God its amazing how many real idiots are still in this country .. HELLOOOO,, turn on the lights in your brains people, Osama was on his death bed 10 years ago. Stop watching the corp owned MSM entertainment shows. All you have to do is use your own eyes to look at the evidence and listen to tons of testimony to see that the official 911 story is the biggest criminal conspiracy that has ever been perpetrated on our country, (maybe the Fed is right up there with the Bushboys conspiracy)
Cuz the democrats dont want to be associated with and have to try and defend another one of ob(s)amas blatant lies. Also didnt anyone notice that "raid" was timed just right to try and distract the nations attention from his even bigger lie about his fake Photoshopped birth cert.?
No one will ever change my mind. Bush is an idiot. He always has been and always will be. He fought a war that his daddy started and finished it. Huessin didn't attack us, he had nothing to do with us, but Bush wanted to finish it. Two wars, countless deaths and screwed up war policy based on lies, deceit and propaganda. All about Obama! Bush deserves nothing. He is still an idiot, and so is Cheney. The guy that was the real President...both idiots.
@Cartoonoldies: No. You're the idiot for allowing yourself to become brainwashed.
1. Argue w/the Pentagon & Dept of Defense who holds evidence that Saddam was harboring & financially assisting various Al Qaeda groups, some of who were tied to Bin Laden.
2. Gore claimed Bush Sr was wrong for not recognizing Saddam's ties to terrorism
3. Democrats urged for action against Saddam right before Bush was in office & then even louder after 9/11. Hear them for yourself: /watch?v=iSwSDvgw5Uc
@2010GOP Says the brainwashed person. 1.It was all lies and they proved that. 2. Bush SR, not Jr. This about Jr. If Sr had fought Saddam and had a justification for it, then fine,JR took it upon himself to put American in a pointless war. Bin Laden attacked us, not Saddam. 3. If you've been lied to like EVERYONE was by the President and he had a crapload of ppl telling the same lies, then of course you are going to push. I have an open mind, shame yours isn't. and you are full of the GOP lies
@Cartoonoldies: WOW. You really are ignorant. Pay attention:
1. Democrats, during the Clinton Administration, urged for action against Saddam over WMDs right 'before' Bush was in office ... and then even louder after 9/11
2. I mentioned Bush "Sr" because you referenced "daddy". Again, Gore claimed Sr was irresponsible for not recognizing Saddam's ties to terrorism
3. Bush didn't "lie", moron. It was called "intel" from UNSCOM, UNMOVIC & Foreign.
@2010GOP It's OBVIOUS that anyone that disagrees with you and your backwards way of thinking is an idiot. Look in the mirror. Bush lied YOU MORON. It's all out there! Your precious Republicans said so! You pay attention. Get the cotton balls out of your ears, hear the truth. Bush JR sent us to war bc he knew it would be a good opp to get Saddam. You are confused. JR sent us to get Saddam when he should have been focused on Bin Laden. "Your level of stupidity is frightening" I agree about you.
@Cartoonoldies: LOL. You're disagreeing with facts. I've given you the video of Democrats urging for action against Saddam over WMDs right 'before' Bush was in office ... and then even louder after 9/11.
Why is that you ask Richard?? Well that's because it is the Bush Admins wartime policies that lead up to the killing of OBL.....that's why you liberal RETARD!!!!
yeah!!! like FIFTY YEARS LATER OBL DIED!!! of natural causes... :/
come on.. those policies didn't catch OBL, if anything they made sure NOT to catch him. it's easy for you to call everyone else retards but draw the dots.. connect his capture to Bush policies? nah.. that thread, and I mean a *thin* thread, is debatable at best. there is NO clear line between the two.
@dreamcoyote Hmmmm dumbass, we've been on the hunt for OBL for 10 years. The Bush wartime policies, I'm sure led to the killing of OBL. I'm positive that the Patriot Act, and the dreaded waterboarding had a lot to do with finding him. It just so happened that he was found on Nobama's watch. Hell, even Nobama himself credited the Bush Admin on this deal.
actually Bush stopped hunting him (check quotes) and about shut down the OBL CIA office in 2006. "wartime policies" like.. Iraq? like putting fewer and fewer resources into Afghanistan? because.. that's how you catch a guy? you start wars in countries you know he's not in? waterboarding had *no* direct link to OBL's capture. that tenuous connection is because under NORMAL interrogation methods they got a name/info a year AFTER he was waterboarded. no evidence from patriot act.
@nextdrink45 As long as you also thank him for contributing to the majority of decisions that have our economy collapsing and for running up the debt more than Obama's administration ever will.
