It's freakin' surprising what diverse opinions you hear from celebs sometimes, and mis-interpreted as well. Baa-ab Dylan was a good example. But what really blows me away these days, is hearing all of the "Chuck Norris is so awesome...." jokes but not a single one of them even hints at what a Christo-fascist he is. It's like his publicist spammed us with this shit so people would keep sending him money for ... Gawd knows, the fucking Contras in all probability. If Bono can be a cunt, so can Jaz.
And yeah, you're probably right, I just don't want to think the worst of one of my favourite musicians. Certainly more as a vocalist than a lyricist, in any case. But I often overlook what an arrogant prick he can be at times, as can we all. But it's often necessary, to spark debate and free thought, to "play devil's advocate" in a sense, as to say "The Nazi's had a better system." doesn't always endorse fascism, it can be a condemnation of the rampant fascism of the commonwealth post-colonies.
Zionism is, at least in practice (ignoring for the moment what sorts of sweet sentimental notions espoused) a theocratic fascist philosophy. Just as Christianity is a religion of love AND of hate. Depending on interpretation, either or both. Yet in practice for much of it's history was practiced in it's hateful form. Zionism is centered around a land grab dictated by a thousands year old religious text. Why we see Zionists as better than any other terror group is because of our oil interests.
@SoyBoySigh love the attempt at "clever conversation".. what really matters is, is that you go to e-bay, and bid on my grandmothers 1906 wooden dildo....that would make me think you've got life figured out...still smells like her...what a woman..
I hope they don't break up this current line up and put out a string of new albums...we need some sort of reinvention of music right now and something like this that sounds clubbish and rock - something that could easily be played in a club and people would dig it - is the sort of music that should be pushed right through the front door...
Instead of creating your own tortured interpretation's of the songs meaning, you might want to look up KJ interviews on the subject- Jaz is very, very, pro-EU. This song is not said with irony. Ffs, he was the composer-in-residence for the EU a couple of years ago...
As much as I love KJ's music, Jaz is a pompous windbag who loves to prophesize, yet every time he does, he ends up looking like an idiot(and a pompous windbag, of course..).
I am told, by a friend who would know, that when it comes to body doubling murder, it is a matter of numbers, rather than formula or formations: if you outnumber those you are attacking even by one, at least one of you will be left at the end, if it involves body doubling. Then it may depend on the logistical support from neighbouring formulae and regions as to whether or not any real advance has been secured, or simply another group lured to a place where you would no longer simply body double.
I think also that the appellation "descendants of Plato" doesn't apply to all Europeans, hence this line refers to Greece's application to the E.U., and the economic sanctions applied against Greece by European economic power-houses such as Germany. One has to remember also that NATO, though satisfying US interests, isn't only America. It's France, UK, Germany, etc. Hence the NATO domination of the EU is what's being referred to here. The song's tone is ironic, pro EU yet hinting at EU faults.
The notion that a K.J.'s song would endorse an "Empire", or that "civilizing force" can be looked upon favourably in the full light of European global history, or that anything that "Demands Respect" is in any way deserving of respect, well I guess if that's how you interpret the song then you ought to re-evaluate more than just this song. Are there other moralities than Judao-Christian? Intellect other than Greco-Roman? Debate "required" isn't free debate. Makes you think how we were raised....
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY in fact you call european state a fascist state, in fact you may not even realize it's infected by zionism, and zionism is far from fascism, letting all the cultures and races mixing in the same territory , you know "divide et impera" ? do some searches
so go away with your stupid comments . and use words well when it's needed
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY It is actually. It's against NATO sovereignty and for the revaluation of Europe. As it says here: "Why are the proud descendants of Plato paying off more debts accomodating NATO? We the caretakers of democracy no longer tolerate this hypocrisy." So yeah it's very pro-Europe.
@Zscheesus social democracy is a system whereby capitalist mode of economic production is maintained BUT attempts are made to mitigate the adverse effects of capitalism, generally.
SD is not socialism nor communism, it's not a revolutionary doctrine. Maybe Norway, Denmark, and Sweden are examples of social democracies in the European Super state wooh ho lol
This song made me think of British Fascist Sir Oswald Mosley's post- WWII push for a united Europe - so I went and looked it up. It makes the song that much more appropriate, in my opinion.
@ModerateMartian Well you wouldn't ask people to have a say in the matter if they didn't want their garbage to be exposed of, do you? Its their job to make decisions.. And sure, they are politicians, they will make the wrong ones.. But he, what else is new? If we want to keep on spreading the way we do things, like we have for hundreds of years, we need to form a block.. And if we don't like the way our ' leaders' are doing it, we go to the streets, we just change it.. This is Europe m8!
The fact of the matter is that even our current mess, and bad leadership, the EU is THE most exciting political project in the history of the world.
There are plans for a EU Army, EU Navy, EU Air Force, there's already a EU intelligence agency, EU foreign depart., EU embassies, EU Police Force, EU Courts, EU judges, EU constitution, and last but not least; a EU LANGUAGE!
