Love the shirt... couldn't quite make it out at first because of the hair being in the way, however, I have just the mindset that would look for and find something like that funny. BTW I'm so grateful that aside from these videos you're reaching out to your community promoting education, proper. Stay great!
@Krappman Well wanting was never a factor to me. I was once asked 'Do you want to be relate to a monkey?' by a Creationist and that made me realize I never considered whether I want Evolution to be true or not. I merely defend what is fact and I despise anyone who dictates what is and what is not by their own personal wanting. Evolution shows that all animals act differently, humans should act like humans.
Why is it that creationists have such a hard time accepting that man is a spiecies of apes, and a decendant of earlier apes, but wholeheartedly embrace the fact that we at least twice in "their" history all people were made from incestous relations, and infact are inbred? For me, I rather be an ape than a source of inbreeding.
@jpmetroidkiller96 That's a girl actually! But yea, worst kind of ignorance, they simply don't understand taxonomy therefor think it's total bullshit.
AronRa was very elegant in his response, even showing people making fun of him to make points. Why are people so offended to be part of the great ape family? It won't change who you are to admit it.
Look, creationists are all willfully insane, there is no point in arguing with them. Creationists won't be convinced no matter what, because they're *choosing* to be ignorant. They're *choosing* to believe in a story that's ridiculous on the face of it, a story that has been disproved in every possible way. Educate people so they learn the truth, but don't waste time trying to debate or convince a creationist. They don't want to know the truth.
in life there are so many details.. that nobody really knows anything for sure. but the debate on what little we know and it could be false for what is truth i guess is reasonable.
@Yaylin2 I knew those Sumerians were lying to us. Damn those ziggurat building, law-writing, and occasionally immortality seeking bastards whose society was already well developed by that time!
Why couldn't my science teacher make this stuff anywhere near this interesting?!!!!, ....oh right I forgot, I went to school in North Central Texas ;)
If I had met this guy in person at first glance I would probably think he was some sort or ignorant burned out biker lol ,but to my shock as soon as I began a conversation with him I would have to concede that he's a bloody genius !!!
It's strange that a guy like Aron debates people like this. They can properly argue because the creationist side won't come to terms about what arguments entail... but somehow they seem to have that same idea in their heads about the evolutionist side. I guess it comes down to a single question: Why do creationists assume that evolutionists are dogmatically defending their beliefs? Reversed, it's an easy question to answer... but where does this idea of an "evolutionist conspiracy" come from?
Get this, a pack of dog doo want you to believe, that a butterfly understood the concept of aerodynamics and flight, as well as bio-mechanics, and then designed himself, ..er?, ...before he even had a brain. ha ha.
@AronRaa : I want you to know, your videos have motivated me to learn more. I understand evolution better now. I have purchased several books as a direct result of watching your videos. Thank you for doing great work. What you do is a public service.
@airborne4325 what makes you think that Islam is wrong and christianity is right? And don't cite the bible, because muslims can just as easily cite their quran. It's pure arrogance, you think you're right just because its what YOU believe. You're so close minded and ignorant you can't begin to fathom "Hey, all these other religions think the same way I do, how do I know I'm really right?"
@wohodude100 Well you are right abt 1 thing, I am closed minded when it comes to my faith in Jesus Christ. It is all abt faith man. if you dont want to hear what I am trying to say, that is to help you stay out of hell, then do wht u want man. I know I am right...I am not arrogant, just confident in the trust of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...BIG diffrnce. wish u well man...hope u will find it in ur heart to ask God to heal u...HE will u know.
Respond to this video... Islam is all abt bullying people to follow their religion...if u dont then ur an infidel...or evil...but Jesus said, "Come unto me, all [ye] that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." This is ur salvation. Jesus will not accuse you, or bully you, but Love you.
@airborne4325 Wow, you clearly have not read your bible. The atrocities extremist muslims commit are just as bad as atrocities commited in the name of christianity. Just because islam is a younger religion and hasnt had the opportunity to be dragged kicking and screaming into a secular society does not automatically hand wave away the crusades, the inquisitions, abortion clinic bombers, etc. You clearly don't know christianity very well, its history is filled with bullying and violence
@CoreyWhiteCollar When I had the time, I did as much of my own research as possible, and was back in school for a while. Presently, I don't have time enough for either anymore.
@airborne4325 You'd better prostrate yourself before Allah before it's too late - Allah hates the deceived so you will surely burn in the lake of hellfire. A billion people can't be wrong, or can they?
@trooperJac Numbers and consensus of the majority have nothing to do with truth. The majority used to believe the earth was flat and the center of the universe. Thats such a retarded argument, if the majority was always right then disco and pet rocks would've actually been a good fucking idea, when they were just stupid fads
I'm an atheist... but I'm curious if anyone can tell me a good internet source to find experiments or information supporting abiogenesis. Nice video AronRa, keep it up :)
Abiogenesis really has nothing to do atheism, and neither does the big bang. If you don't believe in god, then you don't believe in god. If your question is "Is there a scientific theory about a mechanism of abiogenesis that is accepted by the majority of scientists?", then No. Sadly, it can't be tested, because EVOLUTION REQUIRES GEOLOGIC TIME. How can a scientist conduct a 2million year experiment?
Cool thing about using the scientific method for dating things (as opposed to the veterenarian method of dating, which is illegal in most states and a lot of countries), is that theists will deny it and say "Ohhh it's unreliable, blah blah blah" but then when there might be a chance that it can validate anything biblical (no matter how few and far between), they instantly jump up and down and say "See?! See?! Carbon dating proves how old it is! Wake up atheists!"
I wonder if that kid realizes that he's making himself look like a completely uneducated ass? I mean, it's always stupid to take on Aron in anything to do with evolutionary biology, but come on, even PCS had the gray matter to at least try and appear like something other than a complete moron.
"In the saaaame pit. In the saaaame pit! They`re all dying at the same time!" Right, Geerup, because things can`t accumulate can they? No, that`s impossible in your little universe.
@shrikechan so u have found dinosaur bones on the SURFACE of the earth since there is no difference between things found now and things found 2 million years ago. wake up
so wolves, pekenese, and chows are all different species or are they all canines with different characteristics? Whatdoesit take to make a fossil? How come the bones of the deer I shot 5 years ago disintegrated and didnt fossilize? Have u ever seen what a dead body in water turns to in short order to include bones? It doesnt fossilize it rots. It takes quick covering, lack of oxygen, and pressure to make fossils. like what would happen during a receding flood. maybe the flood of the bible
@bethaddjkp As to the status of canine characteristics, please see my most recent video. /watch?v=bJ-DawQKPr8
As for the process of fossilization, you're essentially correct, except that there was never any global flood. We know that for certain and can prove it many different ways. You religious teachers have lied to you all your life. Sorry.
@AronRa How do you explain the ocean fossils found many thousands of feet above sea level. What then is your theory on how the fossils were buried quickly under great pressure and a lack of oxygen. One could say the same about your secular humanist teachers lying to you. Sorry.
@NathanWubs Isn`t it odd how there are so many people now who want to either make everyone think Christianity is not a religion but "a relationship with God" or make us believe that "true followers of Christ" are not Christian? Its almost like they don`t like being associated with Christianity or religion anymore. Strange . . .
@shrikechan you know why Republicans like to be called The Tea Party now? It's to distance themselves from the disaster known as the Bush Years. Same thing for Christianity and 'Buddy Jesus' followers. It's a simply a PR makeover.
@bethaddjkp We can measure how fast the Himalayas are still rising as a result of the Indian subcontinent crashing into the Eurasian supercontinent. What is now the highest mountain range on earth used to be the sea floor between two colliding tectonic plates. Look it up and then get back to me about who is lying to who.
@bethaddjkp: Regional uplift, sometimes to rather extreme levels. Plate tectonics will do that. Consider that the Himalayas were sea floor before the India subcontinent squeezed them upward with its motion. Consider the Maroon Bells in Colorado, which plainly show sedimentary deposits from Jurassic times at 14,000 ft.
@bethaddjkp: The processes of fossilization are well documented on the web; wikipedia will tell about different types and methods. Most all require the bones to be completely buried and excluded from oxygen so as to stop decay and allow complete perfusion with mineral rich, but unoxygenated water. Mineralization might take hundreds to thousands of years. One thing it doesn't require is pressure, though piling up overburden usually involves it. Read about Tollund Man; he was on the way.
@bethaddjkp By certain key traits we can identify certain basal primates as strepsirrhines. And since we still have strepshirrhines, we know they have wet noses. It's not really that hard to figure out.
@AronRa What you say here doesnt mesh with your chart. You have two lineages on your chart in the video and your wet nose primates ends after only one entry and the other continues for what you say is millions of years. That is why I asked. According to your chart wet nose primates havent been around for millions of years.
@bethaddjkp: It seems sort of arcane for you to just assume a timeline along the horizontal axis even though none is indicated nor mentioned, or even suggested. Do you find that this happens often to you?
