i love Noel Gallagher, and i quite like this too, good to play on my guitar for my friends who like Oasis....who are then bewildered when i start singing this.......oh how sweet ;-)
Neil Innes is a National Treasure: from the Bonzos, through RWT, the Rutles, Monty Python films, his radio series, through to his current tour, his wry thoughtfulness and incisiveness about the world have made me feel so much better about the world. Sweet Idiot indeed. Now if Viv Stanshall had survived as well (or at all)...
I have heard of Neil Innes (through the Rutles). I've never heard of Oasis, except in relation to their plagiarism of this song. Oasis isn't all that great/talented.
@Harold6913 Never heard of Oasis? Really? I don't like them much, but they have the 2nd highest selling album in UK history (after sgt. peppers) and the most record sales from any 90s band.
this song is not even half of what whatver is, they dont even sound alike not even the im free to be and idiot it has differents riffs and different tunes he got away with that sue
Oasis ain't the greatest song writers but this is pure coincidence, taking away credit for what is an amazing song ( whatever - oasis) is bull shit !!!!!!
Can the fans like...not criticize this song? Sure it's not an epic written piece that includes awesome guitar riffing or drum bashing but ffs Oasis paid the royalties to this song, so end of discussion.
"Whatever" was such a rip off from this song, which is in fact a parody making fun of John Lennon's music and lyrics..."Imagine" in particular. Very fitting that Oasis copied a parody of their hero.
Well, so I think you have to really understand all notes of the music. But, in a time in history, I think you will always find at least one music that has similar tones to yours, isn't it?! That happens a lot in Brazil, but the musicians are happy with this. No processes involved. ;]
@shineonoasis Then he heard it somewhere and forgot about it, and the beginning slipped through his memory into Whatever, or he's lying, because it's ridiculous to think it could be that similar by accident. If it had just been the musical portion, I could see it being a fluke, but it's the same right up into the middle of the first line of the song! Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... stealing isn't.
No this Innes Bashing has to stop. It is similar to Whatever and I agree that it was a bit out suing Oasis but Neil Innes is one of the most prolific comedy music writers in history with the Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band, The Rutles and his work with Monty Python in which he was only one of two people ever credited with writing the show (except the pythons themselves) the other being the great Douglas Adams.
Neil Innes is a geneous and a wonderful man. He has always just played songs from the heart and that is so brave. I saw him at the Edinborough Festival in the early eighties singing this song ,and he was so shy and pleased when we cheered. He is worth so much more than people give him the credit for. Urban Spaceman is not all (goodas it so is).
Fuck me you bloody lot you might as well say he ripped off John Lennon's Imagine with the piano parts and then stand him against the wall and shoot him.
@chrishove123 You mean he did not rip off the beetles? Mind they were a bunch of git's as well. Imagine no possessions. All right if you are sat at you're Steinway in you're Berkshire mansion with a psychedelic Rolls Rice parked outside.
This guy is a dick. Nearly every song that comes out could be sued by someone for having at least one bar that sounds similar to a bar in their song. No integrity at all, weird looking talentless douche bag.
@zebbedi when whatever came out came out, this guy might have been down on his look and losing all his money. And the melody of the parts "How sweet to be an idiot" and "I'm free to be whatever I" do sound similar. But yeah Whatever is a better song, and I don't think it's something to sue over. If noel had ripped off the entire song then ok, but it was just that part. and how do you know this guy's talentless. how do you measure talent anyway?
@procrastinator300 Measuring talent is subjective. It was my opinion, I can't corroborate it with any evidence that can't be repudiated with more subjective sentiment. This part of my comment was a display of the emotion I feel about his actions, rather than any empirical science.The important part of what I said you have agreed with. It was an absolute crime that he was able to sue and fortunate for him that he proceeded with legal action at a time when musical copyright law was in a mess.
@procrastinator300 During the early to mid 90's music copyright lawsuits were rife. Sampling was becoming ubiquitous and the legal system wasn't sure how to handle these situations. With a lack of proper guiding legislation in place some decisions were made hastily and in my opinion unfairly. This being an example.
@zebbedi oh yeah huh also the "Newton v. Diamond" case with the Beastie Boys was a major one in terms of sampling. But don't you still think that Neil Innes should still receive writing credits for this song. I mean the melodies do sound similar. The rest of the song does not and whatever is better, but the melody is similar
@zebbedi dude you're right, I just found two other examples, youve prolly heard of them. The Verve released Bitter Sweet Symphony and a lawsuit caused complete composer rights to go to Keith Richards/Mick Jagger even though the lyrics and some of the music were original. Also Deconstructing Beck was an album released in 1998 of music completely made from samples of Beck's music that set off a legal battle. And it posed a challenge to the music industry bcuz Beck's music often uses sampled music
How pissed would you be if some Manc stole your song and made millions off of it? I love Oasis, but Noel has a habit of taking the most catchy bits of older songs and reworking it into the major parts of his songs.
Sounds more like "Maybe I'm Amazed" at the begining!! How this sounds like "Whatever" I don't know,it probably has a basic chord structure,as do many songs,the vocal melody is nothing like,or the orchestration!
