Thank you for publicly speaking the truth in love, Fr. Jim. Let us pray for more brave and loving souls like you. The Church has sinned greatly against the gay and lesbian children of God. May there be healing among us, and may there be a swift end to hateful scapegoating of gay and lesbian people. May God bless you, Fr. Jim.
Jesus reached out to the marginalised 2000 years ago, prostitutes, tax collecters, etc, the woman caught in adultery. He didn't admonish the sinner but he did say......go and sin no more!
I want to thank you for being so brave and speaking these words, despite the fact that many in your church will disagree with you. Someday, I think most of the human race will understand that love is love. I'm proud to be gay! I couldn't have said that as a scared child for whom the fear of hell was as real as Coca-Cola. It took me years to even begin to quit hating myself. I now realize that I'm good and deserving of equal rights. Blessings from a Unitarian Universalist Pagan.
I like how you address this issue, and expressed that there is LOVE, HOPE, AND CHARITY for those who suffer with same sex attraction... my only concern is,
I just wish you would ALSO have given the Church's point of view. Clarified that although we are to love the sinner we are also to distinguish that we DONT condone the SIN, that acting on same sex attraction physically is to fall into sin, and that its important to trust that feeling that says this is wrong, and to repent of it.
I do not dispute your arguments on the love of God. I also agree that Jesus would be reaching out to gays and lesbians if he were walking the earth today. Absolutely he would! But he would also be calling gays to live the commandments of God. All people have their weaknesses, and we all struggle with parts of the God's law, but we are all to be held accountable and help one another.
God loves us too much to let us remain as we are--and all of us are sinners.
Hey! I just read one of this guy's books! Between Heaven and Mirth...it was.....ah....okay. Hee hee....Wow, I kinda look like this guy...............and not that it matters, but I'm gay......yay!
Man, this is such a relief after listening to Fred Phelps and his family all day. that guy seriously confuses me about God. But, in the grand scheme of things, they are twisted f*cks. Regardless of whether homosexuality is a sin or not, I DO NOT TOLERATE homophobic language. it all boils down to treat others the way you want to be treated. pretty friggan obvious freddie. God have mercy on us all.
As a Gay Catholic who co-founded DIGNITY (for lgbtq Catholics) in Toronto 37 years ago I KNOW it gets better in the Catholic Church and our Catholic Educational System in Ontario because I struggled with a lot of lgbtq students and teachers to make it better. Father James Martin's message is true--our Faith and struggles to educate our Catholic Church on the importance of listening to us and hearing us and our Truth: "Gay is INDEED GOOD" makes it better.
Saying "Gay is Good" is NOT what the Church teaches. It teaches homosexuality is disordered and we should do all we can to turn them away from their sinful lifestyles. How about you promote Courage? That has Church backing.
@MrTrilliondollarman Ideas change. At one time, forced slavery was acceptable and encourage in The United States. But we know believe it is morally reprehensible. 10,000 years from now, no one is going to care if someone was gay or care about your prejudicial and discriminatory views. Papal infallibility is an example of another ridiculous Catholic belief, or the wine and bread turning into the actual, true, worldly blood and body of Christ.
What you just said is quite self-defeating for three reasons: it commits the gambler's fallacy, it commits the historians fallacy, and if people years from now still think being gay is wrong, then time would not be on your side.
I know there are probably more intelligent and prudent Catholics out there who knew that it wouldn't be a good idea to go toe to toe with anyone pro-gay on this video but you two guys missed the memo I guess.
Leviticus 19:16-18 'You shall not go about as a slanderer among your people, and you are not to act against the life of your neighbor; I am the LORD. You shall not hate your fellow countryman in your heart; You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the LORD." Read your bible and stop picking and choosing...
Catholics+Jesus=Water+Oil. If your a Gay,Lesbian,Bisexual,Transgender youth, and believe in God and Jesus,the Mennonites and Presbyterians(off the top of my head) accept you and also follow Christ.Listen to this Jesuit Catholic Priest for the positives of his message and then go to a religion that doesn't condemn you and will support you in actually being like Christ instead of judging like him.I have videos of other religions and a subscription to a Mennonite Church you can contact for info.
I find it pathetic and frankly tragic that this catholic priest comes on to an anti-suicide (which is an automatic go to hell sin)video for children being bullied in school(for being GLBT which is another go to hell and/or be killed in real life cause it's a sin) and other catholics come here and post that they are not accepted by god and this priest is wrong.What a religion.
@TheNolo73 If it's not in your in interest to get "married" in the Catholic Church, why the fuck are we even talking about it? Let the State marry you and your partner, don't meddle with the Church.
The Pope has publicly denounced pedophilia, and stated that any member of the clergy who commited this crime should be dealt with by secular law. If he has protected pedophiles, he's going against Church dogma.
@cashernandes1 Go to a pro-catholic video and debate on your catholic issues and stop commenting on an anti-suicide and anti-bullying video for homosexual kids.No one who watches this videos even cares about the Church.It's not always about you people.
Then it should come as no surprise to you then we don't care for anything said in this video. As a priest, Fr Martin should be doing his job and turning gays AWAY from their sinful lifestyles, not encouraging it.
@MrTrilliondollarman If you don't care for anything said in this video then you are deliberately using your statements to hurt those who view it.You know it's directed at gay kids and intended to give them the finger.Catholics+Jesus=Water+Oil.
@TheNolo73 Apparently, you care about catholic issues, otherwise you wouldn't have made various replies on the subject (and being refuted every single time).
This actually HAS to do with the Catholic Church, since this heretical priest (as opposed to a random guy) who wants to pass for Catholic is going against Catholic dogma.
