@jourdal Nu tops Rachel in the tier list in BB:CT. Rachel may have better matchups overall than Nu, but her setup against Nu leaves her at 4:6. Nu wins because of positive matchups against EVERY character in Blazblue. Now that's just imba. That is, if tier lists matter to you I guess...
yes but a tier list does not state that some cannot beat nu or arakune with tager nor is it made by the designers of the game just because nu, arakune, and rachel are at the top of the tier list doesnt mean they are the better choice
I didn't say they were the best choices, I'm no tier whore, i don't even play with them. Tier list aren't by the designers but it's obvious that tager lacks the tools to tangle with the top three..just check dust loop and see tagers lopsided matchups.
haha i like the comment about arakune and nu being hard to play seeing as how simple they are to play, tager in my opinion can smack that crap right out of jin no problem and is way harder to learn or be good at then nu or arakune
Jin is pretty cheap, but only because he's easy to learn. At the highest level, players like Iron Tager, V-13 and Arakune are the most dangerous, they're just a lot harder to master.
Its true most Jin's spam ice attacks (Ill admit i spam sometimes) but just block and learn there movementsL wow nice doings Jin best special its hard for me to do that during a head on fight unless there noob :)
i play gin all-day long that's ma boy. i don't spam but i know how to mix things p and keep you guessing im talkin about grab to ice car to forward B to forward D to grab to Distortion (either one it doesnt matter* write that down its a great combo.
Jin spammers really aren't that hard. Now if you fight a Jin who is good at everything INCLUDING freezing. THEN you are in trouble. But that applies to all the characters.
I think Jins rivalry with Ragna stems from an accident involving their long lost sister Saya. He possesses a notable psychosis, said to be caused by his sword, the Nox Nyctores "Yukianesa". While the sword grants him manipulation over ice, it is also speculated to drive its user insane.
and also, give Jin 5 more years, and a killer, yet beautiful instinct, and he'll be a whole new Sephiroth! Well....the Sephiroth when he was in SOLDIER, not the ultimate evil one........meh, you know what I mean.
Yeah, these guys are sounding more and more like professional japanese voice actors as time moves on. Jin was the most convincing to me.
"Whoa, you're bleeding all over the place!
You gonna die? Bite the big one? Hey, think you're gonna die?!"
I thought this guy was a hero fightin for his own brand of justice and Ragna to be the vigilante fightin for his own desire. But after playing Arcade and Story with Ragna..who knew such a normal lookin guy could be a total psycho?
I think overall, his english voice is great. My only gripe with the english voice is when he's acting weird around Ragna. It's not executed as well, in my opinion.
I actually have to disagree with you there. I feel Jin's craziness is executed better in English than Japanese.
In Japanese Jin comes off more creepy than crazy when he meets up with Ragna. It feels like he has more of a stalker-crush on Ragna, not like he wants to kill him.
Lol agreed, stalker with a crush, but both voices are VERY good, im surprised at the effort put into the voice worker of a fighter...but GG had good voice work too
Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think his Japanese voice is bad by any means. I'm just saying that in the crazy department, I like how the English VA does it a little better.
Both VAs do a fine job of showing Jin at a breaking point in terms of sanity. I just like characters that sound more like they are feeling both intense anger and joy at seeing someone.
And, like I said originally, the stalker with a crush voice that the Japanese VA does feels more creepy than crazy to me.
But that's exactly it, he's a creepy motherfucker with a "big brother" obssesion. And not all crazy people must sound exactly crazy. They sometimes sound more creepy than insane.
And no, I'm not bashing the english VA, it's that I heard too little of him as Jin. But from what I hear right now, he doesn't exactly fit.
imo, just because some crazy people need to be a bit creepy doesn't mean you have to like. Jin's JPN voice along with his brother obssesion makes him waaay to creepy. Also, you'll have to see Ragna's story mode to see that Jin is so insane that it actual fits.
Kharaxel, I understand that there are different ways to sound crazy. I'm just saying that I like the "breaking point" crazy of the English VA more than the obsessive creepiness of the Japanese VA. It makes me enjoy Jin's character a bit more.
Whether this is right or wrong isn't important to me. It fits my perception of what a crazy person who wants to kill his brother would sound like. It fits for me, clearly it does not do the same for you. Luckily, we have the ability to choose what to hear.
