Stupid little kids, go back to ur apartments listen to lady Kaka and Justin Bieber that kind of facist music that contributes to keep yr lizard brain in the same mediocre level forever
I swear to god, this guitarist knows like three chords, and the rest of it is just funny noises. Also you guys do realise that these guys were too fucked up on heroin to know what they were playing; that's why all their eyes are rolled back.
@ettic0982 Well, it's certainly more verbose than what you had to say. You didn't really make much of a point with your rather basic use of sarcasm. Stop pretending to be smart, Ornette Coleman is the OFWGKTA of Jazz. Get over it.
Definitely. It's happy, sad, disappointed and so many things. He brings a lot of confusion out in people because so many are looking for superficiality in Art to confirm for them that life is without meaning and the choices they've made that brought them to empty robot-headed fate.
I have to admit that I'm not the biggest fan of free jazz. Usually its a bunch of guys trying too hard to be 'free' and making in the end of a jumble of noise. But this is great. It starts out like a spring day then morphs into a tempest and near the end Ornette takes us out of the storm and back to that bright sunny day. Blood wanted to stir that storm back up again, but Ornette didn't let him.
Damn this is wonderful. Ornette is incredible and monumental as always, Ulmer just plays the beautiful hell out of it, Sirone is doing so much on bass if you listen closely. And it is so very nice to see the great Billy Higgins again, one of my favorite drummers of all time who was comfortable in and excelled in all sorts of settings from straight-ahead hard bop to the type of free jazz Ornette is laying down here.
Art was never meant for the masses; if you feel you don't understand this music you are probably part of the masses, unable to understand anything outside of pop culture. Its not necessarily your fault, which means there may be a chance for you to become a bit more open and able to understand art.
My interpratation of this guitarist's tuning: guitar is not playing "harmonies" for the soloist, but providing textures, rhythm, energy, and sounds. Therefore he can tune or detune it anyway it pleases him.
One of the most vocal drum solos i've ever heard. Someone vote down the person who dissed radiohead, there is no need for that. I love ornette and radiohead, and norah jones is a good girl
I personally like the sound of the guitar on this recording. I am so sick of "good" guitar players. There should be more slightly out of tune musicians. I am serious.
1:40 zombie bass player ! And yes the guitar is out of tune you tards. Anyone who mistakes that as bing due to "complex dissonant chords" ought to give up all interest in music immediately.
@PutItAway101 Agreed. But, perhaps they should work more on their ear training.... instead of just giving up. I would love to see this kind of music gain more popularity.
You know, I sort of understood this music. Listen closely and you will hear the musicians improvising off of the original theme's motifs. Even the drummer during his solo does this.
bonjour et merci, jamais le jazz n'avait atteind une telle ingéniosité poétique et musicale, une fabuleuse conversation où l'humour le dispute à la tristesse du cirque humain, et merci encore
the part at 0:27 and 0:50, especially the whole section after :50 is some fuggin awesome guitar work. it's so spazzy and contorting. it comes back like a demon at 6:00 some the most satisfyingly complex and deconstructed guitar playing ive heard. fuck the haters
you guys are assholes..."edit out the guitar" and "out of tune"..its fukin free jazz, if u must name it..what it is daring, pushing the limits of form and structure. go back and listen to radiohead or nora jones
@trufiend138 Yeah, I'm with you. I don't understand why someone would even bother listening to Ornette without relaxing their expectations for how ALL instruments are played. I don't want anyone to feel unwelcome but for Christ's sake there's plenty of conventionally-tuned guitars to listen to elsewhere on the tube.
@trufiend138 Actually, the guitar does sound like it is out of tune. This may be intentional, or it is possible that I am not hearing it correctly. But it is not for lack of knowledge or appreciation of Ornette Coleman's music that I say this. Also, I cannot recall ever hearing an instrument sound out of tune on any of Coleman's records. It is most likely an error, although it might be intentional. But why do you believe people who think that are assholes? Is it beyond the realm of possibility?
so your telling me if u ehard this exact smae performance back when it was happening, live, you would leave the club because you THOUGHT the guitar was out of tune?
Me for example, cant stand to hear Christina aguliera despite everyone's assurance that, "she can sing"..it sounds like crap to me, so I dont listen but im not gonnna say she is out of tune!
@trufiend138 Where did I say anything about leaving the club because the guitar was out of tune? How is it that you read that? Do you think I am incapable of saying whether or not the guitar was out of tune? Unless there is something very distorted about the recording we have, the guitar was out of tune. Whether it was intentional or not is an open question. I have played guitar for 25 years and can say that much. Also, whether or not you like Aguilera (I don't), she can sing in tune.
@trufiend138 no, you're an asshole, a stupid asshole at that. You stooped down to the exact same level, commenting on bands that you have no idea or any fucking clue of how hard it is to come up with a style, a sound, etc. please, fucking enlighten us, show us your amazing compositions, your magazines with your personal critique. lets see your credentials on your album and artist critiquing. you're a fucking jackass fuck you you fucking piece of horse shit. By the way, this is a great tune.