The EU is actually working on bringing back the Latin language, which has been dead the last 1400 years!
@tjobv Have you ever travelled outside Europe? Do you believe it's a Utopia? Or are you saying that your views represent an ignorant, uneducated, right-wing elite and jack-boot police state? An EU police force is a dream? Are you serious? Quite amusing that Coleman actually believes that his audience is more self-aware and possess a higher consciousness than the average Motley Crue fan judging by mindless, bigoted remarks like these....
If somebody's comparing this to Outside The Gate then fine. I LOVE Outside the Gate. And also I love the angrier records. Well.... I just love killing joke.
Love Killing Joke. Not their best album but a good album in my opinion. Fuck off if you don't like. KJ have always been more diversed than some idiots think or like. KJ always makes a point and has great riffs with balls! Refused to be limited.
Alright, calm down, calm down. Europe and Canada are both exceptional places to live for a variety of reasons, and both Europeans and Canadians enjoy a standard of living that should cause Americans to be ashamed of themselves. Since this song is all about the promise of a new European Age, neither Canadians nor Europeans, who are more alike in many ways than they are to Americans, should have a single reason to bicker amongst one another when the future holds nothing but promise for both.
This should be the anthem of Europe. French food, german infrastructure, italian climate, greek monuments, spanish football team, scandinavian healthcare and polish girls. Is there a better land to live under the sun?
@mikapromotesobesity Are you mad because you live in a shit country? Canada destroys every country on the planet. Blocked, so I don't have to waste my time with you anymore, child.
@Feuyaer "Are you mad because you live in a shit country? No, I don't live in canadia. I am European, something that you want to be. canda and Europe are not tied. canda is just a shit country, even america is better than canda.
KJ mentioned in new book With Cold Hearts. Cover features title of one of their earliest songs, You're Being Followed. Rough-edged (and sinister) Youtube trailer can be seen here:
If you like Killing Joke and a good story, you might like new mystery crime thriller called With Cold Hearts by David Hurst, trailer is on Youtube.
/watch?v=JLZY-CKoPMA
It mentions KJ. Also features a Goth murder suspect! Unique take on the crime mystery story by an obvious KJ fan. Anyone know any other novels mentioning KJ?
Killing Joke: European Super State 'I'm a Judeo-Christian morality with a Greco-Roman intellect It's the way we're short-wired ...It's a civilising force that demands respect -from the Baltic to the Straits of Gibraltar A blue flag gold star sparks a brand new empire Ours to build, ours the choice I'm in a European Super State Every citizen required to debate!
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY Fuck me, lyrically the polar opposite of "Empire Song"`! Perhaps Coleman wants to be knighted by the Queen now as he's already been decorated by the French. But then again that was by the same body who knighted Kylie Minogue (!) and therefore speaks volumes I suppose :)
I still can't get around this new KJ release. It's. . .weird, for KJ I mean. It feels like going all over again through the Outside The Gates incident (basically speaking), don't know why.
@hellchild65 In fact I also think that it's the worst album since Outside the Gate. It reminds me of lame 80's mainstream pop. This is nowhere near the quality of previous four albums (so it can't be all Youth's fault). To me there is a total lack of aggression here and I can't feel the mysticism that some of you guys want to have discovered. But who am I to judge on that - I couldn't even feel the magic of "The Courtauld Talks" ;-) hahaha!
@ChameleonsFan It sounds nothing like anything from the 80's imo, or that crap outside the gate. and sure the album isnt as aggressive as past one's but you do realize that these are 50 year old guys who have haven't wrote music with each other since the early 80's, they are not going top be constantly angry, plus its nice to hear Jaz sing again, not that I disliked his heavy vocals (they sound better then a large number of modern metal bands). lol also i dont think anyone like Courtauld Talks
@hellchild65 Well, they haven't written music with each other since the mid 90s. Youth was on board when they did Pandemonium (1994), which I liked a lot at that time, even though I think that the following three albums were even stronger. (though I didn't pay much attention to Democracy when it came out). What I found absolutely fascinating with the previous two albums: With growing age they seemed to become even angrier. Quite understandabIy the new album reflects grief and disorientation.
@Nikkrazz It's pretty much the same but the music got more industrial on this record;reminds me a lot of a blend between KMFDM and Depeche Mode,very good stuff though they haven't really lost it
@Jimcus Im not that into DM but theyve done some great stuff over the years-so for a bunch of 50 year old geezers to sound like a bunch of hungry teenagers from Basildon dreaming of world domination-thats a GOOD thing No??? This song fucking kicks arse and the lyrics man...thids band is so fucking NOW!
Some people here seem to think that they have the right to tell other people what they should like. I think that is very arrogant. I am the biggest fan ever but in my opinion KJ have reached their creative peak with the most amazing album ever recorded by anyone "extremities, dirt & various repressed emotions". "Democracy" and "Pandemonium" were still awesome but after that it seemed like they have been struggling a bit. It is to soon to say anything but this album is not growing on me as yet.
