They made it so we have to watch their every move and then tell them when they screw up and then tell them how to fix their screw up.
We are already doing their job, why not benefit from it by not having to pay them any longer and just keep the money for better projects, like food, house repairs and other local projects.
Declare bankruptcy, meaning not paying back money to creditors (other countries such as China, Japan, etc, also banks such as Fed, Bank of England, World Bank, etc). Get rid of all the tax; start with income tax & property tax. Get rid of all the central banks. Get rid of Corporate Personhood. Banning merging companies. Bring all the troops back home. That's it.
Declare Bankruptcy? Sure, if you want those Federal Reserve Notes you call "money" to not be worth the paper they're printed on, sounds like a great plan. Corporate Personhood? Ban mergers? So if I want to merge my company with someone else's I shouldn't have that right? Sorry, where is that in the Constitution? I must have missed that part of the Bill of Rights. Should we bring the troops in Haiti back first? Just wondering.
Yep, get a new currency. Corporate Personhood, where is that in the Constitution? Note that there is no specific order of which troops comes home first is stated in my previous comment. So, use your imagination. Also note that about banning merging companies, I retract it.
"Get a new currency"? So when people need to purchase provisions for their family and their money is worthless, what happens then? If you want society as we know it brought to it's knees and push us into the fires of Anarchy, thats the way to go. Still waiting for you to define "Corporate Personhood". When bringing "The Troops Home" what happens to the void left behind in places like NATO? Nature abhors a Vacuum. Something WILL take it's place that we may not like.
Lincoln printed greenbacks (United States Note), hence by reading about the history you can learn how it can work. "Corporate Personhood" is already existing term, i.e. it's not my invention. Look it up. NATO, we did good without it for 227 yrs. Worrying about Russians or Chinese, aren't you? Well, I don't. :)
You see the thing is that there are ppl who thinks: if we do A, then B will happen, so it's not gonna work, If we do C, then D will happen, so it's not gonna work, & so on. I don't think that way. Cause thinking that way gets me nowhere. You are right. Doing (action) is becoming more important these days. Also, we have to do it, not those NWO fuckers.
It's interesting that though you are not worried about the Russians and Chinese, you are not aware of the strategic implications of the United States turning it's back on our Allies thereby destroying any influence we have with said entities. Fortunately, from George Washington & Thomas Jefferson to today, most Americans understand the importance of America not being a failed isolationist state. How's isolation working out for North Korea these days? Again, Nature abhors a Vacuum. This is fact.
So your plan WOULD NOT lead to Isolation? The United States declaring Bankruptcy and the implications to the World would NOT lead to America -ALONE-? Are you not clear with how 21st Century Earth operates? Where do we get our oil from? Where do we get a majority of our food from? Perhaps it's time to take a step back and look at the big picture. Again, when a Father has to feed his starving children without currency. What happens next? Why not embrace your idea & demonstrate the solution?
A "New Currency"? Based on what guarentee? The U.S. Government's? The very same Government you had to declare bankruptcy? You don't really have a firm grasp of basic economics, do you? Oh shit, that must have been that "homework" you were talking about! My bad! It's breath-taking how you can simply wave a magic wand and destroy the U.S. economy then simply say "Ta Da!" Here's our "New Money" and it has "Value"(wink wink!). The same value as Monopoly money unfortunately but who cares, right?
Change the govn't first, then. Since, our govn't is not constitutional. I actually forgot mentioning this one on my first comment. Thanks for the reminding.
So........change the Government first THEN declare Bankruptcy? You clumsily attempt to compare Lincoln's America to today. That's preposterous. We currently owe $100 TRILLION in Unfunded Liabilities alone. That is more than the entire world's GDP combined. Our Financial System is the WORLD'S Financial System thanks to the Progressive's Globalization Plans. If we declare Bankruptcy, do you HONESTLY think that China & Friends won't look for ways, ANY WAY, to get their money? HONESTLY?
Yep, you got it, man. Unless you like our govn't or something, do you? Perhaps, that's what your beef is. Just guessing. I hope I'm wrong. You are worrying about China again, hah. Well, what can I say. Keep it up, then.
Still no answer from you as to what happens to the world when we declare Bankruptcy. Don't be a coward. If you want Anarchy, just man up and say so. Now the China card again? You truly know nothing of economics do you? I'll wager you don't own your own business, do you? Your grasp of Economics 101 is non-existent therefore, it's fairly easy to extrapolate that you don't understand what happens when one doesn't pay one's bills. Why state a plan & not have the testicular fortitude to spell it out?
You got that one right. I don't own a biz. You see causality in economics or whatever social stuff aren't, so definite such as that of billiard. If biz ppl knew what was coming, then we would be here, since, we got a lot of biz ppl. So, just curious do you own a biz?
"so definite such as that of billiard"? WTF does that mean? The ---REALITY--- is that there were LOTS of people who have been saying for YEARS that following Progressive Taxing & Spending Policies would compromise this Republic. Since.......that is EXACTLY what happened before. The ---REALITY--- is that those at the TOP via Crony-Crapitalism cashed in and made their money by allowing the system to collapse. Again, that's happened before also. You haven't heard? Credit Default Swaps Anyone?