You'd think one man who is so totally bankrupt in evolutionary knowledge, not to mention honesty, integrity, and basic human decency, would simply slither back into his hole, after getting so many bloody noses (I counted about 20)! Not Geerup! Some people know no shame. I mean, if you're going to take on someone like AronRa, I'd expect that person to at least make sure he knows the subject matter. Geerup's act is embarrassing to watch!
Lol the videos they made in your likeness were so pathetic. Like, "LOOK AT THIS CRAZY PERSON, HIS WORDS ARE BIG AND UNFAMILIAR TO ME! THIS MAKES ME INSECURE!" Vaguely reminds me of that episode of Rugrats where they confused the name "Sasquatch" with Satchmo aka Louis Armstrong (you know, the one that went to the moon). Diplodocous? Imposserous!
Do you find 18 year old college freshman females/males find you really smart and offer their vaginas/anuses to you to offer homage to your superior intellect. u dont fool me. Name a mistake on evolution u corrected u cannot and will not admit mistakes on evolution as it would make the premis of your whole religion void. People point out in others the things they hate most about themselves. Your religion secular humanism is just as important to u as mine, is to me. Whoa Hoa China Grove.
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@bethaddjkp I don't have a religion -of any sort. I think it would be your job to name a mistake in evolution which you then want me to correct. Thus far, you have only made mistakes -which I have corrected. That's probably why you resorted to petty insults so quickly. But this is an intellectual matter for me, and you cannot distort it into an emotional one instead.
@AronRa Merriam Webster online dictionary Definition of RELIGION a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith I wasnt trying to be insulting I was trying to be funny. Hope someday you evolve a sense of humor. Secular Humanism (evolution) was founded after God to refute God's claims to creation so it is you that has something to prove. you cant even admit there is design in nature, u dont have to call it God but there is order and design anybody can see that
@bethaddjkp First of all, I'm not a secular humanist. But I still feel it important to point out that secular humanism is not the same thing as evolution, and that most 'evolutionists' are definitely NOT secular humanists! Neither does SH have anything to do the claims made by men and projected onto the gods they imagine. I *do* admit design in nature, and have explained (in the 7th FFoC) how those designs came to be. So you're wrong on every point you've tried to make. Care to try again?
@bethaddjkp Oh yes, one more error. Your dictionary definition doesn't apply either to myself or secular humanism because of the requirement of faith, which I don't have and secular humanism doesn't want.
@AronRa I already gave you the merriam webster dictionary definition of faith. It fits your belief system. you can say it doesnt but you saying it doesnt, doesnt change the definition. You just dont want to admit that some of what you cannot definitively prove in evolution/secular humanism requires an element of faith as that would reveal your religion and its' attempt to discredit mine.
@bethaddjkp I already knew the dictionary definition, and have already shown why it doesn't apply to my position. That you refuse to admit your own error and/or failure is sadly typical of the sort of people who make the accusations you do. It is a sort of projection that I call "the pot calling the silverware black".
@AronRa I was wondering how you explain the cambrian explosion. I understand that all the films existed in this one layer. doesn't this conflict with the idea that "natural selection" takes many years to play out? Doesn't science call this the "big bang" of evolution for a reason? How did all the known films just seem to pop into existence with no evidence of evolving? 800 pound gorilla?
You totally misunderstood. This post of yours is proof that you don't listen to any science, only try to refute it. The cambrian explosion took place over a LONG period of time. He said that. You're acting like it was over night. Nothing POPPED into existence. That's religion that says "popped" with their 6 days thing. Pay more attention please. The answers are right there.
thanks for the reference to your other video, very informative. I'm not sure if it had the answer I was looking for. I get your explanations. But my question is, is there any evidence that the known films evolved over the cambrian explosion? I'v heard that they all seem to be there from the beginning to the end. I remember someone saying that there are 23? films present at the start of the explosion and 23? films present at the end of the explosion. Is that true?appreciate your sincerity.
@romney27 The term, 'plylum' is an arbitrary designation which has no meaning in the realm of modern phylogenetics -because such cannot be objectively determined. But it appears that there were actually more phyla in Cambrian and pre-Cambrian strata than what has survived that age.
@AronRa This is bullshit there all animals of there own KIND!!..dumb fuckin evolutionist..science cant even make one single protein!!.or get all LEFT handed amino acids its a paradox..iam sure this jackass thinks miller made building blocks..this long hair moron needs to take a basic chemistry class..now we got crystals that brought life here..yeah ok ,thats a testable science..maybe longhaired morons with assumptions like this know everything..what a fuckin joke..this is not science..its BS!!!
@5tonyvvvv: Ahhhh, Tony. What kind would that be, exactly? Would you say they are the Cambrian kind? The creepy-crawly plus sessile plus trilobite kind? Can you expand your kind widely enough to include anomalocarus along with opabinia? How about kimberella? Better, are you ready to define kinds for us? It would be a blessing to know what exactly they are.
Why don't you challenge me on Miller's findings? I think we could really make hay on that.
@puncheex Homochirality proves evolution can never happen..but this is now separate from there lies..evolutionists would rather believe in some chemistry unknown to science than intelligence..they want to explain all life and how it changed but not the first cell..there's some stubborn logic...they dont want it in there theory because evolution falls apart..
Sometimes I question why I watch so many youtube videos. I watch some of the most idiotic morons defending their primitive beliefs and spouting this or that... and it saddens me. But then... I find someone like you, AronRa. I find a man who is eloquent, intelligent and patient, but not afraid to say shit when the word is called for.
And so I want to thank you. You give me hope for humanity. You help me to believe that we CAN overcome the shackles of fundamentalists still around our ankles.
I'm fully aware that the god hypothesis is wrong. It's based on flawed "evidence" & doesn't even pass initial presentation. If you want people to take the presmise of a god seriously, then you have to try harder. Which god do you mean? What is your evidence. "Because HE says so" is not evidence. It's heresay. If that's all you have, then it's not a hypothesis or a theory, it's called imagination. Your imagination does give hope, but its just fiction.
@CrossTheGrigori u misunderstand me. Iamnot tryingtoconvinceu Christ is right. Thatisbetweenuandhim. Iamtrying2tellu your psuedo-science is wrong. u simply regurgitate what a scientist says. Is that not hearsay also? If u want people to take evolution seriously, then u have to try harder, more importantly when u dont know something say I DONT KNOW and quit making things up. Talk about imagination have u seen the critters they put together based off of one tooth and then called it science
You are trying to mock science in an attempt to lessen it's credibility, but only end up making yourself look unschooled. Science abhors faith. Faith is an internal, strong need to believe in something regardless of evidence. Science is based on evidence. With evidence, scientists draw conclusions and make EDUCATED hypotheses. There is no faith. Those that have faith in it are deluded. They tend to be proven wrong. ALL the time. You misunderstand science, thus call it pseudo.
@CrossTheGrigori Science is great. Iam not mocking science, justyour version ofscience. Ifyou dontknow something forafact it takes anelement of faithto believeit. Thereare manyFACTS sciencehas discovered. ifthe scienceis PROVEN I believeit uwould bea fool notto. but when u take a tooth or small piece of bone and then draw a pic based on it and come to a far fetched conclusion and u refuse to allow debate on it and call people who dont believe u stupid. I dont believe in that psuedo-science
I am actually very kind, but when someone is being deliberately misleading and refuses to accept facts, while claiming to be interested in the truth, I see no need to be kind. Simply because you are brainwashed by the garbage Kirk and Ray spew, doesn't mean it's true. Evolution is a proven science. If you have specific claims against it, make them. You are just being vague intentionally. What tooth? Who? You rely on rumor. Go ahead and debate if you can, but you haven't so far.
You say you shouldn't believe in any science you don't understand personally. By your logic, you shouldn't believe in any science. Do you know for a FACT how your computer works? You may have a general idea, but I'll bet you're no expert, yet you believe it works. Do you know how relativity works? Do you know how Quantum physics works? I'll bet you don't. In fact, do you have the slightest clue how your own brain works? But you believe you have one. You'd be surprised how it works.
@CrossTheGrigori I agreewith yourlogic and by nature the magnificent creations aroundus Ican c ther isorder anddesign inits creation Ican deduce theirwasa creator udonthave tocallitGodbut ifu dont c orderand designin r universe u r intellectually dishonest Your example of the brain is a good 1 the computer is very complex andwas built bysomebody smart Bycomparison a computer is arock compared to abrain if a lesscomplex computer wasbuilt by somebody amore complexbrain musthave beenbuilt aswell
I agree that there's a great deal of order, but think about this for a sec. If there was no order, then things would fly apart and nothing would be cohesive. Order is a must, but it doesn't mean someone put it there. Take ants. They are not smart at all, yet they are capable of brilliant feats of engineering. They build complex tunnels and find food... alone they are dumb, collective, they are still dumb, but brilliant. The universe is that way. It's called Emergence. Research it...
@CrossTheGrigori So its smart yet dumb??/ You have taken both sides of the argument. this what I am talking about. if you dont know say I DONT KNOW dont make shit up. Emergence? another way to say something out of nothing from nobody. See, and you secular humanists say your religion has no miracles. water to wine is nothing compared to everything from nothing. There are aspects of your science that are true but you cloud them with this magical something from nothing from nobody crap.