Want to hear what "European Super State" sounds like if you stand right in front of Geordie Walker and his guitar amps during a live Killing Joke show? Check out the video response on this thread: aka: "KILLING JOKE play European Super State in Prague, October 4, 2010."
Want to hear what "European Super State" sounds like if you stand right in front of Geordie Walker and his guitar amps during a live Killing Joke show? Check out the video response on this thread: aka: "KILLING JOKE play European Super State in Prague, October 4, 2010."
Saw KJ live last wednesday. HOLY SHIT. It was fucking insane, new album songs on it. I couldn't stop fucking moving to it the whole night. Go and see them!
Aye, lefterovits, it's so late now and so past the point we could actually do anything about the particular political situation that 'European Super State' refers to, we are left with nothing to do but dance! Though why don't we all make it a point to act on those bits we can still influence, eh? Great song, couldn't be better. Saw a fellow in his fancy convertible blasting it on the street the other day, gave him the thumbs up. The obvious contradiction aside...
The background atmospheric stuff reminds me of a recent Dark Ambient song that's been played on the radio in Estonia (@ Power Hit Radio), which lead me to believe that this atmospheric background was borrowed from somewhere, but I'd like to know from where/whom.
@iralien Beh fino al vinile non sono così masochista, anche se per la verità lo attaccherei al muro, avessi lo spazio, ne attaccherei un migliaio di copertine!!!! I libretti dei cd sono tristi, ma gli mp3 sono la negazione assoluta! Generazione di tutto-facile!
Six videos of Killing Joke live in Prague, Oct. 4, 2010 on my youtube channel -- including In Excelsis, This World Hell, Madness, Requiem, The Wait, and Fall of Because. I gather if you're worthy you'll enjoy!
Hell yeah windmoveswater....different beast surfaces....this is beyond human....who would think this is KJ....simply genius as usual....NYC December!!!!!
@kingofpunk1977 I've noticed that in this and several other KJ posts you either refer to Jaz Coleman's anus or some form of 'bumlicking'. It seems to be a high area of focus for you. Maybe you have an illness. Also, 31 years KJ fan and proud so you can kiss my arse if you like as its clearly something you're interested in; along with, I expect, lots of other forms of self joy administered to yourself while you sit alone in your sick deluded fantasy world.
a very psychedelic sequence. Jaz's vocal melody is an extreme feeling of fuzziness and loss, portraying an uncertain future. They played it live in Thessaloniki, Greece, the guitars were far more ahead than here. I liked the live version better and we danced a lot
Ah, well, DoctorXeno, I regret my mistake if so. But as KJ have always been into self-reliance and extreme distrust of everything sanctioned by the mass corporate-derived and/or state-derived human id (well, the sort of id not expressed in, say, 'Tabazan' and 'Lust Almighty'), I assumed. 'Every citizen required to defend" is in the lyric. and that doesn't sound particularly Jaz-ish.
But I been wrong before this. Er, one more thing... is this KJ track its own Orb remix? Ha ha.
hold the psy trance down... no euro revival thanks... it could be... but if... will than be dead... i guess youth did experiment with the israelii sun dancers... miss pauls selfconfidens as when the sun goes down... what a beast... black romantic... not like head bangers balls... yes jaz lol eternal message last until it ends
This tune is a machine. Should we be afraid of the European Super State? (I think most folks call it the EU, but let the lads have their head, eh). More often than not, when great powers get cash-strapped, they start wars. Got to pay for the police to keep the union demonstrators and the anarchists down, don't we? Good old Jaz and Paul and Geordie and Youth, always making it a point to make sure wehave plenty to be F'ing terrified of. Killer.
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Christ, what happened to Killing Joke?
jimmybob12 1 month ago
Christ, what happened to Killing Joke?
jimmybob12 1 month ago
What lies behind the cross!?
Lieu3C4 2 months ago
@Lieu3C4 no lies behind the cross. be blessed! =)
ASellerofPurple 1 month ago
and then n i n beginning of the end then the great cull then im off
dregs1983 2 months ago
an inside rush of the body
BenBadisable 3 months ago
what a tune - great that youth back with the and you can really hear his influnec - check out my review
classicrocker987 3 months ago
come to Berlin again and play 2 different shows......in 2 days maybe 3 :-),great band,great albums,great influences-Cheers
chamsiin01 3 months ago
Ours to build, ours the choice...
ArthurWar16 3 months ago
It's freakin' surprising what diverse opinions you hear from celebs sometimes, and mis-interpreted as well. Baa-ab Dylan was a good example. But what really blows me away these days, is hearing all of the "Chuck Norris is so awesome...." jokes but not a single one of them even hints at what a Christo-fascist he is. It's like his publicist spammed us with this shit so people would keep sending him money for ... Gawd knows, the fucking Contras in all probability. If Bono can be a cunt, so can Jaz.
SoyBoySigh 3 months ago
And yeah, you're probably right, I just don't want to think the worst of one of my favourite musicians. Certainly more as a vocalist than a lyricist, in any case. But I often overlook what an arrogant prick he can be at times, as can we all. But it's often necessary, to spark debate and free thought, to "play devil's advocate" in a sense, as to say "The Nazi's had a better system." doesn't always endorse fascism, it can be a condemnation of the rampant fascism of the commonwealth post-colonies.