Hello McFly!!! Anyone home? The Muppet stated: "If biz ppl knew what was coming, then we would be here, since, we got a lot of biz ppl". Seriously, are you a newborn? You haven't been around for the past few years watching as the guys at the top manipulated the system BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEY COULD MAXIMIZE THEIR PROFITS before THE BOTTOM FELL OUT. Their BRETHREN in Congress (ala Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, etc.) were WILLING ACCOMPLICES. So you haven't been paying attention till now? SHOCKING!! LOL
So..............you think Hank "Shifty" Paulson, Secretary of the Treasury "Son of Shifty" Geithner and their buddies in Goldmann Sachs are hurting from their personal rewards they reaped from the games Paulson, Bernanke & Friends played with the economy? Do you even know what a Credit Default Swap is? When we change the Government, do we keep the Constitution or do we scrap it and start over? What happens when Dollars are -worthless-? Think folks will just "Wait & See"? Really?
If you looked at my channel, you would know very well what I want. I took an oath to defend the Constitution from Enemies both Foreign & Domestic. Foreign like the Wahhabi Scum, Chinese Communists or Russian Ex-KGB Dictator-Lite. Domestic being Progressive Scum like Bush or Obama or people like you who have no concept as to how the world works and our place in it.
But you are afraid of Russian & Chinese. LOL. So, it's gonna be pretty difficult you to keep the Oath. Also, note that this is YouTube, you can claim to be anyone. LOL.
This is YouTube??? GASP!!!!!!!!!!!! You don't say!!!!! What do you want to know Obama Schill? How many years I served? You want to see my Decorations & Ribbons? Tell you what, there is a bench at Twenty-nine Palms with my initials carved in it. I'll tell you what street it is on if you want. "Afraid of Russian & Chinese"? Stupid Obama Schill, the only one who has said "Afraid" is you. I've personally fought against Russian T-74 Tanks. Have you? I can talk 3rd Marine LAR all day if you like.
By yourself? Wow, that's something. Back in the Sand Box, it was my Platoon that did most of the heavy lifting. Since I was a Corpsman, they needed me to play Doc. How about I explain how easy it is to cause respiratory failure by severing your spinal cord @ C3-C4? Maybe a rousing discussion of Chest-Needle Decompressions? You pick. Unfortunately for you.......I've lived (and continue to live) that shit. Maybe a discussion of Fire Ground Ops? Let me know.
Obama Schill, still waiting for you to elaborate on the consequences to the World with your "U.S. Bankruptcy Plan". Do you plan on making your own money with magic markers or are you going to go with a pencil motiff? Maybe a bracing discussion of MAST Trouser applications in the field? Contraindications of Beta-Blockers? When to give Lidocaine during a Cardiac Arrest? Yes? No? Tick Tock Tick Tock.............You continue to make this extremely easy..........
Obama Schill, you still don't have the balls to man up on the consequences of your "Plan"? Try this bit on: "In the common law tradition, only a person could sue or be sued....Thus, when a corporation breached a contract or broke a law, there was no remedy, because limited liability protected the owners and the corporation wasn't a legal person subject to the law. There was no accountability for corporate wrong-doing." UH OH!!! Your stupidity is being exposed yet again! Bloody Laws! LMFAO!!!
Hey, girl friend, what's this got to do with anything? LOL. Losing it a bit aren't you? LOL. Also I sps you gave up talking about the Constitution. :)
So your -Reading Comprehension- is as weak as your grasp of the Constitution, Obama Schill? I'm simply exposing your stupidity for what it is. I'm showing how the case that I posted merely REAFFIRMED what was and IS understood in regards to Corporations. I suppose I could Copy/Paste the entire article on the subject. Would you like to see comparisons of U.S. Law versus other Nations on this matter? That would be a fantastic example of your attempt to muzzle & suppress rights.
Step away from the cock and MAN UP with your plan for the future! "To resolve the issue, the legal personality of a corporation was established to include five legal rights—the right to a common treasury or chest (including the right to own property), the right to a corporate seal (i.e., the right to make and sign contracts), the right to sue and be sued (to enforce contracts), the right to hire agents (employees) and the right to make by-laws (self-governance)." Isn't that AWESOME Felcher?
So......................are you going to man up and talk about the consequences if our Republic lost it's mind and allowed your delusional bankruptcy plan to happen? I'd encourage you to look at the cover of today's Wall Street Journal. It showed what happens in Grocery Stores when a bad storm happens. When the people hear the Government is going to declare Bankruptcy, the Rodney King L.A. Riots will be made to look like another day at Disney World. There will be blood & you'll still be clueless
'When the people hear the Government is going to declare Bankruptcy, the Rodney King L.A. Riots will be made to look like another day at Disney World."
Opinion? No, merely a logical conclusion based on experience. I was in New Orleans after Katrina. Were you? Again, take a look at the cover of today's Wall Street Journal. The picture says it all. If a STORM can cause store shelves to go bare, what happens when people find out their money is worthless? Society will break down. Anarchy will rule the day. It's fact. Nothing less.
Interesting that my experience knew that there was --ZERO-- possibility of you being a business owner. No one can be divorced from how Economics work like you and still have to make a payroll. You'd be a good pick for the Obama Administration (you'd fit right in). You want more power for Government, less Individual Freedoms and don't care that history has exposed you for the fraud you are. Wait a minute, you're an Obama Schill, aren't you? It all makes sense now.