@cashernandes1 No apparently I noticed the negative comments here about gays and lesbians and against this priest in particular that made me respond.Why don't you go back to all the comments,yours included and read them before you post.When I see bull crap on here I'm not going to just leave it alone for others to see.I see that you continue with your discussion on Catholic issues about this priest and don't care about the message he was trying to convey to the intended audience.Idiot.
@cashernandes1 I should have expected that you would either be lazy or would think that I wouldn't copy and paste your responses.I have made truthful comments about Catholics by the way.Mr.Trilliondollarman saying they are not true doesn't make it so.I give what I get when it comes to insults to me and to gays and lesbians so don't dish it out if you can't take it.Look above for the comments I copied of yours of which I responded.
@TheNolo73 Cash-No, you don't understand. Anyone from the clergy who suports homosexuality is AUTOMATICALLY excommunicated from the Church, according to the Vatican. A grant is not needed. What is needed though (to come back to the Church) is that the Pope lift thouse excommunications himself. So it's the other way around in fact. Supporting communism, abortion, etc, also results in automatic excommunications.
@TheNolo73 Cash-"support of pedophiles"? The Pope has publicly condemned pedophilia, as well as other aberrations. The Church has never accepted it. It is true, though, that some members of the clergy have commited this crime. But in doing so they were DISOBEYING the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, not the other way around. They should be judged both by ecclesiastical and secular law.
@TheNolo73 Cash-If gay people want to get married, for instance, let the State marry them. To desire gay marriage in a CATHOLIC Church is heresy, and this priest is a heretic.
@TheNolo73 Cash- What kind of "rights" would a Catholic priest be denying to a homossexual by condemning homosexuality? That homosexuality is a sin is Catholic DOGMA. If you don't believe it's a sin, then you're not Catholic, as simple as that. If you don't believe it's a sin and call yourself Catholic, you're a heretic. Some things, like defending homosexual behavior, renders automatic excommunications from the Church. This priest, for instance, only pretends it's not so.
@TheNolo73 Cash-So no-one is benefiting pedophiles in the NAME of the Roman Church, quite the contrary.
Plus, I never said that being gay gets you excommunicated from the Church. I said that members of the CLERGY who publicly support homosexuality get automatically excommunicated.
@cashernandes1 All these comments you made either condemns this priest, denies the culpability of the church of pedophiles, calls gay marriage heresy,calls gays and lesbians a sin.All are negative comments about homosexuality and to this priest.They are also complaints to me about the Catholic Church.Fail.Here we go again having talking points about Catholics when this video was intended to save children from bullying and suicide.
@TheNolo73 So no-one is benefiting pedophiles in the NAME of the Roman Church, quite the contrary.
Plus, I never said that being gay gets you excommunicated from the Church. I said that members of the CLERGY who publicly support homosexuality get automatically excommunicated.
@cashernandes1 I find it pathetic and frankly tragic that this catholic priest comes on to an anti-suicide (which is an automatic go to hell sin)video for children being bullied in school(for being GLBT which is another go to hell and/or be killed in real life cause it's a sin) and other catholics come here and post that they are not accepted by god and this priest is wrong.What a religion.
Reports of gays being bullied in schools is grossly exaggerated. More kids are bullied for being overweight than being gay. Your grasp of the Bible is pathetic and your willingness to jump on bandwagons with no basis in fact is just sad.
@MrTrilliondollarman Ah shut up man.You've already proven by past statements how you post your opinions as facts without evidence.You think people will take your comments as fact? You also show that it will take a lot of casualties to sway your view as to the crimes against anyone the Church or bullies commit.You are Catholic's pet and the fact that you sent me a private message with your sources and they were all Catholic websites prove it and also proves that you know others won't buy them.
If you don't want the accusations and criticisms thrown your way,get out of politics and keep you religion to your followers.The time has past when religion is necessary now there are civilizations, so it is now a choice to be part of it.The 1% of gays lesbians bisexuals and transgender(according to the expert Mr.Trilliondollarman) is all it takes to move forward against any one god religion religions out there that fight against us.we will have our equal rights and God still loves us if we care
Perry,running for president uses gay and lesbian solders as a negative to being american and true Christians, the bachmans uses religion to cause damage to gays and lesbians using reversion therapy, and they all use the Bible to try and change the constitution itself.I am tired of a religion among many changing and rejecting Americans to their books values that they themselves don't adhere to.You guys can't come together in peace, decide on one Bible to follow and follow it, and don't release
@TheNolo73@TheNolo73 those who want to get out of you religion like me.It does not matter what new policies you place when they aren't enforced and you still use the Bible to condemn the new minority, the GLBT community. Just use Google and look for yourself all the different newspapers following the pedophile cases in catholic religion today.Salvation Army is a christian organization that uses their charity to negatively force their local governments to act against another minority,gays.
I don't respond anymore directly to Mr.Trilliondollarman because he just says not true,those responsible were watered down catholic,still catholics by the way,and just calls me an atheist because I reject his religion.He won't take any independent resources to even look into it and claims he is an authority of Catholicism just by virtue of saying they are false and not looking into them himself.I get tired of his bullshit just like those who are tired of religion and choose to be spiritual.
@TheNolo73@TheNolo73 Being arrogant and looking down at others who even question what catholics and christians actually did and how they are actually using in their bible today wont make you any more fans of your religion.You can just keep closing your eyes while your pews remain empty and you close more and more churches.Ratzinger,a former member of the Nazi youth right? Hides his men till this day and the kids who are the most innocent didn't get the Bible used on them in their favor.
Now that a Catholic Priest and quite a few of them are actually using the Bible to include and forgive gays lesbians bisexuals and transgender, the same thing is happening again with the majority of catholics using it to condemn and reject them from church and influencing the government to reject them from society.There was always a chance for catholics to repent and it always took people in society to finally change their minds.Catholics and Christians included but not because they were.
