(86:5-7) "He is created from a gushing fluid that issued from between the loins and ribs."
Semen is issued from testicles.....why does it say backbone and ribs????? Can anyone explain......and do study reproductive system before commenting?????
@foonty ok got the following explanation from a website for you it may make things clear for you:
"Sulb" is the backbone and "tara'ib"the breast- bones, i.e. the ribs. Since the procreative fluid in both man and woman is discharged from that part of the body which is between the back and the breast, it is said that man has been created from the fluid issuing out froth between the back and the breast. This fluid is produced even in case the hands and feet are cut off. continue....
@islamthetruth1 and my point is if no sperms come from testes then no body can reproduce.....whic Quran doesn't mentions......Fluids coming from seminal vessicles and prostrate glands which are inside the body can't reproduce.....you might wanna reconsider what you said.....
@foonty Therefore, it is not correct to say that it issues out from the whole body of man. In fact, the principal organs of the body are its source and all these are located in the trunk. The brain has not been mentioned separately because the back-bone is that part of the brain through which connection between the body and the brain is established.
@islamthetruth1 you just proved Quran wrong.......If you look at Human anatomy you will see that sperms are produced in testes and then it goes to seminal vescicles and prostrate glands where other ejaculatory fluids are added and then it comes out of your penis......which are no where close to ribs and at the end of back bone.......Whta you are telling me a joke scientifically and it proves that Quran is wrong and just a guesswork......
@foonty with respect Quran is not a guess work if it was it would not be followed by a billions of people! as in regards to this statement I think if ur really interested in understanding it I suggest you should do your research on this specific sura 86, plenty of other materials on this sura. unfortunatly I am not in a position to answer ur question that would really give you the answer you are looking for however am 100% there is a explanation out there that would make sense to you.
@islamthetruth1 see you can't even answer a simple question......thats why Quran is doubtable.......Islam is spreading cuz muslims are reproducing so fast......its not that people are converting to Islam......and most of muslims like you can't even answer simple Questions about Quran.........thats why you need to learn your religion and do some research....I did mine and am looking for logic.....
@foonty as well as reproducing, there are many many people as evident on youtube people turning to islam. so just consider that at least 1000 people everyday(grownups adults) revert/converts to islam. if your looking for logic, u will find it in islam. harun yahya, google him he has alot of materials relating to logic and God. I know my religion well enough to believe in it.
@islamthetruth1 look it tells how little knowledge of Quran you have....instead of generalizing tell me what you understand from those verses.......There are many people following different religions blindly.....do you think all of them are right....they are totally convinced like you. And soread of Islam is not due to conversion. Its because of reproduction rate of Muslims....you guys have more than 3 children...I saw a man living on welfare in UK with 10 children and planning for more..it sux!
@foonty I am nt claiming at al tht I knw the Quran well, I am studyng it as I go in life and I dnt thnk, given the bsy life I will be able to totly undrstand the Quran, but let me say this, I aint fllowing it blindly! a qck google reveals a great debte about this particular verse on the internet, i suggest u go and join them cos I am not the one to offer u an absolute answer. God willing it will be made clear in the future just like many other things. if I do have an answer will get back to u
@foonty just to update you here is a bit clearer explanation I grabed of the net does this give u a bit more info or shall I continue my research into the matter?
In embryonic stages, the reproductive organs of the male and female, ie. the testicles and the ovaries, begin their development near the kidney exactly between the spinal column and the eleventh and twelfth ribs.
@foonty Later they descend; the female gonads (ovaries) stop in the pelvis while the male gonads continue their decent before birth to reach the scrotum outside the body through the inguinal canal. Even after the embryonic stage after the decent of the reproductive organ, these organs receive their nerve supply and blood supply (from the Aorta) and lymphatic drainage which is in the area between the backbone (spinal column) and the ribs
@islamthetruth1 dude.....this doesn't proves the line in Sura 86 5-7........it says that gonads are located near the back bone and loins.........gonads in a male body are testes.......how are they located inside the body and the fact that nerves are connected everywhere in the body.....it doesn't proves that semen comes from them..I am telling you literally sperms are formed in testes and they travel throught seminal vescicles and then come out of the penis.....but Quran tells something else
@foonty Yes, your probably right that its produced in the testes, but thats what we know now! maybe in the future like it has has happend our understanding, our theories might change and would then say no...u have to agree with this fact cos our undrstanding is still lmted no mtr hw mch we think we know(leaving religion aside). my undrstnding from this whole chptr is that I undrstnd who I am, humn, and I have no power in essence and I know someone must have created me and it can only be God.
@islamthetruth1 Dude....you are brainwashed by Islam..........so you might also say that in future humans might start eating from their feet instead of hands.......u haven't answered my question.....I don't care about your belief in God. I am just trying to tell you that Quran has a wrong verse which makes it not so godly.......
@foonty well, I would not go as far making a false claim....the other reason that you have problem understanding this verse is that the actual words that are said(if you listen) do not exists in English to be translated from Arabic, this translation of the meaning of those verses as close as it gets. out of interest are you really interested in Islam or are you just just interested in the idea that you can prove islam is not a religion of God?