SoyBoySigh 3 months ago
Zionism is, at least in practice (ignoring for the moment what sorts of sweet sentimental notions espoused) a theocratic fascist philosophy. Just as Christianity is a religion of love AND of hate. Depending on interpretation, either or both. Yet in practice for much of it's history was practiced in it's hateful form. Zionism is centered around a land grab dictated by a thousands year old religious text. Why we see Zionists as better than any other terror group is because of our oil interests.
SoyBoySigh 3 months ago
@SoyBoySigh love the attempt at "clever conversation".. what really matters is, is that you go to e-bay, and bid on my grandmothers 1906 wooden dildo....that would make me think you've got life figured out...still smells like her...what a woman..
jodonte1 1 month ago
@jodonte1 whaaat
pascal12310 1 month ago
Love this song. Love the band. Very appropriate given today's mess ;)
harvs74 4 months ago 8
the anger is uncomparible .there is a REASON
dregs1983 4 months ago
fuck the EE
KlaritzisKaiPaoktzis 4 months ago
znakomity utwór, przeciera szlaki, zespół wszech czasów!
crazyjoke69 4 months ago
I hope they don't break up this current line up and put out a string of new albums...we need some sort of reinvention of music right now and something like this that sounds clubbish and rock - something that could easily be played in a club and people would dig it - is the sort of music that should be pushed right through the front door...
HorleHusky 5 months ago
@HorleHusky this IS the line up original and best
dregs1983 4 months ago
Soyboysigh,
Instead of creating your own tortured interpretation's of the songs meaning, you might want to look up KJ interviews on the subject- Jaz is very, very, pro-EU. This song is not said with irony. Ffs, he was the composer-in-residence for the EU a couple of years ago...
As much as I love KJ's music, Jaz is a pompous windbag who loves to prophesize, yet every time he does, he ends up looking like an idiot(and a pompous windbag, of course..).
thatnamesorryhas 5 months ago
@thatnamesorryhas sometruthinwhatyousaythoughKJarestilagreabandandthistunecouldbetakenasa commentoncurrentcircumstances
kernott11 5 months ago
to agapw!
emilygri 5 months ago
I love this track
killingjoke11038 6 months ago
EUahstan!!!!!!!!!!! Hah hahhahhahhahahahah an you did not even see it coming.........like duh!!!
awellfedbottomfeeder 6 months ago
They are so great!
Intruz01 6 months ago
@SlavicFront88-
took EU Law at university, the EU is one of the most un-democractic organizations in the world, especially the European Commission
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 6 months ago 9
Why are the proud descendants of Plato
paying off more debts accommodating NATO?
We the caretakers of democracy no longer
tolerate this hypocrisy..
DacianWolf1 6 months ago 3
read and study Jaz's lyrics, COMPHILO has followed them for years. Jaz IS a lefty, an anti-capitalist
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 6 months ago
I am told, by a friend who would know, that when it comes to body doubling murder, it is a matter of numbers, rather than formula or formations: if you outnumber those you are attacking even by one, at least one of you will be left at the end, if it involves body doubling. Then it may depend on the logistical support from neighbouring formulae and regions as to whether or not any real advance has been secured, or simply another group lured to a place where you would no longer simply body double.
Lieu3C4 6 months ago
I think also that the appellation "descendants of Plato" doesn't apply to all Europeans, hence this line refers to Greece's application to the E.U., and the economic sanctions applied against Greece by European economic power-houses such as Germany. One has to remember also that NATO, though satisfying US interests, isn't only America. It's France, UK, Germany, etc. Hence the NATO domination of the EU is what's being referred to here. The song's tone is ironic, pro EU yet hinting at EU faults.
SoyBoySigh 7 months ago
The notion that a K.J.'s song would endorse an "Empire", or that "civilizing force" can be looked upon favourably in the full light of European global history, or that anything that "Demands Respect" is in any way deserving of respect, well I guess if that's how you interpret the song then you ought to re-evaluate more than just this song. Are there other moralities than Judao-Christian? Intellect other than Greco-Roman? Debate "required" isn't free debate. Makes you think how we were raised....
SoyBoySigh 7 months ago
European Super Fascist State
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 7 months ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY That's what europe needs.
SlavicFront88 7 months ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY in fact you call european state a fascist state, in fact you may not even realize it's infected by zionism, and zionism is far from fascism, letting all the cultures and races mixing in the same territory , you know "divide et impera" ? do some searches
so go away with your stupid comments . and use words well when it's needed
HelliosArgaion 5 months ago
@Zscheesus what do you think this track is about, can you not understand the lyrics? You think it's pro-Europe? lol
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 7 months ago
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY It is actually. It's against NATO sovereignty and for the revaluation of Europe. As it says here: "Why are the proud descendants of Plato paying off more debts accomodating NATO? We the caretakers of democracy no longer tolerate this hypocrisy." So yeah it's very pro-Europe.