@TheNolo73@TheNolo73 They were human beings who just saw past the BS religion kept pushing on them.There are more and more spiritual,not religious people and agnostics and atheists in society because of religion.You don't need it to have God like you need politicians for the government to run so people just leave or choose not to join.You are counted as catholic by your Baptism and it takes forever t get out of the religion so numbers are inflated in regards to how many true catholics there are
What did the pedophile catholic priests use from the Bible to reason with themselves how it was ok to do what they did to those kids in thier care.Why does it matter that only 5% were responsible? Especially when they didn't recieve thier punishments from thier governments and are protected to this day?Passages in the Bible that were still used in the past are still there today,said differently in the many version all still used and available today.Women still can't be Pope.
@TheNolo73@TheNolo73 You are to be pro life but can't use protection to prevent a pregnancy.You must not be promiscuous but be fruitful and multiply.They don't police adultery,promiscuity,or divorce with the same zeal that they do with those who aren't of their faith.You can divorce as a catholic when divorce is not part of marriage in the Bible,read it.Part of the 5% of that abused innocent victims include 200 deaf boys which to me would seem plenty.
What I posted of my comments has truth in all of them.From the first of them on trying to get out of the religion,to how the Bible was used against the minorities in the past up until now,to Catholics and Christians always pointing the condemning finger at those outside the church while deflecting their evil actions and not taking responsibility.To further and keep alive their religion and to protect themselves.I put in statements deliberately to prove deflection in just Mr.Trilliondollarman
@TheNolo73@TheNolo73 , a religious person's lame ability at deflection himself.No sources has he cited,he has none or too lazy to post,rejection of the ones that I got just from google and another person's personal research about the Bible and has a whole website on it.He does what the Church does,ssay people just don't understand or say it's just not true when the point is those in the chatholic religion are the ones who didn't understand and used it for evil in the past as in the future.
blame Google not me on where I get my resources from man.Are you saying Google actually picks newspapers with atheists points of view and places them first on the search pages? Just google pedophilia in the Catholic Church yourself and read the updates.
@MrTrilliondollarman Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. Isaiah 13:15-18
Not counting bishops and taking out those over 80, we are then left with 410, 593. But wait: this is still the issue of whether any of them lied about being gay. That then shrinks to the number of bad priests to only 300 across the world.
@MrTrilliondollarman I just read Ezekiel 23 again. It was so horrible that it made dime store romance books look like a Douglas Adams novel. It was nothing but pornographic rubbish. I wish I hadn't read it, for now I will surely have nightmares about Yawheh making women cut their breasts off before having them stoned to death. I would definitely not recommend this book. Two out of five stars.
New Living Translation (NLT) 16 The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords.”
16 Samaria is held guilty,[a] For she has rebelled against her God. They shall fall by the sword, Their infants shall be dashed in pieces, And their women with child ripped open.
3 Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”
King James Version (KJV) 29And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. King James anyone?
@MrTrilliondollarman Dude they even had the ten commandments on television every christmas with the killing of every first born showing like an action movie scene with charlton heston.Come on now.Can't forget those special effects.
@MrTrilliondollarman How about the scene where Yul Bryner played Ramses and was about to lose his firstborn unless he released Moses people? Cool huh?
@MrTrilliondollarman Come on now! You don't read the papers following 9/11? You had religious leaders immediately telling people not to hurt Muslims and Muslims reporting abuse against them.You have a short memory.
@MrTrilliondollarman I've seen Egyptian statues of a mother holding her child the same way Mary held Jesus.What was that piece of art called? Recycled religion I think.
Wrong. There are no similarities between the two. Again, the notion is not held as valid by people with their head on straight...a group that doesn't include you.
@MrTrilliondollarman These are just what your religion teaches to the masses. People not even of the faith.From the extreme to the hilarious.That's why Santa is the most popular figure on Christmas!
@MrTrilliondollarman Your followers don't understand nor bother to follow your religion until they need it to feed their hate.Haven't you noticed that.You guys are more like satan than jesus.
Not even close. When a disaster happens like 9-11, I don't recall anyone asking for Satan. I saw people go to churches in droves, shocked that their view of the world no longer made any sense and seeking a new way to look at things.
@MrTrilliondollarman And immediately wanting revenge against Islam.When That terrorist got killed Osama? Boy were there cheers from Christians.Peaceful Jesus Christians.People always go to God when scared or when they are guilty.They don't stay true in good times.Always getting forgiveness and converting after they commit all those sins.
Those were from those who lost loved ones in 9-11. He was a war criminal who showed no remorse for what he did. People go to God for guidance and wisdom. Even psychologists are realizing the principles found in the Bible.
@MrTrilliondollarman Catholicism needs a makeover man.Too much cover ups and no responsibility for it's actions.Then totally there when they want to condemn others and use the Bible for it.
@MrTrilliondollarman lol Inquisition.A lot of you say it was a mistake and now you're for it? Hate when people talk huh? You guys should just hole up in your houses and stop preaching what you yourselves don't practice.
No one says it was a mistake, except those who don't understand it in the first place. You should go back to school since you don't know much of anything. Be sure it's a catholic university so you'll actually learn something.
@MrTrilliondollarman Now a days there's more places better than religion to go to for guidance and help without strings attached.If the place you go to is corrupt it gets shut down where as the church runs forever no matter what.
@MrTrilliondollarman The same mental health experts you guys condemn for saying homosexuality is not a mental health condition? Weird to see a Catholic cite mental health experts.
@MrTrilliondollarman For a group of people representing just one percent of americans we kick your Catholics ass in everything huh? Ass is nasty?I didn't start the name calling,read your past posts. I had to repeat.lol
You should be embracing it...knowing full well the accusations against the Church are false and misleading. Also, there should not have been any Apostles that betrayed Christ but 1 out of 12 did.