Actually, fuck my previous statement. That guy is awesome as Jin. I love him.
But still, I think I prefer "creepy Jin" a bit more. A little bit. I don't know, maybe it's the fact that he sounds like a faggot when he says "nii-san".
Well I need to hear his voice more, but so far I like his Japenese one better. Sounds a little funny to me how he atks in English. Im not sure yet but I might play it with JPNese voice over. That is after I do all the story and q/e in English XP
BTW, I love a lot of animes in English over Japanese, so I dont prefer EVERYTHING in Japanese. This might be just one of the few games that I do.
The thing is i was watching videos since december..the JP voices were like..wired in there but after watching it in english fr like 3 hours lol i got used to the voice..
For jins personality it's VERY good, the voice is cold and arrogant and thats what Jin is like..i like his high pitched JP voice too but this voice is great
Lol thanks but i was dead serious, i think japanese is a beautiful and awesome language, but English VA's are fine these days, bad dubs are far and few and this is a GREAT dub, good effort by Aksys
jin is da best !!!!
dissidia012vaan 6 months ago
It is David Vincent lol
KillerKrump2000 11 months ago
"Dispatched in mankinds darkest hours. We are the knights of the blue flame!"
FarahxReid1059 1 year ago 5
OMG LOOK IT'S JIN WHEN HE WAS GOOD!
I'm sorry I couldn't resist. xD
In my scrubby days as Jin I actually did do the combos. They came in handy from time to time lol.
freckleburger 1 year ago
I love how in this game almost everyone can combo on the enemy even after he is knocked down.
gbahole1 1 year ago
This is David Vincent's voice.
OrgXIII4U 1 year ago
Hey look, it's a bunch of Jin combos that NOBODY is ever going to ever do. :D
SaitoKojima 2 years ago 8
Lol so true, not me though, the first 8 hits of the combo @ 25 secs is my favorite lol
jourdal 2 years ago 4
@SaitoKojima co u suck c0ck as stupid trash fagot c0ck sucking cunt
aquasteam 1 year ago
@SaitoKojima ahha pathetic loser c0ck sucking trash gtfo :D
aquasteam 1 year ago
Arakune dominates blazblue unless going against Nu-11 his cursing is to cheap
Mafiaboss58 2 years ago
number 1 is rachel, number 2 is nu, 3 is arakune
jourdal 2 years ago
@jourdal Nu tops Rachel in the tier list in BB:CT. Rachel may have better matchups overall than Nu, but her setup against Nu leaves her at 4:6. Nu wins because of positive matchups against EVERY character in Blazblue. Now that's just imba. That is, if tier lists matter to you I guess...
FrizFroz 1 year ago
i think Ragna is one of the cheapest characters and Jin is too easy to use
jazzyj4444 2 years ago
completely wrong but thing whatever you want
jourdal 2 years ago
*think
jourdal 2 years ago
lol
jazzyj4444 2 years ago
yes but a tier list does not state that some cannot beat nu or arakune with tager nor is it made by the designers of the game just because nu, arakune, and rachel are at the top of the tier list doesnt mean they are the better choice
ApexVash 2 years ago
I didn't say they were the best choices, I'm no tier whore, i don't even play with them. Tier list aren't by the designers but it's obvious that tager lacks the tools to tangle with the top three..just check dust loop and see tagers lopsided matchups.
jourdal 2 years ago
I thought Carl was Tager's worst matchup? Basically, any poke leads to the dreaded infinite known as the clap loop.
Cypher0120 2 years ago
haha i like the comment about arakune and nu being hard to play seeing as how simple they are to play, tager in my opinion can smack that crap right out of jin no problem and is way harder to learn or be good at then nu or arakune
ApexVash 2 years ago
except Tager is bottom tier and Arakune and Nu are top tier along with Rachel
jourdal 2 years ago
actually its fairly easy to defeat iron tager with jin
tedzo13 2 years ago
i a good tager can smack jin down if you aren't cautious.
jourdal 2 years ago
So can a good Jin.
Cypher0120 2 years ago
Jin is pretty cheap, but only because he's easy to learn. At the highest level, players like Iron Tager, V-13 and Arakune are the most dangerous, they're just a lot harder to master.
rakecs 2 years ago
Lol@ Tager being the most dangerous.