@GBPaddling I'm sure I hear something else of the Beatles in that middle8, but I'm not a pro to identify it off hand. Does anyone else hear something there?
Oasis fans r tits. Neil Is a proper artist. Musician,songwrighter and comedian. He's more brains in his balls dan dem manc teats have between em. As for their fans! D obviously dnt know talent. Otherwise d wudn b fans.dnt be ignorant n check neil out bfor ya dis em.
@chalum30 I find it hilarious to say that Neil Innes, infinitely more talented than any member of Oasis times ten, would be jealous of them. And yes, it does sound like Whatever. It sounds EXACTLY like Whatever in the chorus.
@joethulhuz explain why if neil innis so so much infinatly more talented the any member of oasis, oasis have sold around 70million albums and singles, and this guy, well hasnt :L
@chalum30 Well of course Oasis has sold more. Neil Innes is relatively obscure. But Neil Innes is ORIGINAL. Nothing he does sounds like anything else (except the Rutles music, which is, of course, supposed to sound like the Beatles), wheras you can trace practically anything Oasis does back to other people who originated it. Oasis has no inovation. Neil Innes does.
@joethulhuz ok, if your gonna go down that road explain then why Noel claimed to of been suprised when Innes sued him, but admitted 'borrowing' other riffs and stuff from other bands? why wud he only deny using parts of this song instead of admitting it like all the others?
@chalum30 Simple. Because he was being sued. Of course he'd deny the one that was actually suing him. I don't blame him. I'd do the same thing if I were sued for something (though I've never plagiarized anything).
@Jura88 I never heard either song before, but I know that George Harrison was successfully sued for My Sweet Lord by the writer of He's So Fine, and I don't think that was right either. Win or loose seems to be ruled by the Judge's Opinion right or wrong. It has little to do with evidence.
@Miracle490d great song btw, My sweet lord is a nice one, and just listenned to He's so fine, and if you listen to it good, it sounds really simular to My sweet lord tho,
@Miracle490d He's so fine is very similar to my sweet lord. I love George and hate to admit it but it is very similar. This song is nothing like Whatever.
@zebbedi Yep, George got sued for that to and lost. It was found that he unintentionally copied it and had to pay royalties as well as give the rights to his song over to the group... But, years later he bought the rights to both songs anyway. :)
It's a load of rubbish. Apart from one line that sounds vaguely similar from a note point of view, nothing else is even remotely close.
Funny to hear people accusing Oasis of plagiarism, but that's what you get when you write the same kind of rock tunes better than most bands have done before and you're successful at it. People are stretching rather too much because of what they heard from someone. Some Might Say ripped from Imagine? Please.... That's the worst of the lot.
'Whatever' isn't on the 'Stop the Clocks' Best Of either, probably cos Noel didn't want to be hit with a massive legal bill. 'Step Out' was pulled from "morning Glory' cos it totally rips off Stevie Wonder's 'Uptight', crucially they got the letter from the lawyers before the album came out though.
@izvunzemen I know it was a non-album single. That has nothing to do with anything. Neither does my ego. This isn't about me and personal attacks will not help your case.
@awilkied Thought of this melody or ripping it off? The melody, sure, because it's great. But ripping it off, like Oasis did? Not at all. Just because a melody is good doesn't mean you should steal it. Someone really needs to tell Oasis that.
@joethulhuz It's not stolen. Stop being so obvious at failing by protecting something no one really cares about. It's only the first line like the most thumb up'ed comment. Shut up. Live forever.
@izvunzemen It's a recurring melody throughout the song. The song is copyrighted and it's much more then five consecutive notes. It's called copyright infringement and it's illegal. Considered stealing, even. I'm protecting good music, not something no one cares about, and even if it wasn't good, I obviously care about it, so your statement is still untrue. Good day.
@joethulhuz : Watch Noel Gallagher interviews and you will realise he admits that he always wrote songs which borrowed elements from all the big guns. And you think The Beatles, Rolling Stones, The Jam etc didn't do exactly the same? Whatever is one song Noel did not intentionally borrow from, seriously, some unknown song by some parody artist? Noel's an honest guy.
@PredatorFilmsInc The Rolling Stones? Maybe. The Jam? Honestly, I've never heard of them. The Beatles? Two incidents: Opening lines in the songs "Come Together" and "Something" that were tribute rather than ripoff.
Oasis? EVERY SONG. I give credit to the guy for admitting it but that doesn't make me like the operation he's running. And Neil Innes is by no means unknown, and not just a parody artist (though that is mostly what he does). I don't care if it was intentional, it's still a ripoff.
@joethulhuz : Whatever "ripping off" a couple of notes from this song was unintentional, Whatever is an epic song, this song is lame. The Beatles, especially the early Beatles, drew heavily from the rock 'n' rollers from the 50's, such as Chuck Berry, Little Richard and Buddy Holly.
@PredatorFilmsInc In style - not in actual chord progression or anything related. Whatever isn't even a good song ignoring the rip off. How Sweet to be an Idiot is a tongue-in-cheek parody of society. I'll admit Noel Gallagher had a nice voice but the song lacks variety and doesn't even make good use of his voice, as some Oasis songs do. But you'll never change your opinion. You're in love with a rip off - not just of this song - and you'll never admit it. So - how sweet to be an idiot like you.
