The secret life of water...vortex energy

[lesleywills1]

I think links very nicely into the heart is not a pump, but a holding chamber,, the vortex theory is really interesting. Our blood vessels act in the same way I presume

[m3sca1]

@lesleywills1 thanx for commenting-yes Schauberger said the heart is not a pump-it is pumped!

And if you think about all the peristalsis action of the veins,well you get a lot of pressure from that action.

The heart is muscle tissue tho,and i tend think that is both the viens and the heart working together in unison.

Makes sense,cos when blood vessels are clogged up the person is at risk of heart attack because the heart has to do all the work that viens should be doing...

[70pda]

anyone tried___ w w w  diymagneticmotor com ?

[PisoMornar]

so... :/ what does this mean?

[ShinigamiDijanic]

wow... amazing.... now that is cool but not groundbreaking folks. its a whirlpool i get one whenever i pull my bathtub drain. how about we try to act like grownups and focus on something productive like cold fusion, yeah? I'm sorry if i sound like "the man" but put on your big girl panties there are actual problems other than whirligigs.

[m3sca1]

@ShinigamiDijanic lol you dont sound like "the man" you just sound like a wanker-btw you totally missed what happened since all you see is whirligigs...ice wont sink under normal circumstances,the change in temperature is key to the strength of the water and spiral technology is something mankind needs to take more notice of if we are to keep rivers and water supplies healthy without adding chemicals...spiral technology can solve alot of our problems,and im workin on cold fusion... wbu?

[Mackan999]

I've done the same experiment. (In smaller scale though) but it is intressting that if you just stir water around (centrifugal power) the bubbels and other material drags to the center. It should be the other way around. The bubbles should be drawn away from the center.

[m3sca1]

@Mackan999 thankyou for your contribution.it does seem counter intuitive that things move to the center

[Saurimat]

@m3sca1 Sorry for disturbing but it everything but counter intuitive if you think about what that vortex does. It just creates flow on the surface to fill up the empty space in the center. And looking at the centrifugal power also just think about what it does! It just drags the material with the highest density / weight out. So as long as the things you throw in the water have a lower density as the water itself they just get drawn to the center.

Physics is incredible isn´t it ;)

[victortarre]

nice cgi, please contact med, i wanna sign you!!

[m3sca1]

@victortarre hahaha you guys are priceless-thinking i got the skills to make CGI when i filmed it straight up in my shed-only edit was in windows movie maker-seriously one of you fuktards need to get a magnetic stirrer and some ice cubes and repeat the experiment-TROLL =P

[pmkfa]

STILL CGI, NO DOUBT ON MY MIND AFTER DIGESTING THIS CLIP FOR A FEW MONTHS. I T I S C G I !!!!

[m3sca1]

@pmkfa go away troll-its real physics

[Fons1958]

How come nobody made a aircraft (UFO) after the nazi's? There is no working motor to be found - as far as I know? Why is that?

[chipsnyper06]

@Fons1958 why the fuck do you think? If they were to let the public know about all of the hidden technology that exists, there would be a huge paradigm shift. The oil and energy companies that control us now wouldn't mean shit. The free energy revolution is happening now.

[pjharro]

CGI?? why would he bother, its spinning water... my god that's soooo amazing (add heavy sarcasim)

Stick your hand in a tub and swish it around and you too can see the amazing vortex miracle

[longshotnl]

Can the vortex generate enough power to pump the water back up?

[m3sca1]

@longshotnl according to the work of victor schauberger the contraptions he built generated more power in than out, but as im sure you are aware that defies the accepted theory of the laws of thermodynamics.

[seansalvador1]

@longshotnl

Of course it doesn't

[iamhuman1987]

i enjoyed your video. what book is that you're reading?

[m3sca1]

@iamhuman1987 thanx for your comment,lately i have had some say that i used CGI to make this video and when i asked them which bit they just kept blowing hot air,and since i called their credentials as experts into question they stopped responding...perhaps they really were trying to discredit the work Schauberger.