Mr.Trilliondollarman lol you are not the only one who reads these posts Mr. Explain it away.Your debating skills can't match just plain facts.Especially when you don't even bother to counter any article I post right off Google.
B i s h o p A c c o u n t i b i l i t y d o t O r g Updated on dec. 9 2011 Documents on church administration and the abuse crisis, including major collections of diocesan and investigative files
I see you've blocked me. I hope these news paper sites on all these cases concerning pedophilia in the catholic church makes you think more clearly.Please stop explaining away the responsibility the church has.
@MrTrilliondollarman You know when you say modernist mentality, it's just a compliment on my thinking and a negative to past religious leaders thinking and actions so thank you.
Sure I am...the number of priests who were guilty amounted to at best 5% of all priests, most likely in areas trying their best to water down the faith.
@MrTrilliondollarman This site helps readers understand this complicated story by organizing the vast amount of material into categories; enhancing it with audio, video, message boards, and photo galleries, and making thousands of pages of depositions, letters, and internal Catholic Church documents -- original source material -- available for readers to peruse.
@MrTrilliondollarman The leaders of your church should tell it's followers not to go on comment posts and pretend to be experts on their religion.Followers follow what they are preached and never question.
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) This is some in slavery.I'll give you time on explaining why telling ME the correct way to interpret these has anything to do with how it was interpreted in the past for slavery and carried out.
@MrTrilliondollarman The Whole Bible has never been taken into context when being used on people.What's your point?Because mine is that your book doesn't matter when it's used for selfish and evil purposes as it has been used in the past and is now in the present.
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BBRENTTAGHAPP 1 day ago
Wow-a gay Jesuit! That's amazing!
NixonisLord 1 week ago
Thank you for publicly speaking the truth in love, Fr. Jim. Let us pray for more brave and loving souls like you. The Church has sinned greatly against the gay and lesbian children of God. May there be healing among us, and may there be a swift end to hateful scapegoating of gay and lesbian people. May God bless you, Fr. Jim.
Liminalitea 1 week ago
Jesus reached out to the marginalised 2000 years ago, prostitutes, tax collecters, etc, the woman caught in adultery. He didn't admonish the sinner but he did say......go and sin no more!
Keylemvids 2 weeks ago
I want to thank you for being so brave and speaking these words, despite the fact that many in your church will disagree with you. Someday, I think most of the human race will understand that love is love. I'm proud to be gay! I couldn't have said that as a scared child for whom the fear of hell was as real as Coca-Cola. It took me years to even begin to quit hating myself. I now realize that I'm good and deserving of equal rights. Blessings from a Unitarian Universalist Pagan.
jajohnson7809 3 weeks ago
I like how you address this issue, and expressed that there is LOVE, HOPE, AND CHARITY for those who suffer with same sex attraction... my only concern is,
I just wish you would ALSO have given the Church's point of view. Clarified that although we are to love the sinner we are also to distinguish that we DONT condone the SIN, that acting on same sex attraction physically is to fall into sin, and that its important to trust that feeling that says this is wrong, and to repent of it.
JustinofRomeAD 3 weeks ago
Mirabile visu est ex ecclesiam Romanum! Te ago gratias! Vale.
StigmochelysPardalis 1 month ago
Fr Martin,
I do not dispute your arguments on the love of God. I also agree that Jesus would be reaching out to gays and lesbians if he were walking the earth today. Absolutely he would! But he would also be calling gays to live the commandments of God. All people have their weaknesses, and we all struggle with parts of the God's law, but we are all to be held accountable and help one another.
God loves us too much to let us remain as we are--and all of us are sinners.
smithjamesthomas 1 month ago
Hey! I just read one of this guy's books! Between Heaven and Mirth...it was.....ah....okay. Hee hee....Wow, I kinda look like this guy...............and not that it matters, but I'm gay......yay!
paintur68 1 month ago
Man, this is such a relief after listening to Fred Phelps and his family all day. that guy seriously confuses me about God. But, in the grand scheme of things, they are twisted f*cks. Regardless of whether homosexuality is a sin or not, I DO NOT TOLERATE homophobic language. it all boils down to treat others the way you want to be treated. pretty friggan obvious freddie. God have mercy on us all.
kubrox91 1 month ago 2
As a Gay Catholic who co-founded DIGNITY (for lgbtq Catholics) in Toronto 37 years ago I KNOW it gets better in the Catholic Church and our Catholic Educational System in Ontario because I struggled with a lot of lgbtq students and teachers to make it better. Father James Martin's message is true--our Faith and struggles to educate our Catholic Church on the importance of listening to us and hearing us and our Truth: "Gay is INDEED GOOD" makes it better.
cbarryblackburn 2 months ago
@cbarryblackburn
Saying "Gay is Good" is NOT what the Church teaches. It teaches homosexuality is disordered and we should do all we can to turn them away from their sinful lifestyles. How about you promote Courage? That has Church backing.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Ideas change. At one time, forced slavery was acceptable and encourage in The United States. But we know believe it is morally reprehensible. 10,000 years from now, no one is going to care if someone was gay or care about your prejudicial and discriminatory views. Papal infallibility is an example of another ridiculous Catholic belief, or the wine and bread turning into the actual, true, worldly blood and body of Christ.
capitanzach 2 months ago
@capitanzach
What you just said is quite self-defeating for three reasons: it commits the gambler's fallacy, it commits the historians fallacy, and if people years from now still think being gay is wrong, then time would not be on your side.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
I know there are probably more intelligent and prudent Catholics out there who knew that it wouldn't be a good idea to go toe to toe with anyone pro-gay on this video but you two guys missed the memo I guess.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
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Leviticus 19:16-18 'You shall not go about as a slanderer among your people, and you are not to act against the life of your neighbor; I am the LORD. You shall not hate your fellow countryman in your heart; You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the sons of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself; I am the LORD." Read your bible and stop picking and choosing...