@XavierMac Running up the debt??? Hmmm...let's see here. Obama has been bitching that he "inherited a trillion dollar debt" when he took office. And hmmmmm....let's see. It's now at $14 trillion AND they want to raise the debt ceiling??? I think Obama is doing one heck of a job of running up that debt himself...don't you think??
@dtorfleming No, I give Bush credit for the wartime policies that has led up to the killing of OBL. I give credit to Obama for actually pulling the trigger. Unlike Bush, and Clinton who had OBL in the crosshairs and didn't pull the trigger.
So you give Bush credit for wartime policies that lead to OBL? Like moving troops from Afganistan (where he was) to Iraq. Like decommissioning the Bin Laden unit of the CIA? Brilliant.
I couldn't believe it when Sunday's mainstream media rolled these people out into the front line on the TV screens . I started experiencing post traumatic stress syndrome experiences.. Seriously and then MSNBC has to follow up and gives these people more airtime. Can we just forget about these people unless their tried for being war criminals?
I agree.. the right-wing media tromps out it's "views" and then everyone else quotes them, analyzes them, and complains about them. how often do we hear about left wing views? not much. it shifts the goalposts between the right wing and the center.. which means a lot of people are missing out AND the supposed lefties in congress get to try whatever they want because no one is watching. that's why social programs get bloated, because there's not enough daylight from *either* side.
Only brain-dead retards (the ones who call themselves "real" Americans), would buy the media propaganda that the corporate-owned, always pro-war, always pro-corporate media has some kind of a liberal bias.
I really want some other people who consider themselves Liberals, to tell me that the majority of Democrats who supported the Obama adminstration killing OBL without due process or even some sort of interview, is wrong and if Bush did it we all would be screaming bloody murder. Seriously Obama bots are almost worse than Bush bots cause you would think they would know better. Am I crazy? I feel alone thinking this.
Here's an answer for you. This is false equivalence: I don't believe dems would be screaming if Bush had taken out Bin Laden since he declared over and over on tape his history of killing innocent people and his intent to do more. You may note that Bush decided not to pursue Bin Laden and instead attacked Iraq. So you repubs are pro torture, pro war with the wrong country, pro Guantanamo and suddenly you care about due process when the black man is president
@dtorfleming I am no Republican I am an Obama voter that got tired of our President acting like Bush, chances are I am much more Liberal than you will ever be, because you are defending out President's actions, I am sure you have no problem with indefinate detention, rendition, Obama's assassination program, wiretapping without a warrant etc. Not me.
You are so wrong. We appear to have the same viewpoint regarding Obama and his Bush-like policies. I'm way left of Obama and his repub-lite positions.
Why the hell would you assume that I'm ok with the detentions, assassinations, etc? You have no real basis for that.
Note that I was attacking republicans, not defending Obama.
I wouldn't harass Bush for giving the go for the same operation with the same results. we don't know the necessary details. OBL was a potential suicide bomber.
I would give him crap for "rendition" and torture. if the stuff done during rendition were perfectly legal and OK then we wouldn't *have* rendition. Cheney's view is based not on morality but power. Mubarak was cool because he let us fly over, while torturing the opposition.
Good one Richard Madcow....the Pussy eating VAGetarian
robbb661 7 months ago
God its amazing how many real idiots are still in this country .. HELLOOOO,, turn on the lights in your brains people, Osama was on his death bed 10 years ago. Stop watching the corp owned MSM entertainment shows. All you have to do is use your own eyes to look at the evidence and listen to tons of testimony to see that the official 911 story is the biggest criminal conspiracy that has ever been perpetrated on our country, (maybe the Fed is right up there with the Bushboys conspiracy)
rammer561 8 months ago
Cuz the democrats dont want to be associated with and have to try and defend another one of ob(s)amas blatant lies. Also didnt anyone notice that "raid" was timed just right to try and distract the nations attention from his even bigger lie about his fake Photoshopped birth cert.?
rammer561 8 months ago
Why wouldn't the PNAC Bunch be the ones interviewed.
They are the ones who came up with this false flag shit.
jag10 9 months ago
No one will ever change my mind. Bush is an idiot. He always has been and always will be. He fought a war that his daddy started and finished it. Huessin didn't attack us, he had nothing to do with us, but Bush wanted to finish it. Two wars, countless deaths and screwed up war policy based on lies, deceit and propaganda. All about Obama! Bush deserves nothing. He is still an idiot, and so is Cheney. The guy that was the real President...both idiots.
