Sugar Ray Robinson loses title Carmen Basilio

[fuckinpowerskenny]

BASILIO EX MARINES.respect.

[GuerreroDelInfo]

holy shit. how come i never heard of this basilio fella? how old was robinson in this fight? he was gettin tagged left and right..

[MannyMMA]

if he beat robinson why is robinson the best in the world?

[DanBuster707]

they both fought their hearts out but I think Robinson was robbed

[elnick1000]

Robinson in his book felt he was robbed. As he recalls it the fans booed the descision, but it sounds more they booed the scoring of Al Bearl. Robinson in his book said he did not like Basilio, (he liked Fulmer) As I remember it was something about Basilio's mob connections (Probably more to do with his manager having to talk to those guys than anything else) And Basilio later said he did not like Robinson, found him arrogant. In recent years, Basilio has been made to look like the a better per

[ezekielwahwah]

@elnick1000

Basilio was just the better fighter that night. :-)

[1961beethoven]

Basilio looks like he was at least, 20 pounds lighter than Robinson......could it be possible that they were fighting with that of a great difference in weight?!

[gregluland]

These two fights between these blokes were some of the best battles in ring history, Basilio proved his greatness beyond any doubt

[Jlk9011]

Boxing deserves to be WAyY more popular

[FuckPeople91]

basilio is a beast !!!!

[niceguyblueeyes]

one of the greatest fighters of all time

[Ricky42791]

unbelievable chins and determination

[25Cracker1]

I would have to agree with you 100% boxerrick42. If they were fighting at that age these days they would still wrek house!

[25Cracker1]

mikk.... I would love to see you go against a feather wheight. I see nothing wrong with there foot work orther than they were both all around great fighters, and trying to get a feel for the other, if not addapt.

[AKAKArnott]

Jesus H. Christ!!!

How did Basilio's head stay on his shoulders after that left hook from Robinson at 4.04?

[mykrollin]

Yhea you right hes crap. emanual steward joe louis sugar ray lennord AND mohamad ali are all wrong,.. and you infact are right.... DICKHEAD

[finetubs]

"great"ray robinson,looks like nothing really,cant imagine hearns,dlh,or many other welters wudn't have beat him,4get him competing at middle with hagler,roy jones,monzon etc

[mikedeech94]

I really had no idea he was this great. i had dinner w/ him a couple years ago. and he gave me a signed picture of himself

[MrZilchy]

my grandfather was acctually in attendance for this fight sat next to joe demaggio

[mrzilchyweed01]

carmens my uncle and i know he would go to jail for manslauter today they dont go as long or take the beatings they used to lol

[cheetoh32]

get em Uncle Carmen!

[mickkelly86]

boxererrik are you for real, their footwork is terrible and they both are moving the same way around the ring lol, u need to actually have a look at the quality of todays fighters to make an outrageous statement like that, the sport has massivley advanced from these days

[boxerrick42]

Suffice to say they really dont make fighters like these anymore. They would both destroy the middleweight dividion today

[chestermolester33]

danm sugar ray is fucking huge compared to basilio... he has a huge size advantage on basilio.. i don't care what it said on paper.. ray robinson has a good 15-20 pounds of natural size

[Tsoto247]

he lives down the street from me

[ro666in]

or present..

[ro666in]

dont give a shit what the outcome of this fight was on paper, sugar robbie won this fight as far as I'm consered, ray robinson lightining speed killer combos, and the movement, all in one package, Ali and sugar ray leonard all had him as there idole, And not without reason, i meen, check this guys youtube footage, and compare to any fighter, or middleweight fighter, he would have killed pavlik, artur abraham marvin hagler, tommy hearns or any middleweight fighter that had fought in the past

[supeone]

I am big fan of Sugar Ray Robinson. Watching him boxing is .....

Everybody that boxed or knows boxing understand what I mean.

But I have to admit that I am a even bigger fan of Basilio. I ve watched a few fights on ESPN Classic and on Youtube. He always gives a 100. The fighters were so great back in those days.........

[lggriffin]

The punishment Basilio took in the 12th was incredible! If his head wasn't connected to his neck, I'll bet some of those shots would've sent his head flying about rows! It's even more incredible that he came on strong like he did in the 13th

[bustapunk101]

these two knew how to keep things interesting.