@trufiend138 you're totally right, the guitar sounds perfectly in tune with the sax, it's obvious that whatever detuning, if any, it was intentional and sensational at that. i believe this to be some of the coolest guitar playing ive heard. anyone who states how long theyve been playing guitar then says the guitar might be out of tune as if it's a bad thing should stop playing guitar
@trufiend138 Um are you sure you want to refer to "Radiohead" and imply that it's a shallow or popish band? I like this Jazz to, it has a beautiful chaotic feel to it, but if I where you I'd take a listen to some Radiohead.
@10094926 ive heard plenty radiohead, like everyone else of this generation even ad a radio-phase...my point is there music is far more comprehensible, commercial, you can tap a foot to it..THIS music is not meant to be!!
@trufiend138 free jazz is not just about pushing the limits, sure it's daring but there's also a lot of heart in the musicianship and instrumentation, not to mention the beautiful avant garde jazz cool aspect of it
Love the story of Ornette first appearing on the scene playing a plastic sax (see artwork for 'Shape of Jazz' lp) Established musicians used to tease him by asking if was filled with candy.
it's just you.....go to kenny g and u will get something u will cherish for years to come------ornette is not for u little guy-----hop on the ones and twos G
Now I know where bands like Matching Mole, Etron Fou Lelouban and Henry Cow got their style! I just thought those guys made it all up. Here's the source.
@shroomangel True Brother- Love Dave Stewart, Pip Pyle, Mont Campbell, EGG, Hatfield and the North et.al-- I too, think they cut their teeth on this. Ornette is from my Hometown..Ft. Worth,TX. My brother and I still play like this...or try to play like this.....
haha!!! everyone else in the band is on dope! how amazing this session must have felt like sober, not to mention on good ol' H! this stuff is out there, in an amazing way! fuck all the naysayers! harmolodics and heroin! makes for a good evenin'.
I did. I'm still trying to "get" jazz, as I realize that all the people playing on this clip are immensely talented, but as of yet, no luck. There is something to be said for composed music, in the same way as there is something to be said for building a house from a blueprint.
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Yeah but it's like the story of "the emperor's new clothes". They are all IMENSELY talented but all it would take would be for a 10 year old kid at the back of the room to stand up and point out that they are, in fact, just playing a load of rubbish.
@BlackMonk66 Don't have a fit, i was just expressing my thoughts there and then. Music is cool enough. i was just remarking that it was a bit dissonant. and btw. i'm not 10... wow, impressive.
@friele80 I wasn't responding to you. When I posted that-a year ago- I was responding to "all it would take would be for a 10 year old kid at the back of the room to stand up and point out that they are, in fact, just playing a load of rubbish." Given that comment, "I don't let 10 year old kids dictate my taste in music" is a perfectly appropriate response.
reply to Anglagard- I'm an artist, not a musician, but have some kind of an ear, by extension of creative instinct. My view is Free-jazz is difficult and a matter of taste- but to 'get' jazz there's almost a century's worth of recordings from easy to like ragtime and trad over to horrible avant-garde noise. Sublime and easier to 'get' would be Kind of Blue by Miles Davis- lots of stuff by Chet Baker, Stan Getz, Art Blakey. Slightly more challenging- Charles Mingus
I was that night in Rome in the fantastic little club named Music Inn created by great Conte Pepito Pignatelli the first in Rome We was only 30 40 people in all Rome very avanguard
Io c'ero quella sera al Music Inn mitico locale del Conte Pepito Pignatelli eravamo non più di 30 40 persone in tutta Roma, io e i miei compagni di scuola venivamo da Ostia e tornammo a piedi fino alla stazione per il notturno
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Wtf? as a guitar plyr i am embarassed. taken alone each player could have been making a valid musical statement, but not the gtr. never really heard ulmer bfor but jeez , awful.
isn't it due to the distorsion ? Or maybe he wanted it. Sounds good to me anyway. I wish I could see the cords he's playing. Really nice chords. I'd really enjoy to be able to play this way
my first thought was 'my lord yes, he's always out of tune' and you know, he is. but if you listen to it twice and just kinda nudge your brain a bit to the left, it makes sense. its more about relative pitch, dynamics, tension, release. but yes, those are not the pure tones of western music we are accustomed too.
Another thing...I was into jazz as a little kid, and so quickly progressed into listening to Coleman.
I was a teenager working in a record store in 1976 when I heard about the upcoming release of "Dancing in your Head" on Horizon - Ornette was going electric on record! I was literally counting the days until this came out. Then, one day, the store manager pulled out a copy. After the store closed for the night, we put it on over the store speaker system. It totally blew my head off!
Very early Prime Time stuff...very interesting! "Theme from a Symphony", originally from the germination of "Skies of America".