@CrossTheGrigori your example of order starts out alright and then u start with the miracle stuff again. u say u see order but it doesnt mean someone ordered it. you look at a car, a house, a plane, streets etc...and u can see order but you dont believe they magically appeared from nothing yet our universe is vastly more complex and it appeared in order and design magically. I cant believe you and if u thought about it long enough u wouldnt believe u
You can't understand abiogenesis or cosmology. Period. You just can't. You refuse to accept science or any of it's findings. You shrug it off because it's too complex for you. Religion is easy. "God did it." It's something your mind can handle and you're allowed to express your hatred of other people through it. I won't try to educate you any further because you outright refuse to listen. I DO know because I read, I observe and I use logic to determine the facts. You don't.
@CrossTheGrigori Because I observed the same things you did but come to a different conclusion, its too complex for me and I am stupid? and u call us hateful? Science is easy too "nobody did it, its random magic" and when an element of what u believe is found not to be true you will make up another theory to replace it. I have listened and u havent convinced me. I DO know because I read, I observe and I use logic too. Thanks for your opinions. It was fun debating you. Have a good weekend.
No, why I call you an ignorant moron who cant learn is because you keep insisting science uses "magic" & that we "make things up." If we made up lies, don't you think we'd run into problems developing medicine or the internet just wouldn't work? Don't you think COMPLEX MATHMATICAL computations involving quantum physics would fail in testable & observable phenomenon? See that's where you fail. Jesus hasn't shown up because you're wrong. GPS works because we are right. End of story.
@CrossTheGrigori So when someone disagrees with you, call them names. Your not as tolerant as you think you are. and u say we want everybody to believe what we believe yet when people disagree with your religion u get angry and call them stupid. I didnt think we were talking about medicine, the internet, math, quantum physics or GPS, I thought we were talking about evolution. like I said believe what ever religion u want this is the USA we can do that here, at least for a little while longer
You started this with your intollerance & slander of AronRa, your mocking & accusations. You kept it up with a disjointed tirade of nonsensical musings about the bible, which you've proven that you haven't even read since you think the disciples walk around with swords & fight all the time. Is it any wonder I call you ignorant? It's not because you disagree, but because you are just wrong. You brought up the big bang & all of science. I answered with facts & you lost. U R PWNED. Bye
@CrossTheGrigori Aron is a big boy and a pretty smart guy, he can stand up for himself. I have seen enough of his videos to know he wouldnt have argued many of the points you argued with the lame examples you gave. They did carry swords, Peter even cut a dudes ear off when they laid hands on Jesus. I didnt say they were ninja turtles and "walk around with swords & fight all the time" but again u have a way of hearing what u want to hear. I am guessing, U R PWNED is an insult again.
That's right. Its an insult. Just like you insult others. We both do it, but I don't whine about it like you. You said Jesus condoned killing people & carrying swords. The bible passage you gave clearly shows that you are wrong & that he was trying to show that he does not & that it only leads to a worse situation. Didn't you read it? I did. THAT is why you get insulted. Because you don't know your own arguments, you don't know mine & all you do is try to cause trouble. FAIL. Bye.
@CrossTheGrigori Funny people can read something and get 2 different meanings. u read, Jesus says never fight or carry a weapon. If this were true Jesus would have told Peter to take his sword off and not wear it and he clearly did not even saying in another passage to get a sword I read, if your first response is violence it will likely cause the loss of your life by violence. Most importantly Jesus knew he HAD to die and Peter was interfering with God's will. Glad u read the bible though!!
@bethaddjkp Oh I doubt that anyone or anything could have interfered with god's plan for a human sacrifice of his son to himself. I mean there is no way that god could have just wiped the slate clean for everyone! Torture and death- then sin clensing.
Sadly by the same day next week, everyone was sinners again. Christianity didn't gain any real popularity for another 400 years. God should have waited until everyone knew the rules so as to maximize the benefit of being "sin free."
@TheOmegadusk There is no remission of sin without the sheding of blood. Sin is a capital offense worthy of a death sentence. Everybody always knew the rules, they just couldnt keep God's Holy standard and that is why there is a price to be payed. You can pay the bill yourself or Christ will pay it if u ask him to, but make no bones about it, the price will get paid one way or another.
@bethaddjkp How exactly did everyone know the "rules" if the so-called holy scripture has only been available for 1600 years- widely available for about 800 years? For 200,000 years (minimum) humans wandered around without any knowledge of the Yahweh cult or it's arcane rules.
Fact is that everyone dies, regardless of the amount of "sin" that they have committed. Hundreds of religions have claimed to know for certain what happens after death- your cult is just as wrong as they are.
If your silly book can have a different meaning to anyone who reads it, then obviously it isn't the work of an all knowing god who wanted to lay down rules for everyone to follow. If it were, then it would be clear in it's meaning. Instead, we have people like you who chose to think that someone preaching nonviolence also tells people to buy weapons & use them on a regular basis. This means Hitler was right. Jesus was a warrior & was telling him to stand up for the chosen race.
@CrossTheGrigori Does it matter what somebody thinks the meaning of a particular book is or is it more important that the meaning of the book is what the writer of the book says it is. It's meaning is pretty clear to me. I am sure if it says something you disagree with then u will simply apply a meaning that suits your world view author of the books meaning be damned. If u think Hitler was right about anything then u r as crazy as he was. Jesus was right "dont cast your pearls before swine"
"Right" & "wrong" are only things that exist within your own mind when dealing with interpretation. I don't expect you to understand that because you can't even understand basic scientific concepts. I never said Hitler was right, you said he was wrong.. but he arrived at his conclusions because of Jesus' inspiration. So did a lot of other wack jobs that kill doctors & spew profanity. And no, the book is not clear. That's one of the problems. What you describe is what everyone does.
@CrossTheGrigori Your fanaticism to make others believe what u believe reminds me of some of those crazy religious cults. I want u to believe what I do, because I sincerely believe if u dont you will go to hell. You dont have to believe that you will go to hell, but I do. So in my mind, I am trying to look out for you. BUT, if you dont believe, I wont call u a moron like u did to me, I'll just pray for you.
@bethaddjkp ... Wow !!! Your arrogance is staggering ... You're totally in the dark about it, aren't you ??? If you truely want to discuss & debate such subjects, pick up some books & read them ... Instead of praying, utilize your time reading ... I promise you, you'll feel better & you'll gain some wisdom ... It's a "no-lose" proposition ...
@MaitreyaRocket Interesting Theory. If I am sure of my beliefs I am arrogant and totally in the dark but if you are sure of yours you are a free thinking intellectual. THAT sounds like true arrogance. Do I pick up any books or do they have to be just the books you read since your books are clearly the only ones that matter.
@CrossTheGrigori u seek hope in evolution as i do in Christ. I hope Christ is right and I am not held responsible for my sin. you seek hope in evolution cuz if it were right you too would not be held responsible. Believe what u want but we cant both be right.
What are you trying to get at with the "held responsible" spiel? You're trying to invoke your religion. In the real world, we are ALL responsible for our actions & that is a fact of nature. Every action has a reaction. It's not always equal & opposite, but there is always a ramlification of what one does. God isn't needed for that. In fact, it's why we worry about uber religious types. Their faith tends to cause violence & bigotry based on whose god says who doesn't deserve to live.
@CrossTheGrigori not trying to get at anything, itswhat I believe, u canor cannot believe it I dontcare. Non-faith people have killed farmore people, Hitler 10 million, Stalin 20million, Mao 40million, Pol Pot 3million. Nowtell me thenumber ofpeople followers of Christ havekilled u arejust regurgitating a lie uwere told. Ur bigotted towardsChristians. udont wantus topractice r religionthough weallow uto followany religionu want Christians r theonly groupits acceptableto discriminate against
And finally... would you people stop trying to blame Hitler's actions on not beliving in god? Just do a google search and you will find that Hitler embraced Jesus as an inspiration for his movement and beliefs... seeing JESUS as an Aryan. And you think Hitler is only responsible for 10 million deaths? Wow. How small were the Crusades to you? The witch trials were small... but they happened.
@CrossTheGrigori "YOU PEOPLE"? So Hitler followed Christ? u know as much about history as you do science. he may have embraced his twisted view of Jesus, but not the Jesus of the bible. Jesus was a Jew not an Aryan all my numbers were conservative so we didnt have to argue minutia one is too many. I didnt say all deaths were from non-religious people just most tho your crusade example is poorly chosen if your land was stolen u would fight to take it back too
So you're telling me that anyone who disagrees with your version of God is wrong? Why couldn't Hitler have had the correct view of Christ? Listen to your own answer carefully, it will reveal a great deal to you if you do. Everyone wants to think their version of God is correct & can list many reasons why. That doesn't make it so. You are also saying it's okay to rape, murder & plunder in the name of your god? They wanted "their land" back? Yeah, great reason. Jesus teach that?
