Proof? muahah! How could you POSSIBLY prove anything, you werent there so any information you have is second hand at best. That you speak of proof is already delusional. that you speak of the "BUSH ADMINISTRATION" shows you have as little grip on reality as all these Jones lemmings. You actually believe elections are real, dont you? muhahaha. You are a fucking SLAVE. you are a part of the biggest murder machine ever and YOU TOO HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS. fight back or pay the price.
Bob Kahl is a fucking idiot. You people will do anything for a good conspiracy story. You really think that the government needs to go through all that trouble to start a war with Iraq. We could start a war right now with N. Korea and no one would do shit about it except cheer us on. No one in their right mind believes that 911 was an inside job just to start a war. Gabbie Gibbords is freakin smokin hot!!!
@BlueSta1n Nice comeback. I have mountains of engineering evidence and scientific proof that 911 is a book to be judged by its cover and you reply with this. Show me the evidence for your argument. You are the one who is brainwashed. You are in love with the so called truth which is simply a snowball effect of paranoids like yourself. The Bush administration wasn't smart enough to pull something off 911 and make it look as though it were a terrorist plot. Enjoy your weed idiot.
@kytrex I dont give a damn fuck about 911, it's not why I said you were brainwashed. It's for the rest of your comment. But I need not to argue with you fool, and you need not to argue with me, as you see in me what I see in you. Go on with your life.
84% DON"T believe the 911 REPORT... Gabby obviously does NOT know the TRUTH
and worse she did NOT look at the video, and does NOT WANT to know the Truth she is a useless SHILL, but no incumbent can loose... with Rigged elections
and too few [435 seats] so YOU MUST change 435 House reps to 10,000 House seats, to get back to the 30,000 - 1 RATIO the founding Fathers set up.
Haha, well at least she listened to him and told him that she was unwilling to help him. I would have told that joker to fuck off. Talk about wasted time.
Why do people praise a War Criminal? She still funds a criminal enterprise like Iraq yet says discussions of Impeaching the original crime lords is off the table. She can stop funding the war just as EASILY.
she didn't say "take a hike," she said "take care." in fact, the subtitles throughout this thing are slightly off.
giffords did a great job of being polite to this guy. i like her weary "i don't really need two copies of this, do i?" her job is to represent the people of her district, not betray them by backing a completely absurd conspiracy theory with no basis in reality.
Please I know that she is your rep. but she is a freshman and a woman.And up for reelection. Thank you for trying but we need a 23 amendment to the constition limiting the military complex to 3% of the budget similair to Germany and Japan after WWII and ther wars of agression.Americans will be infinitively richer : health care research and design reforestation ect
Think! The average US wage has dropped from $34,000 to $28,000 in the past 4 years. Your troops are getting stuffed in Iraq - US house prices have collapsed by %50 in the past year - your middle classes (whose jobs are disappearing down a Chinese drain pipe) can no longer afford health care - oil producing countries across the world are dumping the dollar - oh - and by the way - American traitors are going to be allowed to murder thousands of their own citizens in the cold light of day!
The perceived fear came from saying the wrong thing and thereby appearing to the viewers/voters to either accept or reject the conspiracy theories. If she appeared to go either way she would have risked alienating voters, so she was very focused on not doing so. That has nothing to do with the issue, but everything to do with winning elections.
And that is precisely the essence of a compromised representative. She is being asked to conduct a criminal investigation against 911. She's not being asked to buy a conspiracy theory. Two leading members of the 911 Commission publicly stated that the Commission Report is lacking crucial testimony and contains false testimony. Meanwhile, we still do not have a criminal investigation of 911. If Giffords will let such a miscarriage of justice to continue, she must step down.
She is a politician and does what a politician does. If she would ask for a criminal investigation against 9/11 (whatever that means), then people will draw their own conclusions as to whether or not she believes in the 9/11 Truth movement's conspiracy theories. If she is perceived to be a supporter of those conspiracy theories, she would be slaughtered when she tries to be re-elected. Isn't this obvious?
"She is a politician". So is Ron Paul. So is Dennis Kucinich. You don't know what a homicide investigation is? Or are you saying you don't know the differences between criminal courts, civil courts and a "bi-partisan" commission empowered to do very little?
