UD Upper Deck Exquisite - AN ETHICAL DISGRACE

[gregkuhl]

Upper Deck is praying that the NFL doesn't have a lock out next year... They are in hibernation mode and trying to hang on with only hockey/football. If we have a lock out next NFL season, you can say goodbye to Upper Deck. Beckett won't be around forever either... The only real value of a card is what someone is willing to pay for it and eBay determines the price of almost everything. The market has been so over-saturated with high end cards lately, teens and kids don't even collect sports card

[cdelljr1]

Well if I was UD I would stack my box as well. You have thousands and thousands of people watching this break you dont want them pulling shit autos and game used. Hell for all we know UD got the cards back after the break. No it is not right what they are doing but can't say I blame them.

[mattfarus1]

Beckett messed up the whole market wayyyyyyyyy back in the day. they used to send secret shoppers out to buy large amounts of the card and raise the prices so they could resell them and make profit. its sick what he did to the market.

[mattfarus1]

Beckett messed up the whole market wayyyyyyyyy back in the day. they used to send secret shoppers out to buy large amounts of the card and raise the prices so they could resell them and make profit. its sick what he did to the market. That and the large amounts of jersey cards and autos keep them from being rare so everything sells dirt cheap

[doct0rthrill]

No wonder the card industry is going downhill faster than Lehman Brothers. Modern cards are bs. not worthy to worth anything. only stuff with heritage and culture deserves to be valuable.

[DROCODRAMA]

Some people just have money 2 burn.I'm in chicago all the time i'd rather just pray i c jordan and just have him sign my fucken card.Upper Deck is trying to recover for lost sales due 2 a poor economy.I WISH I WOULD PAY THAT KINDA MONEY 4 3 0r 4 SORRY ASS BENCH WARMERS.I'D RATHER PURCHASE A PROSTITUTE WITH THAT MONEY.

[commonmanscollector]

I stopped collecting Upper Deck this year, I'm glad Topps is all there is in the MLB

[Shimey013]

So yea, I have been saying this for years, I have stopped people from buying UD because of it, I've stopped buying UD cause of it. But that being said, I use to post it on the forums too one how beckett UD pulls were overly packed it wasnt even funny. For the longest time it was only UD and then i noticed other companies loading boxes. So i just quit busting for a while. Lately though I have noticed beckett get less and less huge pulls, so hopefully the card companies are learning.

[TBTwinsFan09]

I hate all highend... you pay 800 bucks for 3 cards... you get 1 base card and 2 scrub auto cards numbered too 100... Beckett slaps an unbelieveable BV on them and moves on... I buy all my highend from trusted people... and I get it for WAY cheaper than it's bv'd

[IISK8RII]

its all about publicity and beckett used it to there advantage. UD used that to create a hype around there product and sold more boxes because of it.

**DON'T FORGET UD IS BASED IN LAS VEGAS AND WE ALL KNOW THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS IN LAS VEGAS**

[BobGibsonFan]

Vegas...UMMMMM No they're not....LOL...try Carlsbad California...lol...people make me lauch when they think they know everything!

[IISK8RII]

oh..... i thought they were at 985 trade drive, north las vegas, NV 89030 U.S.A..... i guess i'm wrong but it's still a form of gambling because of the prices being so astronomical for the their "high end" products and the resell value of the cards pulled, and in gambling THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS.... oh ya sorry i made you "LAUCH"

[BobGibsonFan]

sorry If I offended you :(...and yes, you're 100% correct...it is gambling! and yup, THE HOUSE ALWAYS WINS :) Good point my friend! :)

[gonblott]

do u know where i can find the video?

i want to see the beckett video again

what jerks to setup this

[travrosty]

its a crap shoot, you arent guaranteed anything, so becket got a good box, and you didnt, what if it were the other way around, would you offer money back to them? its sour grapes!!!

[gregkuhl]

I will never buy an Upper Deck product again and will be posting a video about their false advertising and mis-leading product ratios..

Beckett's grading system is just as corrupt as UD's business model. I believe their is an attorney in California that is working on a class action lawsuit against Upper Deck. Let me find the article? Great vid. by the way.

[jxwhee]

where can I see this original video from beckett?

