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  • Spanish subtitles please!!!

  • God equips the called, not calls the equipped

    I'm a new drummer for my church and I'm learning as I go from the best teacher my lord Jesus Christ I take it by faith. I'm a worshiper first hardly a drummer.

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  • I feel the same way about piano players, who bang the keys to hard, and for the singers who cant sing.

  • @m2redshirt I totally agree with everything you said here bro! God Bless!

  • beat box!!!

  • Thanks, Paul! Carl is a great drummer. Firsthand experience!

  • hmm i just started doing drums about a year ago for my church and, well i wasn't necessarily thrown into it, but i had no idea what a worship drummer is or does. heck im not even a drummer, im a guitar player, but this really does open the doors to what i do. just remembering playing drums today for church...well, theres really no other drummers in our church. i wish there was to tell me what im doing is right or intrusive or distracting. but this vid will keep me in thought of that. thanks (:

  • @m2redshirt While I do agree with you somewhat, (because in order to draw people in and have them participate, we do need to have orderly sounding music) frankly, I think there's a nice thick line between order in MUSIC and order in WORSHIP. Do you really think God would be less pleased with a mediocre drummer who has a fiery passion for Christ than He would be with a luke-warm drummer with incredible skills?

  • I LOVE THIS VIDEO

  • @m2redshirt very nice retort.

  • @ralphusbaritonusrex

    Good post...............I own a Tama watch and its ok to get "Linear Timedown "in a Practice/studio setting. But I am curious how it helps in live situatons? I never use those time keepers in live gigs, to me it makes the music too ridged.Plus no one else in the group can stay in that micro % of time sequence. Maybe Devo...........lol.

    Oh well to each his own.

    Peace..

  • Good advice and interesting as a drummer to hear about the role of drummer and the influence on a congregation.

  • As a life-long drummer and now keyboardist, I completely agree that having NO drummer is better than having a bad drummer. Great point.

    When it comes to worship, inferior musicianship shouldn't be a badge of honor. King David chose master musicians for his tabernacle for a reason.

    Musicianship allows you the freedom to play from the heart.

  • @thenonprodigal

    Having no pianist is better than having a bad pianist.

    Having no bassist is better than having a bad bassist.

    Having no guitarist is better than having a bad guitarist.

    Having no accordionists is better.

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  • @denim98

    I'm not sure to what you are replying. I was pointing out those traits you listed are in no way exclusive to drummers, but traits of any good musician, regardless of his instrument.

    "1. Never drowns the entire band

    2. Plays with flair rather than strength

    3. Knows various musical styles and apply the appropriate style to the song

    4. Knows how to play a certain given tempo

    5. Knows when to soften and when to be loud

    6. Knows how to sync with the bass player

    7. knows when to accent."

  • @mikeadiddle What i am saying is that not all instruments needed to be played throughout a song. There are certain parts where a particularly instruments should be silent in order not to ruin the music.

  • @denim98

    I read a great quote once..

    "Notes are a great way to get between times of silence."

    or something to that effect.

  • Some folks say that real worship should not include drums at all because drums are not biblical and distract from true worship. Luckily, most of them are unable to access the Internet.

  • @cinger7 The reason of distraction is that most drummers are unable to control their volume. This is the hardest skill to master - dynamics. Some play the drums in a small room as if they are playing in a huge stadium , thus drowning the whole band. Furthermore an acoustic drum cannot be volume-controlled.

  • Here are the traits of a GOOD drummer.

    1. Never drowns the entire band

    2. Plays with flair rather than strength

    3. Knows various musical styles and apply the appropriate style to the song

    4. Knows how to play a certain given tempo

    5. Knows when to soften and when to be loud

    6. Knows how to sync with the bass player

    7. knows when to accent.

  • @denim98 thank you for sharing that

  • @denim98

    Those are all signs of ANY good musician.

  • Paul is right.

    I agree with him. :D

    see, the bible says Worship God in spirit and in truth, so i believe when all drummers will just open up their hearts and let the Holy Spirit of God flow, everything will follow, everything is under control. But drummers also need to be alert or have a presence of mind. See, i am Filipino here, i am a drummer in our church, so i can relate what Paul is trying to say or to explain. :D GOD BLESS GUYS

  • So true...

  • This is so true. Iv been playing for about 4 or 5 years and for a while u think that drumming is all about those sweet solos but it often happens where people are in the middle of a solo and they get so pumped that they start to speed up and then once they bring a chorus in or another verse they are going way too fast and the song just doesn't sound as clean and wholesome as it did before the solo.

  • 4:34 lol "if your drummer is playing with a Time Machine"... Bring out the DeLorean

    Haha awesome advice, Paul

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  • In live services u want t Worship & t serve so that others can worship too.....a metronome can lead t 2 problems in that case(if u r not used 2 it)...1)over emphasizing to the metronome and you can't have ur mind in praising 2)If you go wrong somewhere and then you run to stick back,the others tell:stop running! I think it is great to practice a lot with a metronome,use it in recordings maybe,but in live services,praise The Lord,and through your practice out of live service,you'll become steady!