The only people that would take offense to her stand for a criminal investigation are the 14% of the psychotropics induced nut-jobs that buy the 911 Commission Report. A report that is the biggest most laughable conspiracy theory going. Giffords "handlers" might take offense to such a stance, but not the 86% of the public that believes there is some problem with the official story.
If asking for a criminal investigation of 9/11 is not perceived as a losing position, but rather a winning position (as you seem to claim), why would she reject it?
She rejects it because her decisions do not reflect her electorate. For example, 80% of the population want universal health care. They've wanted it for a long time. We don't have it. She acts in accordance to the people who have paid for her campaign. The peoples' will are tertiary at best and what matters is the wealth of the nation.
Those that have essentially annointed her are the wealth of her community. She does not follow the electorate. She follows her "handlers" and that also is the essence of a compromised representative. Majorunderscore, our discussion had formed a circle in your last post, so I will likely devote no further time to this. Please investigate the facts of 911 with objectivity.
Would not a candidate whose views are not consistent with what the voters view as important be very vulnerable to other candidates? The 9/11 Truth movement's agenda concerns a national level, so local businesspeople would be willing to support such an opposing candidate, if they themselves did not view your position as that of a bunch of conspiracy theorist crazies. Your own involvement with the 9/11 Truthers has closed your eyes as to how your movement is perceived.
80% want universal health care? Lol. You can also ask the population if they want lower taxes, and they would say "yes", so there is no consistent policy that can be created by ruling by public opinion poll. It is the job of a politician to represent a position that does not include such obvious contradictions, but still remain a good enough candidate for the voters to vote into office.
Basically all this woman is saying is 'if someone else wants to risk their ascent of the political ladder in the name of truth and justice and if that risk seems to be paying off then I might, that is...might, consider grabbing on to their coat tails, but only if it's good for my career!'
Actually, what she said is more sophisticated than that. Since she does not believe in associating herself with this issue, she makes up an excuse for why she _can't_ do anything about it. Thereby the 9/11 Truthers will maintain some faith in that maybe she _does_ support their cause (or at least does not oppose it), but is not a senior enough representative to actually do something about the issue. What she said, she said in order to not lose the support of potential voters. Vote Giffords! ;-)
That's a pretty funny idea of what is sophisticated. The "take a hike" tells me they're on to her. Meanwhile, there is no criminal investigation of 911. I think now only the shills vote Giffords.
You are all fucking nut jobs; get a life! If you believe that 9/11 was an inside job,you will believe Hitler didn't exit also. How can you actually be that STUPID! YOU are ignorant beyond belief
Research the conspiracy theory your government presents to you. You are the nut. And no worries, I believe Hitler existed. The 'Federal' Reserve arranged the circumstances and Bonesman Bush, the Bank of England and others financed his war machine.
From the Guardian: "On 11 September, while Al-Qaeda's planes slammed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the Carlyle Group hosted a conference at a Washington hotel. Among the guests of honour was a valued investor: Shafig bin Laden, brother to Osama."
You know where Bush's brother was? Securing the World Trade Centers.
I think you are missing the point spookynshadow. We want an INVESTIGATION not proof that it was an inside job. All we know for sure is that the facts don't match the story and that the current administration STONEWALLED the last investigation and that half the report was blacked out - NOW WE WANT TO KNOW WHY! Ignorance is bliss - I know - but it ain't the truth so why don't you get out of your comfort zone and be a responsible person and think for yourself.
Wow - if that woman is typical of an American female politician then boy are you lot in trouble - what a spineless fairy! No wonder they got away with 9/11!
"911 Truth Squad Reaches Democrat Gabbie Giffords"? You mean, "reaches" as in "is rejected by"? If she thought that there was any merit to your position she would have jumped on it. Now she is just hoping that it will go away. Maybe you guys should practise a bit "what they said and what they mean" to properly interpret politicians' responses to your requests.
And profiteers, don't forget - oh and liars too! And let's not forget theives either. My oh my we have our work cut out for us, people. We the people sure do have a lot to do.
