Михаи́л (Ми́ша) Сау́лович Э́льман; January 20, 1891, Talnoye, Kiev Governorate, Russian Empire – April 5, 1967, ........What makes him or the other Russian (Jews) playing/style different and wonderful? My thought is that this is the result of what the teachers of the time taught .Check out Great Masters of the Violin by my teacher, Boris Schwarz.....:)
Everytime i hear Elman I feel his bow and finger knowledge is fine .The sentiment here is so varying here I easily forget Kreisler.More ambience here too.Only Heifetz could give this much perfection but emotionally he didn't over do it .Zimbalist I wanna hear - just his reputation. Elman is musical magic .
grande finesse...comme s'il n'y avait pas d'archet...mais le violon qui respire, soupire,pleure, oh !!!
J'aime entendre avec Pellman et Kreisler et là j'avoue...ma surprise admirative pour Mischa Elman...mais à chacun sa façon de jouer et donner et nous de sentir....
A DREAM. The music flows all the way in a continuous soft wave. Even the passion in the middle part is soft and discrete. The sound is so smooth throughout. it flows continuously all the piece. No sudden transition anywhere, Better than even Kreisler.
This is by far not the best rendition of this piece. Hell this isn't even the best rendition of this piece on youtube. I'm not detracting from it. It's good, I just don't see it as a cut above
Many thanks rareviolintreasures for this. "Chacun a son gout" I guess. I find this to be so much more beautiful than any other. Purity of tone, a ravishing sound, a great ear and a musicality that is rare, rare, rare.
By the way, his older 78 recording is also transcendent.
This is fantastic! Thanks for posting! Elman and others born before WW1 - Kreisler, Hassid, Milstein, Heifetz - attack the tone right at the beginning, so it is immediately fully present. This preserves the musical line. In contrast, many younger string players let the sound start slowly on long notes, gradually adding volume and vibrato (check the YouTube posts of this piece by Yo Yo Ma or Sarah Chang). It's a kind of lurching, and it disrupts the musical line. What accounts for this change?
You are absolutely correct. The exact same change has also occurred in the world of classical singing. Today's singers lurch from notes without vibrato to those with too much. The affect is discomforting to the soul. Older singers gave equal import to all notes creating a more even and satisfying affect. While Elman plays wonderfully here I prefer an earlier version he made during the 1920s.
absolutely, the vibrato is overkilled by many modern soloists. whereas as you say those such as kreisler,hassid (whihc is my fav) et al keep it consistent
Thanks for precious and rare video! But what a pity that famous "Elman's sound" is not fully reflected here." Vynil" does it much better. Still thanks again!
Thank you for uploading it. Elman speak with his instrument and his phrasing is beautifull. This gives me much more than other versions on youtube. No name.
Elman has always been my favorite. I found an old 78rpm at a junk sale of Elman recording the Thais Meditation from when he was really young, and it's just the most beautiful violin recording I have ever heard. Sounds very close to this recording, though, but with maybe a bit more intensity. There's just nothing like the way he played.
It is so sad that most of Elman's recordings were made later in his career, after his artistry was declining. In his heyday he was sublime.
Im sorry if you find this offensive but I have to ask. Is it possible that you can upload your collection as a torrent? That will make it very easy for people like me, 'old school violinists' to acquire these wonderful lost recordings. One thing that made me like torrents was that I found the Heifetz Collection, all 47 volumes uploaded onto the internet. Thanks!
While I've never been a fan of Elman's, I find his playing strangely compelling. Perhaps it's the nostalgia of listening to something that once was and will never return.
I've not heard this violinist before. What a pleasure to hear him now.
ilyriamoon 5 months ago
es maravilloso!
elgourmetdelamarina 11 months ago
MERAVIGLIOSO E RARO!!!!!! Bellissimo canale, GRAZIE PER QUESTA RARA MUSICA....Valerio Ceste : valerik88ify...CIAO.
valerik88ify 1 year ago
Magnificent. A most sympathetic rendition in my opinion. Many thanks for posting and Best Wishes.
Ivanhoe2 1 year ago
Михаи́л (Ми́ша) Сау́лович Э́льман; January 20, 1891, Talnoye, Kiev Governorate, Russian Empire – April 5, 1967, ........What makes him or the other Russian (Jews) playing/style different and wonderful? My thought is that this is the result of what the teachers of the time taught .Check out Great Masters of the Violin by my teacher, Boris Schwarz.....:)
outoftunefiddler 1 year ago
Always loved this piece. Wonderful to hear it played by an old violinst (rather than one of the current overproduced ones). Thanks for the upload!
TheJmills39 1 year ago
rareviolin...thank you so much...love this
politicopol 1 year ago
Everytime i hear Elman I feel his bow and finger knowledge is fine .The sentiment here is so varying here I easily forget Kreisler.More ambience here too.Only Heifetz could give this much perfection but emotionally he didn't over do it .Zimbalist I wanna hear - just his reputation. Elman is musical magic .
lovesGenet 1 year ago
I grew up listening to this guy's records
StringChannel 1 year ago
Marvelous, let's have more rareviolintreasures please. I think the vibrato is sublime, just like the rest of it.
I have only been playing, listening and learning for 40 years though.