Silly Obama Schill, your ignorance (and abysmal lack of knowledge in regards to our Constitution & Bill of Rights) is on display for all to see. Who want s to be "Self Employed" anyway? LOL! Unfortunately, you seem to wear your intellectual weakness as a badge of honor. That's okay. Just wondering, did your parents have ANY children that lived? Just ballpark it for me.
Since your fear prevents you from answering for your delusional beliefs, I see no reason to volunteer anything to you. I'm hammering away at you quoting the Constitution while you've offered..................? Seriously, you do make this to easy.
"Learn how it can work"? No, I want YOU to answer the question about what the implications would be to our society TODAY not in the late 1800's. If you are implying that a Corporation shouldn't act or function as an individual, again, where does the Constitution create a limit? English Law in the 1600s treated Businesses as "Individuals". You ask about the Constitution. The Constitution limits what the Federal Government can do to us, not what it has to do for us. (cont'd)
You don't like to do home work much, I suppose. Well, too bad, nothing I can do about that. English Law in the 1600s isn't exactly the US Constitution, is it?! Actually we fought them (English), didn't we?! :D Is a corp a human being? LOL. " that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights," remember this one? Think about what their Creator means here.
So is this your fear of taking responsibility for the implications to our 21st Century Society if we were to foolishly follow your plan? You don't want to answer what happens when someone doesn't have resources to trade or barter for food since their money is worthless? Don't clumsily attempt to put words in my mouth. A Corporation can act as an INDIVIDUAL (i.e. I can sue the shit out of Toyota for their brakes). Again, the Constitution is clear about Governments limits. You aren't familiar?
There is an individual human, an individual cat, an individual dog, etc. Do you know what "corporate personhood" is? It's about granting all the rights in the Constitution to Corps as if they are human beings. Oh, well, you didn't know much about it I suppose. You see that's what happens when you don't like to do home work.
Actually, it sadly demonstrates that you would prefer to view things through your distorted delusion rather than based in fact. As a shareholder in a Company do I NOT have a vested interest in that Company's success? If not, why invest again? Again, the Law is clear. Though you may not like it, it is Law. Fortunately the Framers understood that established limits on Government were more important than your whims. Thank God for Madison, right? Any luck with the Societal implications plan yet?
It's not a Law. It's the Court decisions, so far. Again, do some home work. It's like this: sps you own a company (a Private Biz), say Y. Y does't have a personhood. Y is just your property. A Corp on the other hand has been considered by the court since 1886. It's the court decisions, so it can be repealed. You seem to like "Corporate Personhood". Keep it up, then.
It's not a Law? Again, the Constitution of the United States places limits upon what the Government can do to Individuals. The very same individuals whose INTERESTS are vested VIA STOCKS in a Corporation. As a GROUP, they want a RETURN on their investment. The difference between You and I is, I want Government to STAY OUT OF MY LIFE. Why are you willing to grant the Federal Government more power than it already has stolen? If I want to sue GM, I should be able to. Why is that a bad thing?
1886-1776=100 Oops 110. No Corp were a person for 110 yrs. Also, note that the govn't (precisely the court) made Corps persons. Of course under the Constitution the govn't has no power of doing that.
1886? Oops! Better try again. See my notation regards to the 1844 case. Of course, if we hadn't experienced the Industrial Revolution, we would have had no need to catagorize a Corporation as an Individual entity. Ah, those were the good ol' days...........who WOULDN'T want to go back to that???? Again, you miss the point that the Constitution makes -ZERO- limitations on Corporations. Again, that pesky piece of paper making things tough for you. If only you could just tear it up................
Look at the sad Muppet, still bobbing and weaving. Tell me, Sad Muppet, where does the Constitution limit Corporations or Companies? Where Muppet? Tell me, Sad Muppet, when are you going to explain the consequences of the U.S. declaring Bankruptcy to us and the world? Wait, I'll bet you think all those guys in uniform will just say "New money? Sure, I'll still come to work!" don't you? Still waiting for you to elaborate on America shredding our Treaties up (like NATO). This if FUN!!!
You demonstrate yet again that you do not understand what the Constitution is. The Constitution does NOT give us definitions of what PRIVATE Institutions or Businesses are or what they can or can not do. Comrade Obama himself called the Constitution a "Charter of Negative Liberties". Why? Because he is ANGRY that the Constitution LIMITS what Government CAN & CAN NOT DO rather than what it SHOULD or SHOULD NOT do. It pisses him of apparently as much as it does you. How fascinating.
The Constitution LIMITS the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. All POWERS not granted to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT belong to THE STATE GOVERNMENTS. I'll go out on a limb here and say you don't have a strong grasp of the Tenth Amendment, do you? There is no mention in the Constitution that says you have a right to drive a car. Therefore, you shouldn't have them? Again, the Framers understood that there would be people like you who don't pay attention to our Founding Documents. How fortunate you are.
Also, note that the Constitution doesn't say that the govn't can stop me from driving a car. LOL. Tell me, can the Govn't (Fed) make a corp a person under the Constitution? :)
You are right. The Constitution does NOT say that the Federal Government can stop you from driving a car. The TENTH AMENDMENT however says: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." That means that the State where you live CAN STOP YOU FROM DRIVING SAID CAR just like they CAN GRANT CORPORATIONS! Oops, that darn Constitution messing it up for you again. Damn James Madison! LOL
You really don't understand the Constitution do you? Here, I'll try to dumb it down for you: The Tenth Amendment grants powers to the States that are NOT directly given to the Federal Government (Like GRANTING CORPORATIONS). The Commerce Clause of Article 1, Section 8 is what the Federal Government uses to weigh in on such matters. That's all. Nothing more. Nothing less. The Supreme Court merely used logic in determining the REPRESENTING the RIGHTS of STOCKHOLDERS. Madison beats you again.