It's Nu,Arakune and Rachel and they are all HORRIBLE matchups for tager
jourdal 2 years ago
jin isn't cheap compared to arakune. arakune is really annoying.
HanTVStudios 2 years ago 2
I really like Jin and i cant wait to get this game, however i swear i will not spam with him, i will play him to his fullest. and master him
ZelosWilder9 2 years ago
Its true most Jin's spam ice attacks (Ill admit i spam sometimes) but just block and learn there movementsL wow nice doings Jin best special its hard for me to do that during a head on fight unless there noob :)
AnimeXGirlsX 2 years ago
i hate jin. all he can do is freeze people, and i fall for it :(
ViewtifulxXxMatt 2 years ago 3
learn to block and shake then, Jin spammers arent that hard to beat...especially when you fight 30 of them in a row
jourdal 2 years ago
i will get used to it. Can Bang counter his ice attacks with his Drive?
ViewtifulxXxMatt 2 years ago
at certains times if you time it right.
davaughnrocks21 2 years ago
i play gin all-day long that's ma boy. i don't spam but i know how to mix things p and keep you guessing im talkin about grab to ice car to forward B to forward D to grab to Distortion (either one it doesnt matter* write that down its a great combo.
NucleurHeadAke 2 years ago
Jin spammers really aren't that hard. Now if you fight a Jin who is good at everything INCLUDING freezing. THEN you are in trouble. But that applies to all the characters.
Faulzee 2 years ago
I think Jins rivalry with Ragna stems from an accident involving their long lost sister Saya. He possesses a notable psychosis, said to be caused by his sword, the Nox Nyctores "Yukianesa". While the sword grants him manipulation over ice, it is also speculated to drive its user insane.
Kotaroxtc 2 years ago
Every Nox Nyctores does something to the user..if it weren't For Noels Bolverk she wouldn't even have the strength to fight.
Also it wasn't an accident, Terumi is the one behind this
jourdal 2 years ago
Ah that explaines it thnx man i completly forgot Noels Bolverk did that.
Kotaroxtc 2 years ago
I would have preferred Jin to be the gun user and Jill Valentine - I mean Noel Vermillion to be the sword user. Oh well.
mushdog 2 years ago 3
and also, give Jin 5 more years, and a killer, yet beautiful instinct, and he'll be a whole new Sephiroth! Well....the Sephiroth when he was in SOLDIER, not the ultimate evil one........meh, you know what I mean.
envy400 2 years ago
Xing Ke, Grimmjow, and don't forget Assassin (Fate/Stay Night)
envy400 2 years ago
David Vincent...the guy who voiced Van voicing Jin? Seems a little off to me, but it's still awesome.
AKADaybreak 2 years ago
Jin's Japanese voice actor; Tetsuya Kakihara can speak Japanese, English, German and Latin. At first, I wish he voiced also Jin in the English dub.
However, I already brushed that aside after hearing David Vincent's awesome voice acting. :3
(...and is it a coincidence? Both Jin and Hakumen were voiced by Mr. Vincent?)
Faizerino 2 years ago 2
um...well...you'll see for yourself
jourdal 2 years ago
Fucking dubs are getting better every year. It's becoming harder to hate them.
Maybe one day we'll learn to respect OUR Seiyuu's much like Japan loves their VA's. But no, we'll still find ways to self-hate our own efforts.
strikerk 2 years ago 14
lol that was funny dude..but we have the VA's and they have the Seiyu's
jourdal 2 years ago
Yeah, these guys are sounding more and more like professional japanese voice actors as time moves on. Jin was the most convincing to me.
"Whoa, you're bleeding all over the place!
You gonna die? Bite the big one? Hey, think you're gonna die?!"
I thought this guy was a hero fightin for his own brand of justice and Ragna to be the vigilante fightin for his own desire. But after playing Arcade and Story with Ragna..who knew such a normal lookin guy could be a total psycho?
Hakkun9872 1 year ago
@strikerk no kidding, BB's voice team was a bloody dream team. Shinji the eldritch abomination and Simon the psychotic incestous asshole? hell yes!
Benjaminy2k 1 year ago 3
Huh?