Who's in this group? I'm trying to identify them as I watch this...it sounds like Blood Ulmer on guitar - he was Ornette's earliest Prime Time guitar player, I'm guessing Sirone from the Revs is on bass...it's Billy Higgins on drums, but I didn't recognize his playing until the drum break.
This is good stuff. First time I heard Coleman I was rocking in my seat and I felt like standing up and jumping up and down with excitement. The energy in his music is amazing.
I hear his influence all over the place, in lots of different genres: Kraut rock, No-Wave, Noise rock, to name just a few. But obviously his main influence was in pioneering Free Jazz. Who cares about genres though, the important thing is that his music is AMAZING.
To all who make comparisons with other jazz musicians: Ornette doesn't play jazz. OK? He calls his musical theory harmolodics. Stop talking if you don't know shit about him.
And why do some people feel the need to coin terms on everything, or group everything together? Take it for what it is, dipshits! If you don't like it.... don't listen
I was reading some of the comments left by viewers. Those of you that do not feel this style of Jazz, you have to realize that the point of Free Jazz is to be "non-conforming." This style is not supposed to fit in the parameter of Coltrane, Parker, Davis, Rollins or the other kats from Bebop and Rebop. You take each musician as their own style and appreciate it for that. In my opinion, Coleman is not overrated at all, he is an extremely tight kat and is the leader of the Free Jazz arena...
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If you compare this to Charlie Parker live stuff or unofficial recordings in the forties, or if you compare this to the big band stuff back then: Ellington, Basie, Dorsey brothers, Miller, etc. etc.; this stuff sucks. Ornette is one of the most overrated jazz musicians alive. Man, all I hear are drugs! The best stuff was all before 1950, unless were talking about guys like Miles Davis, Rollins, and Roach etc. And Ornette would agree with me. Ornette is nothing compared to BIRD. Listen and learn.
Thanks for setting all of us straight. I foolishly thought I enjoyed Ornette's music, plus hundreds of other jazz musicians from past 60 years, until you showed me the error of my ways! Thanks again.
the guitarist sucks... thats the thing with the ornette stuff with a guitar player - they are always sort of shit in my opinion - exception: james blood ulmer's tales of captain black obviously.
the guitar sounds out of tune, this session must have been like a miserable downer for the whole gang. except for the guitarist that might have lost his hearing temporarily.
I agree with you I dont think they were looking for a perfect conventional tone quality, I think they were trying to move away from all the stuff before(20's-60's) and create new sounds, I like the off kilter feeling that comes from not haveing everything in exact balance, I like the old stuf and this as well, if they are off pitch a bit I think it is on purpose, you know makeing use of quartertones, and pitches that dont fallexactly within standard tunning etc..
the guitar sounds a bit loud when he's comping, I'm a guitar player myself so I don't mind, but generally when your comping your supporting the soloist, not standing out
well, seeing as ornette's whole concept was about the liberation of 'sidemen' and the equality of all group members, perhaps you might want to rethink that view
When this album came out I played this song over and over. Loved it. Still do. Audio isn't great on this video though, but it's cool seeing Ornette, Higgins, Ulmer and Sirone.
WICKED description!!! Works for me....I didn't HAVE a very sturdy image of Ornette Coleman before...I THINK..I shall be adopting yours..for the time being..many many thanks!
sonikitty: but surely you're not telling me what my reaction to OC should be, no matter what it is..that's totally against the idea of avant garde & free jazz. If you are telling me that, then you must be a jazz nazi posing as a libertine... I hope not
There is a beautiful ironic-ugly texture in the guitar comping. The theme at saxophone is not tuned with guitar and the beauty is in that. It's very strange and humoristic. It can also scary.
wouldn't u agree jazz is hyper tension and notes are irrelelvant?
daddysevenpointfiver 2 days ago
"Dancing In Your Head"
TinyUnits 1 week ago in playlist Bill's personal favorites
looks like they're having fun
deathbysacanage 2 weeks ago
PURE DOPE!
sitarnut 4 months ago
far out geetar
edrepard 4 months ago
James Blood Ulmer, bloody brilliant. no his guitar IS NOT out of tune
kill9945 4 months ago
Stupid little kids, go back to ur apartments listen to lady Kaka and Justin Bieber that kind of facist music that contributes to keep yr lizard brain in the same mediocre level forever
fran86beta 6 months ago 2
This is great especially the guitar!
fralemieux 7 months ago
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fralemieux 7 months ago
I swear to god, this guitarist knows like three chords, and the rest of it is just funny noises. Also you guys do realise that these guys were too fucked up on heroin to know what they were playing; that's why all their eyes are rolled back.
cholocharile 7 months ago
@cholocharile You are a bad person.
pjustusxi 7 months ago
@cholocharile What a devastating critique! You showed em who's boss! Dumb ass
ettic0982 6 months ago
@ettic0982 Well, it's certainly more verbose than what you had to say. You didn't really make much of a point with your rather basic use of sarcasm. Stop pretending to be smart, Ornette Coleman is the OFWGKTA of Jazz. Get over it.