[dan32113]

Basilio involved in The Ring Fight of the Year 5 years in a row. 1955 1956 1957 1958 1959.... incredible!!!

[tommygumport]

@dan32113

holy shit!

[AdognamedOp]

I dont know, judging from what were shown here I'd say the decision could have easily gone the other way.

[Automatic25]

lts stop saying it was cause of age cause I bet if Sugar Robinson was 30 and Basillo was 37 everyone would be like Basillo's got alot of heart. Both were great and fantastic fighters. They'd kill every welterweight around now with ease

[slvrstnthb]

why?

[kboyzrock]

Classic fight, Sugar Ray had his moments and so did Basilio, would liked to have seen the entire fight, couldn't figure out the disparity in scoring between the 2 judges. These 2 fighters were among my favorites all time.

[GOPA90]

Wow 3232rams! Your old man saw the great Harry Greb! Would have loved to talked to him.

[madmax8903]

Both were great. Obviously Basilio is nearer his peak, but he took punishment that many a fighter would have quit at.: unstoppable. Towards the end of the thirteenth, Robinson hit him with a left hook that spun his head but he didn't even look like going down. Pity the ninth wasn't featured: Peter Wilson, the late BBC journalist, said it was the best round he ever saw. I'm sure it was this fight and not the rematch.

[pistolpete0500]

lol no one today could beat prime could beat the sugarman

[vasco1469]

It's already been said many times but indeed, Sugar in his prime would hit the living shit out of Basilio. Sugar was the greatest. Check out my tribute.

[tmotleygoldstein]

sugar did hit the shit out of basilio. Basilio was a tough motherfucker. Never off his feet his whole career.  Angelo Dundee called him the hardest trainer of all time, and he trained the rock and muhammad ali.

[batistatiepolo]

Harry Greb would have beaten both!

[3232rams]

harry greb was the man he beat mickey walker and gene tunny enough said he beat 13 world champs my dad saw him fight 2 said he was a animal

[merryhobgoblin]

Ive just had a look at this incredible mans boxing record,i didn't realise that he had a total fight card of 298 fight with 261 wins...lol was he human? i know that fighters fought a lot more back in the day but that is just inhuman. All i can say is he must of been some man and one hell of a fighter

[mako7828]

Check out wilie pep who was in a body cast after a plane crash, came back to fight another 60 some times and won another championship, fighters today are lame in comparison.

[ssaltspring]

That's an understatement.

[boxart30]

Robinson may have allowed Basilio to win by being over confident, but make no mistake, if Robby were in his prime he would have walked through the very tough Onion farmer from upstate NY.Sugar was THE best ever & as good as Pavlik is, he would not beat Ray.

[deathmetalmilitia]

I think it woulda worked out this way either way. This was a vendetta. Basilio had some shit to settle with Ray. Robinson was the only person that Basilio hated even after the fight to this day. Carmen and his wife went to see one of his fights and saw him pull up in his pink caddy and Carmen introduced himself and tried to shake his hand and Robinson kinda moved him aside and kept going. He said that he was humiliated in front of his wife and he vowed to get back at Sugar Ray.

[deathmetalmilitia]

And your right I dont think Pavlik would beat Sugar Ray. But I think Calzaghe would.

[boxingnut1986]

robinson in his prime= a dead pavlik and a dead basilio

[judaschongo]

don't underestimate Basilio even though Robinson was 37 and Basilio about 30; the age is somewhat offset by the fact that Robinson is considerably larger. Basilio had a lot of heart as did Ray Robinson.

[lemonite1]

I've been going back and watching SRR vs. Fulmer, SRR vs. Basilio, when they were done with their careers, they had nothing left to prove. They all fought like true champions.

[brybry19871987]

Hey did they fight a rematch? if so who won?

[KentuckyBrad1980]

they fought again the next year in 1958. sugar ray won on decision and won back the title

[MURDOC5000000]

Robinson won by SD.

[batistatiepolo]

Harry Greb would have beaten both!

[gqbart]

I don't see it. Where's the greatness? Why is he number 1? Oh well, probably I am not use to black n white t.v.