@joethulhuz read your argument with the oasis-fan, and I salute you my friend! I dont belive they had never heard the song, they must have seen some python in their lifes, being brittish and all, and why not hollywood bowl? stupid twats, they cant get away with it just because neil isent as famous as lets say, lennon/mccartney, who they also was ripping off.
Shame on you Innes! Total coincidence and yet you demand royalties and a writing credit for a song you couldn't have possibly inspired and were in no way responsible for. You have sullied my memories of Puddle Lane forever! :-( Whatever!
You must be an idiot. Sweet to be an idiot? Why do you think the Oasis song is so much popular? Ofcourse cause It connects with people much more then this one. Oasis sing truth and wisdom and you are stupid or have a bad image of them in your head.
You probably don't know anything about music. The two first tones in the Chorus are the same. Do you know how many songs are all in the same tones so this is nothing compared to that.
Everyband has made songs that has the same tones of some old hit songs but few artist charge which is stupid because you can't own tones.
There are probably more songs that have C and D or something in the chorus and about same tempo.
kk that one line 'how sweet to be an idiot' is similar to 'Im free to be Whatever I' but that is all, the songs dont compare. 'Whatever' is wayyyy better than this song
I love it when young people who think they're hip comment about a song stealing from their favorite band, but the song they're watching is at least 20 years older. Mallrats are lulzworthy in their sad delusion of how unique they think they are.
I respect Innes but I have to say I would be embarrassed to come up with a lawsuit for one miserable line. I mean, how is music ever going to improve if with one of the most basic of melodies you already feel like you own something original enough to go to court? Not to mention Innes was in the Rutles who ripped off several Beatles songs. Don't get me wrong I love the Rutles, but in my opinion "Whatever" is far above one miserable line, it's an anthem in my life, as most of early Oasis music is.
As a songwriter, you pick up things and subconsciously use them in your songs. Now probably had no idea he was copying anything, it just spawned from a little tune in his head that seemed to work.
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SecretIntent123 2 weeks ago
i love Noel Gallagher, and i quite like this too, good to play on my guitar for my friends who like Oasis....who are then bewildered when i start singing this.......oh how sweet ;-)
northernsoul55 2 weeks ago
i'm freeeeeee, to be what........oh fuck, wrong song :(
crisoliver98 1 month ago
Shit is awful. Innes should shut his mouth, Whatever is so, so much better.
Walnut8711 1 month ago
I quite like Oasis' cover of this song.
ptpt1 2 months ago 3
@ptpt1 LOL yeah it's not bad
obnokshus1 1 month ago
Neil Innes is a National Treasure: from the Bonzos, through RWT, the Rutles, Monty Python films, his radio series, through to his current tour, his wry thoughtfulness and incisiveness about the world have made me feel so much better about the world. Sweet Idiot indeed. Now if Viv Stanshall had survived as well (or at all)...
kon23uk 3 months ago
I have heard of Neil Innes (through the Rutles). I've never heard of Oasis, except in relation to their plagiarism of this song. Oasis isn't all that great/talented.
Harold6913 3 months ago
@Harold6913 Never heard of Oasis? Really? I don't like them much, but they have the 2nd highest selling album in UK history (after sgt. peppers) and the most record sales from any 90s band.
felix8989 2 months ago 4
I sung whatever, fuck da police
UkViper1 3 months ago
genius !
drstevie 3 months ago
The many bitter Oasis fans in the comments are so amusing. They seem so outraged so angry
Such sweet little idiots
pete975 3 months ago
this is pish
KokoBWary 3 months ago
ahahahahah. FUCK OFF NEIL YOU CUNT
JackMollicone94 4 months ago
And Oasis had to pay this salad royalties and give him songwriting credits for this bag of shit on Whatever? What a load of bollocks.
geflad 4 months ago
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obnokshus1 1 month ago
This song is class. Oasis fans, enjoy Whatever. It's not like they're short of money.
If you don't know who Neil Innes is before you watched this video, your opinion is a bit jaded to say the least.
Stovaa 4 months ago 3
this song is not even half of what whatver is, they dont even sound alike not even the im free to be and idiot it has differents riffs and different tunes he got away with that sue
1991lifetime23 4 months ago
the video is bloody creepy
fedemonsalve 4 months ago
What piece of shit Oasis amazing
sillyjosh99 4 months ago
chord fucking progression!!
Oasis ain't the greatest song writers but this is pure coincidence, taking away credit for what is an amazing song ( whatever - oasis) is bull shit !!!!!!
FUCK YOU
itsicho 4 months ago
Oasis>Neil innes
otafuku16 5 months ago
ONE LINE... come on... I love finding ripoffs but this is clearly coincidence.
accfan50 5 months ago
Can the fans like...not criticize this song? Sure it's not an epic written piece that includes awesome guitar riffing or drum bashing but ffs Oasis paid the royalties to this song, so end of discussion.
papoj1PVR 5 months ago 4
Noel had never heard this song before he wrote Whatever and only the opening line bares resemblance to the Oasis tune
Madferitleeds 5 months ago
Only about two bars of it are similar to "Whatever".
