lets not pile on here people, many of the these motions and positions are unatural and very new to a person just starting. i am starting over myself after a 13 layoff in wing chun and i am very rusty working hard to build up again technique, muscle memory and balance. it is not easy but with time and effort it will come. i have become more jkd focused using many if not all of those basic principles but do not show those in class out of respect to my sifu.
none of those stop kicks would work. you are kicking below the knee. the kicker can simply relax his knee and allow the lower leg to pass by your foot and then kick you in the face. a proper stop kick is delivered by the bottom of the foot to the kickers quad. this prevents him from being able to extend his kick.
@thepyre Hi you are correct and he knew this but because we didn't have proper gear? hockey shin gaurds he prefered to kick to the shin, but in a real fight would the knee, also note* this was his 1st time doing this ever, I explained to him after we looked over this vid that he needs to work on this, but hey he will improve over time just like with any thing you start out doing.
@theawakener7 Hey thanks for the comment yea that was the problem we didn't have hockey gaurds back then, so we couldn't use good force like I wanted to, this was his first time training a stop kick so I was being patient with him, he needs work on his balance, timing, and actually stopping me with the kick, he could be countered by a re-zoning step easily, hopefully he has been working on this since this vid, in time comes improvements hey thanks again.
@tycoon121 A kick is just a kick and a punch is just a punch lol I know it sounds strange, but if you undesrstand what that means it makes a lot of sense, hey thanks for the comment.
his bi Jong Stance is too wide ,his chin is up and he needs to work on his strong side forward first also too much jamming on his stop hit. With a step and slide forward he can cover ground and meet the attack with his stop hit, if his stop hit getts jammed he will be in close range where clinching and other phases of fighting can happen.
@thelimp31 Yup you are right and I explained some of this to him after I had a look at what we recorded, in this vid I believe this was his first time training on a kick ever so I gotta be patient with him and in time he will get better, hey nice tips thanks for the comment.
@Solandrios I agree but note this was one of his first time training as with any technique it takes practice, but good question and thanks for the comment.
Okay, do you have any tips to help correct it? I know I was doing the same thing about a year or so ago when I adopted the bai jong, but I noticed it myself and corrected. But how would you be able to explain, concisely, how the position should feel, and also how wide the stance should be. I'm pretty sure that we both agree that the stance should be tailored to the individual.
@Solandrios Should feel relaxed don't be set & tensed be flexible, raise up on the ball of your rear foot, your rear right hand protects the right & left side of your face & groin, your right forearm protects the center of body & right elbow protects the right side of body, left hand protects left & right side of face & groin, left elbow protects center & left ribs & left side of body, slightly raise left shoulder & slightly drop chin, also left knee turns slightly inward & heel turns outwards.
He does seem too rigid but Im pretty sure that this was like only his 3rd time training but he will improve in time though, hey thanks for the comment man.
your welcome. and r you the guy teaching him? if so ur doing a good job i really like ur vids . and also if so i was wondering if you can make a vid on jkd grappling. cuz the may thing for me in jkd is i need to practice my grappling skills
Thanks man and as far as grappling if the fight goes to the ground I would go for the eyes, bite, hair pull, the groin, throat, any thing I can to get back up to my feet, but you should study grappling to understand it, but if you want to learn how to grapple then jujitsu would be for you, its up to you though what you want to do.
k thanks i used to wrestle took some camps and i took some classes on bjj. and grapple with my friends. but ya i would do the things you said. bruce lee always thought to do anything to protect yourself which i agree. i like stand up fighting to, and i always thought jkd had some grappling in it. in tao of jkd it had some grappling moves. but jkd doesn't focus on grappling alot.
Adding to what Apmhflick said, I'd like to see your partner target your kneee more and really use gravity and his push step to stomp through your knee. Also, it would be much more realistic if you had him train stright leads on your face. If he does that a few dozen times a day he will be in good shape.