[iamhuman1987]

@m3sca1 to be honest, i work with computer graphics all day and not a bit of this video appears edited. i suppose some people do not enjoy having their narrow mechanistic worldview threatened. :)

i will look for that book, thank you!

[m3sca1]

@iamhuman1987 your welcome and thanx for the support =)

[m3sca1]

@iamhuman1987 the book is...

the energy evolution.

harnessing free energy from nature.

Victor Schauberger,

translated and edited by Callum Coats

vol 4 of eco-technology series.

published by

gateway

[mathult]

I hear you victortarre, no way thats not cgi!

[m3sca1]

@mathult i checked your page-and from your recent comments i see that apparently everything you watch is CGI-should have called yourself the "isaythatscgiguy".

tell me exactly what do you think is fake in my video?

if you did any research on the subject or even tried the experiment yourself,you would find the same physics is at work here that happens everytime the plug is pulled in the bath.

[pmkfa]

@m3sca1 Do you think you could upload a version without the cuts? Or you don't have that rendered out? I wish we had more material. Damn I'm convinced man, If I was not knee deep into the CGI industry I would've swallowed it! Keep doing what you're doing!

[m3sca1]

@pmkfa all the previous files are gone-but i can re-do the experiment.

you still seem to think i used some CGI software,on what was a simple shoot,edited in windows moviemaker.

is there some way to video it to prove it is not CGI so you guys stop tripping?

[pmkfa]

@m3sca1 without the original files I must assume you've used the Maya Physiks 2.5 (or higher) plug-in to CGI it. Regarding the tracking I honestly have no idea. Cheers for taking the time man! I wish I one day can do stuff this tight, I'm a great viewer but not yet a very skilled animator, something you obviously are. Cheers!

[m3sca1]

@pmkfa you do realise that if i could do CGI at all let alone as good as you say that i would be working for some film maker instead of busting my arse labouring.

im banging my head against a brick wall trying to get you to realise that its real physics,and my paranoia is making me think that you wish to discredit the work of Victor Schauberger,more than your claims of CGI knowledge.

i question your credentials and im calling you out -what have you done that makes you an expert?

...

[m3sca1]

...because if you were an expert you would have some suggestion to my previous question about videoing in such a way to disprove the use of CGI!

[victortarre]

haha, obvious thats cgi!! you're not fooling me m3sca1, most def cgi

[m3sca1]

@victortarre No really now who is the fool if you think i would waste my time with cgi software trying to show you something that is a simple demonstration with vortexes in a bench test with cold water a toothpick,some ice cubes and a stirrer?

this is real physics.

[pmkfa]

@victortarre I'm not 100% sure but that look like a Maya-plugin I used some years ago. Def CGI, no doubt on my mind.

[victortarre]

@pmkfa u know it, most def cgi!! ive seen this stuff by my friend who works in postproduction and 3d-studio. difficult to tell though because of the rough edit and vhs-style photo. but no doubt in my mind thats CGI!

[pmkfa]

@victortarre Yeah, it's hard to see if it's CGI when the image quality is reduced like that. I mean you might trick 99% of the viewers, but people in the CGI community will still see it. @m3sca1 what kind of tracking did you use? 3D tracking or 2D with manual Z-axis compensation??

[m3sca1]

@pmkfa no tracking-not cgi-it really happens-you guys retarded or what?

stop being a troll and read some of victor schauberger's work.

the core of the vortex is more dense than at the walls of the tube,the ice sinks because the pressure below the ice cube is lower than above it.

like a plane wing gets lift only the process is upside down.

[pmkfa]

@pmkfa @victortarre I don't know your opinion, but how do you think it's made? I wish it could've been a HD CGI rendering, the low-fi encoding is confusing but I would def say Maya. Been watching the clip easily 50 times now, clipnabbing it as a MP4 and even watching it frame by frame. @m3sca1 I must say you really did a good job covering it up, it's really seamless!