Silly Obama Schill, I'll post it again for you: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Please, don't take it out on the rest of us that you hate the Constitution. Fortunately for scum like you, people like me (and the Justices of the Supreme Court) have actually read our Founding Documents and understand what they mean. Why are you afraid Obama Schill? Why?
Obama Schill, I'll post it again: Tenth Amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Perhaps we could couple that with this source: "Although the concept of a legal person is more central to Western law in both common law and civil law countries, it is also found in virtually every legal system." Uh Oh........someone is not falling in line Obama Schill.........
" "In the common law tradition, only a person could sue or be sued....Thus, when a corporation breached a contract or broke a law, there was no remedy, because limited liability protected the owners and the corporation wasn't a legal person subject to the law. There was no accountability for corporate wrong-doing." Obama Schill, shall I post more? This is awesome!!! How about a rousing discussion of thrombolytics in the treatment of CVA? Tick Tock Tick Tock.........To easy!!
Since 1886? "In Louisville, C. & C.R. Co. v. Letson, 2 How. 497, 558, 11 L.Ed. 353 (1844), the U.S. Supreme Court held that for the purposes of the case at hand, a corporation is capable of being treated as a citizen of [the State which created it], as much as a natural person."
Details...Details. Of course, that doesn't include English Common Law from which our form of Government grew.
Now, you are bitching about the fact that I didn't write the name of the case. LOL. Ok, girl, have it your way. You see it wasn't that hard, was it, doing home work. :)
Ah, "Girl" is it? That's funny coming from someone who is afraid to state clearly the consequences of it's delusional ramblings about Bankruptcy and the National, International & Societal Implications of said plan. You keep bobbing and weaving, I'll keep exposing your nauseating numbskullery for what it is. Still waiting for you to man up "Bankruptcy Muppet". Tick Tock Tick Tock. I'm not on duty tomorrow so I can do this all night............
It's interesting to read someone posting that "if we do A, then B will happen, so it's not gonna work, If we do C, then D will happen, so it's not gonna work, & so on. I don't think that way. Cause thinking that way gets me nowhere". The funny thing about history is it is replete with examples of what happens when we do "A", "B" or "C". If we decide to merely do it anyway expecting a different result than what happened before...well, the definition of insanity is...........?
So this is your continued sad avoidance of discussing the --realities-- that lie at the heart of your "Plan"? A bit ham-fisted to be sure. I'm sorry, how much U.S. Debt did the rest of the world own as a percentage of our GDP in Lincoln's day? How many Unfunded Liabilities did Lincoln have to worry about? I don't recall any but I'm sure you'll be able to "Enlighten" me with all of your vast wisdom.
Good, if I had a mirror.
Better yet, fire the whole lot of them.
They made it so we have to watch their every move and then tell them when they screw up and then tell them how to fix their screw up.
We are already doing their job, why not benefit from it by not having to pay them any longer and just keep the money for better projects, like food, house repairs and other local projects.
Kingery4President 2 years ago
The 'right side up' version is in the video responses, or check my channel front page!
HorseofPaulRevere 2 years ago
★★★★★
MadBadVoodo 2 years ago
Sorry man, I usually enjoy your videos, but this was a waste of time. I'm not going to rate it, so don't blame me.
TexasWatch223 2 years ago
total agreement
thefabulousbugman 2 years ago
OK this is the solution:
Declare bankruptcy, meaning not paying back money to creditors (other countries such as China, Japan, etc, also banks such as Fed, Bank of England, World Bank, etc). Get rid of all the tax; start with income tax & property tax. Get rid of all the central banks. Get rid of Corporate Personhood. Banning merging companies. Bring all the troops back home. That's it.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
@nonaCbarC brilliant
motorolarules 2 years ago
@nonaCbarC
Declare Bankruptcy? Sure, if you want those Federal Reserve Notes you call "money" to not be worth the paper they're printed on, sounds like a great plan. Corporate Personhood? Ban mergers? So if I want to merge my company with someone else's I shouldn't have that right? Sorry, where is that in the Constitution? I must have missed that part of the Bill of Rights. Should we bring the troops in Haiti back first? Just wondering.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Yep, get a new currency. Corporate Personhood, where is that in the Constitution? Note that there is no specific order of which troops comes home first is stated in my previous comment. So, use your imagination. Also note that about banning merging companies, I retract it.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
@nonaCbarC
"Get a new currency"? So when people need to purchase provisions for their family and their money is worthless, what happens then? If you want society as we know it brought to it's knees and push us into the fires of Anarchy, thats the way to go. Still waiting for you to define "Corporate Personhood". When bringing "The Troops Home" what happens to the void left behind in places like NATO? Nature abhors a Vacuum. Something WILL take it's place that we may not like.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
The point is we better do something, we better do it fast, AND we better not trust DC to do it for us...
HorseofPaulRevere 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Lincoln printed greenbacks (United States Note), hence by reading about the history you can learn how it can work. "Corporate Personhood" is already existing term, i.e. it's not my invention. Look it up. NATO, we did good without it for 227 yrs. Worrying about Russians or Chinese, aren't you? Well, I don't. :)
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
The point is we better do something, we better do it fast, AND we better not trust DC to do it for us...