@CrossTheGrigori Yes are you telling me that anybody that doesnt believe in evolution/secular humanism is wrong? The only view of Christ I know of is the biblical version. Are you aware of another version of Christ where hesays I am aryan, kill the Jews? I didnt say its okay to rapemurderplunder but it is okay to defend yourself your religion your property there is a difference between murder and killing u can kill someone without murdering them
@CrossTheGrigori yes they wanted their land back just like you would want yours back if someone stole it from you. u own nothing u cant defend do u find it funny that the muslims(reason for the crusades) religion was founded 700 years after Christ and 6000 years after Judeaism and most of the muslim religious sites were literally built right on top of the Jewish and Christian sites Its almost like building a mosque on the site of ground zero read history its what muslims do
And as for the "holy land" I'm going to bust you on this. NOWHERE did Jesus ever say that "murder is wrong... UNLESS they steal your land, yo!" None of the thousands of people forced into fighting in the "holy land" lived there. It wasn't their home. They just wanted control over it. Do you realize that every religious site is built on top of someone else's? Xtianity has co-opted numerous rights, holidays & places to assimilate preexisting religions. Xtianity is a terminal disease.
@CrossTheGrigori you have no idea what Jesus taught until u read the bible so u cant speak on the subject, yet u will anyways. being a Christian doesnt mean being a pussy. The disciples carried swords, Jesus said there is a time to beat your plow shares into swords. if being a Christian meant u always lay down and let people walk all over u the Christian religion wouldnt have lasted a decade If u want to speak intelligently on Jesus you have to know what he taught.
Ok. Here's another part where you are just wrong. Clearly, you have not read the bible, nor understood it. I am not an atheist, nor christian and I have read it and understood it. The disciples didn't "carry swords" around with them. Jesus told them to buys swords ONCE in order to fulfill some prophecy about them being transgressors. He healed the damage done with one of those swords and condemned their use. It was a ruse to have him captured so he would eventually be crucified.
Jesus was against violence & spoke of turning the other cheek. This is why you & Hitler are no different. You see in the bible what you choose to. It's poetic dribble with no clear laws to obey, just ways for you to promote discrimination against anyone you don't like. Science & atheism DO NOT do that. To an atheist, all meatbags are the same. To science, everything is a wonder of nature's mechanics. To xtians, nothing is anything unless GOD says so & god says what you want him to.
@bethaddjkp You merely "hope" that your religion is right, yet you make statements of absolutism casually and make your decisions based upon a hopelessly inaccurate bronze age text? You make the assertion that evolution requires the same faith as your religion does?
I cannot begin to explain how ridiculous your thought process is. Evolution is a proven scientific theory- nothing has disproven it in over 200 years. In fact, all evidence has only supported it to be true.
@bethaddjkp Are you trying to assert that evolution by natural selection is a religion. This always strikes me as a particularly desperate approach, a bit like saying "Yes my position is weak and unfounded but so is yours".
Wrong, the religious have 'faith', evolution is based on empirical evidence. No FAITH needed.
@trooperJac Evolution in all its ever changing forms is a religion. Merriam Webster online dictionary Definitionof RELIGION a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith. Trying to assert that evolution (secular humanism) is not a religion and requiresno faith 2 believe in its many miracles strikes me as a particularly desperate approach. A bit like saying the aspects of your religion that u cant prove are much worse than the aspects of my religion that I cant prove
@bethaddjkp That's exactly why evolution or science in general is not a religion. It's not held to on faith or with ardor. It's accepted due to the overwhelming observable facts that form the theory and any scientist would disregard it tomorrow if evidence pointed to the fact that it was all wrong - although at this stage the chances of that happening are too small to take seriously.
Also, what miracles - miracles belong in the realm of magic and are impossible by definition.
Damn it to hell, I totally forgot about this video.... I have a wedding shower for me and my fiance that is themed "a touch of pink" and I would have LOVED to find out where you got that shirt.... man would that shirt have pissed off my soon-to-be mother-inlaw... and that would have made me very happy.
I really miss your pwning of creotards. I mean I know it may feel like wasted time to you in a sense, but really there is nothing like watching a Goliath crush an ant, if you catch my drift. And I miss the utter devastation.
What i find AMAZING ARROGANT is that you think that people who lived before darwin had no idea about evolution! People even ancient man were highly intelligent and capable of rational thought. After all they got us to where we are today and deserve our respect as such! People who think ancient man were stupid and without understanding of the world around them are the real fools and i pity them!
@CONSTRINGACY Your post seems to have been aimed at me. However if you've seen many of my previous videos, you'd know that I talked about Lamarck & Linnaeus, Aristotle & Anaximander, and that I have already explained that early naturalists often understood that evolution happens, even if they didn't know how it happened, or how far that could or did go.
Love the shirt... couldn't quite make it out at first because of the hair being in the way, however, I have just the mindset that would look for and find something like that funny. BTW I'm so grateful that aside from these videos you're reaching out to your community promoting education, proper. Stay great!
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Seems you have a Klingon look-alike.
JOTRKID 1 month ago
It's extremely disheartening how some people actually take pride in their ignorance.
PutrydByle 2 months ago
huahah epic shirt
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@Krappman Well wanting was never a factor to me. I was once asked 'Do you want to be relate to a monkey?' by a Creationist and that made me realize I never considered whether I want Evolution to be true or not. I merely defend what is fact and I despise anyone who dictates what is and what is not by their own personal wanting. Evolution shows that all animals act differently, humans should act like humans.
pat5168 3 months ago
Why is it that creationists have such a hard time accepting that man is a spiecies of apes, and a decendant of earlier apes, but wholeheartedly embrace the fact that we at least twice in "their" history all people were made from incestous relations, and infact are inbred? For me, I rather be an ape than a source of inbreeding.
Krappman 4 months ago
Hahaha! The guy at 4:28 - 5:06 is fucking dumbass! Hahahahaha
jpmetroidkiller96 4 months ago
@jpmetroidkiller96
Yep..."I don't understand the words you're saying, therefore you are stupid and thus necessarily wrong!"
PutrydByle 2 months ago 2
@jpmetroidkiller96 That's a girl actually! But yea, worst kind of ignorance, they simply don't understand taxonomy therefor think it's total bullshit.
AronRa was very elegant in his response, even showing people making fun of him to make points. Why are people so offended to be part of the great ape family? It won't change who you are to admit it.
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Look, creationists are all willfully insane, there is no point in arguing with them. Creationists won't be convinced no matter what, because they're *choosing* to be ignorant. They're *choosing* to believe in a story that's ridiculous on the face of it, a story that has been disproved in every possible way. Educate people so they learn the truth, but don't waste time trying to debate or convince a creationist. They don't want to know the truth.
mikefromwa 4 months ago
in life there are so many details.. that nobody really knows anything for sure. but the debate on what little we know and it could be false for what is truth i guess is reasonable.
nanocalp 4 months ago
The Earth is only about 6,298 years old.
Yaylin2 5 months ago
@Yaylin2
You're funny
Wordlaw12 4 months ago
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@Yaylin2: "The Earth is only about 6,298 years old."
Plus or minus about 4 billion years.
mikefromwa 4 months ago
@Yaylin2 According to what?
Akira625 4 months ago
@Akira625 Kenesieology. Occult research. Ouija board. Familiar Spirits. Bible Days added up.
The Truth instilled in each human being.
Yaylin2 4 months ago
@Yaylin2 Which means there's no scientific basis for that age.
Akira625 4 months ago
@Yaylin2 I knew those Sumerians were lying to us. Damn those ziggurat building, law-writing, and occasionally immortality seeking bastards whose society was already well developed by that time!
Bernstein1917 4 months ago
@UnknownUserName4267 That's a good idea. I'm gonna start one of those and publish it on my blog.
xJoeEDangerouslyx 5 months ago
*sigh* People who make fun of others for being smarter than them for being smart or understanding obscure words are part of the problem.
xJoeEDangerouslyx 5 months ago
Definition of a moron: Someone that thinks he/she can convince AronRa that he is wrong, by spewing creationist bullshit in a Youtube post.
martingoldfire 5 months ago 2
GEERUP is just sad in his pants because AronRa uses words he cant understand or evidently pronounciate. Plus he's just plain wrong about everything
Spocktacular96 6 months ago
Geerup,
Another person added to my 'he's a piece of shit' list.
UnknownUserName4267 6 months ago
I love that shirt.
Pandonodrim 6 months ago
Wow Aron you need a real challenge. Maybe Jesus himself and you would make him eat his Damn book.
Atrofia2 7 months ago
flippityfloppityfloo! this guy is cool.
fvgdfbdokd 7 months ago
AronRa for president
sonykroket 7 months ago
"If I make a mistake I'll admit it and I'll correct it."
I wish Thunderf00t would do this.
June28July 8 months ago
AronRa.... KICKS F***ING ASS!!!
June28July 8 months ago 3
IN YOUR FACE!!
mclem51 8 months ago
Boom!