[Poetryisalive]

What do you guys think Carmen Basilio would do to the guys in his weight class today? I'll tell you what he'd do. Carmen Basilio would be in jail for manslaughter. That's what!

[edwardpf123]

@Poetryisalive -You got that right!

[battenwood]

@Poetryisalive Come on, Carmen was tough but Pacquiao would make a monkey out of him.

Come to think of it, Carmen always did resemble a chimp.

 Not being mean---just truthful.

[marcxopoco]

Youtube boxing "expert" @battenwood thinks Paquiao could beat Sugar Ray Robinson?

Basilio did.

[greenstboy]

Amazing that Carmen was so tough. He looks frail next to the great Robinson. Wonder waht the weight difference was? Nobody tougher, pound for pound.

[warrior350es]

Basilio was one of the best conditioned fighters of all time.

[radabminj]

The Onion Farmer was impossibly tough

[duvallianstallion]

Basilio was my dad's favorite fighter...this is the 1st time I have had the pleasure to see him fight.

[karlos81]

In his prime Basillo wouldnt have even looked good against Robinson he got an old man.

[RealMusashiMiyamoto]

Ha ha ha

[deathmetalmilitia]

bullass Basilio was a beast.

[fireking345]

these guys are true fighters..

they go beyond skill i mean basilio is a freaking onion farmer for god sakes..

but he had a strong will to go on

what a beast to beat sugar ray Robinson

[boxingnut1986]

the fighters in this era where fucken gladiators! and i didnt realize how good basilio

[greek1237]

I have the fight complete, it is a amazing fight.

[deathmetalmilitia]

I just uploaded a sugar ray fight thats not on youtube. Check it out.

[killpolitics]

Thanks for this, sweetfights. One of the greatest classic fights ever.

Robinson...Basilio...LaMotta..­.Cerdan - they sure don't make 'em like that no more!

[rockym92]

This is such a great fight, i wish the whole fight was on here. right as this video starts, basilio is just finishing 1 of the most amazing combinations ive ever seen a man take. the fight would have been stopped now a days. But damn, these 2 put on 1 hell of a show on this night. basilio had to come up 14 pounds to take this fight. both of these guys have more heart than any boxer today

[Albeleo]

Both of these fighters are incredible, if only for their ability to withstand so many punches. There are so many landed blows in this fight, and yet they both remain tenacious and focused, even after staggering a bit. Just fuckin' amazing to watch.

[robl101]

carmen basilio is one of my favorite boxers its strange how him and lamotta both beat robinson and both lost and both had the same style but lamotta is alot more famous. I would love to see them fight eachother

[bxrfan]

you would love to see two guys in their eighties fight?

[deathmetalmilitia]

yes

[11bollocks]

ray robinson ,henry armstrong,archie moore must be the three top fighters of all time?

[rockym92]

gotta throw willie pep in there and maybe joe louis

[sciipi]

yea thats until he throws his fastest combinations he could knock u out with either hand sorry but ur an idiot!

[joeman999]

rickanderson, seeing as your such an expert boxer, i'd like to see how you would even after 1 round in the ring with either 1 of those boxers, you idiot! It's called being tired and exhausted!

[shankthatup]

SRR is the best p4p...muhammed ali joe louis and sugar ray leonard all admited this...

[Bonesteoca]

Sugar Ray is the idol of many boxers; even though Ali and possibly Leonard is better, they'd never admit it.

[XOcolemanXO]

You don't see fights like that anymore,look at the power in there punches.The older generation was tougher and better fighters.

[dtrain70]

I agree. And they fought without the use of modern chemistry (i.e STERIODS!) Great stuff!!

[killapound]

whos better in reputation suger ray leonard or robinson and who do u think would win???

[DukeBasil]

ROBINSON...WHY...because he is the best of the two......and one of the best of all time

[killapound]

yup that ture hes stronger than leonard but AS fast and some people thinks he the greatest of all time but i think its all about ali but not really evander hollyfeild but he kicks ass to (sometimes un like the time when he was fighting micke tyson thats when he got a piece of his ear bitten of) and some people dont know that that was evander holyfield

[3472af]

mistavega doesn't have clue what he is talking about.robinson was the best pound for pound boxer there ever was, ali admitted it himself he would torture any boxer today!!