THEMANOUTOFTHECAVE 7 months ago
European Super-state, Epic demise of "care-taker" fascist empire
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 7 months ago
heralding the demise of Europe and NATO
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 7 months ago
This band is still damn good after all these years!
hobbit151 7 months ago
@Zscheesus you already have achieved that lol you are God become animal.
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 7 months ago
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@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY Animals do not exist.
gazz12345a 7 months ago
@CentralScrutinizerxx thats too kind. Torture should precede your death
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 7 months ago
The very beginning makes me thing of blade runner or deus ex.
This song kicks my arse
MadcapMan 7 months ago
Death to the EU and NATO
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 7 months ago
Ale jazda.Ja pitolę!Pozdrowienia from Poland.
sympatyk2011 7 months ago
Europe tries to find a death worthy of its past.
Try to be free, you will die of hunger.
domdieudo 8 months ago
rock'n roll!
AlizarineTV 8 months ago
@Zscheesus social democracy is a system whereby capitalist mode of economic production is maintained BUT attempts are made to mitigate the adverse effects of capitalism, generally.
SD is not socialism nor communism, it's not a revolutionary doctrine. Maybe Norway, Denmark, and Sweden are examples of social democracies in the European Super state wooh ho lol
own definition derived partly from Wiki
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 8 months ago
Killing Joke the extraordinairy
pakruy 8 months ago
I don't get the point with the lyrics.
Jaz has been quite unfocused since – about – 2004. I have to listen the other songs. "Hosannas" was the peak of their low, in terms of lyrics.
tht707 8 months ago
It reminds me "Aeon" from the "Democracy" album. I really like it.
superbastardo 8 months ago
drugs
CONSIDERABLYMORE1 8 months ago
@Zscheesus Part of me wants to live in Europe.. Then again I'm not a fan of Socialism
MetalLabStudios 8 months ago
@MetalLabStudios Part of me also wants to live in Europe too... Then again i'm not a fan of Islamism!
Loobs666 8 months ago
This song made me think of British Fascist Sir Oswald Mosley's post- WWII push for a united Europe - so I went and looked it up. It makes the song that much more appropriate, in my opinion.
jwmcnew 8 months ago
im fkn lovn this!ty for upping these
looknfortruth 9 months ago
Very cool! I love that they're totally anti-NWO!!!!
deejayehn 9 months ago
i wae going thru` a mid life crisis,hearing killing joke again reverts this!! Awesome and proud !!
steve2972 9 months ago
I feel so awesome to see these guys play this live
necrid86 9 months ago
a cross with a GWEN tower array. Nice art...
deejayehn 9 months ago
Fuck the EU and all that sail in her.
ModerateMartian 9 months ago
@ModerateMartian That's it bitch, be jealous! We know we got what everybody wants :D Can't this touch, tununu, Can't touch this, tunununu!
TTFLS 9 months ago
@TTFLS I'm not at all jealous. But they don't want it, the EU only exists by not giving the people their say in the matter.
ModerateMartian 9 months ago
@ModerateMartian Well you wouldn't ask people to have a say in the matter if they didn't want their garbage to be exposed of, do you? Its their job to make decisions.. And sure, they are politicians, they will make the wrong ones.. But he, what else is new? If we want to keep on spreading the way we do things, like we have for hundreds of years, we need to form a block.. And if we don't like the way our ' leaders' are doing it, we go to the streets, we just change it.. This is Europe m8!
TTFLS 9 months ago
@ModerateMartian Here, fucking here!
bufon63 9 months ago
@ModerateMartian Or is it hear fucking hear?! who cares? fuck the eu and their nwo
bufon63 9 months ago
Jaz is God
NovusChaoMundi 10 months ago
glad they're still around!
powerkor 10 months ago
The fact of the matter is that even our current mess, and bad leadership, the EU is THE most exciting political project in the history of the world.
There are plans for a EU Army, EU Navy, EU Air Force, there's already a EU intelligence agency, EU foreign depart., EU embassies, EU Police Force, EU Courts, EU judges, EU constitution, and last but not least; a EU LANGUAGE!
The EU is actually working on bringing back the Latin language, which has been dead the last 1400 years!
tjobv 10 months ago
@tjobv Have you ever travelled outside Europe? Do you believe it's a Utopia? Or are you saying that your views represent an ignorant, uneducated, right-wing elite and jack-boot police state? An EU police force is a dream? Are you serious? Quite amusing that Coleman actually believes that his audience is more self-aware and possess a higher consciousness than the average Motley Crue fan judging by mindless, bigoted remarks like these....
bufon63 10 months ago
@bufon63 hey i like motley crue and killing joke lol
MetalLabStudios 8 months ago
@MetalLabStudios lol!
bufon63 8 months ago
Magnificent.
Spiderhead1000 10 months ago
just hope Codex Alimentarius dont sue
TheThehum 10 months ago
Gotta love the Chorus (arty-ponce alert) It sounds like Mahler!