1) The women that Saddam's men raped would be shown on every liberal outlet, again and again. You would hear hundreds of stories of the brutality and suffering. And you better believe they would "All" be on Oprah.
2) You would also see stories on the kids that Saddam imprisoned, because we know how much the Liberals love the kids, even though there hasn't been a peep out of them about the imprisoned childred.
He's boring the hell out of Giffords.
thenutbar44 7 months ago
@kytrex
Proof? muahah! How could you POSSIBLY prove anything, you werent there so any information you have is second hand at best. That you speak of proof is already delusional. that you speak of the "BUSH ADMINISTRATION" shows you have as little grip on reality as all these Jones lemmings. You actually believe elections are real, dont you? muhahaha. You are a fucking SLAVE. you are a part of the biggest murder machine ever and YOU TOO HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS. fight back or pay the price.
DJpopel 9 months ago
I love me a hot jew.
FaKeYoUrGoD 11 months ago
Bob Kahl is a fucking idiot. You people will do anything for a good conspiracy story. You really think that the government needs to go through all that trouble to start a war with Iraq. We could start a war right now with N. Korea and no one would do shit about it except cheer us on. No one in their right mind believes that 911 was an inside job just to start a war. Gabbie Gibbords is freakin smokin hot!!!
kytrex 1 year ago
@kytrex
You are totally brainwashed.
BlueSta1n 10 months ago
@BlueSta1n Nice comeback. I have mountains of engineering evidence and scientific proof that 911 is a book to be judged by its cover and you reply with this. Show me the evidence for your argument. You are the one who is brainwashed. You are in love with the so called truth which is simply a snowball effect of paranoids like yourself. The Bush administration wasn't smart enough to pull something off 911 and make it look as though it were a terrorist plot. Enjoy your weed idiot.
kytrex 10 months ago
@kytrex I dont give a damn fuck about 911, it's not why I said you were brainwashed. It's for the rest of your comment. But I need not to argue with you fool, and you need not to argue with me, as you see in me what I see in you. Go on with your life.
BlueSta1n 10 months ago
@BlueSta1n
I like arguing with idiots. It's easy and fun. Nice poetry. Where did you get that from, Tupac???
kytrex 10 months ago
she is D.E.A.D. snakes are sqirmin now!
sexymasterj 1 year ago
well, that explains.
fedzog 1 year ago
so who is Bob Kahl? is he still around in 911 truth?
masonfreeparty 1 year ago
She's a class act.
NaliniL 1 year ago
84% DON"T believe the 911 REPORT... Gabby obviously does NOT know the TRUTH
and worse she did NOT look at the video, and does NOT WANT to know the Truth she is a useless SHILL, but no incumbent can loose... with Rigged elections
and too few [435 seats] so YOU MUST change 435 House reps to 10,000 House seats, to get back to the 30,000 - 1 RATIO the founding Fathers set up.
Go See: "Warnken, without Representation"
006006006006 1 year ago
Take a hike? Hahahaha more like Take care! You people crack me up. Leave if you dont like it
03AZRoush 3 years ago
Heroic Truthers!
deathtotyrannts 4 years ago
Haha, well at least she listened to him and told him that she was unwilling to help him. I would have told that joker to fuck off. Talk about wasted time.
NuclearHellFire 4 years ago
How can this woman claim to be a Congressional Representative when she fully unwilling to represent the people whom she has sworn to represent?
lariots925 4 years ago
Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Why do people praise a War Criminal? She still funds a criminal enterprise like Iraq yet says discussions of Impeaching the original crime lords is off the table. She can stop funding the war just as EASILY.