HeatherSpoonheim 8 months ago
Why couldn't my science teacher make this stuff anywhere near this interesting?!!!!, ....oh right I forgot, I went to school in North Central Texas ;)
Cougar139tweak 11 months ago
This guy's a robot.
uriituw 11 months ago
This guy's a robot.
uriituw 11 months ago
Hey Aron have u written any books ? And if so where can I find them and what are there titles?
jstillwell1980 11 months ago
If I had met this guy in person at first glance I would probably think he was some sort or ignorant burned out biker lol ,but to my shock as soon as I began a conversation with him I would have to concede that he's a bloody genius !!!
jstillwell1980 11 months ago
It's strange that a guy like Aron debates people like this. They can properly argue because the creationist side won't come to terms about what arguments entail... but somehow they seem to have that same idea in their heads about the evolutionist side. I guess it comes down to a single question: Why do creationists assume that evolutionists are dogmatically defending their beliefs? Reversed, it's an easy question to answer... but where does this idea of an "evolutionist conspiracy" come from?
instereovideos 11 months ago
AronRaa is a God, oops, is a, Great Guy . See how things can easily get out of hand. Even for the most vigilant, and well srubbed .
evidenceonly 1 year ago
Ida is an extinct monkey, nothing more.
Get this, a pack of dog doo want you to believe, that a butterfly understood the concept of aerodynamics and flight, as well as bio-mechanics, and then designed himself, ..er?, ...before he even had a brain. ha ha.
PhuqueU 1 year ago
AronRa came to this planet to teach us.
7A35 1 year ago
@7A35
Interdimentional beings exist, yes
AronRaa 1 year ago
@AronRaa : I want you to know, your videos have motivated me to learn more. I understand evolution better now. I have purchased several books as a direct result of watching your videos. Thank you for doing great work. What you do is a public service.
7A35 1 year ago
liek your vids thumbs up.
880330145789 1 year ago
AronRa is God.
guambracargoso 1 year ago
Duh...of course ur wrong buddy...Allah is a false god. I hope you repent and ask Jesus to forgive you.
airborne4325 1 year ago
@airborne4325 what makes you think that Islam is wrong and christianity is right? And don't cite the bible, because muslims can just as easily cite their quran. It's pure arrogance, you think you're right just because its what YOU believe. You're so close minded and ignorant you can't begin to fathom "Hey, all these other religions think the same way I do, how do I know I'm really right?"
wohodude100 9 months ago
@wohodude100 Well you are right abt 1 thing, I am closed minded when it comes to my faith in Jesus Christ. It is all abt faith man. if you dont want to hear what I am trying to say, that is to help you stay out of hell, then do wht u want man. I know I am right...I am not arrogant, just confident in the trust of my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ...BIG diffrnce. wish u well man...hope u will find it in ur heart to ask God to heal u...HE will u know.
airborne4325 9 months ago
Respond to this video... Islam is all abt bullying people to follow their religion...if u dont then ur an infidel...or evil...but Jesus said, "Come unto me, all [ye] that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest." This is ur salvation. Jesus will not accuse you, or bully you, but Love you.
airborne4325 9 months ago
@airborne4325 Wow, you clearly have not read your bible. The atrocities extremist muslims commit are just as bad as atrocities commited in the name of christianity. Just because islam is a younger religion and hasnt had the opportunity to be dragged kicking and screaming into a secular society does not automatically hand wave away the crusades, the inquisitions, abortion clinic bombers, etc. You clearly don't know christianity very well, its history is filled with bullying and violence
wohodude100 9 months ago 2
I love this guy. He's right about everything.
drche420 1 year ago
I watch all of your vids. Do you do independent research? Formal schooling? Or a bit of both?
CoreyWhiteCollar 1 year ago
@CoreyWhiteCollar When I had the time, I did as much of my own research as possible, and was back in school for a while. Presently, I don't have time enough for either anymore.
AronRa 1 year ago 7
@AronRa Hey AronRa, do u have a forked tongue? Because you sure sssssssssssssound like it, you snake.
Even with all your mumbo jumbo and fancy vocab....please ask Jesus Christ to come and save you from destruction Man!!
airborne4325 1 year ago
@airborne4325 You'd better prostrate yourself before Allah before it's too late - Allah hates the deceived so you will surely burn in the lake of hellfire. A billion people can't be wrong, or can they?
trooperJac 1 year ago
@trooperJac Numbers and consensus of the majority have nothing to do with truth. The majority used to believe the earth was flat and the center of the universe. Thats such a retarded argument, if the majority was always right then disco and pet rocks would've actually been a good fucking idea, when they were just stupid fads
wohodude100 9 months ago
@AronRa well lets hope that the time becomes available for you :)
greatnessj22 1 year ago
@AronRa You may possibly be my favoritest YouTuber of all time.
Carry on, my good man, carry on!
ciaochowbella 4 months ago
I'm an atheist... but I'm curious if anyone can tell me a good internet source to find experiments or information supporting abiogenesis. Nice video AronRa, keep it up :)
Chronikhit 1 year ago
@Chronikhit
Abiogenesis really has nothing to do atheism, and neither does the big bang. If you don't believe in god, then you don't believe in god. If your question is "Is there a scientific theory about a mechanism of abiogenesis that is accepted by the majority of scientists?", then No. Sadly, it can't be tested, because EVOLUTION REQUIRES GEOLOGIC TIME. How can a scientist conduct a 2million year experiment?
Its irrelevant. I'm atheist, btw.
drche420 1 year ago
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Sablechicken's impression is pretty good.
Sabohaque 1 year ago
Thanks AronRa just thanks!!
pumpstations 1 year ago 17
I fucking LOVE that shirt!
Cool thing about using the scientific method for dating things (as opposed to the veterenarian method of dating, which is illegal in most states and a lot of countries), is that theists will deny it and say "Ohhh it's unreliable, blah blah blah" but then when there might be a chance that it can validate anything biblical (no matter how few and far between), they instantly jump up and down and say "See?! See?! Carbon dating proves how old it is! Wake up atheists!"
berner 1 year ago 2
This guy is trying hard to look like ape to convince people they are sons of apes :D He is missing the banana in his other hand lol
MrChatingKicker 1 year ago
I wonder if that kid realizes that he's making himself look like a completely uneducated ass? I mean, it's always stupid to take on Aron in anything to do with evolutionary biology, but come on, even PCS had the gray matter to at least try and appear like something other than a complete moron.
Bernstein1917 1 year ago
So according to Geerup, if I die right now, and they find me near a dinosaur bone 100 years from now, we must have died at the same time. Please!!!
Enochsfury 1 year ago
Hahaha "Ma and Pa Clueless."
Leehofooks 1 year ago
thou hast truly said. creationists are full of shit.
by the way, wheat beer should be drank from a glass.
peace without idiotic beliefs
johnnierah 1 year ago
Aronra just destroyed any and all credibility from that idiot with pin point precision.
Baz0kable 1 year ago 3
BEST. SHIRT. EVAAR
s7eve1980 1 year ago
AronRa in pink = sexy bitch.
freakystyley4000 1 year ago 5
"In the saaaame pit. In the saaaame pit! They`re all dying at the same time!" Right, Geerup, because things can`t accumulate can they? No, that`s impossible in your little universe.
shrikechan 1 year ago
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@shrikechan so u have found dinosaur bones on the SURFACE of the earth since there is no difference between things found now and things found 2 million years ago. wake up
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
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I swear that looks like an older version of Ray Liotta.
uglyguy121909 1 year ago
so wolves, pekenese, and chows are all different species or are they all canines with different characteristics? Whatdoesit take to make a fossil? How come the bones of the deer I shot 5 years ago disintegrated and didnt fossilize? Have u ever seen what a dead body in water turns to in short order to include bones? It doesnt fossilize it rots. It takes quick covering, lack of oxygen, and pressure to make fossils. like what would happen during a receding flood. maybe the flood of the bible
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp As to the status of canine characteristics, please see my most recent video. /watch?v=bJ-DawQKPr8
As for the process of fossilization, you're essentially correct, except that there was never any global flood. We know that for certain and can prove it many different ways. You religious teachers have lied to you all your life. Sorry.
AronRa 1 year ago 37
@AronRa How do you explain the ocean fossils found many thousands of feet above sea level. What then is your theory on how the fossils were buried quickly under great pressure and a lack of oxygen. One could say the same about your secular humanist teachers lying to you. Sorry.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
I am NOT a Christian, but I am follower of Jesus Christ,
Sorry, you do not make the rules. You are a Christian. Not even knowing what you, yourself are kinda makes you seem like a troll.
NathanWubs 1 year ago
@NathanWubs Isn`t it odd how there are so many people now who want to either make everyone think Christianity is not a religion but "a relationship with God" or make us believe that "true followers of Christ" are not Christian? Its almost like they don`t like being associated with Christianity or religion anymore. Strange . . .
shrikechan 1 year ago
@shrikechan you know why Republicans like to be called The Tea Party now? It's to distance themselves from the disaster known as the Bush Years. Same thing for Christianity and 'Buddy Jesus' followers. It's a simply a PR makeover.
dubbleplusgood 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp We can measure how fast the Himalayas are still rising as a result of the Indian subcontinent crashing into the Eurasian supercontinent. What is now the highest mountain range on earth used to be the sea floor between two colliding tectonic plates. Look it up and then get back to me about who is lying to who.