Loobs666 10 months ago
Ace, much better then the album before it >.<
what was with the lemmy sounding voice?? WTF happned there?? epic fail
morbidangel00 11 months ago
Gloria Europe!!
DacianWolf1 1 year ago 2
Wasn't aware of this track till 5 mins ago...love it already
pawnsacrifice1 1 year ago 3
If somebody's comparing this to Outside The Gate then fine. I LOVE Outside the Gate. And also I love the angrier records. Well.... I just love killing joke.
CaveSoundMeister 1 year ago 11
@CaveSoundMeister Any one see any similarity to Tesco Silverbum?
felixcock 5 months ago
youths back
dregs1983 1 year ago 7
Na, ez egész diszkós zene. Slágergyanús
raddiopass 1 year ago
Love Killing Joke. Not their best album but a good album in my opinion. Fuck off if you don't like. KJ have always been more diversed than some idiots think or like. KJ always makes a point and has great riffs with balls! Refused to be limited.
marvanme 1 year ago 3
FUUUCCKK YEEEEAAAAHHH !! Killing fucking Joke! R.I.P. Paul never met you, but I miss you!
06ruiz 1 year ago
after 30 years these boys still mean it,what energy,fantastic at hammersmith,awsome album nuff said!!!
TheBankrobber77 1 year ago 4
7 people who dislike this are retards....
DJAngelShadows 1 year ago 2
In concert this song had a 15 minute interlude
necrid86 1 year ago 2
europe; canada ; usa it is all feudalism .how exceptional that is!
marianmichalski 1 year ago
Alright, calm down, calm down. Europe and Canada are both exceptional places to live for a variety of reasons, and both Europeans and Canadians enjoy a standard of living that should cause Americans to be ashamed of themselves. Since this song is all about the promise of a new European Age, neither Canadians nor Europeans, who are more alike in many ways than they are to Americans, should have a single reason to bicker amongst one another when the future holds nothing but promise for both.
TithonusSyndrome 1 year ago
This should be the anthem of Europe. French food, german infrastructure, italian climate, greek monuments, spanish football team, scandinavian healthcare and polish girls. Is there a better land to live under the sun?
nyhos666 1 year ago 2
@nyhos666 Canada.
Actually, Canada and Europe are tied.
Feuyaer 1 year ago
@Feuyaer Wrong.
mikapromotesobesity 1 year ago
@mikapromotesobesity You're wrong, nerd.
Feuyaer 1 year ago
@Feuyaer Wrong again.
mikapromotesobesity 1 year ago
@mikapromotesobesity Are you mad because you live in a shit country? Canada destroys every country on the planet. Blocked, so I don't have to waste my time with you anymore, child.
Feuyaer 1 year ago
@Feuyaer "Are you mad because you live in a shit country? No, I don't live in canadia. I am European, something that you want to be. canda and Europe are not tied. canda is just a shit country, even america is better than canda.
mikapromotesobesity 1 year ago
@nyhos666 No Czech Girls!!! and Czech Beer, We Rule!!!
SlavicIn3D 1 year ago
@nyhos666 Is Poland is so great because you send all the wankers over to London?
simonyj 7 months ago
great tune from Killing Joke
bloodyrockfire 1 year ago
i love this band, the lyrics actually have a meaning istead of all the ''songs'' these days abou love and shit like that
NirvanaGoth2310 1 year ago
oh shit killing joke has a new one out for 2010, when were you fuckers gonna tell me?
BareseMaledetto 1 year ago
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KJ mentioned in new book With Cold Hearts. Cover features title of one of their earliest songs, You're Being Followed. Rough-edged (and sinister) Youtube trailer can be seen here:
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Developmentalmedia 1 year ago
still a class band ;)
dj241290 1 year ago
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If you like Killing Joke and a good story, you might like new mystery crime thriller called With Cold Hearts by David Hurst, trailer is on Youtube.
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It mentions KJ. Also features a Goth murder suspect! Unique take on the crime mystery story by an obvious KJ fan. Anyone know any other novels mentioning KJ?
Developmentalmedia 1 year ago
Loved this. Blogged the link. Brill.....
rnm1011 1 year ago
Killing Joke: European Super State 'I'm a Judeo-Christian morality with a Greco-Roman intellect It's the way we're short-wired ...It's a civilising force that demands respect -from the Baltic to the Straits of Gibraltar A blue flag gold star sparks a brand new empire Ours to build, ours the choice I'm in a European Super State Every citizen required to debate!
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 1 year ago 2
@COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY Fuck me, lyrically the polar opposite of "Empire Song"`! Perhaps Coleman wants to be knighted by the Queen now as he's already been decorated by the French. But then again that was by the same body who knighted Kylie Minogue (!) and therefore speaks volumes I suppose :)
bufon63 10 months ago
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COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 1 year ago
Why are the proud descendants of Plato
paying off more debts accommodating NATO?
We the caretakers of democracy no longer
tolerate this hypocrisy
Baltic to the Straits of Gibraltar
A blue flag gold star sparks a brand new empire
Ours to build, ours the choice
I'm in a European Super State...
Old Europe
I'm a Judeo-Christian...'