TheNolo73 2 months ago
Catholics+Jesus=Water+Oil. If your a Gay,Lesbian,Bisexual,Transgender youth, and believe in God and Jesus,the Mennonites and Presbyterians(off the top of my head) accept you and also follow Christ.Listen to this Jesuit Catholic Priest for the positives of his message and then go to a religion that doesn't condemn you and will support you in actually being like Christ instead of judging like him.I have videos of other religions and a subscription to a Mennonite Church you can contact for info.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
I find it pathetic and frankly tragic that this catholic priest comes on to an anti-suicide (which is an automatic go to hell sin)video for children being bullied in school(for being GLBT which is another go to hell and/or be killed in real life cause it's a sin) and other catholics come here and post that they are not accepted by god and this priest is wrong.What a religion.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 If it's not in your in interest to get "married" in the Catholic Church, why the fuck are we even talking about it? Let the State marry you and your partner, don't meddle with the Church.
The Pope has publicly denounced pedophilia, and stated that any member of the clergy who commited this crime should be dealt with by secular law. If he has protected pedophiles, he's going against Church dogma.
cashernandes1 2 months ago
@cashernandes1 Go to a pro-catholic video and debate on your catholic issues and stop commenting on an anti-suicide and anti-bullying video for homosexual kids.No one who watches this videos even cares about the Church.It's not always about you people.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Then it should come as no surprise to you then we don't care for anything said in this video. As a priest, Fr Martin should be doing his job and turning gays AWAY from their sinful lifestyles, not encouraging it.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman If you don't care for anything said in this video then you are deliberately using your statements to hurt those who view it.You know it's directed at gay kids and intended to give them the finger.Catholics+Jesus=Water+Oil.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 Apparently, you care about catholic issues, otherwise you wouldn't have made various replies on the subject (and being refuted every single time).
This actually HAS to do with the Catholic Church, since this heretical priest (as opposed to a random guy) who wants to pass for Catholic is going against Catholic dogma.
cashernandes1 2 months ago
@cashernandes1 No apparently I noticed the negative comments here about gays and lesbians and against this priest in particular that made me respond.Why don't you go back to all the comments,yours included and read them before you post.When I see bull crap on here I'm not going to just leave it alone for others to see.I see that you continue with your discussion on Catholic issues about this priest and don't care about the message he was trying to convey to the intended audience.Idiot.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 What negative comments have I made about homosexuality?
You, however, have made plenty of negative comments about the Catholic Church and I haven't complained at all.
cashernandes1 2 months ago
@cashernandes1 I should have expected that you would either be lazy or would think that I wouldn't copy and paste your responses.I have made truthful comments about Catholics by the way.Mr.Trilliondollarman saying they are not true doesn't make it so.I give what I get when it comes to insults to me and to gays and lesbians so don't dish it out if you can't take it.Look above for the comments I copied of yours of which I responded.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
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@TheNolo73 Cash-No, you don't understand. Anyone from the clergy who suports homosexuality is AUTOMATICALLY excommunicated from the Church, according to the Vatican. A grant is not needed. What is needed though (to come back to the Church) is that the Pope lift thouse excommunications himself. So it's the other way around in fact. Supporting communism, abortion, etc, also results in automatic excommunications.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
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@TheNolo73 Cash-"support of pedophiles"? The Pope has publicly condemned pedophilia, as well as other aberrations. The Church has never accepted it. It is true, though, that some members of the clergy have commited this crime. But in doing so they were DISOBEYING the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church, not the other way around. They should be judged both by ecclesiastical and secular law.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
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@TheNolo73 Cash-If gay people want to get married, for instance, let the State marry them. To desire gay marriage in a CATHOLIC Church is heresy, and this priest is a heretic.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
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@TheNolo73 Cash- What kind of "rights" would a Catholic priest be denying to a homossexual by condemning homosexuality? That homosexuality is a sin is Catholic DOGMA. If you don't believe it's a sin, then you're not Catholic, as simple as that. If you don't believe it's a sin and call yourself Catholic, you're a heretic. Some things, like defending homosexual behavior, renders automatic excommunications from the Church. This priest, for instance, only pretends it's not so.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 Cash-So no-one is benefiting pedophiles in the NAME of the Roman Church, quite the contrary.
Plus, I never said that being gay gets you excommunicated from the Church. I said that members of the CLERGY who publicly support homosexuality get automatically excommunicated.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@cashernandes1 All these comments you made either condemns this priest, denies the culpability of the church of pedophiles, calls gay marriage heresy,calls gays and lesbians a sin.All are negative comments about homosexuality and to this priest.They are also complaints to me about the Catholic Church.Fail.Here we go again having talking points about Catholics when this video was intended to save children from bullying and suicide.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 So no-one is benefiting pedophiles in the NAME of the Roman Church, quite the contrary.
Plus, I never said that being gay gets you excommunicated from the Church. I said that members of the CLERGY who publicly support homosexuality get automatically excommunicated.
cashernandes1 2 months ago
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@cashernandes1 I find it pathetic and frankly tragic that this catholic priest comes on to an anti-suicide (which is an automatic go to hell sin)video for children being bullied in school(for being GLBT which is another go to hell and/or be killed in real life cause it's a sin) and other catholics come here and post that they are not accepted by god and this priest is wrong.What a religion.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Reports of gays being bullied in schools is grossly exaggerated. More kids are bullied for being overweight than being gay. Your grasp of the Bible is pathetic and your willingness to jump on bandwagons with no basis in fact is just sad.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Ah shut up man.You've already proven by past statements how you post your opinions as facts without evidence.You think people will take your comments as fact? You also show that it will take a lot of casualties to sway your view as to the crimes against anyone the Church or bullies commit.You are Catholic's pet and the fact that you sent me a private message with your sources and they were all Catholic websites prove it and also proves that you know others won't buy them.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
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Mr.TrillionDollarman-I wonder what makes atheists think posting on my profile will end any better than their discussions with me for them.