Cartoonoldies 9 months ago
@Cartoonoldies: No. You're the idiot for allowing yourself to become brainwashed.
1. Argue w/the Pentagon & Dept of Defense who holds evidence that Saddam was harboring & financially assisting various Al Qaeda groups, some of who were tied to Bin Laden.
2. Gore claimed Bush Sr was wrong for not recognizing Saddam's ties to terrorism
3. Democrats urged for action against Saddam right before Bush was in office & then even louder after 9/11. Hear them for yourself: /watch?v=iSwSDvgw5Uc
2010GOP 9 months ago
@2010GOP Says the brainwashed person. 1.It was all lies and they proved that. 2. Bush SR, not Jr. This about Jr. If Sr had fought Saddam and had a justification for it, then fine,JR took it upon himself to put American in a pointless war. Bin Laden attacked us, not Saddam. 3. If you've been lied to like EVERYONE was by the President and he had a crapload of ppl telling the same lies, then of course you are going to push. I have an open mind, shame yours isn't. and you are full of the GOP lies
Cartoonoldies 9 months ago
@Cartoonoldies: WOW. You really are ignorant. Pay attention:
1. Democrats, during the Clinton Administration, urged for action against Saddam over WMDs right 'before' Bush was in office ... and then even louder after 9/11
2. I mentioned Bush "Sr" because you referenced "daddy". Again, Gore claimed Sr was irresponsible for not recognizing Saddam's ties to terrorism
3. Bush didn't "lie", moron. It was called "intel" from UNSCOM, UNMOVIC & Foreign.
Your level of stupidity is frightening
2010GOP 9 months ago
@2010GOP It's OBVIOUS that anyone that disagrees with you and your backwards way of thinking is an idiot. Look in the mirror. Bush lied YOU MORON. It's all out there! Your precious Republicans said so! You pay attention. Get the cotton balls out of your ears, hear the truth. Bush JR sent us to war bc he knew it would be a good opp to get Saddam. You are confused. JR sent us to get Saddam when he should have been focused on Bin Laden. "Your level of stupidity is frightening" I agree about you.
Cartoonoldies 9 months ago
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@Cartoonoldies: LOL. You're disagreeing with facts. I've given you the video of Democrats urging for action against Saddam over WMDs right 'before' Bush was in office ... and then even louder after 9/11.
Try again, pip-squeak: /watch?v=iSwSDvgw5Uc
2010GOP 9 months ago
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Shut up you stupid dyke.
HereinLasVegas 10 months ago
President Obama didnt do shit!@!
ChannelLaughOutLoud 10 months ago
As soon as you throw Liz Cheney in there any seriousness goes out the window.
MaryJesusJoseph 10 months ago
Why is that you ask Richard?? Well that's because it is the Bush Admins wartime policies that lead up to the killing of OBL.....that's why you liberal RETARD!!!!
nextdrink45 10 months ago
@nextdrink45
yeah!!! like FIFTY YEARS LATER OBL DIED!!! of natural causes... :/
come on.. those policies didn't catch OBL, if anything they made sure NOT to catch him. it's easy for you to call everyone else retards but draw the dots.. connect his capture to Bush policies? nah.. that thread, and I mean a *thin* thread, is debatable at best. there is NO clear line between the two.
dreamcoyote 10 months ago
@dreamcoyote Hmmmm dumbass, we've been on the hunt for OBL for 10 years. The Bush wartime policies, I'm sure led to the killing of OBL. I'm positive that the Patriot Act, and the dreaded waterboarding had a lot to do with finding him. It just so happened that he was found on Nobama's watch. Hell, even Nobama himself credited the Bush Admin on this deal.
nextdrink45 10 months ago
@nextdrink45
actually Bush stopped hunting him (check quotes) and about shut down the OBL CIA office in 2006. "wartime policies" like.. Iraq? like putting fewer and fewer resources into Afghanistan? because.. that's how you catch a guy? you start wars in countries you know he's not in? waterboarding had *no* direct link to OBL's capture. that tenuous connection is because under NORMAL interrogation methods they got a name/info a year AFTER he was waterboarded. no evidence from patriot act.
dreamcoyote 10 months ago
@dreamcoyote Ok bud.......you believe whatever radical left wing radio or TV show tells you. Personally, I'll thank GW Bush for this killing.
nextdrink45 10 months ago
@nextdrink45 As long as you also thank him for contributing to the majority of decisions that have our economy collapsing and for running up the debt more than Obama's administration ever will.
