolator23 He's not Islamic. He's a Christian convert.
uberhikari 2 months ago
Don't bite off more than you can chew, luv
CaptainStern2 2 years ago 4
If anyone is wondering why Hitchens continues to get the direct questions, compare the answers of the blonde woman and Hitchens about Iran as a threat. Hitchens is much clearer, much more accurate and, I'll give him this, much more entertaining.
rkullberg 2 years ago 4
High I'm stupid and don't understand half of the things they are talking about. I sure do like looking at Christopher Hitchens though, lmao. I'm not even gay. It's so weird. I guess cause he's the god of punk outs.
enors412 2 years ago
He's soooo good at debating
JayLeePoe 2 years ago
Checkout the priest commenting on Roman Ploanski. He should look a little closer to home, the Catholic Church is rife with paedophiles. Shame on them
Tcheuchter1 2 years ago 9
damn good point, tcheuter, I'm surprised nobody in these comments brought it up sooner.
theREALshafan 2 years ago
Hitchens made that girl look lke the idiot she is. Nice.
BTheAheist 2 years ago 8
You're damn right he did.
enors412 2 years ago
id still give her a nice push in
kylejones7 2 years ago
Hitchens' exchange with the young woman is telling of a typical apologist strategy : if one bad thing is happening, divert the discourse to another that's bad or worse.
Israel's hideous ethnic cleansing program doesn't excuse Palestinian suicide bombing or rocket attacks, nor does it mean Iran is less of a tyrannical regime.
This isn't so unrelated to the Polanski affair where many liberals are under the misapprehension that a corrupt Californian justice system nullifies jailing a pedophile.
PurushaDesa 2 years ago 4
I'm a liberal and a Californian and I think Polanski should be jailed. So did the judge he ran from... don't be ignorant.
BTheAheist 2 years ago 4
I took care to say "many liberals" not all. And irrefutably, in Hollywood the support for Polanski was predominantly liberal. That gives me no pleasure in saying, given that I consider myself a liberal with the vast majority of political opinion. And the opportunism of the lawyers on that case is well documented - none of which of course excuses Polanki, of course.
PurushaDesa 2 years ago
Well, Israel's "hideous ethnic cleansing program" is a result of the "hideous arab ethnic cleansing program that started the entire conflict", in other words - it's self defense. The early arab attempt to annihilate Israel demanded the expansion from the UN borders. Mostly to secure Israel from its barbarous neighbors, but also to serve as a lesson to imperialist muslims who can't live with the idea that Jews are governing themselves. Even today Hamas' charter includes the destruction of Israel.
Gnomefro 2 years ago
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TheConciseStatement 2 years ago
You should look further back. The British broke the promise of Arab independence in Palestine with the promise of a Jewish homeland. How do you think seeing British soldiers ushering in European Jews after that broken promise of independence made the Arabs feel?
TheAntiSeMight 2 years ago
That reads as demonstrating my very point where one uses any act of previous oppression to excuse terrorism.
In what way does Israel's war against terrorism from Hamas, Hezbollah, PLO, etc., excuse their intentional killing and annexing of Palestinian civilians?
The aforementioned Islamic extremist faction' activities of suicide bombing, rocket attacks and blowing up schools, are well documented, as are their anti-Semitic charters - so why do Israel's equivalent crimes get re-categoriesd?
PurushaDesa 2 years ago
what's equivalent about it? Israel's "intentional killings" are initiated because Israel likes to bomb brown people. It's a retalliation to the terrorist groups who DO initate attacks against civilians(war crime under Geneva convetions) while using their own civilians as human shild.
There is no, I repeat, no comparison between the two. People should stop with this redundant and idiotic mantra.
regelemihai 2 years ago