HorseofPaulRevere 2 years ago
@HorseofPaulRevere
Agree.
You see the thing is that there are ppl who thinks: if we do A, then B will happen, so it's not gonna work, If we do C, then D will happen, so it's not gonna work, & so on. I don't think that way. Cause thinking that way gets me nowhere. You are right. Doing (action) is becoming more important these days. Also, we have to do it, not those NWO fuckers.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
It's interesting that though you are not worried about the Russians and Chinese, you are not aware of the strategic implications of the United States turning it's back on our Allies thereby destroying any influence we have with said entities. Fortunately, from George Washington & Thomas Jefferson to today, most Americans understand the importance of America not being a failed isolationist state. How's isolation working out for North Korea these days? Again, Nature abhors a Vacuum. This is fact.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Note that the term "isolation" doesn't occur in any of my comments. It only occurs in your comment. Read them again if it's required.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
So your plan WOULD NOT lead to Isolation? The United States declaring Bankruptcy and the implications to the World would NOT lead to America -ALONE-? Are you not clear with how 21st Century Earth operates? Where do we get our oil from? Where do we get a majority of our food from? Perhaps it's time to take a step back and look at the big picture. Again, when a Father has to feed his starving children without currency. What happens next? Why not embrace your idea & demonstrate the solution?
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Without currency?? I talked about a new currency already. Oh, shit, you didn't do home work. I forgot about that. Sorry, man. :)
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
A "New Currency"? Based on what guarentee? The U.S. Government's? The very same Government you had to declare bankruptcy? You don't really have a firm grasp of basic economics, do you? Oh shit, that must have been that "homework" you were talking about! My bad! It's breath-taking how you can simply wave a magic wand and destroy the U.S. economy then simply say "Ta Da!" Here's our "New Money" and it has "Value"(wink wink!). The same value as Monopoly money unfortunately but who cares, right?
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Change the govn't first, then. Since, our govn't is not constitutional. I actually forgot mentioning this one on my first comment. Thanks for the reminding.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
So........change the Government first THEN declare Bankruptcy? You clumsily attempt to compare Lincoln's America to today. That's preposterous. We currently owe $100 TRILLION in Unfunded Liabilities alone. That is more than the entire world's GDP combined. Our Financial System is the WORLD'S Financial System thanks to the Progressive's Globalization Plans. If we declare Bankruptcy, do you HONESTLY think that China & Friends won't look for ways, ANY WAY, to get their money? HONESTLY?
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
Yep, you got it, man. Unless you like our govn't or something, do you? Perhaps, that's what your beef is. Just guessing. I hope I'm wrong. You are worrying about China again, hah. Well, what can I say. Keep it up, then.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Still no answer from you as to what happens to the world when we declare Bankruptcy. Don't be a coward. If you want Anarchy, just man up and say so. Now the China card again? You truly know nothing of economics do you? I'll wager you don't own your own business, do you? Your grasp of Economics 101 is non-existent therefore, it's fairly easy to extrapolate that you don't understand what happens when one doesn't pay one's bills. Why state a plan & not have the testicular fortitude to spell it out?
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
You got that one right. I don't own a biz. You see causality in economics or whatever social stuff aren't, so definite such as that of billiard. If biz ppl knew what was coming, then we would be here, since, we got a lot of biz ppl. So, just curious do you own a biz?
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
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"so definite such as that of billiard"? WTF does that mean? The ---REALITY--- is that there were LOTS of people who have been saying for YEARS that following Progressive Taxing & Spending Policies would compromise this Republic. Since.......that is EXACTLY what happened before. The ---REALITY--- is that those at the TOP via Crony-Crapitalism cashed in and made their money by allowing the system to collapse. Again, that's happened before also. You haven't heard? Credit Default Swaps Anyone?
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
What? Who allow who to collapse? Note that the term "Collapse" doesn't occur in any of my comment. It only occurs in yours. :)
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Hello McFly!!! Anyone home? The Muppet stated: "If biz ppl knew what was coming, then we would be here, since, we got a lot of biz ppl". Seriously, are you a newborn? You haven't been around for the past few years watching as the guys at the top manipulated the system BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEY COULD MAXIMIZE THEIR PROFITS before THE BOTTOM FELL OUT. Their BRETHREN in Congress (ala Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, etc.) were WILLING ACCOMPLICES. So you haven't been paying attention till now? SHOCKING!! LOL
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
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@TheRentschmeister
You know what there is some mistake in that sentence.
Correction:
"If biz ppl knew what was coming, then we wouldn't be here, since, we got a lot of biz ppl"
I said change the govn't first. Also I said get rid of central banks. Tell me do you like our govn't or central banks? Also tell me do you own a biz?
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
So..............you think Hank "Shifty" Paulson, Secretary of the Treasury "Son of Shifty" Geithner and their buddies in Goldmann Sachs are hurting from their personal rewards they reaped from the games Paulson, Bernanke & Friends played with the economy? Do you even know what a Credit Default Swap is? When we change the Government, do we keep the Constitution or do we scrap it and start over? What happens when Dollars are -worthless-? Think folks will just "Wait & See"? Really?
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Changing the govn't: more precisely changing to constitutional government. Tell me do you wanna keep the govn't the way it is?