TheNolo73-You blocked me then and now and I'm not a coward.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
Well, time to babysit my non religious nephew for today.Bu bye!
TheNolo73 2 months ago
If you don't want the accusations and criticisms thrown your way,get out of politics and keep you religion to your followers.The time has past when religion is necessary now there are civilizations, so it is now a choice to be part of it.The 1% of gays lesbians bisexuals and transgender(according to the expert Mr.Trilliondollarman) is all it takes to move forward against any one god religion religions out there that fight against us.we will have our equal rights and God still loves us if we care
TheNolo73 2 months ago
Perry,running for president uses gay and lesbian solders as a negative to being american and true Christians, the bachmans uses religion to cause damage to gays and lesbians using reversion therapy, and they all use the Bible to try and change the constitution itself.I am tired of a religion among many changing and rejecting Americans to their books values that they themselves don't adhere to.You guys can't come together in peace, decide on one Bible to follow and follow it, and don't release
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 @TheNolo73 those who want to get out of you religion like me.It does not matter what new policies you place when they aren't enforced and you still use the Bible to condemn the new minority, the GLBT community. Just use Google and look for yourself all the different newspapers following the pedophile cases in catholic religion today.Salvation Army is a christian organization that uses their charity to negatively force their local governments to act against another minority,gays.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
I don't respond anymore directly to Mr.Trilliondollarman because he just says not true,those responsible were watered down catholic,still catholics by the way,and just calls me an atheist because I reject his religion.He won't take any independent resources to even look into it and claims he is an authority of Catholicism just by virtue of saying they are false and not looking into them himself.I get tired of his bullshit just like those who are tired of religion and choose to be spiritual.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 @TheNolo73 Being arrogant and looking down at others who even question what catholics and christians actually did and how they are actually using in their bible today wont make you any more fans of your religion.You can just keep closing your eyes while your pews remain empty and you close more and more churches.Ratzinger,a former member of the Nazi youth right? Hides his men till this day and the kids who are the most innocent didn't get the Bible used on them in their favor.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
Now that a Catholic Priest and quite a few of them are actually using the Bible to include and forgive gays lesbians bisexuals and transgender, the same thing is happening again with the majority of catholics using it to condemn and reject them from church and influencing the government to reject them from society.There was always a chance for catholics to repent and it always took people in society to finally change their minds.Catholics and Christians included but not because they were.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 @TheNolo73 They were human beings who just saw past the BS religion kept pushing on them.There are more and more spiritual,not religious people and agnostics and atheists in society because of religion.You don't need it to have God like you need politicians for the government to run so people just leave or choose not to join.You are counted as catholic by your Baptism and it takes forever t get out of the religion so numbers are inflated in regards to how many true catholics there are
TheNolo73 2 months ago
What did the pedophile catholic priests use from the Bible to reason with themselves how it was ok to do what they did to those kids in thier care.Why does it matter that only 5% were responsible? Especially when they didn't recieve thier punishments from thier governments and are protected to this day?Passages in the Bible that were still used in the past are still there today,said differently in the many version all still used and available today.Women still can't be Pope.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 @TheNolo73 You are to be pro life but can't use protection to prevent a pregnancy.You must not be promiscuous but be fruitful and multiply.They don't police adultery,promiscuity,or divorce with the same zeal that they do with those who aren't of their faith.You can divorce as a catholic when divorce is not part of marriage in the Bible,read it.Part of the 5% of that abused innocent victims include 200 deaf boys which to me would seem plenty.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
What I posted of my comments has truth in all of them.From the first of them on trying to get out of the religion,to how the Bible was used against the minorities in the past up until now,to Catholics and Christians always pointing the condemning finger at those outside the church while deflecting their evil actions and not taking responsibility.To further and keep alive their religion and to protect themselves.I put in statements deliberately to prove deflection in just Mr.Trilliondollarman
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 @TheNolo73 , a religious person's lame ability at deflection himself.No sources has he cited,he has none or too lazy to post,rejection of the ones that I got just from google and another person's personal research about the Bible and has a whole website on it.He does what the Church does,ssay people just don't understand or say it's just not true when the point is those in the chatholic religion are the ones who didn't understand and used it for evil in the past as in the future.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
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blame Google not me on where I get my resources from man.Are you saying Google actually picks newspapers with atheists points of view and places them first on the search pages? Just google pedophilia in the Catholic Church yourself and read the updates.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 How many Catholics are there in the world? 1 Billion? What's 5% of that?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
That doesn't follow. 5% is talking about all the priests in the world.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Anyone who is captured will be run through with a sword. Their little children will be dashed to death right before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked and their wives raped by the attacking hordes. For I will stir up the Medes against Babylon, and no amount of silver or gold will buy them off. The attacking armies will shoot down the young people with arrows. They will have no mercy on helpless babies and will show no compassion for the children. Isaiah 13:15-18
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 How many Priests are there in the world? What's 5%? Are they watered down too? Don't they count anyway as they aren't excommunicated?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Not counting bishops and taking out those over 80, we are then left with 410, 593. But wait: this is still the issue of whether any of them lied about being gay. That then shrinks to the number of bad priests to only 300 across the world.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
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@MrTrilliondollarman I just read Ezekiel 23 again. It was so horrible that it made dime store romance books look like a Douglas Adams novel. It was nothing but pornographic rubbish. I wish I hadn't read it, for now I will surely have nightmares about Yawheh making women cut their breasts off before having them stoned to death. I would definitely not recommend this book. Two out of five stars.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
And yet another tactic you suck at...
