Re: Why Teaching Creationism is a Horrible Idea

[WorldPodTour]

u r awsm!!! agree !

[evelsteev]

You're right, your view is NOT very sound. You can prove evolution is true (DNA, fosill records), you can'r prove there's a god. Case closed.

[Khuntastik]

And that's called cherry picking, and by the look of the cross in the background, you prolly believe some of the christian doctrine, but you can't accept all of it because it just doesn't make any sense ! Well, why don't you just drop it all, because none of that make any sense ? The more I speak with theist the more I think Bill Maher is right, having no faith is a luxury and man, I'm the fuckin richest guy on the whole fuckin planet ! PLEASE GROW A PAIR AND DROP THIS SHIT !!!

[themefund]

@Khuntastik Because I think having no faith ignores an instinctual desire to both belong to something larger than ourselves and to express the inner spiritual life that I think exists in all of us.

I think that you've fulfilled you "belong to something larger" by belonging to the cult of Maher, with all it's inflammatory and hateful content. What I think you are ignoring is the spiritual nature of all life.

Of course, nothing I say here will convince you of the truth of that statement.

[Khuntastik]

@themefund You can see truth were you want to see it and that's prolly why religion still exist. Have you ever tought about of many minister or preacher became atheist over the time because they preached from a book full of lies ? I don't belong to the cult of Maher, I'm not a rationalist because I check Real Time with Bill Maher on TV, but because I'm a rationalist I agree with some of is point of view. Saying the human race need spirituality is a wrong statement IMO. Why would we need that ?

[ramaraksha01]

Why do creationists fight against evolution so much? Just imagine primitive man & if we are all made in the image of god, god looks like an ape? Hairy, dirty, smelly, unwashed, yellow broken teeth, horrible hair.... that is supposed to represent God? No wonder time stops going backward about 5,000 years ago to these people.

Next time u take a look at the image of an Neanderthal man in a museum, i am sure u will pay him a bit more respect - Behold God in all his glory!

[Ramshobraja]

There are ssveral biology professors I know who are religious and follow evolution. You can easily reconcile the two.

[papafox]

Regardless of Creationist claims to the contrary, most Christians accept the fact of evolution. For a couple examples,

- Google the "Clergy Letter Project," an open letter supporting the teaching of evolution. To date, it's been signed by over 12,000 Christian clergy.

- Look up Pope JPII's Address to the Pontifical Academy of Sciences -- "Truth Cannot Contradict Truth."

I object to those evangelicals in the US who try to force their religious beliefs on other people.

[8DX]

What's on that guy's forehead? Urgh.. made me itch the whole vid.

Also interesting would be to know whether this guy has children himself. Don't think so. I got a daughter and bringing her up is pretty difficult.

Oh and I think evolution should be taught at home as well - get children understand the basic idea from the start.

[themefund]

The thing on my forehead is a scar from a brain tumor removal surgery I had as a young child

I have an 8 year old son, and a 9 year old daughter.

[maitriparamita]

I once heard a physicist who is a Christian explain how he reconciles the two. He said that he leaves the explanation and prediction of observable events to science. Science explains What happens and How - but his religion explains Why and provides for him the meaning behind the events. That does seem a possible way to reconcile religion and science.

[spiderzer0]

I went to Catholic high school and my physics teacher once said, "If you think of God as an old man in a robe, with a beard, who lives on the clouds, then of course there is no place for God in science. If, however, you think of God as a manifestation of the fundamental laws that govern the Universe, then He and science aren't so incompatible."

I still ended up an atheist, but it was one of the more reasonable apologetic tactics I've ever heard.

[Ripley747]

I'm honestly not opposed to teaching creation in a classroom but NOT in science class. There are classes you can take, even in high school, that teach religions, past and present. It's perfectly acceptable to teach creation in those classes imo. You can even get a degree in theology. You better know the creation story if you have that as a degree. It's acceptable because they are teaching religion, not trying to convert. It should NOT be taught in science class.

[820423]

I really respect this reply-video.

[Morkindie]

You, have an interesting point of view. I disagree with the idea that we should teach our own children. I love my son, and want to teach him everything, but I know that there are many things that I don't know, and many things that I am wrong about. That is why I demand a competent school system be provided by the government. It is something that I could not possibly do on my own. Also I have no RIGHT to ensure that my son believes the same as me. I am responsible to ensure that he knows MORE.

[BobbyJonesInc]

I'm not entirely advocating Home Schooling (although my children are homeschooled and I do love Home Education)

What I was advocating for here was the "Home Church" I don't think religion should be taught in schools, that should be the responsibility of the parents, whether that be to teach the religion themselves, are just be generally involved in the religious education of their children in earnest, rather than passive observers of the education of their children, religious or otherwise.

[hpholland]

Of course not!

We need to teach our children HOW to think for themselves.

[deathblade979]

lol so do u let kids decide if they should sstart druncking beer???? yea u are right we should let them think for themselves or better yet let them drunck for themselves.. right?????

no you retartd./............ fuck we should let kids decide what we should tech them about sex And wHAt GrADE tOo???

[hpholland]

Dude, do you realize that more than 80% of Canada has English as the first language. Perhaps you should grasp it.

Other than that I refuse to listen to counter-arguments which include quite possibly the worst analogy ever.

Good day sir.

[finerbiner]

@Morkindie Do you think any school or teacher knows everything? You ARE teaching your kids through every word and action they see.

Schools in general do a pretty good job of teaching "group think". If you want your children to be independent thinkers you will have to instill this ideal.

Good Luck

[Morkindie]

@finerbiner

Schools also teach critical thinking. It's not all rote memorization.

[finerbiner]

@Morkindie I don't disagree with your statement ,but that was not my point. My point was that as a parent , it is YOUR responsibility to make sure they are critical thinkers. It is YOUR responsibility to make sure they are being educated well. The public(or private) school system is a tool you have at your disposal. An important tool but in the end they are your kids and it is your responsibility. other edu systems in the world spend much less with superior results because they understand this

[Morkindie]

@finerbiner

Yes, It is my responsibility to ensure that my children are educated, and learn critical thinking skills. Some day they will have much to teach me.

But, if I neglect to teach them, or begin to teach them things that are incorrect, what responsibility does the rest of society have, if any?

Is the rest of the world supposed to idly sit by and say, "Well, it is HIS responsibility, not ours."?

I say, no. We all share a vested interest in educating everyone.

[finerbiner]

@Morkindie We are discussing degree of responsibility I think, because there are things home and society must provide. Here in the US we have emphasized public almost to the exclusion of the role of the parent. It is right/good/nice for govt to try to fill the hole if the parents shirk their responsibility. the problem is that much capital is used and little good is actually done,

The parent lottery (that kids are born into) is so important and too often cruel.

[Morkindie]

@finerbiner

Agreed, on the first point.

On the last point, I believe that the public school system has done a lot of good, even if it isn't perfect or even as good as other public systems.

[bleft01]

You make some very sensible points, which i happen to agree with.

The only problem is that creationists view evolution, entirely wrongly, as a faith based position as well.

But, as is obvious from the amount of evidence involved, if they view evolution as faith they have to reject the scientific method and view the whole of science as faith, which is comically absurd.

[usernameofnobody]

"Schools are for interlectual learning and not for faith installment"

That is the best sentence I've heard regarding this debate.

I'm also very pleased that another Christian is saying it.

[Abgef]

how come it appears as if no one has commented here?

Is there some deleting going on?

[Abgef]

FIRST!!! ...i guess

[themefund]

I would NEVER delete a comment, even if it was incendiary and offensive, I love flamers and dissenters more than anything!