I just don't see...how a bloodthirsty maniac and a creepy compulsive obsessive are voiced by the same person XD
kaihedgie 2 years ago
Damn Ragna and Jin sound great in english
Squall2600 2 years ago
agreed im very pleased with them
jourdal 2 years ago
I think overall, his english voice is great. My only gripe with the english voice is when he's acting weird around Ragna. It's not executed as well, in my opinion.
5CentimetersPerSecon 2 years ago
I actually have to disagree with you there. I feel Jin's craziness is executed better in English than Japanese.
In Japanese Jin comes off more creepy than crazy when he meets up with Ragna. It feels like he has more of a stalker-crush on Ragna, not like he wants to kill him.
Trekend 2 years ago 2
Lol agreed, stalker with a crush, but both voices are VERY good, im surprised at the effort put into the voice worker of a fighter...but GG had good voice work too
jourdal 2 years ago
Oh don't get me wrong, I don't think his Japanese voice is bad by any means. I'm just saying that in the crazy department, I like how the English VA does it a little better.
Both VAs do a fine job of showing Jin at a breaking point in terms of sanity. I just like characters that sound more like they are feeling both intense anger and joy at seeing someone.
And, like I said originally, the stalker with a crush voice that the Japanese VA does feels more creepy than crazy to me.
Trekend 2 years ago
But that's exactly it, he's a creepy motherfucker with a "big brother" obssesion. And not all crazy people must sound exactly crazy. They sometimes sound more creepy than insane.
And no, I'm not bashing the english VA, it's that I heard too little of him as Jin. But from what I hear right now, he doesn't exactly fit.
Peace.
Kharaxel 2 years ago
imo, just because some crazy people need to be a bit creepy doesn't mean you have to like. Jin's JPN voice along with his brother obssesion makes him waaay to creepy. Also, you'll have to see Ragna's story mode to see that Jin is so insane that it actual fits.
envy400 2 years ago
Kharaxel, I understand that there are different ways to sound crazy. I'm just saying that I like the "breaking point" crazy of the English VA more than the obsessive creepiness of the Japanese VA. It makes me enjoy Jin's character a bit more.
Whether this is right or wrong isn't important to me. It fits my perception of what a crazy person who wants to kill his brother would sound like. It fits for me, clearly it does not do the same for you. Luckily, we have the ability to choose what to hear.
Trekend 2 years ago 2
Actually, fuck my previous statement. That guy is awesome as Jin. I love him.
But still, I think I prefer "creepy Jin" a bit more. A little bit. I don't know, maybe it's the fact that he sounds like a faggot when he says "nii-san".
Kharaxel 2 years ago 3
LOL.. I can't lie, that was funny.
Iijima 2 years ago
His voice is too far away from his actual character,unlike the jap dubbed one,which was pure brilliance.
direwolfy 2 years ago
Oh god no weeabo comments please
The voice is fine
This isn't even the remotely the most important aspect of a fighter
jourdal 2 years ago
Well I need to hear his voice more, but so far I like his Japenese one better. Sounds a little funny to me how he atks in English. Im not sure yet but I might play it with JPNese voice over. That is after I do all the story and q/e in English XP
BTW, I love a lot of animes in English over Japanese, so I dont prefer EVERYTHING in Japanese. This might be just one of the few games that I do.
Gvuz 2 years ago
There's a live stream somewhere..
The thing is i was watching videos since december..the JP voices were like..wired in there but after watching it in english fr like 3 hours lol i got used to the voice..
For jins personality it's VERY good, the voice is cold and arrogant and thats what Jin is like..i like his high pitched JP voice too but this voice is great
jourdal 2 years ago
thumbs up for saying, "Oh god no weeabo comments please"
you're my hero and yes, jin's voice is fine.
SamuraiX7 2 years ago 2
Lol thanks but i was dead serious, i think japanese is a beautiful and awesome language, but English VA's are fine these days, bad dubs are far and few and this is a GREAT dub, good effort by Aksys
jourdal 2 years ago
He sounds a bit more manly than I thought he would...
- Hokage8
Writtenjustice 2 years ago
Whats up Hokage..
Yea his voice surprised me..awesome though
jourdal 2 years ago
What's going on!
Indeed, it did surprise me was well
I'm getting TOO excited, now!
Writtenjustice 2 years ago
just a week or so lol
jourdal 2 years ago
Yeah but I still can't wait! The live stream has me bellyaching D:
Writtenjustice 2 years ago