Isaiah is talking about the destruction of Babylon, not issuing a universal teaching.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman So the destruction of a city is ok?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
So your ass-backwards take on Scripture should count for what besides jack and shit?
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Ezekiel 23:20
New Living Translation (NLT)
20 She lusted after lovers with genitals as large as a donkey’s and emissions like those of a horse.
Disgusting.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
too bad for you that's not what it really says.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Hosea 13:16
New Living Translation (NLT) 16 The people of Samaria must bear the consequences of their guilt because they rebelled against their God. They will be killed by an invading army, their little ones dashed to death against the ground, their pregnant women ripped open by swords.”
Baby Killing 101
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Hosea 13 doesn't have a 16th verse.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman It's one of those MANY Versions you all can't agree on.Why should I take your word for it?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Because you lied in saying Hosea 13 has 16 verses. It does not; it only goes to 15.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Hosea 13:16
New King James Version (NKJV)
16 Samaria is held guilty,[a] For she has rebelled against her God. They shall fall by the sword, Their infants shall be dashed in pieces, And their women with child ripped open.
How's this version?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Nope...not an accurate translation.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman 1 Samuel 15:3
New King James Version (NKJV)
3 Now go and attack Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and do not spare them. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
A common warfare tactic at the time, but again, no universal teaching stated here.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman A New Bible Pro-Gay people are Actually Selling. Downloads for free.Holy Bible with God's New Law Commercial YouTube the video.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
That version is a sham, not based on the Dead Sea Scrolls.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Ah That version.lol
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Exodus 12:29
King James Version (KJV) 29And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. King James anyone?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
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@MrTrilliondollarman Dude they even had the ten commandments on television every christmas with the killing of every first born showing like an action movie scene with charlton heston.Come on now.Can't forget those special effects.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman How about the scene where Yul Bryner played Ramses and was about to lose his firstborn unless he released Moses people? Cool huh?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Or how about the parting of the Red Sea? That was awesome!!
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Yeah and all those Romans drowning by God's Hands! Wow man!
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
And those Hebrews tasting freedom for the first time!!
Also, I'm sure there are no Romans in the Ten Commandments.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Sorry whatever those people were that were murdered by god.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Or...the punishment they had coming given their practices.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Yeah! Kill em all! God's done that too huh?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
More like 19 hijackers following a false perversion of Christianity.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Come on now! You don't read the papers following 9/11? You had religious leaders immediately telling people not to hurt Muslims and Muslims reporting abuse against them.You have a short memory.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Because it was Islam that inspired those attacks. Islam is just a perversion of Christianity...nothing more.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman They say what Catholics say.It's people misinterpreting what Thier holy book really means.Sounds Familiar?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Not really. Islams perverted Christianity. Five prayers a day? That's clearly ripping off the Liturgy of the Hours.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman I've seen Egyptian statues of a mother holding her child the same way Mary held Jesus.What was that piece of art called? Recycled religion I think.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Except that notion was dismissed for lack of solid fact.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 Ah yes it was Isis that was portrayed posing the same way Mary was remember?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Wrong. There are no similarities between the two. Again, the notion is not held as valid by people with their head on straight...a group that doesn't include you.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Dude, google isis holding child in images and see for yourself.Jesus! You guys! lol
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
I have...there are no similarities. They aren't even doing the same thing. Quit touting crap, idiot.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman It looks like the only people that are valid to you are Catholics!
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Why not? It is the Church founded by Christ. Can't get better than that.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman *Yawn* Great Debate. Hey just post your denials here and I'll check on them tomorrow.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Or I can put articles refuting everything you just said, starting with...why comparing Isis to the Virgin Mary just doesn't work.
You suck at this.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman What effect does teaching these kinds of stories have on kids? I wonder if they've done studies on that.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
They have...they found the child is more well adjusted and can better determine right from wrong.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman You're very blase about your holy book man.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
You are very ignorant about how literature works.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Now it's literature,then it was used to teach and as control over people.2000 years of Bullshit Mr.TrilliondollarMan.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Where your idiocy at not being able to determine literary devices will be exposed for others to laugh at...
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman These are just what your religion teaches to the masses. People not even of the faith.From the extreme to the hilarious.That's why Santa is the most popular figure on Christmas!
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Santa is a result of Consume-Us, not Christmas. St Nicholas of Myra is much better.
Your idiocy is the reason atheists keep failing...they don't stop at not understanding; they don't even bother to understand.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Your followers don't understand nor bother to follow your religion until they need it to feed their hate.Haven't you noticed that.You guys are more like satan than jesus.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Not even close. When a disaster happens like 9-11, I don't recall anyone asking for Satan. I saw people go to churches in droves, shocked that their view of the world no longer made any sense and seeking a new way to look at things.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman And immediately wanting revenge against Islam.When That terrorist got killed Osama? Boy were there cheers from Christians.Peaceful Jesus Christians.People always go to God when scared or when they are guilty.They don't stay true in good times.Always getting forgiveness and converting after they commit all those sins.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Those were from those who lost loved ones in 9-11. He was a war criminal who showed no remorse for what he did. People go to God for guidance and wisdom. Even psychologists are realizing the principles found in the Bible.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Catholicism needs a makeover man.Too much cover ups and no responsibility for it's actions.Then totally there when they want to condemn others and use the Bible for it.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
It needs to change nothing, except in calling for another Inquisition. Atheists need to sit down and stop saying anything.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman lol Inquisition.A lot of you say it was a mistake and now you're for it? Hate when people talk huh? You guys should just hole up in your houses and stop preaching what you yourselves don't practice.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
No one says it was a mistake, except those who don't understand it in the first place. You should go back to school since you don't know much of anything. Be sure it's a catholic university so you'll actually learn something.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Eww! A brainwashing school? You kidding?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Heaven forbid you actually learn something, right?