AronRa 1 year ago 4
@bethaddjkp: Regional uplift, sometimes to rather extreme levels. Plate tectonics will do that. Consider that the Himalayas were sea floor before the India subcontinent squeezed them upward with its motion. Consider the Maroon Bells in Colorado, which plainly show sedimentary deposits from Jurassic times at 14,000 ft.
puncheex 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp: The processes of fossilization are well documented on the web; wikipedia will tell about different types and methods. Most all require the bones to be completely buried and excluded from oxygen so as to stop decay and allow complete perfusion with mineral rich, but unoxygenated water. Mineralization might take hundreds to thousands of years. One thing it doesn't require is pressure, though piling up overburden usually involves it. Read about Tollund Man; he was on the way.
puncheex 1 year ago
How do you know wet nose primates that no longer exist, but did millions of years ago, had wet noses?
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp By certain key traits we can identify certain basal primates as strepsirrhines. And since we still have strepshirrhines, we know they have wet noses. It's not really that hard to figure out.
AronRa 1 year ago 2
@AronRa What you say here doesnt mesh with your chart. You have two lineages on your chart in the video and your wet nose primates ends after only one entry and the other continues for what you say is millions of years. That is why I asked. According to your chart wet nose primates havent been around for millions of years.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp: It seems sort of arcane for you to just assume a timeline along the horizontal axis even though none is indicated nor mentioned, or even suggested. Do you find that this happens often to you?
puncheex 1 year ago
Whew! Geerup got totally demolished!
You'd think one man who is so totally bankrupt in evolutionary knowledge, not to mention honesty, integrity, and basic human decency, would simply slither back into his hole, after getting so many bloody noses (I counted about 20)! Not Geerup! Some people know no shame. I mean, if you're going to take on someone like AronRa, I'd expect that person to at least make sure he knows the subject matter. Geerup's act is embarrassing to watch!
Cootabux 1 year ago
Lol the videos they made in your likeness were so pathetic. Like, "LOOK AT THIS CRAZY PERSON, HIS WORDS ARE BIG AND UNFAMILIAR TO ME! THIS MAKES ME INSECURE!" Vaguely reminds me of that episode of Rugrats where they confused the name "Sasquatch" with Satchmo aka Louis Armstrong (you know, the one that went to the moon). Diplodocous? Imposserous!
Bardlettt 1 year ago
Do you find 18 year old college freshman females/males find you really smart and offer their vaginas/anuses to you to offer homage to your superior intellect. u dont fool me. Name a mistake on evolution u corrected u cannot and will not admit mistakes on evolution as it would make the premis of your whole religion void. People point out in others the things they hate most about themselves. Your religion secular humanism is just as important to u as mine, is to me. Whoa Hoa China Grove.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
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XGralgrathor 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp I don't have a religion -of any sort. I think it would be your job to name a mistake in evolution which you then want me to correct. Thus far, you have only made mistakes -which I have corrected. That's probably why you resorted to petty insults so quickly. But this is an intellectual matter for me, and you cannot distort it into an emotional one instead.
AronRa 1 year ago 19
@AronRa Merriam Webster online dictionary Definition of RELIGION a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith I wasnt trying to be insulting I was trying to be funny. Hope someday you evolve a sense of humor. Secular Humanism (evolution) was founded after God to refute God's claims to creation so it is you that has something to prove. you cant even admit there is design in nature, u dont have to call it God but there is order and design anybody can see that
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp First of all, I'm not a secular humanist. But I still feel it important to point out that secular humanism is not the same thing as evolution, and that most 'evolutionists' are definitely NOT secular humanists! Neither does SH have anything to do the claims made by men and projected onto the gods they imagine. I *do* admit design in nature, and have explained (in the 7th FFoC) how those designs came to be. So you're wrong on every point you've tried to make. Care to try again?
AronRa 1 year ago 2
@bethaddjkp Oh yes, one more error. Your dictionary definition doesn't apply either to myself or secular humanism because of the requirement of faith, which I don't have and secular humanism doesn't want.
AronRa 1 year ago
@AronRa I already gave you the merriam webster dictionary definition of faith. It fits your belief system. you can say it doesnt but you saying it doesnt, doesnt change the definition. You just dont want to admit that some of what you cannot definitively prove in evolution/secular humanism requires an element of faith as that would reveal your religion and its' attempt to discredit mine.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp I already knew the dictionary definition, and have already shown why it doesn't apply to my position. That you refuse to admit your own error and/or failure is sadly typical of the sort of people who make the accusations you do. It is a sort of projection that I call "the pot calling the silverware black".
AronRa 1 year ago 6
@bethaddjkp: Brother, do you have an odd, abrasive way of showing humor.
puncheex 1 year ago
@AronRa I was wondering how you explain the cambrian explosion. I understand that all the films existed in this one layer. doesn't this conflict with the idea that "natural selection" takes many years to play out? Doesn't science call this the "big bang" of evolution for a reason? How did all the known films just seem to pop into existence with no evidence of evolving? 800 pound gorilla?
romney27 1 year ago
@romney27
You totally misunderstood. This post of yours is proof that you don't listen to any science, only try to refute it. The cambrian explosion took place over a LONG period of time. He said that. You're acting like it was over night. Nothing POPPED into existence. That's religion that says "popped" with their 6 days thing. Pay more attention please. The answers are right there.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago 2
@CrossTheGrigori I can see by your response You are still waiting to evolve some patience and kindness.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@romney27 I explained the Cambrian explosion in the 6th Foundational Falsehood of Creationism.
AronRa 1 year ago 2
thanks for the reference to your other video, very informative. I'm not sure if it had the answer I was looking for. I get your explanations. But my question is, is there any evidence that the known films evolved over the cambrian explosion? I'v heard that they all seem to be there from the beginning to the end. I remember someone saying that there are 23? films present at the start of the explosion and 23? films present at the end of the explosion. Is that true?appreciate your sincerity.
romney27 1 year ago
@romney27 The term, 'plylum' is an arbitrary designation which has no meaning in the realm of modern phylogenetics -because such cannot be objectively determined. But it appears that there were actually more phyla in Cambrian and pre-Cambrian strata than what has survived that age.
AronRa 1 year ago
@AronRa This is bullshit there all animals of there own KIND!!..dumb fuckin evolutionist..science cant even make one single protein!!.or get all LEFT handed amino acids its a paradox..iam sure this jackass thinks miller made building blocks..this long hair moron needs to take a basic chemistry class..now we got crystals that brought life here..yeah ok ,thats a testable science..maybe longhaired morons with assumptions like this know everything..what a fuckin joke..this is not science..its BS!!!
5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
@5tonyvvvv: Ahhhh, Tony. What kind would that be, exactly? Would you say they are the Cambrian kind? The creepy-crawly plus sessile plus trilobite kind? Can you expand your kind widely enough to include anomalocarus along with opabinia? How about kimberella? Better, are you ready to define kinds for us? It would be a blessing to know what exactly they are.
Why don't you challenge me on Miller's findings? I think we could really make hay on that.
Got a problem with long hair, eh? How very 50s.
puncheex 1 year ago
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@puncheex Homochirality proves evolution can never happen..but this is now separate from there lies..evolutionists would rather believe in some chemistry unknown to science than intelligence..they want to explain all life and how it changed but not the first cell..there's some stubborn logic...they dont want it in there theory because evolution falls apart..
5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
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@puncheex evolutionists have way more blind faith.,thats why they dont want it part of evolution..evolution falls apart then.
it seems that only atheists can be scientist,and everyone else is just ignorant and uneducated.
5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
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@puncheex In regards to RNA/DNA - could you please explain the problem of Chirality?
Although Miller and Urey formed amino acids in their experiments in 1952 - all the amino acids that formed lacked Chirality.!!
It is a universally accepted fact of chemistry that chirality cannot be created in chemical molecules by a random process.or in a test tube
they believe in some chemistry unknown to science.
5tonyvvvv 1 year ago
107people are retarded
DurexDurpaneu2 1 year ago
Love the t-shirt
MnE4life 1 year ago
Awesome shirt.
graaar 1 year ago
Sometimes I question why I watch so many youtube videos. I watch some of the most idiotic morons defending their primitive beliefs and spouting this or that... and it saddens me. But then... I find someone like you, AronRa. I find a man who is eloquent, intelligent and patient, but not afraid to say shit when the word is called for.
And so I want to thank you. You give me hope for humanity. You help me to believe that we CAN overcome the shackles of fundamentalists still around our ankles.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori
Very nicely stated!
Cootabux 1 year ago
@Cootabux
Thank you. Thunderf00t, ZOMGitsCriss and OGjimbo are also three people who keep my hope alive for the future of humanity.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
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@CrossTheGrigori "Thank you. Thunderf00t, ZOMGitsCriss and OGjimbo are also three people who keep my hope alive for the future of humanity."
I would also recommend a new one in Ireland. He goes by the alias MrODub.