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 1 year ago
it's a massive sound, it's Epic KJ
COMMUNISTPHILOSOPHY 1 year ago
Wow, I totally just wet myself...
ThePoisonDoor 1 year ago
I still can't get around this new KJ release. It's. . .weird, for KJ I mean. It feels like going all over again through the Outside The Gates incident (basically speaking), don't know why.
Nikkrazz 1 year ago
@Nikkrazz lol your comparing this to outside the gate? you need to get your ears checked
hellchild65 1 year ago
@hellchild65 In fact I also think that it's the worst album since Outside the Gate. It reminds me of lame 80's mainstream pop. This is nowhere near the quality of previous four albums (so it can't be all Youth's fault). To me there is a total lack of aggression here and I can't feel the mysticism that some of you guys want to have discovered. But who am I to judge on that - I couldn't even feel the magic of "The Courtauld Talks" ;-) hahaha!
ChameleonsFan 1 year ago
@ChameleonsFan It sounds nothing like anything from the 80's imo, or that crap outside the gate. and sure the album isnt as aggressive as past one's but you do realize that these are 50 year old guys who have haven't wrote music with each other since the early 80's, they are not going top be constantly angry, plus its nice to hear Jaz sing again, not that I disliked his heavy vocals (they sound better then a large number of modern metal bands). lol also i dont think anyone like Courtauld Talks
hellchild65 1 year ago
@hellchild65 Well, they haven't written music with each other since the mid 90s. Youth was on board when they did Pandemonium (1994), which I liked a lot at that time, even though I think that the following three albums were even stronger. (though I didn't pay much attention to Democracy when it came out). What I found absolutely fascinating with the previous two albums: With growing age they seemed to become even angrier. Quite understandabIy the new album reflects grief and disorientation.
ChameleonsFan 1 year ago
@Nikkrazz It's pretty much the same but the music got more industrial on this record;reminds me a lot of a blend between KMFDM and Depeche Mode,very good stuff though they haven't really lost it
bloodyrockfire 1 year ago
chapeaux bas... for 28 years :))
xvueltax 1 year ago
i love killing joke. you are the best
anasalazar1 1 year ago 21
@anasalazar1 I know! my fav band of all time I was lucky enough to saw them 3 times in Montréal.
pakruy 1 year ago
All haters of Joke, fuck off!
878commando 1 year ago
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Enola645 1 year ago
Good song, good album!
zhalt123 1 year ago
Very very good music
pakruy 1 year ago
sounds like early Depeche Mode.
Zombiepizza88 1 year ago
Fucking love this track. Monstrous!
Jimcus 1 year ago
@Jimcus Im not that into DM but theyve done some great stuff over the years-so for a bunch of 50 year old geezers to sound like a bunch of hungry teenagers from Basildon dreaming of world domination-thats a GOOD thing No??? This song fucking kicks arse and the lyrics man...thids band is so fucking NOW!
Xythantiops 1 year ago
Some people here seem to think that they have the right to tell other people what they should like. I think that is very arrogant. I am the biggest fan ever but in my opinion KJ have reached their creative peak with the most amazing album ever recorded by anyone "extremities, dirt & various repressed emotions". "Democracy" and "Pandemonium" were still awesome but after that it seemed like they have been struggling a bit. It is to soon to say anything but this album is not growing on me as yet.
Eric22 1 year ago
@Eric22 you didn't even like the 2003 record? that album was great i thought. and hosannas was one of their most vicious records to date.
each to their own but i liked those records. i have mixed feelings about the newone though
lamentate07 1 year ago
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Satyagrahaha 1 year ago
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Satyagrahaha 1 year ago
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Satyagrahaha 1 year ago
Ultrafuckin' awesome! They seriously kicked arse last saturday at the legendary Hammersmith.
fofinho69 1 year ago
Saw KJ live last wednesday. HOLY SHIT. It was fucking insane, new album songs on it. I couldn't stop fucking moving to it the whole night. Go and see them!
windmoveswater 1 year ago
Aye, lefterovits, it's so late now and so past the point we could actually do anything about the particular political situation that 'European Super State' refers to, we are left with nothing to do but dance! Though why don't we all make it a point to act on those bits we can still influence, eh? Great song, couldn't be better. Saw a fellow in his fancy convertible blasting it on the street the other day, gave him the thumbs up. The obvious contradiction aside...
Nastyoff 1 year ago
I'm in a European Superstate of lurve ♥
WilfulDays 1 year ago
Wow - this is good enough for the underground and just pop enough to break through - the "Joke" may have a "punchline" yet!
zzGRENDELzz 1 year ago
I can't play Mass Effect anymore without thinking about The Joke. I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
tupalosa 1 year ago
Glorious return by these boys. Jaz still has his pipes in fine working order.