I'm actually surprised that Innes even won the royalties. Judge must have "preferred Blur" :)
StanPomeray 5 months ago 3
Of course the essential difference is that Neil Innes is a musician ...
desfarthing 6 months ago 4
Great memories of this programme. Ta for upping video.
orlok1960 6 months ago
Only the opening line is similar to Whatever, anyways Whatever is far better
MegaOasis2011 6 months ago
Only 1 bit is like Whatever. "How sweet it is te be an idiot",
technological6 6 months ago 15
"Whatever" was such a rip off from this song, which is in fact a parody making fun of John Lennon's music and lyrics..."Imagine" in particular. Very fitting that Oasis copied a parody of their hero.
novadrian 6 months ago 3
What the fuck, it isn't even THAT much like "Whatever" .__.
GraphoO 6 months ago
@L1v3for3v3R Indeed, we are always sharing "just opinions". Thanks for giving yours. ;]
prodrivebrasil 6 months ago
Well, so I think you have to really understand all notes of the music. But, in a time in history, I think you will always find at least one music that has similar tones to yours, isn't it?! That happens a lot in Brazil, but the musicians are happy with this. No processes involved. ;]
prodrivebrasil 6 months ago
Se foi copia ou nao, esse tal Neil deveria agradecer, pois so assim p alguem ouvir essa merda de musica 'Whatever' é muito melhor
MarioDeivid157 7 months ago
@MarioDeivid157 Hahahahaha!! É verdade. ^^
prodrivebrasil 6 months ago
@shineonoasis Then he heard it somewhere and forgot about it, and the beginning slipped through his memory into Whatever, or he's lying, because it's ridiculous to think it could be that similar by accident. If it had just been the musical portion, I could see it being a fluke, but it's the same right up into the middle of the first line of the song! Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... stealing isn't.
dewhistle 7 months ago
How sweet indeed that Oasis fans seem to be as civil and articulate as their idols.
Widmerpool99 7 months ago 3
No this Innes Bashing has to stop. It is similar to Whatever and I agree that it was a bit out suing Oasis but Neil Innes is one of the most prolific comedy music writers in history with the Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band, The Rutles and his work with Monty Python in which he was only one of two people ever credited with writing the show (except the pythons themselves) the other being the great Douglas Adams.
bfrposh 7 months ago 12
@bfrposh old people tend to go insane ...
6020e3 3 weeks ago
similar with whatever ? ROFL NOOOBS WHATEVER CANT BE COMPARED WHIT THIS FUCKING TUNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wridlerr 7 months ago
@wridlerr too right, whatever is shit
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dazseaton 7 months ago
I chuckle at the oasis defenders. We forgive the youth. I forgive you.
godforge2003 8 months ago
not a bit like Whatever, he is an idiot alright, and a bullshit artist.
liveforevermaybe 8 months ago
it sounds like noel's whatever.
misemasa 8 months ago
@shineonoasis Are you his brother?
buckskinbul 8 months ago
@shineonoasis Noel's melody and lyrics are 1000000000000000 better than this.
Jato97 8 months ago
How the F*** this song is similar to Whatever?! That is no sense!!
prodrivebrasil 8 months ago
Neil Innes-comic song genius., Noel Gallatasari-comic songs.Oashits couldn't zip The Rutles boots
buckskinbul 8 months ago 2
Neil Innes is a geneous and a wonderful man. He has always just played songs from the heart and that is so brave. I saw him at the Edinborough Festival in the early eighties singing this song ,and he was so shy and pleased when we cheered. He is worth so much more than people give him the credit for. Urban Spaceman is not all (goodas it so is).
JRBwithME 8 months ago
I can see why he wanted to sue, probably needed the money.
1996KTDW 8 months ago
he's an idiot alright. and i ain't saying he's sweet!
gabbercharles 8 months ago
Funny how Noel "borrows" music from loads of musicians, but the one time he DOESN'T, he gets sued!
calumstarkey 8 months ago
how sweeeeet it is when oasis turn this piece of shit into a fine piece of music worth listening to
jonorolo1 8 months ago
Noel Gallagher = overrated cunt. Most of the comments here = whiney fanboy crybabies
acphenom 8 months ago 3
what's this guy complaining about? it's not like his whole song was ripped.
heyyylyla 8 months ago
Fuck me you bloody lot you might as well say he ripped off John Lennon's Imagine with the piano parts and then stand him against the wall and shoot him.
chrishove123 9 months ago
@chrishove123 no he ripped that bit for dont look back in anger
truemansparks 8 months ago
@chrishove123 You mean he did not rip off the beetles? Mind they were a bunch of git's as well. Imagine no possessions. All right if you are sat at you're Steinway in you're Berkshire mansion with a psychedelic Rolls Rice parked outside.
drbobbeattie 8 months ago
Apart from the one line I'm not hearing any other similarities in this shit song.