[azulvendas]

Yes, I have the book with the details, j] oe cell is through the functioning of the orgone energy, know where I can find a pdf on this vortex of water?

[azulvendas]

hello friend this seems to be the same system of joe cell, you know where can I find information?

[m3sca1]

i saw a long video on joe talking about his cells on google videos -it was a while back and and i dont know if its still up-but one thing i did notice is that his friend said -"that water's a bit slippery joe"

that implies the use of something caustic-cos thats the only thing that is going to make it feel slippery.he also spoke about changing the timing of the engine,and keeping the cell running once conditioned with a 1.5volt battery because sometime before daybreak the cells would go dead

[pinemontgo]

I use some of the concepts in my fuel cell technology. Triatomic Fuel Cells inc .

I use the term WATERGOD on all my videos. People dont get Im not arrogant, just making a statement about the properties of water. Craig Westbrook

[i3inary]

curious to hear what you guys think about this device. he is really applying all the concepts i have researched regarding water in one machine... watch?v=O0By2d7JGtI

comments?

[m3sca1]

i missed your question earlier-the device you talk about is very interesting.the use of high voltages i can follow but the silver antenna triangle things on the top is beyond me-his device is for making healthy water-in my opinion it could be used for making electricity aswell ;)

[PakaNoHida]

5/5

More people need to know about Schauberger and his works. We really need his technology on our planet today. We need to work WITH nature and not against her.

[m3sca1]

thanx for commenting

[DarkArckana]

@PakaNoHida "We need to work WITH nature and not against her." I agree! Did you hear about the snowflake experiment? That was awesome!!

[CosmicGnarler]

Nice demonstration!

If your glass could handle it, try using a "snake egg" hematite zip stone magnet as the stirring element. That little thing you had did a good job getting a vortex though.

[m3sca1]

i have some of those heamatite egg shapes-will try them next time -thanx for your input

[i3inary]

i watched a pretty interesting video on google video called "Nature Was My Teacher - The Vision of Viktor Schauberger" if you haven't seen it you might want to check it out.

[pilzkillz]

If you want to know how to make very easy, fast and cheap energetic water , comparable to best rock water, with a selfmade watervortex watch my video!!

[ZED74]

I'd like to know the name of victors book please ? :)))

[m3sca1]

there is a series of them -published by gateway-its The Energy Revolution.volume 4 of eco-technology series,translated and edited by Callum Coats.

[ZED74]

Thanks , I'll track a copy of that down somehow

[DoktaWhat]

i think its called "living water"

[smokyatgroups]

Demo suggests that the water has become less dense than the ice cube interesting stuff.

Is this just a temporary effect.... & does the before & after conductivity remain constant?

[m3sca1]

its got to do with the vortex and different temp/densities occupying different parts of the vortex.

the coldest water moves to the center and since water is most dense at +4 degrees celcius and then expands as it freezes, unlike any other liquid, then ice can made to sink a vortex -likewise heavy things can be lifted-just watch some tornados for example

[plord28]

All you need now is a few more ice cubes, some sugar, and cherry kool-aid, and you'd have yourself a nice refreshing summer time drink ;o)

[st4ticblu3]

Kool Aids for sheeple. Smarty pants drink juice, :) lol

[gabydewilde]

nice,

[vdeleno]

lo lograste, yo intente recrearlo en un lavadero

y mas o menos quedo asi

[kingdizzydotcom]

what do you know about inducing a vortex throught a pyramid?

[planexzeropoint]

pyramids induce their own vortex mate. google russian pyramid experiments. they've done loads of research into it. it's common knowledge about hanging a razor blade in a pyramid for 3 days and it will sharpen itself. this is due to the vortex created inside it. hope this has helped you mate. If not give us a shout and I'll see what i can dig up for you. :)

[ewmegoolies]

Curiously, I am starting a razor blade factory, we will use no sharpening equipment, just blank stock for the blades, the amazing thing is we will hang them in the pyramid shaped and blessed storage building and they come out sharp in less than a week. I need some startup capital though to build my pyramid. Planexzeropoint? Would you lend me say $10000 or $20000 to get started, you cant lose it really works, I am sure we can out perform Gillette and the others with our low startup cost...