@islamthetruth1 and also I have asked this question to many muslims but nobody knows the answer and only three(including you) have mangaed to copy paste that gonads theory.....I think that they used medical terms just to confuse the common man and give this verse a benefit of doubt.
@foonty Well from my personal point of view, I am not interested in any theory, however, I am interested inthe words said in the video above, the translations and explanations are merely there to help understand.... thats cos I am a muslim, I believe in every word SAID in the above video.
@islamthetruth1 so you mean you will believe in every lie it may preach.....isn't that ignorant....why don't you google search a little bit and look for logic and science.......what you are saying is against the biology.....how ignorant can anyone be?
@foonty the problem with you is that you dont even see science and logic presented in the Quran let alone blive in it. I know the science and logic u talk about and that is presented in the Quran clearly. Obviously u have failed to realise that your not God and that your trying to be God or bigger than God by picking on a verse that is clear in its explanation bt nt proven yet! or perhaps proven but u fail to acknowledge. anyway am done with u. there is no purpose in continuing commentary with u
@islamthetruth1 and there is no purpose talking with you cuz you don't even know the meaning of Quran or can explain that.....shame on yourself.......instead of making me believe into your system tell me why you can't explain that sura and still believe in Islam........Islam has told you muslims not to question god and hence has made you retarded blindfollowers.......
@foonty First of all I am not making u believe in islam, second of all I tried to explain the sura and thanks to u now I know the context of this sura and its meaning because u have lead me to do some research, however, u have rejected every single explanation with no acknowledgement of any kind. you are questioning God words(whether u believe or not) in such way that God have made a mistake and I will never ever accept such thing cos the God that I believe in does not make mistake
@foonty I will however give you as much material as I possibly can but my knowledge in this area of science does not go as far as explaining the matter comprehensively as you would like
@foonty Ok sorry for the late reply, I am not monitoring youtube channel that much. I believe and have accepted Islam as my religion. that means I can question my religion in whatever way I like to better my understanding. what do you mean even if its worng? I dont believe its worng, that your belief. I believe Islam is the last message from God for mankind.
I just saw something wrong in Quran
(86:5-7) "He is created from a gushing fluid that issued from between the loins and ribs."
Semen is issued from testicles.....why does it say backbone and ribs????? Can anyone explain......and do study reproductive system before commenting?????
foonty 1 year ago
@foonty ok got the following explanation from a website for you it may make things clear for you:
"Sulb" is the backbone and "tara'ib"the breast- bones, i.e. the ribs. Since the procreative fluid in both man and woman is discharged from that part of the body which is between the back and the breast, it is said that man has been created from the fluid issuing out froth between the back and the breast. This fluid is produced even in case the hands and feet are cut off. continue....
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@islamthetruth1 and my point is if no sperms come from testes then no body can reproduce.....whic Quran doesn't mentions......Fluids coming from seminal vessicles and prostrate glands which are inside the body can't reproduce.....you might wanna reconsider what you said.....
foonty 1 year ago
@foonty Therefore, it is not correct to say that it issues out from the whole body of man. In fact, the principal organs of the body are its source and all these are located in the trunk. The brain has not been mentioned separately because the back-bone is that part of the brain through which connection between the body and the brain is established.
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@islamthetruth1 you just proved Quran wrong.......If you look at Human anatomy you will see that sperms are produced in testes and then it goes to seminal vescicles and prostrate glands where other ejaculatory fluids are added and then it comes out of your penis......which are no where close to ribs and at the end of back bone.......Whta you are telling me a joke scientifically and it proves that Quran is wrong and just a guesswork......
foonty 1 year ago
@foonty with respect Quran is not a guess work if it was it would not be followed by a billions of people! as in regards to this statement I think if ur really interested in understanding it I suggest you should do your research on this specific sura 86, plenty of other materials on this sura. unfortunatly I am not in a position to answer ur question that would really give you the answer you are looking for however am 100% there is a explanation out there that would make sense to you.
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@islamthetruth1 see you can't even answer a simple question......thats why Quran is doubtable.......Islam is spreading cuz muslims are reproducing so fast......its not that people are converting to Islam......and most of muslims like you can't even answer simple Questions about Quran.........thats why you need to learn your religion and do some research....I did mine and am looking for logic.....
foonty 1 year ago
@foonty as well as reproducing, there are many many people as evident on youtube people turning to islam. so just consider that at least 1000 people everyday(grownups adults) revert/converts to islam. if your looking for logic, u will find it in islam. harun yahya, google him he has alot of materials relating to logic and God. I know my religion well enough to believe in it.