TurbaTaT 9 months ago
This guy is a dick. Nearly every song that comes out could be sued by someone for having at least one bar that sounds similar to a bar in their song. No integrity at all, weird looking talentless douche bag.
zebbedi 9 months ago
@zebbedi when whatever came out came out, this guy might have been down on his look and losing all his money. And the melody of the parts "How sweet to be an idiot" and "I'm free to be whatever I" do sound similar. But yeah Whatever is a better song, and I don't think it's something to sue over. If noel had ripped off the entire song then ok, but it was just that part. and how do you know this guy's talentless. how do you measure talent anyway?
procrastinator300 8 months ago
@procrastinator300 Measuring talent is subjective. It was my opinion, I can't corroborate it with any evidence that can't be repudiated with more subjective sentiment. This part of my comment was a display of the emotion I feel about his actions, rather than any empirical science.The important part of what I said you have agreed with. It was an absolute crime that he was able to sue and fortunate for him that he proceeded with legal action at a time when musical copyright law was in a mess.
zebbedi 8 months ago
@zebbedi what do you mean musical copyright law was in a mess? just out of curiosity I'm not disagreeing with you
procrastinator300 8 months ago
@procrastinator300 During the early to mid 90's music copyright lawsuits were rife. Sampling was becoming ubiquitous and the legal system wasn't sure how to handle these situations. With a lack of proper guiding legislation in place some decisions were made hastily and in my opinion unfairly. This being an example.
zebbedi 8 months ago
@zebbedi oh yeah huh also the "Newton v. Diamond" case with the Beastie Boys was a major one in terms of sampling. But don't you still think that Neil Innes should still receive writing credits for this song. I mean the melodies do sound similar. The rest of the song does not and whatever is better, but the melody is similar
procrastinator300 8 months ago
@zebbedi dude you're right, I just found two other examples, youve prolly heard of them. The Verve released Bitter Sweet Symphony and a lawsuit caused complete composer rights to go to Keith Richards/Mick Jagger even though the lyrics and some of the music were original. Also Deconstructing Beck was an album released in 1998 of music completely made from samples of Beck's music that set off a legal battle. And it posed a challenge to the music industry bcuz Beck's music often uses sampled music
procrastinator300 8 months ago
Boooooo he shouldn't have sued. And this is the man that did The Rutles. Ironic isn't just a song by Alanis Morissette.
likearollingstone257 9 months ago
How the fuck Innes managed to sue Oasis for plagiarism over this is beyond me. Innes must've been sucking the judge off.
rbhu7 10 months ago
How pissed would you be if some Manc stole your song and made millions off of it? I love Oasis, but Noel has a habit of taking the most catchy bits of older songs and reworking it into the major parts of his songs.
kodiaksioux 10 months ago 2
@shineonoasis do you really believe that? Maybe he just subconsciously registered it - and wrote a similar tune - that does happen.
AlfieG3 10 months ago
I don't hear what he stole. A chord change or two? It's not as if it was an original sequence when Neil put it together.
fasteddyuk 10 months ago
Sounds more like "Maybe I'm Amazed" at the begining!! How this sounds like "Whatever" I don't know,it probably has a basic chord structure,as do many songs,the vocal melody is nothing like,or the orchestration!
GBPaddling 10 months ago
@GBPaddling Now that you mention it, I hear that too. Must come from writing for the Rutles.
Miracle490d 10 months ago
@GBPaddling I'm sure I hear something else of the Beatles in that middle8, but I'm not a pro to identify it off hand. Does anyone else hear something there?
Miracle490d 10 months ago
well done to neil for successfully sueing .there.s influence and then there is just plain stealing
hoobool 10 months ago
Neil Innes is on a world tour. You can see the schedule and buy tickets from his website. I have mine. I wonder whether Liam will turn up?
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AndyCWilson 10 months ago
Everyone rips everyone else off. What's new?
AndyCWilson 10 months ago
Oasis fans r tits. Neil Is a proper artist. Musician,songwrighter and comedian. He's more brains in his balls dan dem manc teats have between em. As for their fans! D obviously dnt know talent. Otherwise d wudn b fans.dnt be ignorant n check neil out bfor ya dis em.
MrChewbacca1978 10 months ago 3
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@MrChewbacca1978 Are you kidding? This Neil Innes is a talentless nobody.
zebbedi 9 months ago
@zebbedi Bull shit... Look up the rutles... That's Neil's work right there... Listen to that and see the lies you speak:P
TheLonersManual 9 months ago
who is this idiot? I'm going back to listen to whatever..
vincecover 10 months ago
@shineonoasis it's a shame he couldn't prove that then, or else he wouldn't have lost the money for it.