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
If you looked at my channel, you would know very well what I want. I took an oath to defend the Constitution from Enemies both Foreign & Domestic. Foreign like the Wahhabi Scum, Chinese Communists or Russian Ex-KGB Dictator-Lite. Domestic being Progressive Scum like Bush or Obama or people like you who have no concept as to how the world works and our place in it.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
But you are afraid of Russian & Chinese. LOL. So, it's gonna be pretty difficult you to keep the Oath. Also, note that this is YouTube, you can claim to be anyone. LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
This is YouTube??? GASP!!!!!!!!!!!! You don't say!!!!! What do you want to know Obama Schill? How many years I served? You want to see my Decorations & Ribbons? Tell you what, there is a bench at Twenty-nine Palms with my initials carved in it. I'll tell you what street it is on if you want. "Afraid of Russian & Chinese"? Stupid Obama Schill, the only one who has said "Afraid" is you. I've personally fought against Russian T-74 Tanks. Have you? I can talk 3rd Marine LAR all day if you like.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Oh, really. Is that so? LOL. Oh, yeah, I fought Su-30 all by myself, my one arm tied to my back. LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
By yourself? Wow, that's something. Back in the Sand Box, it was my Platoon that did most of the heavy lifting. Since I was a Corpsman, they needed me to play Doc. How about I explain how easy it is to cause respiratory failure by severing your spinal cord @ C3-C4? Maybe a rousing discussion of Chest-Needle Decompressions? You pick. Unfortunately for you.......I've lived (and continue to live) that shit. Maybe a discussion of Fire Ground Ops? Let me know.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. I hear you. Keep it up, buddy. LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Obama Schill, still waiting for you to elaborate on the consequences to the World with your "U.S. Bankruptcy Plan". Do you plan on making your own money with magic markers or are you going to go with a pencil motiff? Maybe a bracing discussion of MAST Trouser applications in the field? Contraindications of Beta-Blockers? When to give Lidocaine during a Cardiac Arrest? Yes? No? Tick Tock Tick Tock.............You continue to make this extremely easy..........
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
LOL. Keep it up, buddy.
You don't own a biz, do you? Waiting for this one. LOL. Just lie about it, man. Just say "Yes, you own one. It's YouTube. It's no big deal. LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Obama Schill, you still don't have the balls to man up on the consequences of your "Plan"? Try this bit on: "In the common law tradition, only a person could sue or be sued....Thus, when a corporation breached a contract or broke a law, there was no remedy, because limited liability protected the owners and the corporation wasn't a legal person subject to the law. There was no accountability for corporate wrong-doing." UH OH!!! Your stupidity is being exposed yet again! Bloody Laws! LMFAO!!!
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Hey, girl friend, what's this got to do with anything? LOL. Losing it a bit aren't you? LOL. Also I sps you gave up talking about the Constitution. :)
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
@nonaCbarC
So your -Reading Comprehension- is as weak as your grasp of the Constitution, Obama Schill? I'm simply exposing your stupidity for what it is. I'm showing how the case that I posted merely REAFFIRMED what was and IS understood in regards to Corporations. I suppose I could Copy/Paste the entire article on the subject. Would you like to see comparisons of U.S. Law versus other Nations on this matter? That would be a fantastic example of your attempt to muzzle & suppress rights.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
I will let you have the last words. I gotta hit the sack. Good night, Miss. LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Step away from the cock and MAN UP with your plan for the future! "To resolve the issue, the legal personality of a corporation was established to include five legal rights—the right to a common treasury or chest (including the right to own property), the right to a corporate seal (i.e., the right to make and sign contracts), the right to sue and be sued (to enforce contracts), the right to hire agents (employees) and the right to make by-laws (self-governance)." Isn't that AWESOME Felcher?
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
So, do you own a biz?
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
So......................are you going to man up and talk about the consequences if our Republic lost it's mind and allowed your delusional bankruptcy plan to happen? I'd encourage you to look at the cover of today's Wall Street Journal. It showed what happens in Grocery Stores when a bad storm happens. When the people hear the Government is going to declare Bankruptcy, the Rodney King L.A. Riots will be made to look like another day at Disney World. There will be blood & you'll still be clueless
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
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'When the people hear the Government is going to declare Bankruptcy, the Rodney King L.A. Riots will be made to look like another day at Disney World."
Is that an opinion?
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Opinion? No, merely a logical conclusion based on experience. I was in New Orleans after Katrina. Were you? Again, take a look at the cover of today's Wall Street Journal. The picture says it all. If a STORM can cause store shelves to go bare, what happens when people find out their money is worthless? Society will break down. Anarchy will rule the day. It's fact. Nothing less.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
"merely a logical conclusion based on experience."
So, it's an opinion. It takes only 3 letters to write "Yes". LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Interesting that my experience knew that there was --ZERO-- possibility of you being a business owner. No one can be divorced from how Economics work like you and still have to make a payroll. You'd be a good pick for the Obama Administration (you'd fit right in). You want more power for Government, less Individual Freedoms and don't care that history has exposed you for the fraud you are. Wait a minute, you're an Obama Schill, aren't you? It all makes sense now.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
"there was --ZERO-- possibility of you being a business owner."
You got that one right. Actually there is zero possibility of me being a business owner, cause, I don't wanna own a biz.