PositiveLastAction 1 year ago 20
@PositiveLastAction Don´t ask me about my comment on "European Union... eh European Super State".... ask Killing Joke... fresh to have them back
69redcherry69 10 months ago
The background atmospheric stuff reminds me of a recent Dark Ambient song that's been played on the radio in Estonia (@ Power Hit Radio), which lead me to believe that this atmospheric background was borrowed from somewhere, but I'd like to know from where/whom.
martrootamm 1 year ago
@martrootamm - the background atmospheric stuff reminds us how much dark ambient bands have been borrowing from Killing Joke since the 1970s.
Satyagrahaha 1 year ago
THIS REALLY GROWS ON YOU
insanerockerkid 1 year ago
Comprato, cd originale, mica cazzate di mp3. Si apre la custodia e si sfoglia il libretto. Semper imitatum, nunquam idem. Buy original!!!
Lagartijanick69 1 year ago
@Lagartijanick69 io prenderò il vinile come ai vecchi tempi!
Siamo coetanei e come traspare dal tuo nick abbiamo la stessa passione anche per i Bauhaus! ;)
iralien 1 year ago
@iralien Beh fino al vinile non sono così masochista, anche se per la verità lo attaccherei al muro, avessi lo spazio, ne attaccherei un migliaio di copertine!!!! I libretti dei cd sono tristi, ma gli mp3 sono la negazione assoluta! Generazione di tutto-facile!
Lagartijanick69 8 months ago
I love this band, but this song is for the goth clubs.
whitelikejesus 1 year ago
@whitelikejesus emokid
Nihilocracy 1 year ago
@Nihilocracy emokid
whitelikejesus 1 year ago
@whitelikejesus you literally know fuck all about music. go back to limp bizkit or something. goth clubs lmfao, fucking kids these days
Nihilocracy 1 year ago
@Nihilocracy You should ask yourself why you're getting so angry and making these assumptions.
whitelikejesus 1 year ago
killer lieke wie heeft ze gezien in den ab
ze waren weeral zalig
lashke1 1 year ago
Killing Joke forever!
mparusz 1 year ago
Io sto godendo al solo pensiero di un nuovo disco dei Killing Joke!!!!!!!
iralien 1 year ago
this song marks the beginning of the end of eu, no future for this pack of wolves
Babagau 1 year ago
Pure genius (again) from the band that has always set the standard for other great bands to follow
cisco9x 1 year ago
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Six videos of Killing Joke live in Prague, Oct. 4, 2010 on my youtube channel -- including In Excelsis, This World Hell, Madness, Requiem, The Wait, and Fall of Because. I gather if you're worthy you'll enjoy!
Satyagrahaha 1 year ago
Hell yeah windmoveswater....different beast surfaces....this is beyond human....who would think this is KJ....simply genius as usual....NYC December!!!!!
cirezetroc 1 year ago
@kingofpunk1977 I've noticed that in this and several other KJ posts you either refer to Jaz Coleman's anus or some form of 'bumlicking'. It seems to be a high area of focus for you. Maybe you have an illness. Also, 31 years KJ fan and proud so you can kiss my arse if you like as its clearly something you're interested in; along with, I expect, lots of other forms of self joy administered to yourself while you sit alone in your sick deluded fantasy world.
07parallax 1 year ago
a very psychedelic sequence. Jaz's vocal melody is an extreme feeling of fuzziness and loss, portraying an uncertain future. They played it live in Thessaloniki, Greece, the guitars were far more ahead than here. I liked the live version better and we danced a lot
lefterovits 1 year ago
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lefterovits 1 year ago
Ah, well, DoctorXeno, I regret my mistake if so. But as KJ have always been into self-reliance and extreme distrust of everything sanctioned by the mass corporate-derived and/or state-derived human id (well, the sort of id not expressed in, say, 'Tabazan' and 'Lust Almighty'), I assumed. 'Every citizen required to defend" is in the lyric. and that doesn't sound particularly Jaz-ish.
But I been wrong before this. Er, one more thing... is this KJ track its own Orb remix? Ha ha.
Nastyoff 1 year ago
thats post punk of the future !
nierealnaKOLABORACJA 1 year ago 4
ahahahahahahahaha! JOKE
878commando 1 year ago
@878commando oops, drunk!
878commando 1 year ago
ahahahahahahahaha!
878commando 1 year ago
hold the psy trance down... no euro revival thanks... it could be... but if... will than be dead... i guess youth did experiment with the israelii sun dancers... miss pauls selfconfidens as when the sun goes down... what a beast... black romantic... not like head bangers balls... yes jaz lol eternal message last until it ends
Enola645 1 year ago
@Enola645 If bands stay the same for 30 years, it means they're one-dimensional hacks. KJ don't enter this box though. They did chang/
DoctorXeno 1 year ago
One of their BEST tracks to date. Incredible. Welcome home, Youth :P
Problembeing 1 year ago
This tune is a machine. Should we be afraid of the European Super State? (I think most folks call it the EU, but let the lads have their head, eh). More often than not, when great powers get cash-strapped, they start wars. Got to pay for the police to keep the union demonstrators and the anarchists down, don't we? Good old Jaz and Paul and Geordie and Youth, always making it a point to make sure wehave plenty to be F'ing terrified of. Killer.
Nastyoff 1 year ago