CorinWright 11 months ago
Whatever is a great tune, but it's clear Oasis ripped off the melody of this song - the first few lines are melodically identical to Whatever.
grimTales1 11 months ago 2
this is shit compared to whatever
meyy33 11 months ago
Another possible Oasis rip on an obscure track: Catherine Cares by Pete Ham
sebben76 11 months ago
This song has nothing on Whatever in my opinion, and if Noel did nick the first few lines, I'm glad he did, Whatever is a great tune.
danandwade 11 months ago
this is very little like whatever, for him to consider sueing Noel Gallagher is obviously just jealousy of Oasis. this song is absolute shite
chalum30 1 year ago
@chalum30 I find it hilarious to say that Neil Innes, infinitely more talented than any member of Oasis times ten, would be jealous of them. And yes, it does sound like Whatever. It sounds EXACTLY like Whatever in the chorus.
joethulhuz 11 months ago
@joethulhuz explain why if neil innis so so much infinatly more talented the any member of oasis, oasis have sold around 70million albums and singles, and this guy, well hasnt :L
chalum30 11 months ago
@chalum30 Well of course Oasis has sold more. Neil Innes is relatively obscure. But Neil Innes is ORIGINAL. Nothing he does sounds like anything else (except the Rutles music, which is, of course, supposed to sound like the Beatles), wheras you can trace practically anything Oasis does back to other people who originated it. Oasis has no inovation. Neil Innes does.
joethulhuz 11 months ago
@joethulhuz ok, if your gonna go down that road explain then why Noel claimed to of been suprised when Innes sued him, but admitted 'borrowing' other riffs and stuff from other bands? why wud he only deny using parts of this song instead of admitting it like all the others?
chalum30 11 months ago
@chalum30 Simple. Because he was being sued. Of course he'd deny the one that was actually suing him. I don't blame him. I'd do the same thing if I were sued for something (though I've never plagiarized anything).
joethulhuz 11 months ago
@joethulhuz i've decided i can no longer be arsed for this argument, you have your views i have mine :) im not admitting your right though :L
chalum30 11 months ago
@GallagherWellerBrown same heree!:L
Supersoniiic07 1 year ago
Has anyone not come on here to check how similar it is to Whatever? Cos I feckin' did!
GallagherWellerBrown 1 year ago 147
@GallagherWellerBrown Idid aswel indeed :P I read ''Neil succesfully sued Oasis'' but yea in my eyes its not that similar.
Jura88 10 months ago
@Jura88 I never heard either song before, but I know that George Harrison was successfully sued for My Sweet Lord by the writer of He's So Fine, and I don't think that was right either. Win or loose seems to be ruled by the Judge's Opinion right or wrong. It has little to do with evidence.
Miracle490d 10 months ago
@Miracle490d great song btw, My sweet lord is a nice one, and just listenned to He's so fine, and if you listen to it good, it sounds really simular to My sweet lord tho,
Jura88 10 months ago
@Miracle490d He's so fine is very similar to my sweet lord. I love George and hate to admit it but it is very similar. This song is nothing like Whatever.
zebbedi 9 months ago
@zebbedi Yep, George got sued for that to and lost. It was found that he unintentionally copied it and had to pay royalties as well as give the rights to his song over to the group... But, years later he bought the rights to both songs anyway. :)
TheLonersManual 9 months ago
introduction sounds like yellow submarine sandwhich!
corgi1998 1 year ago
This guy should get fuck all for this shite song. Lyrics are terrible and only the start is like Whatever.
Bywalec67 1 year ago
@shineonoasis OK whatever (Ha, see what I did there)!
bobsonofbob 1 year ago
It's a load of rubbish. Apart from one line that sounds vaguely similar from a note point of view, nothing else is even remotely close.
Funny to hear people accusing Oasis of plagiarism, but that's what you get when you write the same kind of rock tunes better than most bands have done before and you're successful at it. People are stretching rather too much because of what they heard from someone. Some Might Say ripped from Imagine? Please.... That's the worst of the lot.
segedunum 1 year ago
Wow whatever, no lo puedo creer :S En algo se tenia qe inspirar noel..
thesupernovaa 1 year ago
You know, seriously:
Intro to "Some Might Say was ripped off from Imagine.
Into to "I'm outta time" was ripped off from Jealous Guy
Hello was ripped off from a Gary Glitter song
Step Out was ripped off from Stevie Wonder
A band may go a career with one plagiarism claim. Galalchers had about 10.
He quite obviously listens to obscure-ish music, and then rips off the bits he likes for his songs
MrCeej9999 1 year ago
@MrCeej9999 You are such a tool.
Anyway this sounds like a Billy Joel song, She's Got A Way About Her then when it gets upbeat it sounds like The Beatles.
Even if Noel took from this, he did fucking wonders as this is shit and sounds copied itself.
DavieSilva23 1 year ago
@MrCeej9999
some might say sounds nothing like Imagine
TheMrbollox 1 year ago
@shineonoasis
Haha, yeah, right!? Gallachers ripped off so many riffs, they can't all be coincidence!
MrCeej9999 1 year ago
you guys are all idiots...
bats220 1 year ago
HaMM3rMj Don't pass me by?
MrGingerlenny 1 year ago
"As much imagination as a caravan site". Clearly Oasis took this line to heart.
BggProductions 1 year ago 9
1:45 - 1:52 a Beatles part song???, but I can´t remember wich one. Although i´m almost sure that is.
HaMM3rMJ 1 year ago
Can some of the punters who are critical and pouring scorn on Oasis please enlighten me to their musical tastes and favoured bands?
grayhend 1 year ago 2
oasis may have stolen some of this song but oasis made it...better. and thats all that matters.
calebre 1 year ago
Ii can hear the sesame Street tune in this song at 1:40. Talk about cheeek.