[jxwhee]

kind of dumb to give away that AP, the best card in the line.

[RockBandANDBaseball2]

Good point dude! You rock!!!

[Justwinbaby75]

Its sickening all the money Ive put into it and have pretty much nothing to show for it lol

[johnniechains]

i feel bad for you, bro...

[johnniechains]

this is exactly why i do not waste my time/money attempting to collect game used/autographs...i will stick to my faves and base card rookies, period...thanx for the vid brother!!!

[randomhereoh]

wow. thats crazy. but why would other card companies give away 1/1s?

[rareluck]

I hate Beckett and never buy or use them. I will always use CV not BV. As for UD they suck too, but it will be hard to ban them since there are so few card makers left in the market. Nice post.

[gifts216]

well if you spend alot of money and dont pull nothing dont buy the product

[kdubya8]

exactly

[carterdeboe1]

In 2006 Exquisite they pulled a Vince Young Auto Patch /99 back then it was a $1500 card.

[ChiTownDDS]

Upper Deck is a scam.

[MyhardPwner]

He's right. Every Beckett break is loaded as can be. They have the biggest pulls.

[lydelli2004]

why don't we just quit buying cards and put these bastards all out of business

[kdubya8]

Good luck with that

[obscureaddict]

Wow!!! Where are the ethics with these companies???!?! I don't have huge funds for millions of cards, but I spend a good deal of my paycheck on sports cards. After watching this I am certainly going to limit my choices of what I buy. This guy is very very very informed and worthwhile to watch.

[redsoxrule2031]

wow dude thank you so much for bringing this to my attention, everything you said was 100% correct. you did a fenominal job on this video. great job

[devs30]

thanx for bringing attention to this. if this is all true and it seems like it is then way to stick it to the small guy upper deck

[wurtz1987]

Your videos are great. They have amazing explanations, and you make all this interesting for me, and I don't even collect football cards. I'm a hockey collector. Keep doing what you're doing man. Hopefully you can break this scam and bring out the truth. I have faith in you, and would be behind you 100%

[DeltaPi1049]

Thanks for the encouragement, check out the blog for more updates.

[DeltaPi1049]

Thanks to the content of this video and my other site, I have been banned from the beckett forum despite no other infringements. See my post on Sports Cards Uncensored for more information.

[dealership22]

they just banned you because they were scared, of others knowing what happened. If it got out of hand they could of been in big trouble. Good Job !

[pmbw47]

beckett forms suck.

hobbykings does too.

[topcardholder1]

Why do you think

I only really buy from Topps. And what the heck does Beckett need these cards for??? were the real collectors. Why waste the good cards on a company that can buy the who producting line???

[Sandbagger300]

Wasn't beckett's motto back in the mid 90's that they don't collect cards, because collecting AND being a price guide is a conflict of interest? for me, they shouldn't be doing box breaks at all.

[ace98790]

I may call up upper deck and tell that im not going to buy any of their products anymore and tell my friends not to buy ud cards anymore. first reason ud is to fucking expensive 300 bucks for 2 cards fuck them 2. this exquisite football scam them saying oh well we didn't load the 2 boxes but you can tell they did and 3. their fucking redemptions i mean come on you almost never i mean never get what it says on the redeption so im probably will call them later on

[DeltaPi1049]

Sorry to the guy whose post I accidentally deleted, I am a Sigma Nu.

[fjt13]

man ud should be a shamed

[johnnyv1938]

You collectors are just as much to blame. I don't feel for anyone that pays 300.00, 400.00 ect for a pack of cards with 7 cards in it. Its your fault as well for buying the crap. I much rather spend that kind of money on some 59 topps baseball. Only reason you guys buy it is to try to get a "big" pull to sell on ebay and then you cry when u get crap and then don't even make half of it back when u try and sell it. Whatever happended to collecting for fun?

[billthaxton]

Partly true, but the UNregulation of the hobby borders on criminal. You don't see casinos in every neighborhood for a reason but you DO see a card shop on every corner. No gambling license = No card shop.

[Blasterbreakguy]

Sheeze, I think it's time we all boycott buying packs and boxes. This is totally unethical.