For people who don't actually train like this without pads, try having someone do a hard stop kick on you while you rush in 30 times. Then realize that part of training is reflex conditioning.
Hey thanks for the insight, on the targeting my knee I didn't have knee pads and also the shin pads i had on was very light/thin, I explained to him about drive through the knee but he didn't want to use force since it was his 1st time doing this, but as soon as I get knee pads he will, and the straight lead yup your correct thats why I eventually got the helmet for realistic training that you have to feel to understand, hey thanks again.
Haha cool but l was only kidding about training by stomping on your knees and punching you in the face. l was answering Apmhflick's criticism with sarcasm. Great video.
Just a tip. When the white guy stop kicks, he needs to be less rigid and transfer more energy to that lead foot. If he just tosses the leg out there, it won't stop anything. Try twisting your back foot and throwing your rear hand down to generate more power.
Acutually throwing your lead had down does seem to add more power, but also its always good to keep your gaurd up, leaning back also helps to minimize getting hit by your opponent.
Hey thanks for the tip, yes I explained to him the kick and pivot/twisting his rear foot, he's still learning how to use his body he barley started training not that long ago, but im sure in time he will get it, he's dedicated which is a good thing.
lets not pile on here people, many of the these motions and positions are unatural and very new to a person just starting. i am starting over myself after a 13 layoff in wing chun and i am very rusty working hard to build up again technique, muscle memory and balance. it is not easy but with time and effort it will come. i have become more jkd focused using many if not all of those basic principles but do not show those in class out of respect to my sifu.
jbadaluco 1 month ago
none of those stop kicks would work. you are kicking below the knee. the kicker can simply relax his knee and allow the lower leg to pass by your foot and then kick you in the face. a proper stop kick is delivered by the bottom of the foot to the kickers quad. this prevents him from being able to extend his kick.
thepyre 1 year ago
@thepyre Hi you are correct and he knew this but because we didn't have proper gear? hockey shin gaurds he prefered to kick to the shin, but in a real fight would the knee, also note* this was his 1st time doing this ever, I explained to him after we looked over this vid that he needs to work on this, but hey he will improve over time just like with any thing you start out doing.
JKDSTORM 1 year ago
@theawakener7 Hey thanks for the comment yea that was the problem we didn't have hockey gaurds back then, so we couldn't use good force like I wanted to, this was his first time training a stop kick so I was being patient with him, he needs work on his balance, timing, and actually stopping me with the kick, he could be countered by a re-zoning step easily, hopefully he has been working on this since this vid, in time comes improvements hey thanks again.
JKDSTORM 1 year ago
this looks similar to the shirly temple kicks (or however you spell it) but are they?
tycoon121 1 year ago
@tycoon121 A kick is just a kick and a punch is just a punch lol I know it sounds strange, but if you undesrstand what that means it makes a lot of sense, hey thanks for the comment.
JKDSTORM 1 year ago
wow way toooo wide thats like double shoulder width wnd he is thinking too much about the open
charley19781 2 years ago
Yeah this was his first time.
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
his bi Jong Stance is too wide ,his chin is up and he needs to work on his strong side forward first also too much jamming on his stop hit. With a step and slide forward he can cover ground and meet the attack with his stop hit, if his stop hit getts jammed he will be in close range where clinching and other phases of fighting can happen.
thelimp31 2 years ago
@thelimp31 Yup you are right and I explained some of this to him after I had a look at what we recorded, in this vid I believe this was his first time training on a kick ever so I gotta be patient with him and in time he will get better, hey nice tips thanks for the comment.
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
Somebody second me on this if they agree:
His right lead stance is alright, but his left lead is relatively shallow.
Does anyone else but me see this?
I'm just asking because I'm working with someone who does about the same thing.
Is it common?
Solandrios 2 years ago
@Solandrios I agree but note this was one of his first time training as with any technique it takes practice, but good question and thanks for the comment.