AloofPeregrine 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori My God gives me hope too. I am glad your God does the same for you. Problem is............... we both cant be right
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
Who said anything about a god?
I'm fully aware that the god hypothesis is wrong. It's based on flawed "evidence" & doesn't even pass initial presentation. If you want people to take the presmise of a god seriously, then you have to try harder. Which god do you mean? What is your evidence. "Because HE says so" is not evidence. It's heresay. If that's all you have, then it's not a hypothesis or a theory, it's called imagination. Your imagination does give hope, but its just fiction.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori u misunderstand me. Iamnot tryingtoconvinceu Christ is right. Thatisbetweenuandhim. Iamtrying2tellu your psuedo-science is wrong. u simply regurgitate what a scientist says. Is that not hearsay also? If u want people to take evolution seriously, then u have to try harder, more importantly when u dont know something say I DONT KNOW and quit making things up. Talk about imagination have u seen the critters they put together based off of one tooth and then called it science
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
You are trying to mock science in an attempt to lessen it's credibility, but only end up making yourself look unschooled. Science abhors faith. Faith is an internal, strong need to believe in something regardless of evidence. Science is based on evidence. With evidence, scientists draw conclusions and make EDUCATED hypotheses. There is no faith. Those that have faith in it are deluded. They tend to be proven wrong. ALL the time. You misunderstand science, thus call it pseudo.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori Science is great. Iam not mocking science, justyour version ofscience. Ifyou dontknow something forafact it takes anelement of faithto believeit. Thereare manyFACTS sciencehas discovered. ifthe scienceis PROVEN I believeit uwould bea fool notto. but when u take a tooth or small piece of bone and then draw a pic based on it and come to a far fetched conclusion and u refuse to allow debate on it and call people who dont believe u stupid. I dont believe in that psuedo-science
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
I am actually very kind, but when someone is being deliberately misleading and refuses to accept facts, while claiming to be interested in the truth, I see no need to be kind. Simply because you are brainwashed by the garbage Kirk and Ray spew, doesn't mean it's true. Evolution is a proven science. If you have specific claims against it, make them. You are just being vague intentionally. What tooth? Who? You rely on rumor. Go ahead and debate if you can, but you haven't so far.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
You say you shouldn't believe in any science you don't understand personally. By your logic, you shouldn't believe in any science. Do you know for a FACT how your computer works? You may have a general idea, but I'll bet you're no expert, yet you believe it works. Do you know how relativity works? Do you know how Quantum physics works? I'll bet you don't. In fact, do you have the slightest clue how your own brain works? But you believe you have one. You'd be surprised how it works.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori I agreewith yourlogic and by nature the magnificent creations aroundus Ican c ther isorder anddesign inits creation Ican deduce theirwasa creator udonthave tocallitGodbut ifu dont c orderand designin r universe u r intellectually dishonest Your example of the brain is a good 1 the computer is very complex andwas built bysomebody smart Bycomparison a computer is arock compared to abrain if a lesscomplex computer wasbuilt by somebody amore complexbrain musthave beenbuilt aswell
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
I agree that there's a great deal of order, but think about this for a sec. If there was no order, then things would fly apart and nothing would be cohesive. Order is a must, but it doesn't mean someone put it there. Take ants. They are not smart at all, yet they are capable of brilliant feats of engineering. They build complex tunnels and find food... alone they are dumb, collective, they are still dumb, but brilliant. The universe is that way. It's called Emergence. Research it...
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori So its smart yet dumb??/ You have taken both sides of the argument. this what I am talking about. if you dont know say I DONT KNOW dont make shit up. Emergence? another way to say something out of nothing from nobody. See, and you secular humanists say your religion has no miracles. water to wine is nothing compared to everything from nothing. There are aspects of your science that are true but you cloud them with this magical something from nothing from nobody crap.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori your example of order starts out alright and then u start with the miracle stuff again. u say u see order but it doesnt mean someone ordered it. you look at a car, a house, a plane, streets etc...and u can see order but you dont believe they magically appeared from nothing yet our universe is vastly more complex and it appeared in order and design magically. I cant believe you and if u thought about it long enough u wouldnt believe u
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
You can't understand abiogenesis or cosmology. Period. You just can't. You refuse to accept science or any of it's findings. You shrug it off because it's too complex for you. Religion is easy. "God did it." It's something your mind can handle and you're allowed to express your hatred of other people through it. I won't try to educate you any further because you outright refuse to listen. I DO know because I read, I observe and I use logic to determine the facts. You don't.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori Because I observed the same things you did but come to a different conclusion, its too complex for me and I am stupid? and u call us hateful? Science is easy too "nobody did it, its random magic" and when an element of what u believe is found not to be true you will make up another theory to replace it. I have listened and u havent convinced me. I DO know because I read, I observe and I use logic too. Thanks for your opinions. It was fun debating you. Have a good weekend.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
No, why I call you an ignorant moron who cant learn is because you keep insisting science uses "magic" & that we "make things up." If we made up lies, don't you think we'd run into problems developing medicine or the internet just wouldn't work? Don't you think COMPLEX MATHMATICAL computations involving quantum physics would fail in testable & observable phenomenon? See that's where you fail. Jesus hasn't shown up because you're wrong. GPS works because we are right. End of story.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori So when someone disagrees with you, call them names. Your not as tolerant as you think you are. and u say we want everybody to believe what we believe yet when people disagree with your religion u get angry and call them stupid. I didnt think we were talking about medicine, the internet, math, quantum physics or GPS, I thought we were talking about evolution. like I said believe what ever religion u want this is the USA we can do that here, at least for a little while longer
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
You started this with your intollerance & slander of AronRa, your mocking & accusations. You kept it up with a disjointed tirade of nonsensical musings about the bible, which you've proven that you haven't even read since you think the disciples walk around with swords & fight all the time. Is it any wonder I call you ignorant? It's not because you disagree, but because you are just wrong. You brought up the big bang & all of science. I answered with facts & you lost. U R PWNED. Bye
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago 2
@CrossTheGrigori Aron is a big boy and a pretty smart guy, he can stand up for himself. I have seen enough of his videos to know he wouldnt have argued many of the points you argued with the lame examples you gave. They did carry swords, Peter even cut a dudes ear off when they laid hands on Jesus. I didnt say they were ninja turtles and "walk around with swords & fight all the time" but again u have a way of hearing what u want to hear. I am guessing, U R PWNED is an insult again.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
That's right. Its an insult. Just like you insult others. We both do it, but I don't whine about it like you. You said Jesus condoned killing people & carrying swords. The bible passage you gave clearly shows that you are wrong & that he was trying to show that he does not & that it only leads to a worse situation. Didn't you read it? I did. THAT is why you get insulted. Because you don't know your own arguments, you don't know mine & all you do is try to cause trouble. FAIL. Bye.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori Funny people can read something and get 2 different meanings. u read, Jesus says never fight or carry a weapon. If this were true Jesus would have told Peter to take his sword off and not wear it and he clearly did not even saying in another passage to get a sword I read, if your first response is violence it will likely cause the loss of your life by violence. Most importantly Jesus knew he HAD to die and Peter was interfering with God's will. Glad u read the bible though!!
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp Oh I doubt that anyone or anything could have interfered with god's plan for a human sacrifice of his son to himself. I mean there is no way that god could have just wiped the slate clean for everyone! Torture and death- then sin clensing.
Sadly by the same day next week, everyone was sinners again. Christianity didn't gain any real popularity for another 400 years. God should have waited until everyone knew the rules so as to maximize the benefit of being "sin free."
TheOmegadusk 1 year ago
@TheOmegadusk There is no remission of sin without the sheding of blood. Sin is a capital offense worthy of a death sentence. Everybody always knew the rules, they just couldnt keep God's Holy standard and that is why there is a price to be payed. You can pay the bill yourself or Christ will pay it if u ask him to, but make no bones about it, the price will get paid one way or another.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp How exactly did everyone know the "rules" if the so-called holy scripture has only been available for 1600 years- widely available for about 800 years? For 200,000 years (minimum) humans wandered around without any knowledge of the Yahweh cult or it's arcane rules.
Fact is that everyone dies, regardless of the amount of "sin" that they have committed. Hundreds of religions have claimed to know for certain what happens after death- your cult is just as wrong as they are.