You don't own a biz, do you? Tell me. :) Just lie about it, man. It's OK. This is just YouTube. LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Silly Obama Schill, your ignorance (and abysmal lack of knowledge in regards to our Constitution & Bill of Rights) is on display for all to see. Who want s to be "Self Employed" anyway? LOL! Unfortunately, you seem to wear your intellectual weakness as a badge of honor. That's okay. Just wondering, did your parents have ANY children that lived? Just ballpark it for me.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
You don't own a biz, do you? LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Since your fear prevents you from answering for your delusional beliefs, I see no reason to volunteer anything to you. I'm hammering away at you quoting the Constitution while you've offered..................? Seriously, you do make this to easy.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@nonaCbarC
"Learn how it can work"? No, I want YOU to answer the question about what the implications would be to our society TODAY not in the late 1800's. If you are implying that a Corporation shouldn't act or function as an individual, again, where does the Constitution create a limit? English Law in the 1600s treated Businesses as "Individuals". You ask about the Constitution. The Constitution limits what the Federal Government can do to us, not what it has to do for us. (cont'd)
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
You don't like to do home work much, I suppose. Well, too bad, nothing I can do about that. English Law in the 1600s isn't exactly the US Constitution, is it?! Actually we fought them (English), didn't we?! :D Is a corp a human being? LOL. " that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights," remember this one? Think about what their Creator means here.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
So is this your fear of taking responsibility for the implications to our 21st Century Society if we were to foolishly follow your plan? You don't want to answer what happens when someone doesn't have resources to trade or barter for food since their money is worthless? Don't clumsily attempt to put words in my mouth. A Corporation can act as an INDIVIDUAL (i.e. I can sue the shit out of Toyota for their brakes). Again, the Constitution is clear about Governments limits. You aren't familiar?
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
There is an individual human, an individual cat, an individual dog, etc. Do you know what "corporate personhood" is? It's about granting all the rights in the Constitution to Corps as if they are human beings. Oh, well, you didn't know much about it I suppose. You see that's what happens when you don't like to do home work.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Actually, it sadly demonstrates that you would prefer to view things through your distorted delusion rather than based in fact. As a shareholder in a Company do I NOT have a vested interest in that Company's success? If not, why invest again? Again, the Law is clear. Though you may not like it, it is Law. Fortunately the Framers understood that established limits on Government were more important than your whims. Thank God for Madison, right? Any luck with the Societal implications plan yet?
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
It's not a Law. It's the Court decisions, so far. Again, do some home work. It's like this: sps you own a company (a Private Biz), say Y. Y does't have a personhood. Y is just your property. A Corp on the other hand has been considered by the court since 1886. It's the court decisions, so it can be repealed. You seem to like "Corporate Personhood". Keep it up, then.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
It's not a Law? Again, the Constitution of the United States places limits upon what the Government can do to Individuals. The very same individuals whose INTERESTS are vested VIA STOCKS in a Corporation. As a GROUP, they want a RETURN on their investment. The difference between You and I is, I want Government to STAY OUT OF MY LIFE. Why are you willing to grant the Federal Government more power than it already has stolen? If I want to sue GM, I should be able to. Why is that a bad thing?
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
1886-1776=100 Oops 110. No Corp were a person for 110 yrs. Also, note that the govn't (precisely the court) made Corps persons. Of course under the Constitution the govn't has no power of doing that.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
1886? Oops! Better try again. See my notation regards to the 1844 case. Of course, if we hadn't experienced the Industrial Revolution, we would have had no need to catagorize a Corporation as an Individual entity. Ah, those were the good ol' days...........who WOULDN'T want to go back to that???? Again, you miss the point that the Constitution makes -ZERO- limitations on Corporations. Again, that pesky piece of paper making things tough for you. If only you could just tear it up................
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
OK, girl friend, now it's 1844-1776=68, then. Dig it up. You may find one from 1776. LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Look at the sad Muppet, still bobbing and weaving. Tell me, Sad Muppet, where does the Constitution limit Corporations or Companies? Where Muppet? Tell me, Sad Muppet, when are you going to explain the consequences of the U.S. declaring Bankruptcy to us and the world? Wait, I'll bet you think all those guys in uniform will just say "New money? Sure, I'll still come to work!" don't you? Still waiting for you to elaborate on America shredding our Treaties up (like NATO). This if FUN!!!
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Tell me,where does the Constitution says Corps are persons? Also note that a Corp & a private biz is different things.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
You demonstrate yet again that you do not understand what the Constitution is. The Constitution does NOT give us definitions of what PRIVATE Institutions or Businesses are or what they can or can not do. Comrade Obama himself called the Constitution a "Charter of Negative Liberties". Why? Because he is ANGRY that the Constitution LIMITS what Government CAN & CAN NOT DO rather than what it SHOULD or SHOULD NOT do. It pisses him of apparently as much as it does you. How fascinating.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
"Tell me,where does the Constitution says Corps are persons? Also note that a Corp & a private biz is different things."
There is no mention of the Constitution defines what Corps are nor what private biz is.