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
Okay, do you have any tips to help correct it? I know I was doing the same thing about a year or so ago when I adopted the bai jong, but I noticed it myself and corrected. But how would you be able to explain, concisely, how the position should feel, and also how wide the stance should be. I'm pretty sure that we both agree that the stance should be tailored to the individual.
Solandrios 2 years ago
@Solandrios Should feel relaxed don't be set & tensed be flexible, raise up on the ball of your rear foot, your rear right hand protects the right & left side of your face & groin, your right forearm protects the center of body & right elbow protects the right side of body, left hand protects left & right side of face & groin, left elbow protects center & left ribs & left side of body, slightly raise left shoulder & slightly drop chin, also left knee turns slightly inward & heel turns outwards.
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
@Solandrios also Stance should be maybe shoulder width apart in terms of how wide it should be, not too wide or with feet too close.
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
nice technique but in my observations the jkd stance looks totally wrong or im taught differently or ur not doin jkd stance
robisgangsta1 2 years ago
He does seem too rigid but Im pretty sure that this was like only his 3rd time training but he will improve in time though, hey thanks for the comment man.
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
your welcome. and r you the guy teaching him? if so ur doing a good job i really like ur vids . and also if so i was wondering if you can make a vid on jkd grappling. cuz the may thing for me in jkd is i need to practice my grappling skills
robisgangsta1 2 years ago
Thanks man and as far as grappling if the fight goes to the ground I would go for the eyes, bite, hair pull, the groin, throat, any thing I can to get back up to my feet, but you should study grappling to understand it, but if you want to learn how to grapple then jujitsu would be for you, its up to you though what you want to do.
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
k thanks i used to wrestle took some camps and i took some classes on bjj. and grapple with my friends. but ya i would do the things you said. bruce lee always thought to do anything to protect yourself which i agree. i like stand up fighting to, and i always thought jkd had some grappling in it. in tao of jkd it had some grappling moves. but jkd doesn't focus on grappling alot.
robisgangsta1 2 years ago
Adding to what Apmhflick said, I'd like to see your partner target your kneee more and really use gravity and his push step to stomp through your knee. Also, it would be much more realistic if you had him train stright leads on your face. If he does that a few dozen times a day he will be in good shape.
For people who don't actually train like this without pads, try having someone do a hard stop kick on you while you rush in 30 times. Then realize that part of training is reflex conditioning.
FalseShadowx 2 years ago
Hey thanks for the insight, on the targeting my knee I didn't have knee pads and also the shin pads i had on was very light/thin, I explained to him about drive through the knee but he didn't want to use force since it was his 1st time doing this, but as soon as I get knee pads he will, and the straight lead yup your correct thats why I eventually got the helmet for realistic training that you have to feel to understand, hey thanks again.
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
Haha cool but l was only kidding about training by stomping on your knees and punching you in the face. l was answering Apmhflick's criticism with sarcasm. Great video.
FalseShadowx 2 years ago
It would be fun to have my knee and nose broken lol just joken, and thanks.
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
Just a tip. When the white guy stop kicks, he needs to be less rigid and transfer more energy to that lead foot. If he just tosses the leg out there, it won't stop anything. Try twisting your back foot and throwing your rear hand down to generate more power.
Apmhflick 2 years ago
Correction: Throw your LEAD hand down. What was I thinking?
Apmhflick 2 years ago
Acutually throwing your lead had down does seem to add more power, but also its always good to keep your gaurd up, leaning back also helps to minimize getting hit by your opponent.
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
Hey thanks for the tip, yes I explained to him the kick and pivot/twisting his rear foot, he's still learning how to use his body he barley started training not that long ago, but im sure in time he will get it, he's dedicated which is a good thing.
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
Im in CA so I don't know about Philly, try google search and see if there is any classes in your town or near by?
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
aimed at the knee to prevent ot only kicks but movement the shin only prevents movement.
vlonp 2 years ago
True and also for training purposes its good to kick the shin.
JKDSTORM 2 years ago
would you know about any classes in phillly.
vlonp 2 years ago