[planexzeropoint]

lol guess you don't have google then

[planexzeropoint]

and if it's costing you $10-$20 grand you need to find a new supplier of fiberglass or perspex.

[ewmegoolies]

Nope, just trying to get you to put your money where your razor blade sharpening mouth is. But I assume you were joking anyway, no rational Brit would actually think pyramids sharpen razor blades.

[planexzeropoint]

actually, the torsion wave field created inside a pyramid induces a vortex flow of electrons which spin round and it's this spinning of electrons that sharpen a dull blade. It's a well documented fact but again i see you've tried to be clever instead of actually doing some leg work to find out for yourself. anyone with any degree of scientific knowledge knows this. I'm guessing you attended the usa's flouride school of indoctrination though so I don't hold you responsible for your dumb remarks

[planexzeropoint]

oh my your in egypt. how the hell do you not know this stuff.

[scrwd2gthr18252]

no glueing it wont work, it changes the , if you dont want to cut your tube use 6" PVC and make a window or side using lexan(not plexi,plexi cracks lexan doesn't) silicone screw to secureit, drill holes then hand screw the screws as not to strip them, I assure you vortex will be more than substantially stronger, a small pump will create a stronger more substantial vortex than a top method using 10 times the power and Torque, try w/ 5gallon bucket,then you will see for yourself it's worth it

[scrwd2gthr18252]

Try Pykrete,which is basically saturated swollen sawdust then frozen when put in sun outlasts ice but it floats and will last! (believe or not Pykrete's bulletproof 2degree,try it!) For a much stronger vortex,center a sink/tub drain in bottom of your tube ,use water pump be sure 2 angle recyled water w/ flow of vortex along wall of tube so not to interrupt vortex, use variable speed to control pump as vortex can expand from what you have to nearly entire surface! big difference,hope this helps!

[m3sca1]

i didnt really want to cut holes in the tube to make the vortex,but thanx for your input.

im still gathering a bunch of materials for the experiment-do you think sawdust glued together would work like Pykrete?

[MrBillTroop73]

I dont believe the ice sinks because of temp gradient, but due to it melting, which causes trapped air to be released until there isnt enough boyancy to counteract the downward pull of the vortex.

[m3sca1]

thanx for your comment.

ice is bouyant because of its density being less than liquid state,not trapped gasses.

the vortex concentrates the coldest water to the central axis,the water directly below the cube is now at a lower pressure.

think about it!

[MrBillTroop73]

Perhaps, but I dont see a way to isolate the forces to prove that.

Since we do indeed see the ice melting, its boyancy becomes less.

[m3sca1]

well perhaps using boiled out water to make the ice could rule out gas bouyancy,but trying to isolate the forces involved would negate the effect-all things work together in this system,and removing any part would stop it working.

perhaps adding hot water to upset the cold core,and a much larger block of ice would help better demostrate the effect.

also lifting something heavier than water.

see the work of Vitctor Schauberger for a heads up on whats going on here

[MrBillTroop73]

Even if you did those things, the only scientific way to conduct this experiment is to use ice that does not melt, thus no change of boyancy from loss of density.

[m3sca1]

ok what about a very cold piece of plastic then,seeing that there is no such thing as ice that doesnt melt.

then im sure you would have no doubt that its not loss of volume and density of the sinking body but a loss in pressure below the body that creates a movement of the body towards that lower pressure.

similar to how plane wing gets lift- i dont see why its so hard to understand.

[MrBillTroop73]

Oh, it isnt hard to understand at all.

I am trying to help you prove it.

Unfortunately, the experiment in the video has a flaw in that the ice is melting.

Perhaps frozen styrofoam would work? ( or it may be too boyant)

[m3sca1]

i will freeze down some perspex or similar-need to get some ice to cool the water to near the anomoly point of +4 degrees C...then i willl repeat-styrofoam probably would be too bouyant like you say.