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Heaven Forbid is right!
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
So you hate learning, then? No surprise there.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman So many find Christ in Jail it's laughable.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Except for the fact, living with Jesus doesn't put people in jail in the first place...unless they live in a communist regime.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Isn't it against the Bible to worship idols? What's with the Saints? Statues of them, praying to them.They're just people.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Those aren't idols. Rather, they are aids in worship, much like the animal statues in Solomon's temple.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Yeah, more excuses.Tell that to God when you face him.lol
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Yeah, more crap from you. Outside the Church there is no salvation.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Now a days there's more places better than religion to go to for guidance and help without strings attached.If the place you go to is corrupt it gets shut down where as the church runs forever no matter what.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Not true. Demographics say most Episcopal churches will be gone within the next few years because no one comes to them anymore.
Then again, mental health experts tout the benefits of religion from overcoming addictions to conquering self-doubt.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman The same mental health experts you guys condemn for saying homosexuality is not a mental health condition? Weird to see a Catholic cite mental health experts.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Except for the fact the exclusion of homosexuality from mental health problems was based more on politics than actual science.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Ah another excuse.No based on science than religion you mean.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
More like solid fact. Its removal was based on politics, not actual science.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman For a group of people representing just one percent of americans we kick your Catholics ass in everything huh?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
More like you get whooped every time you open your mouth, and you can get very nasty too.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
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@MrTrilliondollarman For a group of people representing just one percent of americans we kick your Catholics ass in everything huh? Ass is nasty?I didn't start the name calling,read your past posts. I had to repeat.lol
TheNolo73 2 months ago
Hey Mr.Trilliodollarman, 10% of Americans are GLBT.That's about 30 million.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Wrong again. That 10% is based on a false conclusion by that famous hack. The real percentage of gays is probably no more than 1%.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman You close your eyes to pedophilia so it's not surprising you'd close your eyes on this too.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
No...you just don't give a shit about children being molested and care a lot more about making Catholicism look bad.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman I don't even have to try.I just Google.What you feel is ashamed not angry.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
So you're lazy and don't want to think hard then...
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
Kids Mr.Triiliondollarman. There shouldn't have been even one.5% is horrible.I hate being a Catholic.I don't even mention it when asked.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
You should be embracing it...knowing full well the accusations against the Church are false and misleading. Also, there should not have been any Apostles that betrayed Christ but 1 out of 12 did.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
Only 5%, like that excuses the molestation? You minimize the abuse cause to the 5% by repeatedly stating this.So what 5%?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Considering the other 95% do not have ANY accusations against them? I'd say focusing on the 5% is completely dishonest.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
Mr.Trilliondollarman lol you are not the only one who reads these posts Mr. Explain it away.Your debating skills can't match just plain facts.Especially when you don't even bother to counter any article I post right off Google.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Looks like I have refuted all of them and did present facts such as that government study you refuse to look at.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
B i s h o p A c c o u n t i b i l i t y d o t O r g Updated on dec. 9 2011 Documents on church administration and the abuse crisis, including major collections of diocesan and investigative files
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Which again has no perspective to it.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@TheNolo73 On this site there are also affidavits from the abused.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Still doesn't take away anything I said.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
I see you've blocked me. I hope these news paper sites on all these cases concerning pedophilia in the catholic church makes you think more clearly.Please stop explaining away the responsibility the church has.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Nope. They all go right in the trash because each one has no sense of perspective. Please stop touting the same crap over and over.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
James Martin likes to use humor in his sermons.It's like saying yeah I know we did what we did in the past but look at me I can make it funny!
TheNolo73 2 months ago
Death for Adultery If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death. (Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
I'll give you this one in case you find the first quotes too hard for you to explain.Why isn't this done anymore?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Again, you are looking at it with a modernist mentality.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman You know when you say modernist mentality, it's just a compliment on my thinking and a negative to past religious leaders thinking and actions so thank you.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
You should be ashamed rehashing a notion that didn't work the first time it was used. It was never a compliment at any point in history.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman I should be shamed of making a compliment but you're not ashamed you catholics? You are not qualified to judge me.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
Sure I am...the number of priests who were guilty amounted to at best 5% of all priests, most likely in areas trying their best to water down the faith.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman Who's watering down?
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
That would be you, idiot.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
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@MrTrilliondollarman This site helps readers understand this complicated story by organizing the vast amount of material into categories; enhancing it with audio, video, message boards, and photo galleries, and making thousands of pages of depositions, letters, and internal Catholic Church documents -- original source material -- available for readers to peruse.
boston com globe spotlight abuse about htm
Lucy, you got some splaining to do! Pedophiles!
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman The leaders of your church should tell it's followers not to go on comment posts and pretend to be experts on their religion.Followers follow what they are preached and never question.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
That would come as a surprise to people like Edith Stein or GK Chesterton or John Henry Newman.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT) This is some in slavery.I'll give you time on explaining why telling ME the correct way to interpret these has anything to do with how it was interpreted in the past for slavery and carried out.
TheNolo73 2 months ago
@TheNolo73
this is just taken out of context.
MrTrilliondollarman 2 months ago
@MrTrilliondollarman The Whole Bible has never been taken into context when being used on people.What's your point?Because mine is that your book doesn't matter when it's used for selfish and evil purposes as it has been used in the past and is now in the present.
TheNolo73 2 months ago