100nemesis100 2 years ago
Could not agree more !
we are so lucky to hear him.
mingte3 2 years ago
this is beeeeeeeuuutiful. but seriously, the vibrato is way overdone.
crashcatfish 2 years ago
grande finesse...comme s'il n'y avait pas d'archet...mais le violon qui respire, soupire,pleure, oh !!!
J'aime entendre avec Pellman et Kreisler et là j'avoue...ma surprise admirative pour Mischa Elman...mais à chacun sa façon de jouer et donner et nous de sentir....
543693The 2 years ago
Thank you for sharing.
khira07 2 years ago
Jascha Heifetz es mi músico preferido en éste instrumento pero está muy bueno!!!
cristianstoppa2003 2 years ago
A DREAM. The music flows all the way in a continuous soft wave. Even the passion in the middle part is soft and discrete. The sound is so smooth throughout. it flows continuously all the piece. No sudden transition anywhere, Better than even Kreisler.
karmaximal 2 years ago 6
@karmaximal Better than Kreisler! hmmmm.
SugarTomAppleRoger 1 year ago
This is by far not the best rendition of this piece. Hell this isn't even the best rendition of this piece on youtube. I'm not detracting from it. It's good, I just don't see it as a cut above
cdavisfour 2 years ago
cdavisfour. I think this is a great version personally. It may not be the "best" - who can know? To, me, it is not far away from being the best.
swanningaround 2 years ago
Many thanks rareviolintreasures for this. "Chacun a son gout" I guess. I find this to be so much more beautiful than any other. Purity of tone, a ravishing sound, a great ear and a musicality that is rare, rare, rare.
By the way, his older 78 recording is also transcendent.
ipmoic 2 years ago 3
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i know this old guy! pornstar!~
BLACKVIGOUR 2 years ago
This is fantastic! Thanks for posting! Elman and others born before WW1 - Kreisler, Hassid, Milstein, Heifetz - attack the tone right at the beginning, so it is immediately fully present. This preserves the musical line. In contrast, many younger string players let the sound start slowly on long notes, gradually adding volume and vibrato (check the YouTube posts of this piece by Yo Yo Ma or Sarah Chang). It's a kind of lurching, and it disrupts the musical line. What accounts for this change?
123mortimer456 2 years ago 10
You are absolutely correct. The exact same change has also occurred in the world of classical singing. Today's singers lurch from notes without vibrato to those with too much. The affect is discomforting to the soul. Older singers gave equal import to all notes creating a more even and satisfying affect. While Elman plays wonderfully here I prefer an earlier version he made during the 1920s.
inter215 2 years ago 4
absolutely, the vibrato is overkilled by many modern soloists. whereas as you say those such as kreisler,hassid (whihc is my fav) et al keep it consistent
themusicdr 2 years ago
it does hardly not depent of the kind of violin he plays!
its his gift; a teacher can learn technique; musical knowledge;
the sound(beside correct bow technique!!!) in some way- nobody can learn;
I think Elman can not discribe why he plays so beautiful; that`'s gift!!
geige13 3 years ago 3
Thanks for precious and rare video! But what a pity that famous "Elman's sound" is not fully reflected here." Vynil" does it much better. Still thanks again!
da19lila38 3 years ago
Thank you for uploading it. Elman speak with his instrument and his phrasing is beautifull. This gives me much more than other versions on youtube. No name.
staffanovitj 3 years ago 2
Elman has always been my favorite. I found an old 78rpm at a junk sale of Elman recording the Thais Meditation from when he was really young, and it's just the most beautiful violin recording I have ever heard. Sounds very close to this recording, though, but with maybe a bit more intensity. There's just nothing like the way he played.
It is so sad that most of Elman's recordings were made later in his career, after his artistry was declining. In his heyday he was sublime.
citizenjosefk 3 years ago 4
Im sorry if you find this offensive but I have to ask. Is it possible that you can upload your collection as a torrent? That will make it very easy for people like me, 'old school violinists' to acquire these wonderful lost recordings. One thing that made me like torrents was that I found the Heifetz Collection, all 47 volumes uploaded onto the internet. Thanks!
mrausar 3 years ago
i dont know what that is but im willing to partcipate if you tell me how
rareviolintreasures 3 years ago
just wonderful
megahedviolin 3 years ago
I am curious as to what type (specific) of violin did Mischa Elman play?
tHEnOOSEsWING 3 years ago
qood question, im not sure
that may be a better question for violinist (dot) com
rareviolintreasures 3 years ago
just looked at the liner notes of this cd it says he played the "recamier" stradivarius also known as Madame Recamier of 1717
i looked elsewhere and something said he owned 3 strads:
ex-Joachim (1907)
ex-Recamier (1717) -a wedding gift of his wife
ex-Samazeuilh (1735)
rareviolintreasures 3 years ago
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birdandthe 1 year ago
@birdandthe ...The guy just asked a question. Jeez :I
MissCartoonist 10 months ago
While I've never been a fan of Elman's, I find his playing strangely compelling. Perhaps it's the nostalgia of listening to something that once was and will never return.
legman36 3 years ago
i would have to agree ive never heard anyone sound like that and i never will, very unique
rareviolintreasures 3 years ago
@legman36
True, this was something that once was and never will return.
See my comment for Beethoven's minuet by Elman.
poslednieje 1 year ago