I hate statistics that say a condition is extremely rare. To the person who has the condition it is 100%. People are all different and deserve to be treated as individuals. Generalisations are just that, generalisations. It is the differences amoungst us that make us strong.
it's weird because there's a cartoon just like this called simone, which is on another planet, and all people on this planet are female up till the age of 17 when they decide what sex they want to be, it didn't seem realistic until watching this video.
"Hermaphrodite" as a general term for Intersex is deprecated. It's inaccurate. Insulting too.
Now there are a few, a very few, IS people who are Hermaphrodites in a technical sense: that is, they have both ovarian and testicular tissue. Appearance can vary. I'm not saying anything's *completely* impossible, but it's really very unlikely that someone has "both sets". Some with CAH have a clitoris so large that it's capable of penetrative sex though, plus a vagina. Most don't.
Someone has to. I'm a very private person, but .. my situation couldn't exactly be hidden. Too many eye-witnesses to it happening. So I tried to make a virtue of necessity.
Natalie didn't have to. She's the brave one.
Hopefully now people are aware of the issue, I can now slink back into relative personal obscurity, and as normal a life as is possible under the circumstances.
It's a bit like being a Cylon. "We walk amongst you". :-)
Hi Zoe, Can i just ask you a question if no-one else already has. With becoming female did you tend to become female in every other way i.e did your feelings change about your sexuality as well. I mean I can imagine it would considering your hormonal changes but was just wondering - also were you born with female anatomy? - I dont think the clip made it clear unless i missed it - like a womb or female genitalia? Thanks am very interested :)
My external genitalia was masculinised. I have what may be a hysterectomy scar, various bits of "anmalous tissue" were removed from my abdomen when I was 20, along with my gallbladder.
The records have been lost as to what exactly was taken out, but it could have only been scraps of tissue anyway.
My gender identity has always been female (I picked the name Zoe at age 10), but until 2005 I was essentially asexual.
It can be for many, yes. Of course, if you meet Mr or Ms Right, then they may not worry too much about the anomalous anatomy.
You may face legal difficulties getting married though - in some jurisdictions, some IS people are forbidden from doing that, one of the side-effects of the anto-gay laws many places have.
i hate this show, mostly because the hosts annoy me, there just a bunch of uni undergrads who have no understanding of the real world, like the segment about 100 Aus. troops that got paid like 2 grand less than what they should... who cares it was like 100 guys who werent on the front line, dont get me wrong their job isnt any less important but really the fuss they made out of it was a joke. Why not do a story on the good work they do over there???
OK, it complicated my life a lot. It certainly hasn't been easy, and there are all sorts of continuing medical issues. I'll never look pretty, that's pretty obvious. But I can now take a bath without wanting to burst into tears.
Others are content with their lot. IS people vary as much as non-IS people do.
Freaks trying to be normal? Nope. No hope of that. Normality is over-rated anyway. Unusual People trying to be, well, just unusual people, yes, that's true. *shrug* What else should we do?
@ZoeBrain: I dont know why you say that you will never look pretty. I think you look lovely. Actually, belay that, I do understand why; and believe me, even those of us who haven't had your challenges still struggle with thinking we will never look pretty.
ExplodingYak - the obvious retort is "what happened to yours?"
Remember, I was diagnosed as a "mildly" intersexed male. If the only thing wrong is having that bit missing or atrophied, that's "mild". Though a guy might not see it that way.
Look up Wikipedia on "undervirilised fertile male syndrome" and "mictopenis"..
kennylipiat - "sexing the body" by anne fausto-sterling puts it at 1.7%, one in 60, based on meta-studies, but having a very broad definition of Intersex. By the narrowest possible definition, requiring both testicular and ovarian tissue to be present, it's one in a few thousand.
EinDose - Natalie's symptoms would be classed as "overt" not minor. Most people who are IS have far less obvious symptoms, some only detectable by a Laboratory.
If the symptoms are as minor as Natalie's, I'd be inclined to believe it. Minor symptoms most, of course, but one in one hundred sounds right.
I personally hate Hungry Beast because the show has no idea what it wants to be. Pieces like this are okay, but honestly seems... a bit pointless. And honestly these are probably the most tolerable kinds of pieces they do. Better than contradicting themselves within two minutes.
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lol. intersex. It's like sex on the internet. The new name for cybersex is now intersex. the decision is made, no amount of angry comments will change my mind.