lennietristanojazz 5 months ago
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@cholocharile you are a fascist moron
theSW1111TCHworks 6 months ago
Definitely. It's happy, sad, disappointed and so many things. He brings a lot of confusion out in people because so many are looking for superficiality in Art to confirm for them that life is without meaning and the choices they've made that brought them to empty robot-headed fate.
cindyandrob 8 months ago
They should play this at Guantanamo.
smalllove1 8 months ago
Ornette Coleman and James Blood Ulmer, doesn't get any better. :)
confrontjames 8 months ago
a fucking clown, this man is hilarious
Briangolera 8 months ago
es un clown no hay vuelta que darle jajaj
Briangolera 8 months ago
why does billy higgins have that smirk on his face if they aren't jivin'?
rillloudmother 10 months ago
I have to admit that I'm not the biggest fan of free jazz. Usually its a bunch of guys trying too hard to be 'free' and making in the end of a jumble of noise. But this is great. It starts out like a spring day then morphs into a tempest and near the end Ornette takes us out of the storm and back to that bright sunny day. Blood wanted to stir that storm back up again, but Ornette didn't let him.
Odin029 11 months ago
Damn this is wonderful. Ornette is incredible and monumental as always, Ulmer just plays the beautiful hell out of it, Sirone is doing so much on bass if you listen closely. And it is so very nice to see the great Billy Higgins again, one of my favorite drummers of all time who was comfortable in and excelled in all sorts of settings from straight-ahead hard bop to the type of free jazz Ornette is laying down here.
bluv6 11 months ago
Wonderful. Thank you!
speedcore3000 11 months ago
Art was never meant for the masses; if you feel you don't understand this music you are probably part of the masses, unable to understand anything outside of pop culture. Its not necessarily your fault, which means there may be a chance for you to become a bit more open and able to understand art.
briancolejennifer 1 year ago
здорово! ))
poverhxxx 1 year ago
My interpratation of this guitarist's tuning: guitar is not playing "harmonies" for the soloist, but providing textures, rhythm, energy, and sounds. Therefore he can tune or detune it anyway it pleases him.
nobodady1 1 year ago
This is extremely funny and genial free-jazz, but in my opinion living music with all those drugs is completely pointless
pippoMASO 1 year ago
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africans can all be on a different beat but b going in the same direction
aaronamccoy 1 year ago
africans can all be on a different beat but b goin in the same direction
aaronamccoy 1 year ago
it was not ulmer on the album version, he doing good on this one am i wrong ?
trojanlol 1 year ago
One of the most vocal drum solos i've ever heard. Someone vote down the person who dissed radiohead, there is no need for that. I love ornette and radiohead, and norah jones is a good girl
barbrastreyesand 1 year ago
I personally like the sound of the guitar on this recording. I am so sick of "good" guitar players. There should be more slightly out of tune musicians. I am serious.
krkweb 1 year ago 6
1:40 zombie bass player ! And yes the guitar is out of tune you tards. Anyone who mistakes that as bing due to "complex dissonant chords" ought to give up all interest in music immediately.
PutItAway101 1 year ago
@PutItAway101 Agreed. But, perhaps they should work more on their ear training.... instead of just giving up. I would love to see this kind of music gain more popularity.
seekanddestroy001 1 year ago
As far as I can tell, he's playing the same riff for most of the video. WHAT A GENIUS GUISE
cholocharile 1 year ago
I WANT THAT SUIT!!
chonches 1 year ago
The guitar is not out of tune. He is playing complex, dissonant chords.
garygomesg 1 year ago
didn't he play a plastic sax?
he's brilliant
dubbedcrazy 1 year ago
i pledge allegiance to the jazz
Ornette nation
sleepdep 1 year ago
the very best music ever
boauni 1 year ago
You know, I sort of understood this music. Listen closely and you will hear the musicians improvising off of the original theme's motifs. Even the drummer during his solo does this.
The emperor is at least wearing some underwear.
SchmittyRKD 1 year ago
out from the stars...ornette
valentynesuite 1 year ago
bonjour et merci, jamais le jazz n'avait atteind une telle ingéniosité poétique et musicale, une fabuleuse conversation où l'humour le dispute à la tristesse du cirque humain, et merci encore
aultger 1 year ago
every member of the band seems to be playing a completely different tune hahahahahahahaha
onlyjoetee 1 year ago
cra-zee
evelyneverettgreen 1 year ago
Listen PIERTOMAS DELL'ERBA :-)
saxtommy 1 year ago
ornette is one of the greatest musicians of all time he knows what he's doing and so does mr. blood ulmer so fuck you guys saying shits out of tune.
DolphLundgrenix6909 1 year ago
I love this clip BECAUSE of the guitar. I love both OC and JBU. I wish they did even more work together.
StephaneVorstellung 1 year ago 2
maestro... nada mas queda por decir
pipedelic 1 year ago
James Ulmer is the man who connected the rough and high energied ancient bluesspirit with jazz and funk.