XavierMac 10 months ago
@XavierMac Running up the debt??? Hmmm...let's see here. Obama has been bitching that he "inherited a trillion dollar debt" when he took office. And hmmmmm....let's see. It's now at $14 trillion AND they want to raise the debt ceiling??? I think Obama is doing one heck of a job of running up that debt himself...don't you think??
nextdrink45 9 months ago
@nextdrink45
Bush: "I don't know where he is. I just don't spend that much time on it to be honest."
So you give Bush credit for killing Bin Laden but not the actual president who order soldiers in to kill him. Brilliant.
dtorfleming 9 months ago
@dtorfleming No, I give Bush credit for the wartime policies that has led up to the killing of OBL. I give credit to Obama for actually pulling the trigger. Unlike Bush, and Clinton who had OBL in the crosshairs and didn't pull the trigger.
nextdrink45 9 months ago
@nextdrink45
So you give Bush credit for wartime policies that lead to OBL? Like moving troops from Afganistan (where he was) to Iraq. Like decommissioning the Bin Laden unit of the CIA? Brilliant.
dtorfleming 9 months ago 2
Ah Rachel you said it yourself, "supposedly" the apex.
justlilyanne 10 months ago
I couldn't believe it when Sunday's mainstream media rolled these people out into the front line on the TV screens . I started experiencing post traumatic stress syndrome experiences.. Seriously and then MSNBC has to follow up and gives these people more airtime. Can we just forget about these people unless their tried for being war criminals?
flemmucus 10 months ago
@flemmucus
I agree.. the right-wing media tromps out it's "views" and then everyone else quotes them, analyzes them, and complains about them. how often do we hear about left wing views? not much. it shifts the goalposts between the right wing and the center.. which means a lot of people are missing out AND the supposed lefties in congress get to try whatever they want because no one is watching. that's why social programs get bloated, because there's not enough daylight from *either* side.
dreamcoyote 10 months ago
Only brain-dead retards (the ones who call themselves "real" Americans), would buy the media propaganda that the corporate-owned, always pro-war, always pro-corporate media has some kind of a liberal bias.
viruscauser 10 months ago 5
Because, The Liberal Media is a Myth.
RBLA818 10 months ago 5
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Madcow you ask why? Because the Obama administration is too stupid to ask any questions to and expect an answer.
TheDEMSUCK 10 months ago
I really want some other people who consider themselves Liberals, to tell me that the majority of Democrats who supported the Obama adminstration killing OBL without due process or even some sort of interview, is wrong and if Bush did it we all would be screaming bloody murder. Seriously Obama bots are almost worse than Bush bots cause you would think they would know better. Am I crazy? I feel alone thinking this.
starkweather444 10 months ago
@starkweather444
Here's an answer for you. This is false equivalence: I don't believe dems would be screaming if Bush had taken out Bin Laden since he declared over and over on tape his history of killing innocent people and his intent to do more. You may note that Bush decided not to pursue Bin Laden and instead attacked Iraq. So you repubs are pro torture, pro war with the wrong country, pro Guantanamo and suddenly you care about due process when the black man is president
dtorfleming 10 months ago
@dtorfleming I am no Republican I am an Obama voter that got tired of our President acting like Bush, chances are I am much more Liberal than you will ever be, because you are defending out President's actions, I am sure you have no problem with indefinate detention, rendition, Obama's assassination program, wiretapping without a warrant etc. Not me.
starkweather444 10 months ago
@starkweather444
You are so wrong. We appear to have the same viewpoint regarding Obama and his Bush-like policies. I'm way left of Obama and his repub-lite positions.
Why the hell would you assume that I'm ok with the detentions, assassinations, etc? You have no real basis for that.
Note that I was attacking republicans, not defending Obama.
dtorfleming 10 months ago
@dtorfleming Probably because you made blanket assumptions about my positions first.
starkweather444 10 months ago
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@dtorfleming And you accused me of being a racist??? Fuck off, dude.
starkweather444 10 months ago
@starkweather444
I'm not a liberal, I'm an independent..
I wouldn't harass Bush for giving the go for the same operation with the same results. we don't know the necessary details. OBL was a potential suicide bomber.
I would give him crap for "rendition" and torture. if the stuff done during rendition were perfectly legal and OK then we wouldn't *have* rendition. Cheney's view is based not on morality but power. Mubarak was cool because he let us fly over, while torturing the opposition.
dreamcoyote 10 months ago
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Why is that Madcow? Maybe because Obama Bin Liein actually a war mongering neocon.
afferch 10 months ago