Washington, D.C. Office - 235 Cannon HOB - Washington, DC 20515 - (202) 225-4965
Wear her down with your VOICE. Tell her you know the TRUTH and aren't buying her bullshit anymore. Call her the War Criminal she is!
joecitizan 4 years ago
she didn't say "take a hike," she said "take care." in fact, the subtitles throughout this thing are slightly off.
giffords did a great job of being polite to this guy. i like her weary "i don't really need two copies of this, do i?" her job is to represent the people of her district, not betray them by backing a completely absurd conspiracy theory with no basis in reality.
nocturneboy 4 years ago
coward.
lariots925 4 years ago
she should have told the the guy toi get a life
Guinnie 4 years ago 3
Please I know that she is your rep. but she is a freshman and a woman.And up for reelection. Thank you for trying but we need a 23 amendment to the constition limiting the military complex to 3% of the budget similair to Germany and Japan after WWII and ther wars of agression.Americans will be infinitively richer : health care research and design reforestation ect
Pablovoncrunchnoble 4 years ago
vote her ass out now, vote em all, but i think its too late folks, i pray its not.
woodyburkhalter 4 years ago
Think! The average US wage has dropped from $34,000 to $28,000 in the past 4 years. Your troops are getting stuffed in Iraq - US house prices have collapsed by %50 in the past year - your middle classes (whose jobs are disappearing down a Chinese drain pipe) can no longer afford health care - oil producing countries across the world are dumping the dollar - oh - and by the way - American traitors are going to be allowed to murder thousands of their own citizens in the cold light of day!
tjc117 4 years ago
Interesting - the woman's body language expresses total fear! Looks like the 9/11 truthers are on to something!
tjc117 4 years ago
The perceived fear came from saying the wrong thing and thereby appearing to the viewers/voters to either accept or reject the conspiracy theories. If she appeared to go either way she would have risked alienating voters, so she was very focused on not doing so. That has nothing to do with the issue, but everything to do with winning elections.
majorunderscore 4 years ago
And that is precisely the essence of a compromised representative. She is being asked to conduct a criminal investigation against 911. She's not being asked to buy a conspiracy theory. Two leading members of the 911 Commission publicly stated that the Commission Report is lacking crucial testimony and contains false testimony. Meanwhile, we still do not have a criminal investigation of 911. If Giffords will let such a miscarriage of justice to continue, she must step down.
Liesoftimes 4 years ago
Oops, should be "allow such a miscarriage".
Liesoftimes 4 years ago
She is a politician and does what a politician does. If she would ask for a criminal investigation against 9/11 (whatever that means), then people will draw their own conclusions as to whether or not she believes in the 9/11 Truth movement's conspiracy theories. If she is perceived to be a supporter of those conspiracy theories, she would be slaughtered when she tries to be re-elected. Isn't this obvious?
majorunderscore 4 years ago
"She is a politician". So is Ron Paul. So is Dennis Kucinich. You don't know what a homicide investigation is? Or are you saying you don't know the differences between criminal courts, civil courts and a "bi-partisan" commission empowered to do very little?
Liesoftimes 4 years ago
The only people that would take offense to her stand for a criminal investigation are the 14% of the psychotropics induced nut-jobs that buy the 911 Commission Report. A report that is the biggest most laughable conspiracy theory going. Giffords "handlers" might take offense to such a stance, but not the 86% of the public that believes there is some problem with the official story.
Liesoftimes 4 years ago
If asking for a criminal investigation of 9/11 is not perceived as a losing position, but rather a winning position (as you seem to claim), why would she reject it?
majorunderscore 4 years ago
She rejects it because her decisions do not reflect her electorate. For example, 80% of the population want universal health care. They've wanted it for a long time. We don't have it. She acts in accordance to the people who have paid for her campaign. The peoples' will are tertiary at best and what matters is the wealth of the nation.
Liesoftimes 4 years ago
Those that have essentially annointed her are the wealth of her community. She does not follow the electorate. She follows her "handlers" and that also is the essence of a compromised representative. Majorunderscore, our discussion had formed a circle in your last post, so I will likely devote no further time to this. Please investigate the facts of 911 with objectivity.
Liesoftimes 4 years ago
Would not a candidate whose views are not consistent with what the voters view as important be very vulnerable to other candidates? The 9/11 Truth movement's agenda concerns a national level, so local businesspeople would be willing to support such an opposing candidate, if they themselves did not view your position as that of a bunch of conspiracy theorist crazies. Your own involvement with the 9/11 Truthers has closed your eyes as to how your movement is perceived.
majorunderscore 4 years ago
80% want universal health care? Lol. You can also ask the population if they want lower taxes, and they would say "yes", so there is no consistent policy that can be created by ruling by public opinion poll. It is the job of a politician to represent a position that does not include such obvious contradictions, but still remain a good enough candidate for the voters to vote into office.
majorunderscore 4 years ago
she did an excellent job, I wonder if our representatives have workshops on how to deal with "unusual" people, I bet she was in the top of the class.