BuddyDog03 1 year ago
this tune is really dancing in my head. Fantastic piece. It's cheerful free-jazz and it's something rare ! Great
trojanlol 1 year ago 3
great!!!
606kwan 1 year ago
this is awesome
HamburgerMartyr 1 year ago
drugs
rockerdav 1 year ago
this mans a legend
326Ka 1 year ago
The guitaist is James Blood Ulmer, he's fantastic
gogorobo 1 year ago
The guitarist is James Blood Ulmer, he's brilliant.
gogorobo 1 year ago
phenomenal.
Who is the guitar player?
donjuanitaway 1 year ago
the part at 0:27 and 0:50, especially the whole section after :50 is some fuggin awesome guitar work. it's so spazzy and contorting. it comes back like a demon at 6:00 some the most satisfyingly complex and deconstructed guitar playing ive heard. fuck the haters
solargesture 1 year ago 3
I think the word is crucified bumzurvaj.
nickfenderuk 1 year ago
IS this improvisied or composed?
bumzurvaj 1 year ago
you guys are assholes..."edit out the guitar" and "out of tune"..its fukin free jazz, if u must name it..what it is daring, pushing the limits of form and structure. go back and listen to radiohead or nora jones
trufiend138 1 year ago 37
@trufiend138
ahahahahaha i feel u bro, haters gonna hate tho.
chepe371 1 year ago
@trufiend138 Yeah, I'm with you. I don't understand why someone would even bother listening to Ornette without relaxing their expectations for how ALL instruments are played. I don't want anyone to feel unwelcome but for Christ's sake there's plenty of conventionally-tuned guitars to listen to elsewhere on the tube.
StephaneVorstellung 1 year ago 2
@trufiend138 Hey, nothing wrong with Radiohead! Au contraire, mon frere! Norah Jones however, I agree ;)
NJlo 1 year ago
@trufiend138 Actually, the guitar does sound like it is out of tune. This may be intentional, or it is possible that I am not hearing it correctly. But it is not for lack of knowledge or appreciation of Ornette Coleman's music that I say this. Also, I cannot recall ever hearing an instrument sound out of tune on any of Coleman's records. It is most likely an error, although it might be intentional. But why do you believe people who think that are assholes? Is it beyond the realm of possibility?
briteness 1 year ago
@briteness
so your telling me if u ehard this exact smae performance back when it was happening, live, you would leave the club because you THOUGHT the guitar was out of tune?
Me for example, cant stand to hear Christina aguliera despite everyone's assurance that, "she can sing"..it sounds like crap to me, so I dont listen but im not gonnna say she is out of tune!
trufiend138 1 year ago
@trufiend138 Where did I say anything about leaving the club because the guitar was out of tune? How is it that you read that? Do you think I am incapable of saying whether or not the guitar was out of tune? Unless there is something very distorted about the recording we have, the guitar was out of tune. Whether it was intentional or not is an open question. I have played guitar for 25 years and can say that much. Also, whether or not you like Aguilera (I don't), she can sing in tune.
briteness 1 year ago
@trufiend138 no, you're an asshole, a stupid asshole at that. You stooped down to the exact same level, commenting on bands that you have no idea or any fucking clue of how hard it is to come up with a style, a sound, etc. please, fucking enlighten us, show us your amazing compositions, your magazines with your personal critique. lets see your credentials on your album and artist critiquing. you're a fucking jackass fuck you you fucking piece of horse shit. By the way, this is a great tune.
iunnodiapeys 11 months ago
@iunnodiapeys you dont know shit about music, cock slut...go back and listen to justin beiber and Christina aguliera
trufiend138 11 months ago
@trufiend138 you're totally right, the guitar sounds perfectly in tune with the sax, it's obvious that whatever detuning, if any, it was intentional and sensational at that. i believe this to be some of the coolest guitar playing ive heard. anyone who states how long theyve been playing guitar then says the guitar might be out of tune as if it's a bad thing should stop playing guitar
solargesture 8 months ago 2
@trufiend138 lol radiohead...
ardotadot 5 months ago
@trufiend138 Um are you sure you want to refer to "Radiohead" and imply that it's a shallow or popish band? I like this Jazz to, it has a beautiful chaotic feel to it, but if I where you I'd take a listen to some Radiohead.
10094926 4 months ago
@10094926 ive heard plenty radiohead, like everyone else of this generation even ad a radio-phase...my point is there music is far more comprehensible, commercial, you can tap a foot to it..THIS music is not meant to be!!
trufiend138 4 months ago
@trufiend138 free jazz is not just about pushing the limits, sure it's daring but there's also a lot of heart in the musicianship and instrumentation, not to mention the beautiful avant garde jazz cool aspect of it
BennyGaberMusic 4 months ago
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relax everybody. I just killed the guitar player.