No, why do you ask? And you assume that I ever had one in the first place. Certainly my genitalia was masculinised before the change - just incompletely so.
After the change, it was a mess that required surgical reconstruction.
You are very admirable! This video has opened my eyes immensely! People who judge are ignorance. Keep on being who are you. I can tell you are a beautiful person :-D
I hate statistics that say a condition is extremely rare. To the person who has the condition it is 100%. People are all different and deserve to be treated as individuals. Generalisations are just that, generalisations. It is the differences amoungst us that make us strong.
millertas 1 year ago
mmm. We are all individuals, we are all different. I hope people do not make jokes about it, genetics are genetics, they can't be changed.
You two seem like lovely caring people. At the end of the day that is all that matters.
sleepysonic 1 year ago
it retracted ok wtf?
murrymurrymurrymurry 1 year ago
it's weird because there's a cartoon just like this called simone, which is on another planet, and all people on this planet are female up till the age of 17 when they decide what sex they want to be, it didn't seem realistic until watching this video.
luke666808g 1 year ago
So Natalie is both a realist and a dreamer?
garylevington 1 year ago
Sooooo what is the difference between a hermaphrodite and an intersex person?
sugarplumapathy 1 year ago
@sugarplumapathy
"Hermaphrodite" as a general term for Intersex is deprecated. It's inaccurate. Insulting too.
Now there are a few, a very few, IS people who are Hermaphrodites in a technical sense: that is, they have both ovarian and testicular tissue. Appearance can vary. I'm not saying anything's *completely* impossible, but it's really very unlikely that someone has "both sets". Some with CAH have a clitoris so large that it's capable of penetrative sex though, plus a vagina. Most don't.
ZoeBrain 1 year ago
Very, very interesting.
Thank you both for for your openness and willingness to share your private lives with us
ozzirt 1 year ago
@ozzirt
Someone has to. I'm a very private person, but .. my situation couldn't exactly be hidden. Too many eye-witnesses to it happening. So I tried to make a virtue of necessity.
Natalie didn't have to. She's the brave one.
Hopefully now people are aware of the issue, I can now slink back into relative personal obscurity, and as normal a life as is possible under the circumstances.
It's a bit like being a Cylon. "We walk amongst you". :-)
ZoeBrain 1 year ago
Hi Zoe, Can i just ask you a question if no-one else already has. With becoming female did you tend to become female in every other way i.e did your feelings change about your sexuality as well. I mean I can imagine it would considering your hormonal changes but was just wondering - also were you born with female anatomy? - I dont think the clip made it clear unless i missed it - like a womb or female genitalia? Thanks am very interested :)
jenhow69 1 year ago
@jenhow69
My external genitalia was masculinised. I have what may be a hysterectomy scar, various bits of "anmalous tissue" were removed from my abdomen when I was 20, along with my gallbladder.
The records have been lost as to what exactly was taken out, but it could have only been scraps of tissue anyway.
My gender identity has always been female (I picked the name Zoe at age 10), but until 2005 I was essentially asexual.
It's all in my blog. Google my name to find it.
ZoeBrain 1 year ago
probably a very lonely life.. quite sad.
deicidalmaniac 1 year ago
@deicidalmaniac
It can be for many, yes. Of course, if you meet Mr or Ms Right, then they may not worry too much about the anomalous anatomy.
You may face legal difficulties getting married though - in some jurisdictions, some IS people are forbidden from doing that, one of the side-effects of the anto-gay laws many places have.
ZoeBrain 1 year ago
Natalie is a hottie
littlehornydevil69 1 year ago
Natalie is my cousin :)
Penstar100 1 year ago
They are people. They have feelings and emotions too. They didn't choose this. They are one of us. They love. That's all that matters :-D
TheMojore 1 year ago
ASIANFRED THINKS THIS VIDEO IS VERY GOOD!!!....2 THUMBS UP
great info
OMGitsAsianFRED 1 year ago
i hate this show, mostly because the hosts annoy me, there just a bunch of uni undergrads who have no understanding of the real world, like the segment about 100 Aus. troops that got paid like 2 grand less than what they should... who cares it was like 100 guys who werent on the front line, dont get me wrong their job isnt any less important but really the fuss they made out of it was a joke. Why not do a story on the good work they do over there???
novembergolf15 1 year ago
@novembergolf15
No it was the guys who WERE on the front line who got paid less.
edsoad 1 year ago
OK, it complicated my life a lot. It certainly hasn't been easy, and there are all sorts of continuing medical issues. I'll never look pretty, that's pretty obvious. But I can now take a bath without wanting to burst into tears.