[haybierman]

UD may be overpriced and overhyped but they still put out the best looking cards and there is enough partial reinforcement to keep people chugging away buying boxes hoping to get that white whale... it's a lot like playing a slot machine.

[billthaxton]

uh...you don't see slot machines on every street corner in southern california.

[haybierman]

You DO see instant lottery tickets sold in almost every convenience store. Same thing, it's just that lotteries are state-controlled.

[billthaxton]

Yes, but they are REGULATED by law. They all have the CASH odds clearly printed and each "bundle" has guaranteed dollar for dollar value back which is why some people just by entire bundles of scratchers...they know they will at least get their money back. Upper Deck used to do the odds thing to some extent, but even then it was only for a RANDOM rookie auto or a RANDOM jersey card. Now they don't even do it at all!

[golfereal]

upper deck, i will never buy from you again, you ripped me off once, now this. ridicoulous. Packsearchers are ruining the hobby, huh, that may be true, but upper deck it doing more. F**K upper deck

[golfereal]

upper deck, i will never buy from you again, you ripped me off once, now this. ridicoulous. Packsearchers are ruining the hobby, huh, that may be true, but upper deck it doing more. F**K upper deck

[megacoltsfan18]

now we know why upper deck boxes never do well with the average breaker

[bloggo1]

this is why i don't collect cards anymore!!

[tclarktpc]

donruss rules!!!

[CODYAUSMITH]

upper dack made the news ! :) cas the Exquisite loaded boxes

[DeltaPi1049]

If this is real...

PM me with info please.

[CODYAUSMITH]

me ? :)

[DeltaPi1049]

Yes, if this was on the news, please message me with info. If you were joking, thats cool.

[rsherard3]

Class action? I've spent enough on UD products. Anyone else feel the same? I've also spent a sizeable amount on Beckett.

[Jmac0585]

Nice to see everyone coming around to hating UD... Like I was over a year ago!

[REAMER2323]

the truth is out there!!!! screw Upper Deck - remember the complete rip off of 07 UD black baseball?!? yea thats were they lost my money, i havet bought anything UD since..but hey, thanks Upper deck for my auto of Khalil Green and Dan Haren...$250 per box and cards worth 5 dollars each.....wow

[hoochis]

what kind of cards are good to get?

[me2d2insj]

shady is shady... boycott donruss too!

[pjh1469]

piece of shit upper deck!!!! fuck you beckett!!!!i hope your companies go bankrupt

[sallizdog]

Beckett has made sure this will no longer be discussed. They locked and sticked the main thread for a day then unsticked it and its on page 3 soon to vanish.

They are also locking ALL new threads which have anything at all to do with it. Exactly what they and UD said this wont be new for long because the powers that be wont allow it! What a joke!

All those that have a problem should walk from beckett instead of sticking around making them money!

Sadly this is about to die!

[DeltaPi1049]

I knew those jerks would never allow this to stay around.

[wwwNightCrewSports]

The chances at the cards that they pulled by the math are approximately 1:20,000,000

[newlamboindriveway]

hey i just went and watch it actually and now i completely agree with u tht is just crazy no way tht could have happened in 2 boxes way 2 many good pulls

[dashouls]

I HOPE THEY DONT SEARCH NASCAR :D

[jeredweaver1of1]

I am glad someone finally had the balls to point this out. Maybe alot of people also noticed this, but didn't have the time to inform everyone else. It's all about commericialism- the bait we all feed on. CONSUMERS BEWARE!

[yankstixman]

this video is on wikipedia! NICE!

[tvwatcher5000]

upper deck does not know where the boxes go after they are packed so stop boycotting upper deck or beckett it's not their fault that got the good stuff in 2007 Upper Deck Exquisite football it just happened to come to the beckett office the two 1 of 1 boxes i mean you may boycott Upper deck products but i will not

[DeltaPi1049]

First, unlike a woman, the period is your friend. Second if you believe its luck, please go buy only two lottery tickets, and pray you win it all. Your odds would have been the same as the beckett dorks.

[newlamboindriveway]

dude they prob open more they put tht up cuz it wuz good. get money and open alot of boxes and u might get some good cards I WILL NOT BOYCOTT UPPER DECK and u 5 boycottin wount even matter u cant get enough 2 get them out of bussiness so theres no reason tryin

[ultimatederon]

It was live on video dude. Those were the only 2 Exquisite boxes that Beckett opened.