Funny, even his dying screams were terrible.
ajsara76 1 year ago
@ajsara76
thanks i can sleep tonight.
maaya111mk 1 year ago
The guitar is great, it feels!
garantuan 1 year ago 2
what the fuck is going on with the guitar
jtfles 1 year ago
catalepsy?????
gargantua 1 year ago
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Cool...I really wish the guitar was completely edited out
starsandnobodys 1 year ago
one of the best things that happen in my life
maxigoodvibes 1 year ago 2
ORNETTE COLEMAN IS GOD
ObamaBinLaden35 2 years ago
great stuff much love to Coleman
SopranoSaxBoss 2 years ago
it is so cool when ornette's neck bulges out when he blows
nepalnt21 2 years ago 2
Higgins rules
bigwhitesugar 2 years ago
Sirone is tripping! Awesome!
jpmteixeira 2 years ago
se vuoi viaggiare con la mente ed uscire di strada vedi contemporaneamente questo video e "lupetto without prejudice" è puro free
convinzioneobastone 2 years ago
??? This is not even a difficult piece. Those who can't listen to this are better off listening to Ray Coniff. LOL
AndreKugland 2 years ago
Love the story of Ornette first appearing on the scene playing a plastic sax (see artwork for 'Shape of Jazz' lp) Established musicians used to tease him by asking if was filled with candy.
keltyk 2 years ago
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Why is everything out of tune
DJPsionix 2 years ago
freejazz
Raczkis 2 years ago
it's just you.....go to kenny g and u will get something u will cherish for years to come------ornette is not for u little guy-----hop on the ones and twos G
rasjvon 2 years ago
this is " dancing in your head "
riffraff6259 2 years ago 3
this sounds like a joke, pure genius
brokeandhungryxx 2 years ago
Now I know where bands like Matching Mole, Etron Fou Lelouban and Henry Cow got their style! I just thought those guys made it all up. Here's the source.
shroomangel 2 years ago 5
@shroomangel True Brother- Love Dave Stewart, Pip Pyle, Mont Campbell, EGG, Hatfield and the North et.al-- I too, think they cut their teeth on this. Ornette is from my Hometown..Ft. Worth,TX. My brother and I still play like this...or try to play like this.....
sitarnut 4 months ago
We mock what we dont understand!
jaydeejazzone 2 years ago
haha!!! everyone else in the band is on dope! how amazing this session must have felt like sober, not to mention on good ol' H! this stuff is out there, in an amazing way! fuck all the naysayers! harmolodics and heroin! makes for a good evenin'.
spockcarolla 2 years ago
lmao . funny.
BlackGypsyMusic 2 years ago
@spockcarolla opiates are nice and they feel good but i got a question
how long has it been since you took a shit
mbera11 1 year ago
looks more like 64,not 74!!! is it???
rorroverde1 2 years ago
I suppose they are good musicians, at least 3 of them; that is, they could play (more traditionalk jazz) well, but they just didn't want. Nice.
konstkaras 2 years ago
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floamcore 2 years ago
Each to his own taste. I love this.
NeuMasterful 2 years ago
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Can anyone put their hand on their heart and say they have listened to this all the way through?
incongra 2 years ago
I did. I'm still trying to "get" jazz, as I realize that all the people playing on this clip are immensely talented, but as of yet, no luck. There is something to be said for composed music, in the same way as there is something to be said for building a house from a blueprint.
Anglagard1 2 years ago
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Yeah but it's like the story of "the emperor's new clothes". They are all IMENSELY talented but all it would take would be for a 10 year old kid at the back of the room to stand up and point out that they are, in fact, just playing a load of rubbish.
incongra 2 years ago
I don't let 10 year old kids dictate my taste in music.
BlackMonk66 2 years ago 20
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incongra 2 years ago
@BlackMonk66 Don't have a fit, i was just expressing my thoughts there and then. Music is cool enough. i was just remarking that it was a bit dissonant. and btw. i'm not 10... wow, impressive.
friele80 1 year ago
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@friele80 I wasn't responding to you. When I posted that-a year ago- I was responding to "all it would take would be for a 10 year old kid at the back of the room to stand up and point out that they are, in fact, just playing a load of rubbish." Given that comment, "I don't let 10 year old kids dictate my taste in music" is a perfectly appropriate response.
BlackMonk66 1 year ago
reply to Anglagard- I'm an artist, not a musician, but have some kind of an ear, by extension of creative instinct. My view is Free-jazz is difficult and a matter of taste- but to 'get' jazz there's almost a century's worth of recordings from easy to like ragtime and trad over to horrible avant-garde noise. Sublime and easier to 'get' would be Kind of Blue by Miles Davis- lots of stuff by Chet Baker, Stan Getz, Art Blakey. Slightly more challenging- Charles Mingus
keltyk 2 years ago
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Genius!!!!!