Others are content with their lot. IS people vary as much as non-IS people do.
Freaks trying to be normal? Nope. No hope of that. Normality is over-rated anyway. Unusual People trying to be, well, just unusual people, yes, that's true. *shrug* What else should we do?
ZoeBrain 1 year ago
@ZoeBrain: I dont know why you say that you will never look pretty. I think you look lovely. Actually, belay that, I do understand why; and believe me, even those of us who haven't had your challenges still struggle with thinking we will never look pretty.
Flutterbyg1rl 1 year ago
ExplodingYak - the obvious retort is "what happened to yours?"
Remember, I was diagnosed as a "mildly" intersexed male. If the only thing wrong is having that bit missing or atrophied, that's "mild". Though a guy might not see it that way.
Look up Wikipedia on "undervirilised fertile male syndrome" and "mictopenis"..
ZoeBrain 1 year ago
kennylipiat - "sexing the body" by anne fausto-sterling puts it at 1.7%, one in 60, based on meta-studies, but having a very broad definition of Intersex. By the narrowest possible definition, requiring both testicular and ovarian tissue to be present, it's one in a few thousand.
ZoeBrain 1 year ago
EinDose - Natalie's symptoms would be classed as "overt" not minor. Most people who are IS have far less obvious symptoms, some only detectable by a Laboratory.
ZoeBrain 1 year ago
Great video, I really enjoyed it. And I hope to meet Zoe one day too!
specifyparameters 1 year ago
where are these figures coming from? I highly doubt that it's 1 in 100
kennylippiatt 1 year ago 2
If the symptoms are as minor as Natalie's, I'd be inclined to believe it. Minor symptoms most, of course, but one in one hundred sounds right.
I personally hate Hungry Beast because the show has no idea what it wants to be. Pieces like this are okay, but honestly seems... a bit pointless. And honestly these are probably the most tolerable kinds of pieces they do. Better than contradicting themselves within two minutes.
EinDose 1 year ago
It's not pointless. It's raising awareness and sharing peoples' stories.
eFeminate 1 year ago
what happens to your dick? does it shirnk from 10 to 9 to 8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10 ? Is that how it works?
ExplodingYak 1 year ago
No.
eFeminate 1 year ago
freaks trying to be normal
connoedude 1 year ago
What? Who cares about being normal? I'm not even on hormones at present...
eFeminate 1 year ago
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lol. intersex. It's like sex on the internet. The new name for cybersex is now intersex. the decision is made, no amount of angry comments will change my mind.
InjecteDVenoM 1 year ago
Haha. Your're very wise. no sarcasm intended Lol.
kwibi856 1 year ago
@InjecteDVenoM
What about that 1 thumbs down :O
rhyboy1 1 year ago
Poor Zoe,
you didn't deserve this.
CaitlinSullivan 1 year ago
@CaitlinSullivan
I didn't deserve it - to me it was a miracle.
I picked the name "Zoe" in 1968 you see,
when I thought I'd have a female puberty.
Others, transsexual women, those who
were not able to cope and *had* to
transition, deserved this blessing more
than I did.
ZoeBrain 1 year ago
@ZoeBrain
You're a very admirable and level headed person.
I don't know if this if this is something you want to hear but I hope you find another partner soon enough as well.
Good luck. :)
CaitlinSullivan 1 year ago
@CaitlinSullivan
I'm happy with the one I have - too bad we're of the same sex. Besides which, our child likes having us together, an he comes first to both of us.
ZoeBrain 1 year ago
@ZoeBrain You still have a penis, correct?
Jesusability 1 year ago
@Jesusability
No, why do you ask? And you assume that I ever had one in the first place. Certainly my genitalia was masculinised before the change - just incompletely so.
After the change, it was a mess that required surgical reconstruction.
Now I look normal according to my Ob/Gyn.
ZoeBrain 1 year ago
@Jesusability
Maybe I should mention that the conception of my son took technical help. Syringes to extract gametes etc.
And I'm no more in the habit of discussing my genitalia than anyone else is - so have said about all I'm going to on the subject, sorry.
ZoeBrain 1 year ago
You are very admirable! This video has opened my eyes immensely! People who judge are ignorance. Keep on being who are you. I can tell you are a beautiful person :-D
TheMojore 1 year ago
Intersex is terrible name, sounds corporate.
AudibleOpinion 1 year ago 2