[DeltaPi1049]

Hey, feel free to keep buy Upper Dick products. I have no issues with that. Now, before you decide to post this diarrhea on here again, make sure the rest of us can read it and laugh at you. Cuz ur post wasnt tht gud.

[newlamboindriveway]

hey i am not saying at all tht upper deck dosent do some shit tht is gay like make there products look better but all companies do u even said by saying donruss does it 2 and i am not trying 2 dis u but i just dont think we could do enough 2 stop this and not enough people 2 make a diffence will.

[hoochis]

i don't understand what's going on?

[hofular]

The worlds first angry person for a pack having content!! Did this pack have what you have asked for? I think there is hateration going on here because they were not opened by you.

[wwwNightCrewSports]

Math and statistics says that the boxes Beckett broke weren't normal boxes. Don't be so gullible.

[DeltaPi1049]

Hey, you know what? I saw that someone was selling a Peterson NFL logo patch on ebay numbered /1499. It had 1 bidder at 300 bucks. Im guessing it was you. I mean, the seller guaranteed it was real, right?

[srslychris]

it's kindve stupid on their part, why pull the peterson 1/1 on camera, noone will buy that shit now. LOL

[DeltaPi1049]

The thread on beckett has been locked for good, but it is stickied to the top of the forums. Lets hope they dont remove it.

[bostonsox3404]

im NEVER buying a shitty ass upperdeck product again

[billthaxton]

Dude, anyone else wonder how some of the RAREST cards in the hobby can also have the HIGHEST Beckett grades as well??? There's more cheating going on here than Nascar racing!

[DeltaPi1049]

I am encouraging as many video responses as possible. Comments too. This video will not be allowed to be posted on beckett anymore! Please post everywhere.

[JDSportsCards]

wow...thanks for making this vid man i definetly agree with you...someone has got to do something about this...

[sblez]

Upper deck has been doing this for years now. Havent you guys noticed that most of the big pulls come from the West Coast. Upper deck loads the boxes to stores they know and they have the people sell the card and upper deck gives them something. Upper deck have been doing this since they started putting jerseys and autographs. They can do this because they are exclusive with most of the big guys. Any of you guys see the guy with the quad auto hes from arizona. we should do something

[cuseman2001]

Considering that link has been in your sig forever. What mod was it??

[DeltaPi1049]

The link to my video and YouTube profile have been removed by the moderators at beckett. I wonder why, considering the video is not offensive at all.

[GeorgeLynchFan]

Fuck Upper Deck and fuck that mod Devillefan or whatever his name is....I posted on the thread about this subject Delta is talking about and that dude told me if I post a negative comment about UD or Beckett again I am suspended....hey...Deville....­FUCK YOU!!!! I suppose Deville will prolly suspend me for no reason since I posted on a site where he has no control over... Delta....I am with you on this as are many other pissed off collectors.

[yodude91]

whats the link to the beckett video ?

[wtfrodney]

ha if this is true and fox runs this story beckett and UD are gonna face so much negative publicity or give some so contirved run of the mill explanation all in all shit is gonne be bad either way which i'm all for fuck you upper deck.

[botabu]

Well now I (user: Zildjian) was suspended from the Beckett boards for asking a QUESTION!! I posted this morning at 8:45 AM as to why the US/Beckett thread was locked! Within 10 minutes my thread was gone and I was suspended.... gotta love the jerks over there. Keep hiding the truth guys, just admitting it would have been better.... for christ sake say that you asked UD for good cards to run a MEGA contest with. People would have believed that MUCH more than the boxes being "random".

[Bucknellbison]

Beckett is as guilty as can be, they pull these awesome cards and they act like they pulled a scrub auto. Awesome vid!

[sallizdog]

Beckett can claim they are innocent, but the fact is they are NOT! They are 100% unethical for putting on this charade!

I dont see how they can sleep at night knowing they are misleading their customers!They should be purchasing REAL boxes and opening up what their customers open! They shouldnt be breaking loaded boxes to help sell more cards for the companies!

At the end of the day UD and Beckett dont care about their customers, all either of them care about is making another buck!