ClassicVideos80s 1 year ago
lol this is wank, noel gallagher should demand money off this guy, not the other way around
mattyk113 1 year ago
@mattyk113
Gallacher's currently paying 3 different artists royalties for ripping off their songs.
And that's just the ones that beat him in court
MrCeej9999 1 year ago
'Whatever' isn't on the 'Stop the Clocks' Best Of either, probably cos Noel didn't want to be hit with a massive legal bill. 'Step Out' was pulled from "morning Glory' cos it totally rips off Stevie Wonder's 'Uptight', crucially they got the letter from the lawyers before the album came out though.
richievegas01 1 year ago
anyone have the phone number for Oasis? You see i've written this shit song the other day and i want to make it into a brilliant one........
oasistouringvan 1 year ago
@joethulhuz If you're protecting good music you should probably start protecting Oasis. This is your ego talking.
izvunzemen 1 year ago
@izvunzemen Let me rephrase it, then: I'm protecting good ORIGINAL music. There, an exception has been made for Oasis.
joethulhuz 1 year ago
@joethulhuz You know that Oasis released "whatever" only as a single right ? It was never on an album ? Tell your ego to shut the fuck up.
izvunzemen 1 year ago
@izvunzemen I know it was a non-album single. That has nothing to do with anything. Neither does my ego. This isn't about me and personal attacks will not help your case.
joethulhuz 1 year ago
*sniff* such a happy song.
masticina 1 year ago
@joethulhuz Ur just jealous u never thought of it first!!
awilkied 1 year ago
@awilkied Thought of this melody or ripping it off? The melody, sure, because it's great. But ripping it off, like Oasis did? Not at all. Just because a melody is good doesn't mean you should steal it. Someone really needs to tell Oasis that.
joethulhuz 1 year ago
@joethulhuz It's not stolen. Stop being so obvious at failing by protecting something no one really cares about. It's only the first line like the most thumb up'ed comment. Shut up. Live forever.
izvunzemen 1 year ago
@izvunzemen It's a recurring melody throughout the song. The song is copyrighted and it's much more then five consecutive notes. It's called copyright infringement and it's illegal. Considered stealing, even. I'm protecting good music, not something no one cares about, and even if it wasn't good, I obviously care about it, so your statement is still untrue. Good day.
joethulhuz 1 year ago
@joethulhuz : Watch Noel Gallagher interviews and you will realise he admits that he always wrote songs which borrowed elements from all the big guns. And you think The Beatles, Rolling Stones, The Jam etc didn't do exactly the same? Whatever is one song Noel did not intentionally borrow from, seriously, some unknown song by some parody artist? Noel's an honest guy.
PredatorFilmsInc 1 year ago
@PredatorFilmsInc The Rolling Stones? Maybe. The Jam? Honestly, I've never heard of them. The Beatles? Two incidents: Opening lines in the songs "Come Together" and "Something" that were tribute rather than ripoff.
Oasis? EVERY SONG. I give credit to the guy for admitting it but that doesn't make me like the operation he's running. And Neil Innes is by no means unknown, and not just a parody artist (though that is mostly what he does). I don't care if it was intentional, it's still a ripoff.
joethulhuz 1 year ago
@joethulhuz : Whatever "ripping off" a couple of notes from this song was unintentional, Whatever is an epic song, this song is lame. The Beatles, especially the early Beatles, drew heavily from the rock 'n' rollers from the 50's, such as Chuck Berry, Little Richard and Buddy Holly.
PredatorFilmsInc 1 year ago
@PredatorFilmsInc In style - not in actual chord progression or anything related. Whatever isn't even a good song ignoring the rip off. How Sweet to be an Idiot is a tongue-in-cheek parody of society. I'll admit Noel Gallagher had a nice voice but the song lacks variety and doesn't even make good use of his voice, as some Oasis songs do. But you'll never change your opinion. You're in love with a rip off - not just of this song - and you'll never admit it. So - how sweet to be an idiot like you.
joethulhuz 1 year ago
@joethulhuz : Lmao cool, but yeah, Noel don't sing on that song, Liam does.
PredatorFilmsInc 1 year ago
@PredatorFilmsInc Ah, alright. Sorry, I don't know all the names of the people behind Oasis or what they look like, much less what they sound like.
joethulhuz 1 year ago
@joethulhuz read your argument with the oasis-fan, and I salute you my friend! I dont belive they had never heard the song, they must have seen some python in their lifes, being brittish and all, and why not hollywood bowl? stupid twats, they cant get away with it just because neil isent as famous as lets say, lennon/mccartney, who they also was ripping off.
kyrastube 1 year ago
@kyrastube
I'd give Gallacher the benefit of the doubt, if he didn't go on to blatantly rip off about 5 other tracks afterwards as well.
Ever heard "step out tonight"? I don't know how he had the nerve to record that one
MrCeej9999 1 year ago
@MrCeej9999
step out was never even on any album.