[m3sca1]

well my first choice of material did not float so i can use that one from the bottom up-still need a plastic with bouyancy similar to ice for the top down....stay posted

[MrBillTroop73]

what about frozen wood?

[m3sca1]

hmmm good idea maybe i should freeze down a bunch of materials....

[nosiriwonthaveapples]

It's kinda cool to see in action magnets having a strong effect on water. Water is repelled by magnetic fields I recall.

[ObiwanCR]

Nice demo.

Have you seen the Windhexe machine? A fantastic device using Schaubergers principles. It seems plasma and electricity conform to the same vortex/roped configuration in nature. There is so much more here than meets the eye!

Again, nice work. Keep it up.

[m3sca1]

wow i hadnt seen the Windhexe machine before.

Amazing thanx for that

[overunitydotcom]

Cool video.

Amazing how the toothpick is going down

so fast...

[m3sca1]

yes its interesting stuff.

the central spiral contains the coldest and therefore the most dense water.

the speed in the vortex core is rotating much faster than the outer layers,and causing a loss in pressure below the toothpick.

its making bouyant things sink.

do it the other way around,and heavy things can now float.

[jo2nne]

so what are the uses of vortex energy cuz?

[m3sca1]

do some google search homework on Victor Schauberger,and im sure you will see the implications.

also watch the youtube vids on Schauberger / Callum Coats.

[zeropointinstitute]

Water for thought LOL

in the northern hemisphere when you flush your toilet the water spins counterclockwise

in the souther hemisphere the water spins clockwise

will the effects be different if you make your spinner spin the other direction?

if you can remove the effects of gravity and spin from the top, then the dimple cone will pull up from the bottom

that is the other half of the vortex

[m3sca1]

thanx for commenting-its not well known that rifling in gun barrels should match the hemisphere in which it is to be used,so it follows that direction of spin would be important.

[FBRK8R]

It's working for me now, interesting how it makes things sink like that

[m3sca1]

cool-im glad you had the patience to keep trying.

the spiral works both ways

if i spin the water from the top-i can make heavy things float up the vortex.

[FBRK8R]

I was going to ask if that happened but I figured that heavy things would hit the impeller first. Spin it from the top, DUH!

[ehnriko]

I had problems viewing videos before due to my off- CODEX... but I have no problem watching this video too.

[m3sca1]

thankyou

[jesslessthemess]

it works for me. Cool vid.

[m3sca1]

thanx for that -i nearly pulled it down today,but if it can be viewed then i guess i will lieave it up.

[ronaldoelpaso]

can't play it. youtube won't let anyone see video's this powerful. i'm surprised it isn't removed all together.

[m3sca1]

its nothing that cant be found elsewhere on YT.

so i dont see the big deal.

owell i may as well take it down if no one can view it.........

[skinostra]

Thanks for that will look out for it.

[skinostra]

m3sca1 What is the name of the book you are using here.

Thanks

[m3sca1]

the energy evolution.

harnessing free energy from nature.

Victor Schauberger,

translated and edited by Callum Coats

vol 4 of eco-technology series.

published by

gateway

[FBRK8R]

Won't let me watch it either, you must be onto something!

[m3sca1]

damn.......

did you try going back then forward in your browser or refreshing?

[crob227]

it wont let me watch the whole thing.

ihave tried several times

i will try again later

[crippled82]

very cool phenomenon and experiment!

any idea why the cube melts this quick?

is it because of, let's say, inward heat accumulation, or friction?

[m3sca1]

the cube is cooling the flow of the water spirals under a falling temperature gradient,in doing so the cube is gaining energy by way of rising temperature gradient,the water then becomes more dense ,as it moves towards the anomoly point of +4 deg C.

thats why the cube doesnt sink immediately.

any cube would melt that fast given the flow/and volume of water it had to cool.

how is it that a temperature difference in the order of 0.1 of a degree,can change the properties of water so much?

[ehnriko]

WOW!