[madore4789]

mistavega you're the dumbest piece of shit i've ever heard of

[Satori1800]

Mike 'The dorkus who put this dumb tattoo on my head is so going to get his' Tyson is greatest p4p.

Thanks for great video:)

[matt99811]

better than Sugar Ray Robinsonp4p?

[Satori1800]

MATT: Good Point. Did you at least like my dumb tattoo joke:) ?

God Bless You:)

[SigurFloyddd]

wow, how basilio didnt go down from the shots in the 12th round is remarkable.

[astrotrain21]

I'd also like to point out to you, MistaVega, that the action shown is from near the end of the fight, when both fighters are fatigued. Even earlier on, they would have to fight at a different pace to account for fights being 15 rounds rather than 12. Yes, I know that the fighters of today are better than they were in the 50s, though.

[Sassy5y]

Half of wat ur saying is true.

[astrotrain21]

What did I say that wasn't true?

[Sassy5y]

You said dat robinson wasnt as good as modern fighters, and dat boxers from the 50s are not as good as boxers from 2day. Dats wats not true. And yeah there not the same, boxers from the 50s were alot better. Oh yeah robinson here is 41, basilio is in his 20s.And most of the videos u see of robinson are videos from when he is past his prime they dont have any videos of when he was in his prime. Old day boxers will always be better than modern day boxers.

[Greker]

Yeah, sugar ray is the greatest of all time. People dont see that, they are fed up on reality shows and action movies. What a bunch of no-brainers

[MistaVega]

Seriously I have no respect for either of them, they're slappers like that one british faggot who beat weak ass lacey. I'd one hit k.o. both these pussys, any boxer from our era could take out these two chumps, even the feather weights

[astrotrain21]

Well, Robinson might not be as good as the top fighters from more modern years (although I haven't seen much of him), but to say that he'd be crap compared to all the guys of today is ridiculous. He'd still be able to beat nearly anyone in his division (I'm speaking of the division overall, not just the top ten). If you watch average boxers of today, he's still way ahead of them.

[mow1717]

even though he doesn't show it here robinson had one punch knockout power

[shire2005]

Robinson was light..

Everyone knows that robinson was once a welterweight and never lost there but few may know that he actually began as a lightweight. He didn't crack 140 lbs until his 9th fight and even at the age of 23 he went down to 140 to fight henry armstrong.

While robinson was first fighting middleweights he would often weigh in below today's junior middle weight limit often even below 150.

That's why i think a full fledged middle like hagler would have beaten him.

[Sassy5y]

No way man. Not a chance!!! hagler would get out classed by the best boxer of all time.

[jaja3000]

eventually robinson had avenged this defeat in their rematch

[maturanesa]

robinson dont won the figth because Basilio had a awesome chin

But robinson have the talent

[xylofish1]

watchin this not so sure bout ray..got hit ALOT.cud THIS RAY in this fight beat hearns?ray leonard?i dont know.cud he beat duran?dont know,even a guy with a much bigger hook than basili like oscar,not sure at all..ray got quite a record but on film here...dont know

[Sassy5y]

well, the sugar man is 7 years older than basilio. But it doesnt matter Robinson won the rematch. But then again do you know who he is fighting a hall of famer. dont even dare to compare oscar to baslio. Basilio is in a different league. Robinson is the best boxer of all time PERIOD!!!!

[Oct83ber]

Wow, round 15! Those were men back then.

[ishrin]

MistaVega, you'd die in the ring with either.

[MistaVega]

does guys hit like pussys. I'd beat the shit out of both of them.... AT THE SAME TIME.

[Sassy5y]

Ur stupid

[cckessin]

they don't make em like those guys anymore.

[furtherdefinitions]

These old warriors were real fighters. No bullshit showboating, just go and do a job. Great fighters.

[ralvarezguitar]

great fight

[underbOssx]

robinson got killed but fuck it, he bounce back. robinson never backs down from nothing. once he sees hes getting beat he wakes up and waits for u to get tired and then massacre you.

[zoegirl72]

robinson took a beating on thiose ropes then came right back