5 stars!
redSuikoden 2 years ago
what is this song called?
slumdog519 2 years ago
its called dancing in your head.
jorytindall 2 years ago
fred friths guitar playing on his album gravity (1980) - when he plays with the muffins i- s so influenced by blood ulmer. this is great stuff.
blefusku 2 years ago 2
those guitar chords are crazy xD!!
mayorde18 2 years ago
I was that night in Rome in the fantastic little club named Music Inn created by great Conte Pepito Pignatelli the first in Rome We was only 30 40 people in all Rome very avanguard
convinzioneobastone 2 years ago
Io c'ero quella sera al Music Inn mitico locale del Conte Pepito Pignatelli eravamo non più di 30 40 persone in tutta Roma, io e i miei compagni di scuola venivamo da Ostia e tornammo a piedi fino alla stazione per il notturno
convinzioneobastone 2 years ago
didn't know ulmer played with ornette Oo. One of my favorite coleman's tune ;)
trojanlol 2 years ago
What chords is he playing during the collective improv part? More importantly: does it matter? I'm genuinely curious.
franco6719 2 years ago
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Wtf? as a guitar plyr i am embarassed. taken alone each player could have been making a valid musical statement, but not the gtr. never really heard ulmer bfor but jeez , awful.
kirkrapport 2 years ago
and you never really heard of harmolodics i guess
blefusku 2 years ago
is ulmer´s guitar a litle out of tune?
vulvatronic 2 years ago
isn't it due to the distorsion ? Or maybe he wanted it. Sounds good to me anyway. I wish I could see the cords he's playing. Really nice chords. I'd really enjoy to be able to play this way
trojanlol 2 years ago
my first thought was 'my lord yes, he's always out of tune' and you know, he is. but if you listen to it twice and just kinda nudge your brain a bit to the left, it makes sense. its more about relative pitch, dynamics, tension, release. but yes, those are not the pure tones of western music we are accustomed too.
gomachols 2 years ago 2
Thou shalt hold sweet Coleman wrappers.
Bukamura 2 years ago
Another thing...I was into jazz as a little kid, and so quickly progressed into listening to Coleman.
I was a teenager working in a record store in 1976 when I heard about the upcoming release of "Dancing in your Head" on Horizon - Ornette was going electric on record! I was literally counting the days until this came out. Then, one day, the store manager pulled out a copy. After the store closed for the night, we put it on over the store speaker system. It totally blew my head off!
burdinus 2 years ago
Very early Prime Time stuff...very interesting! "Theme from a Symphony", originally from the germination of "Skies of America".
Who's in this group? I'm trying to identify them as I watch this...it sounds like Blood Ulmer on guitar - he was Ornette's earliest Prime Time guitar player, I'm guessing Sirone from the Revs is on bass...it's Billy Higgins on drums, but I didn't recognize his playing until the drum break.
Thanks for posting this!
burdinus 2 years ago
thank you! i really like this :)
willmunroe 2 years ago
This is good stuff. First time I heard Coleman I was rocking in my seat and I felt like standing up and jumping up and down with excitement. The energy in his music is amazing.
I hear his influence all over the place, in lots of different genres: Kraut rock, No-Wave, Noise rock, to name just a few. But obviously his main influence was in pioneering Free Jazz. Who cares about genres though, the important thing is that his music is AMAZING.
NeoDjang 3 years ago
truth in music says..you gots to love Coleman>>he definately had another channel on his TV set!
chriscorso1 3 years ago
i think this is avant garde.
aidenmnuroff 3 years ago
and the song is Theme from a Symphony from Dancing in Your Head
boygirl8b 3 years ago 2
haha Ornette is sick. his band is all on a shitload of dope though, but it's amusing. Blood needs to tune up and turn down....
boygirl8b 3 years ago
To all who make comparisons with other jazz musicians: Ornette doesn't play jazz. OK? He calls his musical theory harmolodics. Stop talking if you don't know shit about him.
And why do some people feel the need to coin terms on everything, or group everything together? Take it for what it is, dipshits! If you don't like it.... don't listen
rootpepper 3 years ago
bird duke miles coltrane basie ayler sun ra webster and so on and ornette . they've all
got one thing in common , they're geniuses !
all other talk is bullshit .
Jorisman 3 years ago
Pointless arguements over the nature of free jazz... ON THE INTERNET! Just when i thought it couldnt get any sadder
TheIkaraCult 3 years ago
I was reading some of the comments left by viewers. Those of you that do not feel this style of Jazz, you have to realize that the point of Free Jazz is to be "non-conforming." This style is not supposed to fit in the parameter of Coltrane, Parker, Davis, Rollins or the other kats from Bebop and Rebop. You take each musician as their own style and appreciate it for that. In my opinion, Coleman is not overrated at all, he is an extremely tight kat and is the leader of the Free Jazz arena...