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@islamthetruth1 look it tells how little knowledge of Quran you have....instead of generalizing tell me what you understand from those verses.......There are many people following different religions blindly.....do you think all of them are right....they are totally convinced like you. And soread of Islam is not due to conversion. Its because of reproduction rate of Muslims....you guys have more than 3 children...I saw a man living on welfare in UK with 10 children and planning for more..it sux!
foonty 1 year ago
@foonty I am nt claiming at al tht I knw the Quran well, I am studyng it as I go in life and I dnt thnk, given the bsy life I will be able to totly undrstand the Quran, but let me say this, I aint fllowing it blindly! a qck google reveals a great debte about this particular verse on the internet, i suggest u go and join them cos I am not the one to offer u an absolute answer. God willing it will be made clear in the future just like many other things. if I do have an answer will get back to u
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@foonty just to update you here is a bit clearer explanation I grabed of the net does this give u a bit more info or shall I continue my research into the matter?
In embryonic stages, the reproductive organs of the male and female, ie. the testicles and the ovaries, begin their development near the kidney exactly between the spinal column and the eleventh and twelfth ribs.
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@foonty Later they descend; the female gonads (ovaries) stop in the pelvis while the male gonads continue their decent before birth to reach the scrotum outside the body through the inguinal canal. Even after the embryonic stage after the decent of the reproductive organ, these organs receive their nerve supply and blood supply (from the Aorta) and lymphatic drainage which is in the area between the backbone (spinal column) and the ribs
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@islamthetruth1 dude.....this doesn't proves the line in Sura 86 5-7........it says that gonads are located near the back bone and loins.........gonads in a male body are testes.......how are they located inside the body and the fact that nerves are connected everywhere in the body.....it doesn't proves that semen comes from them..I am telling you literally sperms are formed in testes and they travel throught seminal vescicles and then come out of the penis.....but Quran tells something else
foonty 1 year ago
@foonty Yes, your probably right that its produced in the testes, but thats what we know now! maybe in the future like it has has happend our understanding, our theories might change and would then say no...u have to agree with this fact cos our undrstanding is still lmted no mtr hw mch we think we know(leaving religion aside). my undrstnding from this whole chptr is that I undrstnd who I am, humn, and I have no power in essence and I know someone must have created me and it can only be God.
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@islamthetruth1 Dude....you are brainwashed by Islam..........so you might also say that in future humans might start eating from their feet instead of hands.......u haven't answered my question.....I don't care about your belief in God. I am just trying to tell you that Quran has a wrong verse which makes it not so godly.......
foonty 1 year ago
@foonty well, I would not go as far making a false claim....the other reason that you have problem understanding this verse is that the actual words that are said(if you listen) do not exists in English to be translated from Arabic, this translation of the meaning of those verses as close as it gets. out of interest are you really interested in Islam or are you just just interested in the idea that you can prove islam is not a religion of God?
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@islamthetruth1 and also I have asked this question to many muslims but nobody knows the answer and only three(including you) have mangaed to copy paste that gonads theory.....I think that they used medical terms just to confuse the common man and give this verse a benefit of doubt.
foonty 1 year ago
@foonty Well from my personal point of view, I am not interested in any theory, however, I am interested inthe words said in the video above, the translations and explanations are merely there to help understand.... thats cos I am a muslim, I believe in every word SAID in the above video.
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@islamthetruth1 so you mean you will believe in every lie it may preach.....isn't that ignorant....why don't you google search a little bit and look for logic and science.......what you are saying is against the biology.....how ignorant can anyone be?
foonty 1 year ago
@foonty the problem with you is that you dont even see science and logic presented in the Quran let alone blive in it. I know the science and logic u talk about and that is presented in the Quran clearly. Obviously u have failed to realise that your not God and that your trying to be God or bigger than God by picking on a verse that is clear in its explanation bt nt proven yet! or perhaps proven but u fail to acknowledge. anyway am done with u. there is no purpose in continuing commentary with u
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@islamthetruth1 and there is no purpose talking with you cuz you don't even know the meaning of Quran or can explain that.....shame on yourself.......instead of making me believe into your system tell me why you can't explain that sura and still believe in Islam........Islam has told you muslims not to question god and hence has made you retarded blindfollowers.......
foonty 1 year ago
@foonty First of all I am not making u believe in islam, second of all I tried to explain the sura and thanks to u now I know the context of this sura and its meaning because u have lead me to do some research, however, u have rejected every single explanation with no acknowledgement of any kind. you are questioning God words(whether u believe or not) in such way that God have made a mistake and I will never ever accept such thing cos the God that I believe in does not make mistake
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@foonty /watch?v=tmUsZ-cKxIk This student talks about why he became muslim and he did cos of he saw science and logic.
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@foonty I will however give you as much material as I possibly can but my knowledge in this area of science does not go as far as explaining the matter comprehensively as you would like
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
@islamthetruth1
so you believe in whatever Islam says.....even if its wrong?????
foonty 1 year ago
@foonty Ok sorry for the late reply, I am not monitoring youtube channel that much. I believe and have accepted Islam as my religion. that means I can question my religion in whatever way I like to better my understanding. what do you mean even if its worng? I dont believe its worng, that your belief. I believe Islam is the last message from God for mankind.
islamthetruth1 1 year ago
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