TheOmegadusk 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
If your silly book can have a different meaning to anyone who reads it, then obviously it isn't the work of an all knowing god who wanted to lay down rules for everyone to follow. If it were, then it would be clear in it's meaning. Instead, we have people like you who chose to think that someone preaching nonviolence also tells people to buy weapons & use them on a regular basis. This means Hitler was right. Jesus was a warrior & was telling him to stand up for the chosen race.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori Does it matter what somebody thinks the meaning of a particular book is or is it more important that the meaning of the book is what the writer of the book says it is. It's meaning is pretty clear to me. I am sure if it says something you disagree with then u will simply apply a meaning that suits your world view author of the books meaning be damned. If u think Hitler was right about anything then u r as crazy as he was. Jesus was right "dont cast your pearls before swine"
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
"Right" & "wrong" are only things that exist within your own mind when dealing with interpretation. I don't expect you to understand that because you can't even understand basic scientific concepts. I never said Hitler was right, you said he was wrong.. but he arrived at his conclusions because of Jesus' inspiration. So did a lot of other wack jobs that kill doctors & spew profanity. And no, the book is not clear. That's one of the problems. What you describe is what everyone does.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori Your fanaticism to make others believe what u believe reminds me of some of those crazy religious cults. I want u to believe what I do, because I sincerely believe if u dont you will go to hell. You dont have to believe that you will go to hell, but I do. So in my mind, I am trying to look out for you. BUT, if you dont believe, I wont call u a moron like u did to me, I'll just pray for you.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp ... Wow !!! Your arrogance is staggering ... You're totally in the dark about it, aren't you ??? If you truely want to discuss & debate such subjects, pick up some books & read them ... Instead of praying, utilize your time reading ... I promise you, you'll feel better & you'll gain some wisdom ... It's a "no-lose" proposition ...
MaitreyaRocket 1 year ago 2
@MaitreyaRocket Interesting Theory. If I am sure of my beliefs I am arrogant and totally in the dark but if you are sure of yours you are a free thinking intellectual. THAT sounds like true arrogance. Do I pick up any books or do they have to be just the books you read since your books are clearly the only ones that matter.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori u seek hope in evolution as i do in Christ. I hope Christ is right and I am not held responsible for my sin. you seek hope in evolution cuz if it were right you too would not be held responsible. Believe what u want but we cant both be right.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
What are you trying to get at with the "held responsible" spiel? You're trying to invoke your religion. In the real world, we are ALL responsible for our actions & that is a fact of nature. Every action has a reaction. It's not always equal & opposite, but there is always a ramlification of what one does. God isn't needed for that. In fact, it's why we worry about uber religious types. Their faith tends to cause violence & bigotry based on whose god says who doesn't deserve to live.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori not trying to get at anything, itswhat I believe, u canor cannot believe it I dontcare. Non-faith people have killed farmore people, Hitler 10 million, Stalin 20million, Mao 40million, Pol Pot 3million. Nowtell me thenumber ofpeople followers of Christ havekilled u arejust regurgitating a lie uwere told. Ur bigotted towardsChristians. udont wantus topractice r religionthough weallow uto followany religionu want Christians r theonly groupits acceptableto discriminate against
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
And finally... would you people stop trying to blame Hitler's actions on not beliving in god? Just do a google search and you will find that Hitler embraced Jesus as an inspiration for his movement and beliefs... seeing JESUS as an Aryan. And you think Hitler is only responsible for 10 million deaths? Wow. How small were the Crusades to you? The witch trials were small... but they happened.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori "YOU PEOPLE"? So Hitler followed Christ? u know as much about history as you do science. he may have embraced his twisted view of Jesus, but not the Jesus of the bible. Jesus was a Jew not an Aryan all my numbers were conservative so we didnt have to argue minutia one is too many. I didnt say all deaths were from non-religious people just most tho your crusade example is poorly chosen if your land was stolen u would fight to take it back too
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
So you're telling me that anyone who disagrees with your version of God is wrong? Why couldn't Hitler have had the correct view of Christ? Listen to your own answer carefully, it will reveal a great deal to you if you do. Everyone wants to think their version of God is correct & can list many reasons why. That doesn't make it so. You are also saying it's okay to rape, murder & plunder in the name of your god? They wanted "their land" back? Yeah, great reason. Jesus teach that?
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori Yes are you telling me that anybody that doesnt believe in evolution/secular humanism is wrong? The only view of Christ I know of is the biblical version. Are you aware of another version of Christ where hesays I am aryan, kill the Jews? I didnt say its okay to rapemurderplunder but it is okay to defend yourself your religion your property there is a difference between murder and killing u can kill someone without murdering them
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori yes they wanted their land back just like you would want yours back if someone stole it from you. u own nothing u cant defend do u find it funny that the muslims(reason for the crusades) religion was founded 700 years after Christ and 6000 years after Judeaism and most of the muslim religious sites were literally built right on top of the Jewish and Christian sites Its almost like building a mosque on the site of ground zero read history its what muslims do
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
And as for the "holy land" I'm going to bust you on this. NOWHERE did Jesus ever say that "murder is wrong... UNLESS they steal your land, yo!" None of the thousands of people forced into fighting in the "holy land" lived there. It wasn't their home. They just wanted control over it. Do you realize that every religious site is built on top of someone else's? Xtianity has co-opted numerous rights, holidays & places to assimilate preexisting religions. Xtianity is a terminal disease.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@CrossTheGrigori you have no idea what Jesus taught until u read the bible so u cant speak on the subject, yet u will anyways. being a Christian doesnt mean being a pussy. The disciples carried swords, Jesus said there is a time to beat your plow shares into swords. if being a Christian meant u always lay down and let people walk all over u the Christian religion wouldnt have lasted a decade If u want to speak intelligently on Jesus you have to know what he taught.
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
Ok. Here's another part where you are just wrong. Clearly, you have not read the bible, nor understood it. I am not an atheist, nor christian and I have read it and understood it. The disciples didn't "carry swords" around with them. Jesus told them to buys swords ONCE in order to fulfill some prophecy about them being transgressors. He healed the damage done with one of those swords and condemned their use. It was a ruse to have him captured so he would eventually be crucified.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp
Jesus was against violence & spoke of turning the other cheek. This is why you & Hitler are no different. You see in the bible what you choose to. It's poetic dribble with no clear laws to obey, just ways for you to promote discrimination against anyone you don't like. Science & atheism DO NOT do that. To an atheist, all meatbags are the same. To science, everything is a wonder of nature's mechanics. To xtians, nothing is anything unless GOD says so & god says what you want him to.
CrossTheGrigori 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp You merely "hope" that your religion is right, yet you make statements of absolutism casually and make your decisions based upon a hopelessly inaccurate bronze age text? You make the assertion that evolution requires the same faith as your religion does?
I cannot begin to explain how ridiculous your thought process is. Evolution is a proven scientific theory- nothing has disproven it in over 200 years. In fact, all evidence has only supported it to be true.
TheOmegadusk 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp Are you trying to assert that evolution by natural selection is a religion. This always strikes me as a particularly desperate approach, a bit like saying "Yes my position is weak and unfounded but so is yours".
Wrong, the religious have 'faith', evolution is based on empirical evidence. No FAITH needed.
trooperJac 1 year ago
@trooperJac Evolution in all its ever changing forms is a religion. Merriam Webster online dictionary Definitionof RELIGION a cause, principle, or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith. Trying to assert that evolution (secular humanism) is not a religion and requiresno faith 2 believe in its many miracles strikes me as a particularly desperate approach. A bit like saying the aspects of your religion that u cant prove are much worse than the aspects of my religion that I cant prove
bethaddjkp 1 year ago
@bethaddjkp That's exactly why evolution or science in general is not a religion. It's not held to on faith or with ardor. It's accepted due to the overwhelming observable facts that form the theory and any scientist would disregard it tomorrow if evidence pointed to the fact that it was all wrong - although at this stage the chances of that happening are too small to take seriously.
Also, what miracles - miracles belong in the realm of magic and are impossible by definition.
trooperJac 1 year ago
Man i love your T-shirt, it makes me LOL very hard :-) btw your vids are great to.
DutchPow3r 1 year ago
is that beef jerkey? i love beef jerkey. if its beef jerkey. i love it, the beef jerkey.
bbender1986 1 year ago
you are a superhuman :)
cuddlymushroom223 1 year ago
Damn it to hell, I totally forgot about this video.... I have a wedding shower for me and my fiance that is themed "a touch of pink" and I would have LOVED to find out where you got that shirt.... man would that shirt have pissed off my soon-to-be mother-inlaw... and that would have made me very happy.
squirreljester2 1 year ago
never has the line 'You're full of shit.' ever been applied so eloquently, or more in a more awesome fashion, than you did at the end of this video.
phoenixrisinghigh 1 year ago
I really miss your pwning of creotards. I mean I know it may feel like wasted time to you in a sense, but really there is nothing like watching a Goliath crush an ant, if you catch my drift. And I miss the utter devastation.
GallusSapien 1 year ago
What i find AMAZING ARROGANT is that you think that people who lived before darwin had no idea about evolution! People even ancient man were highly intelligent and capable of rational thought. After all they got us to where we are today and deserve our respect as such! People who think ancient man were stupid and without understanding of the world around them are the real fools and i pity them!
CONSTRINGACY 1 year ago
@CONSTRINGACY Your post seems to have been aimed at me. However if you've seen many of my previous videos, you'd know that I talked about Lamarck & Linnaeus, Aristotle & Anaximander, and that I have already explained that early naturalists often understood that evolution happens, even if they didn't know how it happened, or how far that could or did go.
AronRa 1 year ago 2
@AronRa Hi i love your vids and i will check tho ones out,Tnx
CONSTRINGACY 1 year ago