[umiami89]

dude you put a great argument together man! it was almost like you wrote this out. your a goos speaker. i totally agree with you

[yankstixman]

i love u bobb0

[DeltaPi1049]

Funny, you must be better at the whole video creation thing than I am.

[SportsKing64]

i have been saying for years ud suxes .. i quiet buying ud few years ago cause i would buy a case of there product an get jacked notta damn thing .. so i was finished with ud years ago

[TheBackstopDOTnet]

hmmmm

[acknumbers]

now you understand why i weigh hot packs and use my receipt to sell the spoiled goods back to target.....tens of thousands saved, thousands made, and a great collection and they paid for my 6 week vacation to the tropics last summer!

[DeltaPi1049]

I think you might be joking. Lets hope so. For your sake.

[acknumbers]

why? i collect for free and make loot....i got the card companies by the balls...the companies that cheat people the most inadvertently leaved themselves open to the same treatment...i just thought of it first....either way, you say no more ud...then you bust 500$ of their product...way to stick to it...you had a choice...you could have sold it...liar

[packsearcherisback]

dude he is not kidding. except for his lame ass trip to quatamala.lmao!he is the former 1realpacksearcher. he opens blasters and then picks them and returns them. hes a real loser.he saves all receipts . he got embarrased and had to remove his vids.avoid him.

[yankstixman]

What a disgrace, I stay away from UD. Donruss kicks ass baby!

[yankstixman]

OMG YOUR ALIVE!!

[mecawenlol]

Funny thing is they think we collectors are cows... damn it now the cows can think and react. Good Luck Upper Deck, you have seen your sales in BKB dip on 2007, prepare for 2008... we will wait for beckett nerds to open the good boxes then we will buy the cards on ebay GL.

[cuyler41]

Total BS, but no suprise. I'm done with beckett and UD forever.

[Johnny8242]

So true its un-ethical marketing by Beckett and UD. I have known this for a while every product they get seems loaded oh yeah marketing at its best!(worst) 5 Staring this video and favorite d remember always question the answers!

[Bucknellbison]

I hate beckett boards, moderators, this is one more thing about beckett I can hate. Way to bring that up man, thanks for the heads up on this, 5 stars.

[williamhbonney2]

Jokes on us though because people dont wanna do anything about it...its too addicting a hobby for most people to stop busting to get UD to change things...i myself have stopped busting UD product recently for other reasons

[Bigjtplaya]

What a fuckin joke, wtf is going on with those dick heads opening it, there acting like it's run of the mill type cards when they are 2 of the best cards of the decade in TWO fucking boxes, I spent 3 grand on this stuff and to know I was fucked from the start pisses me off beyond words.

[srslychris]

amen.

[fsabala]

it is ridiculous

[DeltaPi1049]

The Beckett video is on the front page of the beckett webpage. Go there and it stares you right in the face.

[sportscollectoroz]

Here's the link to those who haven't seen the bogus box break.

[mattwiesner95]

link doesnt work

[fbtracker44]

I agree. The Peterson and the Payton dual cut were the 2 best cards you could pull from Exquisite, and they got them both.

[jbmmadman]

31 pages now...I've become convinced Beckett knew nothing, I believe Upper Deck is culpable in this matter hence why we've had no response from them...

[redsrul3015]

even though i love seeing beckett pull those ridiculous cards........i completely agree

[NiggaTubeDotCom]

Right on! Fuck Upper Deck.

[ReservoirDogg76]

if you watch the video again you can see david lee is thinking to himself "oh shit, we're screwed" when they kept pulling the sick cards.

what a joke, how can anyone bust an UD product after this?

[cuseman2001]

Are you deleting comments for your video/ That is pretty weak. My question is WHy just boycott UD. Why not stop using Beckett forum if you believe in your theory. Just a question

-wheeler281

[spydermat]

amen brother, screw upper dick

[spydermat]

amen brother, screw upper dick

[Kelso242424]

UD sucks !!!! Total B.S. way to screw the little people.

[cuseman2001]

What up my man. The one question I have is why boycott UD but keep using Beckett if you have such strong beliefs?? Just a question Great video.

-wheeler281

[deboe696989]

whats the link to this break?