  • I think for worship music, the drummer needs to find a) the beauty in simplicity b) the beauty in dynamics and c) the beauty in patience.

    I've been playing in worship bands all over the place for the last nine years and those are the three things that I've really picked up.

  • Most church drummers drown the rest of the band coz they think they are playing in a huge stadium instead of a small church hall.

  • Paul! I was wondering if you had any tips or advice for choosing a "percussionist" (congas, bongos, timbales, small perc, effects, etc)? I am from Puerto Rico and most of the music downhere has the latin music influence...I was very blessed to find all these instructional visuals of how to work with the music ministry. I would like to hear what you have to say about my question...God bless!

  • @TimbaCristiana remember the percussionist COMPLIMENTS the drums. Lots of amateur percussionists tries to play the drums and make the rhythm sounds awful.

  • Thank you so much!

  • after watching / listening to this, i just realized what a very talented, talented and humble drummer we've had for our last youth camp.

  • You have the BEST drummer ever!!! CARL ALBRECHT :)

  • ha ha welllll... let's not get carried away with THAT statement.

  • tat was more than choosing and havin a drummer

  • Paul nailed it! No drummer is better than an o.k. drummer. The drums are the building blocks of the entire band and if the drummer isn't on a click track, forget it. Also, keep it simple and keep good time

  • NO, he said " I'd rather have no drummer than a bad drummer. And, you don't have to play to a click track if you're timming is good. I have been playing professionally for 45 yrs. and rarely play to a click. Also, we don't "keep it simple" in my church. We have over 4,000 people worshipping and it's pretty passionate and intense extravagant Worship. In a small church, I would say, Keep it Simple!

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  • I play drums at our church and how true it is that people follow the drums even when they aren't the lead instrument. I am teaching a couple young kids in our church to play and I appreciate this a lot it is great information and sound advice. Thanks

  • I play drums and love god and this is awesome..now im going to go to bed and sleep with the metronome under my pillow..sweet.

  • i would do the same..

  • this was really good i use a drum machine to practice with and now have started using it for the band and we can see a big differance in our playing in time. if you work as a team and pull togeather god can really use you as a drummer i am teaching people in our church to play and we use the machine all the time to get the time into them. in the last 6 months I have really noticed that the band is tighter and the worship leader trusts me alot more to keep the band in tight formation. its great

  • drummers and church po[otics i remember what i'm there for. Not my glory but his. I also balance out my need to play other things with other gigs. These are gigs i would not be ashamed to bring my parents or pastors to. Playing for a worship ministry is not just another gig, hopefully it's a call. Yes it is volenteer work but you don't have to be there if it's that bad. So do it for the right reasons, you know , that get your heart right mumbo jumbo.

  • worship leaders authority. i don't get paid for the three services and three rehearsals i do every week and i certainly don't like everything that we play or the way it gets played. but then again, i can always go elsewhere. i'm not in it for that. i made a commitment to God to play my best for his glory, for his people. i'm using the greatest gift that he gave me to give back to him. And he has blessed me for my sacrifices. When i get frustrated with the worship leader the lackadaisical...

  • greatly for their fills, note choices and rythmic syncopations the requests to play songs the way the leader wanted went way down. I started to learn how to give them what they wanted while still being myself. But first i had to build a big musical vocabulary (which i'm still adding to) so that i could say a lot of different things different ways (musically). getting back to worship ministries, it sounds like a lot of the people on this site really weren't ready to submit themselves to the...

  • that are universally honored by all serious musicians. These are musicians that ask the question: What does this song need in order to fulfill my musical responsability. A good musician will also get a sense of how much lattitude he has to be himself. The gigs are few (and far between where you get to play whatever you want without the leader asking you to play something the way he wants to hear it. But i did notice that the more i practiced and more i listened to the players i respected ...

  • Hey CP-nothing personal! i read a lot of the comments on this site and was disappointed at what i was reading. i played a lot of gigs in and around the New York scene for many years from jazz to latin r&b to brazilian and rock. i was an undisciiplined player who only thought of how many cool licks i could play at any given time and really didn't care what anyone had to say about it. i have never met Paul before but respect what he has to say.The things has to say are sound musical principles...

  • Maybe you should go and buy a Paul Simon record or Sting record for that matter and see who these guys are copying. Now that's great playing with taste....

  • you got one thing right..I do step down from the riser.

  • keep good time and create a great feel. Too many times what i hear is unstable time accompanied by sloppy fills that don't come back in on time. When what i would like to hear is a simpler version of the song played on time. if a drummer can't do that, then like Paul says, i'd rather have no drummer. i noticed when visiting other churches that when the music was unpleasing to my ears because of sloppy time and/or too many notes by any of the players it was harder for me to get in to worship...