Ender1zero1 4 years ago
Basically all this woman is saying is 'if someone else wants to risk their ascent of the political ladder in the name of truth and justice and if that risk seems to be paying off then I might, that is...might, consider grabbing on to their coat tails, but only if it's good for my career!'
Coward!
Octorod 4 years ago
Actually, what she said is more sophisticated than that. Since she does not believe in associating herself with this issue, she makes up an excuse for why she _can't_ do anything about it. Thereby the 9/11 Truthers will maintain some faith in that maybe she _does_ support their cause (or at least does not oppose it), but is not a senior enough representative to actually do something about the issue. What she said, she said in order to not lose the support of potential voters. Vote Giffords! ;-)
majorunderscore 4 years ago
That's a pretty funny idea of what is sophisticated. The "take a hike" tells me they're on to her. Meanwhile, there is no criminal investigation of 911. I think now only the shills vote Giffords.
Liesoftimes 4 years ago
I meant "sophisticated" as in politically more advanced, i.e. how a more experienced career politician would handle the question.
majorunderscore 4 years ago
You are all fucking nut jobs; get a life! If you believe that 9/11 was an inside job,you will believe Hitler didn't exit also. How can you actually be that STUPID! YOU are ignorant beyond belief
spookynshadow 4 years ago
Research the conspiracy theory your government presents to you. You are the nut. And no worries, I believe Hitler existed. The 'Federal' Reserve arranged the circumstances and Bonesman Bush, the Bank of England and others financed his war machine.
Archosz 4 years ago
From the Guardian: "On 11 September, while Al-Qaeda's planes slammed into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the Carlyle Group hosted a conference at a Washington hotel. Among the guests of honour was a valued investor: Shafig bin Laden, brother to Osama."
You know where Bush's brother was? Securing the World Trade Centers.
Archosz 4 years ago
I think you are missing the point spookynshadow. We want an INVESTIGATION not proof that it was an inside job. All we know for sure is that the facts don't match the story and that the current administration STONEWALLED the last investigation and that half the report was blacked out - NOW WE WANT TO KNOW WHY! Ignorance is bliss - I know - but it ain't the truth so why don't you get out of your comfort zone and be a responsible person and think for yourself.
lizbitchwitch 4 years ago
Wow - if that woman is typical of an American female politician then boy are you lot in trouble - what a spineless fairy! No wonder they got away with 9/11!
BUDDAX10 4 years ago
Cynthia Mckinney was going to do something? There you have it then.
jimisback 4 years ago
"911 Truth Squad Reaches Democrat Gabbie Giffords"? You mean, "reaches" as in "is rejected by"? If she thought that there was any merit to your position she would have jumped on it. Now she is just hoping that it will go away. Maybe you guys should practise a bit "what they said and what they mean" to properly interpret politicians' responses to your requests.
majorunderscore 4 years ago
RON PAUL 2008
selfTrust1 4 years ago
Congress is full of nothing but COWARDS.
propheticlivity 4 years ago
And profiteers, don't forget - oh and liars too! And let's not forget theives either. My oh my we have our work cut out for us, people. We the people sure do have a lot to do.
lizbitchwitch 4 years ago
If Bill Clinton went to war with Iraq:
1) The women that Saddam's men raped would be shown on every liberal outlet, again and again. You would hear hundreds of stories of the brutality and suffering. And you better believe they would "All" be on Oprah.
2) You would also see stories on the kids that Saddam imprisoned, because we know how much the Liberals love the kids, even though there hasn't been a peep out of them about the imprisoned childred.
darcytirsia 4 years ago
Ya..she's not bought and paid for *rolls eyes*
QSN2006 4 years ago
911 was a inside job!!
Even in a minority of one the truth is still the truth!!
The world did not become round when "the Masses" agreed!!
joetaylormade 4 years ago