Urology707 3 years ago
I disagree with the previous comment
catgumart 3 years ago
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If you compare this to Charlie Parker live stuff or unofficial recordings in the forties, or if you compare this to the big band stuff back then: Ellington, Basie, Dorsey brothers, Miller, etc. etc.; this stuff sucks. Ornette is one of the most overrated jazz musicians alive. Man, all I hear are drugs! The best stuff was all before 1950, unless were talking about guys like Miles Davis, Rollins, and Roach etc. And Ornette would agree with me. Ornette is nothing compared to BIRD. Listen and learn.
willsells 3 years ago
correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Ornette has ever done drugs.
postmeback 3 years ago
I really fee sorry for you dude. And I don't think you really appreciate jazz.....
eet73 3 years ago
Thanks for setting all of us straight. I foolishly thought I enjoyed Ornette's music, plus hundreds of other jazz musicians from past 60 years, until you showed me the error of my ways! Thanks again.
HoytWClagwell 3 years ago
@willsells 1950? Louis Armstrong hated bebop when it first came out. He said it sounded like "Chinese music." Stop pretending to be a moldy fig.
pjustusxi 7 months ago
That drummer's like..You ain't dancein' in MY head Ornette..haHA
TakenForAFool 3 years ago
the guitarist sucks... thats the thing with the ornette stuff with a guitar player - they are always sort of shit in my opinion - exception: james blood ulmer's tales of captain black obviously.
plutoohno 3 years ago
the guitar sounds out of tune, this session must have been like a miserable downer for the whole gang. except for the guitarist that might have lost his hearing temporarily.
friele80 3 years ago
I think it is on purpose. Or do you think these guys wouldn't notice it?!?
Also, personaly i like it, it gives a nice sense of discomfort troughout, if you know what i mean.
Althow i agree that, for accompaniment, the guitar is too loud.
NMandasEmMIm 3 years ago
I agree with you I dont think they were looking for a perfect conventional tone quality, I think they were trying to move away from all the stuff before(20's-60's) and create new sounds, I like the off kilter feeling that comes from not haveing everything in exact balance, I like the old stuf and this as well, if they are off pitch a bit I think it is on purpose, you know makeing use of quartertones, and pitches that dont fallexactly within standard tunning etc..
catgumart 3 years ago 2
@friele80 ummm it's Blood Ulmer kiddo.. a miserable downer? Can't you see them really digging this?
BennyGaberMusic 1 year ago
the guitar sounds a bit loud when he's comping, I'm a guitar player myself so I don't mind, but generally when your comping your supporting the soloist, not standing out
MaximusDowns 3 years ago
well, seeing as ornette's whole concept was about the liberation of 'sidemen' and the equality of all group members, perhaps you might want to rethink that view
postmeback 3 years ago
I don't think Ulmer is playing accompaniment as much as he is another voice in dialogue with the sax.
BlackMonk66 2 years ago
When this album came out I played this song over and over. Loved it. Still do. Audio isn't great on this video though, but it's cool seeing Ornette, Higgins, Ulmer and Sirone.
ipings 3 years ago
is there any more of this performance?
eriktheviking2006 3 years ago
Man, auf welchem Trip ist eigentlich Sirone? Da war doch kein Heroin mit im Spiel? Na wenn schon, WAHNSINNSMUCKE. Und die ganze Atmosphäre, whow!!!
tomersigel 3 years ago
To me, Ornette coleman is sometimes very funny, sometimes very evil, sometimes just talking into a saxophone.
murdechoc 3 years ago 10
WICKED description!!! Works for me....I didn't HAVE a very sturdy image of Ornette Coleman before...I THINK..I shall be adopting yours..for the time being..many many thanks!
TakenForAFool 3 years ago
Albert Ayler
loftymercury 3 years ago
b-side w/ shut the fuck up and listen
jazzm 3 years ago
everyone shut the fuck up and listen
jazzm 3 years ago
sonikitty: but surely you're not telling me what my reaction to OC should be, no matter what it is..that's totally against the idea of avant garde & free jazz. If you are telling me that, then you must be a jazz nazi posing as a libertine... I hope not
kevinherbert 3 years ago
sonikitty: So really what you're saying that it's comedy jazz..it's meant to make us laugh.'co that's my reaction to it
kevinherbert 3 years ago
Im seening Ornette in a month!!
HolyHansemandse 3 years ago
grande pezzo !!!
bonco91 3 years ago
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You aren't going to tell this shit is real music, right?
geistsieg 3 years ago
it's certainly "real music."
kevinm4435 3 years ago
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It's ASS.
k651 3 years ago
Free Jazz/Avant-Garde, look those terms up.
frontosa6 3 years ago
caro melantorio , tu e tuti quelli come te fate credere ke il free jazz sia da buttar via , "stuppati" l'orekki.
MacroDr 3 years ago
Delightfully squeaky and discordant. Long live Ornette Coleman!
v1m 3 years ago
lsd anyone?
glennmiller2005 3 years ago
There is a beautiful ironic-ugly texture in the guitar comping. The theme at saxophone is not tuned with guitar and the beauty is in that. It's very strange and humoristic. It can also scary.
murdechoc 3 years ago 3
interesting comment
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maor230 3 years ago
O o muy buena musica !
psytziquinche 3 years ago
so much emotional content!!!
maggotbrain342 3 years ago