  • in the world play very simply even though they have incredible chops. These are the guys that get paid thousands per song in recording sessions and usually nail the songs in one take. Being a bass player in a worship ministry i have come to appreceiate the value of a drummer who keeps good time. Two of the three drummers in the ministry have no concept of time or groove and don't feel the need to work on those two very basic principles. they feel the need to do their own thing rather then...

  • Much of what Paul says is music to my ears and i have not found anything in his videos that i can dispute. A drummers primary function is to keep time! Gifted drummers know how to keep perfect time and create a killer feel. This is a drummer that your mom and your freinds would like. I have a freind who teaches at Five Towns Music School here in New York and he expressed sadness at the amounts of musicians in training that don't have a good sense of time! Most of the highest paid drummers...

  • its not just about the skill,it defends upon how the Lord touch his heart and its desire..I, chossing a guitrist,basis etc I always telling them about their AVAILABILITY why??Skillfull BUT He/She not available its useless..compassion for the LORD!!Heart for the World..Godbless us!!

  • Goldensleeves.... Watch your words. God is pretty serious about what we do. Psalm 33:3 says, "play skillfully". The Bible also says "Whoever does the work of the Lord negligently is cursed". Imperfection is negligence. Pls don't carry this attitude 'anything would doin the kingdom'. No. That's the reason why we don't see much good music in Christian music industry. Let's get serious about what we do.

  • goldensleeves, I agree with you completely, it's a double-edged sword. Either sound really great because you chose the best players you could, or not sounds as great because you didn't "audition". I'm glad I'm not a worship leader and only a player, so I really don't have to judge and make the tough decisions. :)

  • amen minus the language.

  • I agree paul. A common thing I hear is a drummer who can keep time until a fill then there is a tendancy to rush through the fill and loose that sense of time. Working with a metronome really helps that. Or even better if they have been involved in a drum corp or marching band because those are EXCELLENT ways to train that sense of time.

  • amen.!!...

    it's true...

    as a drummer u must play less error..but..

    play as a rythmic..

    amen 2 dat...!tnx..

    godlbles..

  • This is why drummers need to work on a click track and always play with it live. At first it's rough, but once you get the hang of it, you wonder how you lived without it.

    Also, keep it simple. As a drummer for 13 years, I cannot over-emphasize the importance of staying in the pocket. Of course, everyone loves a cool fill, but in worship, keeping it low key and in time is the way to go. If you need any help, let me know what I can do.

  • I work with a click track and CD's to train for timekeeping. However, I never play with a click track live. I am the click track.

  • @richardshere Nice. I want a shirt that says "I am the click track" with a large picture of a drum set beneath.

  • I would recommend the book, "A Heart To Drum" by Terl Bryant to anyone considering playing in with a music worship team.. It takes a look at many aspects of music with regard to worship, from a drum perspective.., but it can apply to any musician.

    We are instructed by Gods word to play with sakal, a hebrew word meaning "wisely understand, prosper, have insight, to give attention to, consider, having comprehension, to be prudent or circumspect.." Much more than skill and technique.. 'quoted'

  • praise God for drummers who play with feel and play in solid time!! If we realise as worship musicians that we are there to 1) personally worship, and 2) inspire and facilitate corporate praise and worship, we'll then appreciate musicians who make it easier to worship, rather than more difficult

  • Heya Paul, Some very good information and advice here.. however, I will take issue with one thing.. The main reason a drummer was created was to keep good time. That is false.. Time/tempo is the responsibility of EVERY member of the band...

    Drummers were created by God to allow for another voice to be heard.. whether to drive music with energy and force, or to augment it with touch and simplicity.. or even by it's absence. For a drummer, or any other musician, good meter is a must. Peace!

  • But bad drummers can distract and hinder. He's speaking truth, man. From any standpoint.

  • A bad anything can distract.. I never said that it would not, I disagreed with the statement that "the number one reason that a drummer was created was to keep good time".

    Drums and drumming have many roles in music.. and by their nature are rhythmical, so it is most noticable when the drummer has poor time keeping abilities.. but it's been my experience over the last 30 years of playing that singers, then keys, then guitars tend to be the worst.. and even a mediocre drummer can cover that.

  • drums is a rhythm/percussion instrument...if the drummer can't keep time what use are they ;)

  • Thanks Paul, real and genuine advice. The drummer is key in the band for timing and consistency. Encouraging stuff, keep it coming! Thanks. Matt

  • amen!

  • I'm a drummer in HK, and play with worship term everyweek, your message is very useful...thanks..blessings

  • I was blessed to meet you last year. As a drummer for a Praise Team, you are absolutely right about all suggestions. I can't help to throw a bit of Neil Peart or Mike Portnoy into the mix, but where the rubber hits the road, the basic and steady thump is universal. Thank you so much for providing these resources!

  • Thanks a lot Paul for this video! God Bless!

  • stay tuned to the end for the excellent beat box. way to go Paul!

  • love it.

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