"the Constitution LIMITS what Government CAN & CAN NOT DO"
Yep, this is true. So, the govn't can't make a corp a person under the constitution. Good one. :)
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
The Constitution LIMITS the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. All POWERS not granted to the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT belong to THE STATE GOVERNMENTS. I'll go out on a limb here and say you don't have a strong grasp of the Tenth Amendment, do you? There is no mention in the Constitution that says you have a right to drive a car. Therefore, you shouldn't have them? Again, the Framers understood that there would be people like you who don't pay attention to our Founding Documents. How fortunate you are.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Also, note that the Constitution doesn't say that the govn't can stop me from driving a car. LOL. Tell me, can the Govn't (Fed) make a corp a person under the Constitution? :)
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
You are right. The Constitution does NOT say that the Federal Government can stop you from driving a car. The TENTH AMENDMENT however says: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." That means that the State where you live CAN STOP YOU FROM DRIVING SAID CAR just like they CAN GRANT CORPORATIONS! Oops, that darn Constitution messing it up for you again. Damn James Madison! LOL
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
It was the supreme court decisions (Corporate Personhood). LOL. You wrote the case name, too. Now, it's gone for some reason. LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
You really don't understand the Constitution do you? Here, I'll try to dumb it down for you: The Tenth Amendment grants powers to the States that are NOT directly given to the Federal Government (Like GRANTING CORPORATIONS). The Commerce Clause of Article 1, Section 8 is what the Federal Government uses to weigh in on such matters. That's all. Nothing more. Nothing less. The Supreme Court merely used logic in determining the REPRESENTING the RIGHTS of STOCKHOLDERS. Madison beats you again.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
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In Louisville, C. & C.R. Co. v. Letson, 2 How. 497, 558, 11 L.Ed. 353 (1844),
****the U.S. Supreme Court****
Just say you fucked up, man. I will forgive you. You know I've made a lot of additions & corrections along the way, too. LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Silly Obama Schill, I'll post it again for you: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Please, don't take it out on the rest of us that you hate the Constitution. Fortunately for scum like you, people like me (and the Justices of the Supreme Court) have actually read our Founding Documents and understand what they mean. Why are you afraid Obama Schill? Why?
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
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In Louisville, C. & C.R. Co. v. Letson, 2 How. 497, 558, 11 L.Ed. 353 (1844),
****the U.S. Supreme Court****
LOL. I added few stars & the rest you typed. Thank you. LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Obama Schill, I'll post it again: Tenth Amendment: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Perhaps we could couple that with this source: "Although the concept of a legal person is more central to Western law in both common law and civil law countries, it is also found in virtually every legal system." Uh Oh........someone is not falling in line Obama Schill.........
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
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In Louisville, C. & C.R. Co. v. Letson, 2 How. 497, 558, 11 L.Ed. 353 (1844),
****the U.S. Supreme Court****
Tell me, is the U.S. Supreme Court a part of the Fed?? Tick Tock Tick Tock ........ LOL.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
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" "In the common law tradition, only a person could sue or be sued....Thus, when a corporation breached a contract or broke a law, there was no remedy, because limited liability protected the owners and the corporation wasn't a legal person subject to the law. There was no accountability for corporate wrong-doing." Obama Schill, shall I post more? This is awesome!!! How about a rousing discussion of thrombolytics in the treatment of CVA? Tick Tock Tick Tock.........To easy!!
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
Correction:
"A Corp on the other hand has been considered as a person by the court since 1886."
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Since 1886? "In Louisville, C. & C.R. Co. v. Letson, 2 How. 497, 558, 11 L.Ed. 353 (1844), the U.S. Supreme Court held that for the purposes of the case at hand, a corporation is capable of being treated as a citizen of [the State which created it], as much as a natural person."
Details...Details. Of course, that doesn't include English Common Law from which our form of Government grew.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Now, you are bitching about the fact that I didn't write the name of the case. LOL. Ok, girl, have it your way. You see it wasn't that hard, was it, doing home work. :)
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
Ah, "Girl" is it? That's funny coming from someone who is afraid to state clearly the consequences of it's delusional ramblings about Bankruptcy and the National, International & Societal Implications of said plan. You keep bobbing and weaving, I'll keep exposing your nauseating numbskullery for what it is. Still waiting for you to man up "Bankruptcy Muppet". Tick Tock Tick Tock. I'm not on duty tomorrow so I can do this all night............
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
It's interesting to read someone posting that "if we do A, then B will happen, so it's not gonna work, If we do C, then D will happen, so it's not gonna work, & so on. I don't think that way. Cause thinking that way gets me nowhere". The funny thing about history is it is replete with examples of what happens when we do "A", "B" or "C". If we decide to merely do it anyway expecting a different result than what happened before...well, the definition of insanity is...........?
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
@TheRentschmeister
Now you know why I told you about Lincoln & greenbacks, & tell you to read the history. You said it better than I could. Congratulation.
nonaCbarC 2 years ago
So this is your continued sad avoidance of discussing the --realities-- that lie at the heart of your "Plan"? A bit ham-fisted to be sure. I'm sorry, how much U.S. Debt did the rest of the world own as a percentage of our GDP in Lincoln's day? How many Unfunded Liabilities did Lincoln have to worry about? I don't recall any but I'm sure you'll be able to "Enlighten" me with all of your vast wisdom.
TheRentschmeister 2 years ago
OK..............
5 Stars
"Orgone Is The Key"
OrgoneIsTheKey 2 years ago
LMAO!! AWESOME
bigc028282 2 years ago
strategy or oops?
curiouschem 2 years ago
Meant specifically for D.C.
The video response is the 'correct' version!
HorseofPaulRevere 2 years ago