TheMrbollox 1 year ago
Screw the whole Oasis thing. Neil Innes' work is the epitome of brilliance. Enough said.
gracex1227 1 year ago
Shame on you Innes! Total coincidence and yet you demand royalties and a writing credit for a song you couldn't have possibly inspired and were in no way responsible for. You have sullied my memories of Puddle Lane forever! :-( Whatever!
andyytoonlives 1 year ago
Remember, oasis also ripped off the New Seekers!
jayrox40 1 year ago
@dennisnedry haha, "by law"? you know the record-companies whent to court and they had to add HIS name for writing-credits?
and no, its not better. not in any way. neil has both humor and dept, they are just stuck-up brats who thinks they are beatles
kyrastube 1 year ago
@kyrastube
You must be an idiot. Sweet to be an idiot? Why do you think the Oasis song is so much popular? Ofcourse cause It connects with people much more then this one. Oasis sing truth and wisdom and you are stupid or have a bad image of them in your head.
dabbiii 1 year ago
@dennisnedry no I havent, and that just prooves they smoke to much weed
kyrastube 1 year ago
@dennisnedry how can you rip something off that havent happened yet? hell, they werent even BORN when he wrote this song.
kyrastube 1 year ago
@dennisnedry haha, how dim can you get. this song was written in the 60s... it was oasis ripping him off!
kyrastube 1 year ago
@kyrastube
You probably don't know anything about music. The two first tones in the Chorus are the same. Do you know how many songs are all in the same tones so this is nothing compared to that.
Everyband has made songs that has the same tones of some old hit songs but few artist charge which is stupid because you can't own tones.
There are probably more songs that have C and D or something in the chorus and about same tempo.
And how can one smoke too much weed? : d jk ;)
dabbiii 1 year ago
nice song, but oasis's one is much better!!
DomocaiG 1 year ago
This guy wrote originally this song, but Noel Gallagher wrote it better.
That's why I don't know who Neil Innes is, and why Noel Gallagher is now millionaire.
Reptilians88 1 year ago
@Reptilians88 You know I never saw that before but it damn straight is! Must be part of the Beatles link :)
booziesuzie 1 year ago
kk that one line 'how sweet to be an idiot' is similar to 'Im free to be Whatever I' but that is all, the songs dont compare. 'Whatever' is wayyyy better than this song
TheBarpster 1 year ago
FUCK OASIS GAY
Angeldsf7 1 year ago
Beautiful.....and Yes ..It Is Sweet......Thank You for Posting.
TheDreamingTiger62 1 year ago
I love it when young people who think they're hip comment about a song stealing from their favorite band, but the song they're watching is at least 20 years older. Mallrats are lulzworthy in their sad delusion of how unique they think they are.
p717 1 year ago
@dennisnedry
lol more like the other way around.
jellyboy123 1 year ago
has everyone just watched that other video and saw this in the corner
jimbob6421a 1 year ago
whatever oasis wtf?
paramesio 1 year ago
woah fucking hell haha Whatever (oasis) is fucking identicle to this
lyrics to this are bollocks though
oasis4ever92 1 year ago
this is in the 1982s "Monty Python - Live At The HollyWood Bowl"
L3viathan2142 1 year ago
@L3viathan2142 Yeah, but best version is on Live at Drury Lane. Check it out.
captaingoatbeard7 1 year ago
I respect Innes but I have to say I would be embarrassed to come up with a lawsuit for one miserable line. I mean, how is music ever going to improve if with one of the most basic of melodies you already feel like you own something original enough to go to court? Not to mention Innes was in the Rutles who ripped off several Beatles songs. Don't get me wrong I love the Rutles, but in my opinion "Whatever" is far above one miserable line, it's an anthem in my life, as most of early Oasis music is.
scotland7yard 1 year ago
@scotland7yard
The Rutles was a spoof not a 'rip-off'. Surely that's obvious?
ScreaminJames 1 year ago
@ScreaminJames Of course I know that. But what difference does it make to my point then??
scotland7yard 1 year ago
Now Neil Innes becomes one of the authors of Oasis' Whatever.
Neil Innes is a composer as good as Ray Davis i think.
YoungBelaLugosi 1 year ago
As a songwriter, you pick up things and subconsciously use them in your songs. Now probably had no idea he was copying anything, it just spawned from a little tune in his head that seemed to work.
Emporius 1 year ago
that's retarded. this song sounds nothing like whatever.... fucking ridiculous.
seaofis 1 year ago
@seaofis If you were familar with Monty Python, you would understand the comedy in the song! Don't be such a Sour Puss..
GO listen to the Archies if this is too much for you!!
mikeUNC1 1 year ago
Noel Gallagher was sewed for ' Stealin ' this song when he wrote whatever long before this song
gizmo4123 1 year ago
@gizmo4123 Lol nice joke.
david181993 1 year ago
@david181993 It wasnt a joke....
gizmo4123 1 year ago
@gizmo4123 So noel gallagher wrote whatever before he was even 7? Yea, sounds plausible...
(sarcasm in case you didn't realise)
david181993 1 year ago
@david181993 No noel gallagher wrote Whatever before he even heard this song he didnt know about it watch the video aobut it on youtube
gizmo4123 1 year ago