Geocentricity - Bowden replies to Andromedaswake."

[bartsutra]

You fail to comprehend the Doppler Effect. You can easily change wave length (color) without changing the speed of the wave. ie The speed of light always appears the same speed to an observer, but the wave length might be altered. This is the simplest scientific concept you covered, and it was FAR FAR beyond your comprehension. How do you think you did with the other more complicated concepts, and experiments?

[flatterearth]

It's about time people begin to wake up and see that the world is not jetting around the sun at 67,000 mph! How stupid is that! Where is evidence of all that commotion? How does our atmosphere withstand a 67,000 mph onslaught of elements of "space"? The entire world is brainwashed.

[gr8vibes2]

@flatterearth How about splitting the difference with an rotating centered earth? That's my current findings.

[gr8vibes2]

Do you truly believe the earth is flat? If so how do you explain a full moon at midnight?

[bacchusreborn]

UMMM just a note, it was not an ad hominem used against you. Just a debunking with a few insults (VERY weak ones at that) thrown in. HOWEVER you seemed to use the as hominem rather liberally and i detect ALOT of projection going on..... shameful.

[dubvishun]

kinda like if satan admits who he is while tellin u the actual real salvation truth straight out.{& he happens 2b tellin the truth}..the real truth...evidence supporting it everything seems perfectly easy to see & how he spellbound all preachers to teach error but he tells similarities with other things which makes it so obvious hes accurate,,ya feel hes right..{& he really is} but u just aint gonna make it to heaven for sure now cause of the source ={calvinism discredits}

[dubvishun]

if yt existed way back when Geocentricity was "fact" wonder if those hateful peoples posts would hate anyone who claimed the opposite then...somethin to notice is those who believe Geocentricity teach calvinstic error {exception of r gentry=sda error}..while eric jon phelps exposes the s.o.j. believes Geocentricity yet assertive in the error of predestination. this discernment discredits evidence of Geocentricity regardless of how logical it seems cause of the mouths who speek it.

[LoopQuantumGravity1]

1) Kepler using Brahe's data showed planets (including earth) orbit the sun.

2) Newton confirmed this with the law of universal gravitation.

3) Bradley determined earth's speed in its orbit around the sun using aberration of starlight.

4). Using earth's motion around the sun, Bessel measured stellar parallax.

5). There is NO ETHER as demonstrated by the null results of Michaelson and Morley and beautifully explained by Einstein's theory of special relativity.

I teach astronomy and you're wrong.

[LoopQuantumGravity1]

This old man is a liar who understands NOTHING about astronomy and frankly he should just

STFU!

[randallvance]

Also, anyone who has to resort to name calling and mockery in a scientific debate loses all credibility

[randallvance]

NASA tells us what we should believe as fact and expects us all to accept because they say so. Without letting anyone use their equipment, or sharing PROOF of what they state as fact. I have a general rule when deciding what IS and whats NOT credible. If the source throws out ideas and numbers, then shrouds us in the dark as to HOW they come to their conclusions and doesn't share equipment so expensive and restricted no one outside of government can ever use them; why don't we question them?

[yodeboubtripin]

@randallvance call any science teacher or e-mail NASA, they will be glad to show you proof of how the earth revoles around the sun. You are paranoid, no one is hiding anything a simple google search would show that. Please care about the truth before claiming to know it.

[randallvance]

@yodeboubtripin I never claimed to know the truth about this matter. I simply stated my concerns with blind faith in a government agency who doesn't always tell the truth. The fact of the matter is neither one of us can prove either theory, unless you'd like to post a link to CREDIBLE EVIDENCE I'd be happy to read it.

[LoopQuantumGravity1]

Knowledge of BASIC astronomy, available to any high-school student, has NOTHING to do with believing NASA, Obama, or anyone else in govt. Please take your paranoia elsewhere.

[croxleylad]

You have no case. You are a fool.

You invent this 'ether' and then prove that we are not moving through it. You are so retarded you won't accept that the reason we are not moving through your imaginary ether is that it doesn't exist.

[pontecanis]

Too bad Bowden didn't pay more attention to his model. He has converted our solar system into a binary sytem where Mercury and Venus orbit the sun, which as a system orbits the Earth. This requires at LEAST one solar transit by each planet per day, if not more. Do you see Mercury and Venus crossing the sun each day? No one else does either ! BAD SCIENCE!!!!

[TheLizardPeople]

@pontecanis Does this mean it is an epicyclic fail ?? Peace bro...

[bradkhall]

Bowden doesn't seem to quite get it. It's not that the earth moves (or doesn't move) through the ether, it's that the ether doesn't exist!

[terencenz]

Stupid old fool. get a telescope and actully look at the fringin sky and make some observations.

[blehblehbleh86]

Wow. There are still geocentrists? The Bible has a lot to answer for, if it can turn otherwise intelligent people into gibbering fools like this Bowden guy. What a crazy guy. Mr. Bowden, you are lost.

[SundayScientist]

Nice reply! Keep up the good work! Thanks for posting!

[zzlgrant]

The earth never moves and the stars are pin pricks in the sky letting in gods light and the rain occurs when god cries......What a moron. I thought this guy was a fool before I saw this video, now I am convinced that he is probably insane.

[tzephon]

I guess you didn't catch that part about Ad Hominem at the beginning of the video.

[zzlgrant]

sure I did. People only cry "ad hominem" when they are losing an argument. And it isnt ad hominem if it is true. This guy realy is a nut job. Simple truth, nothing offensive about it implied or otherwise.

[tzephon]

It would seem that people cry "ad hominem" when they are the recipient of Ad Hominem. Why not explain the error of his argument rather than attacking the man?

[irun26mi]

Whether or not this guy is a nut job is irrelevant to the info presented. Unless you can personally debunk the info, then nothing you say has any significance to the issues addressed. If you are basing your decision on the majority opionion then why not become a Muslim?

[zzlgrant]

Fine. If Geocentricity is correct then copernicum astronomy, newtonian physics, relativity, gravity, partical physics and neuclear physics are all wrong. If that is the case then the atomic bomb would not explode, neuclear power stations would not run, the sun would not emmit light, there would be no seasons. Gravity could not possibly have a constant speed related to the mass of the parent object. Satelites would not orbit the globe and your cell phone would not work......

[zzlgrant]

Lasers could never have been invented and medical science would be at least 50 years behind where it is today. The utter incomprehensible stupidity of the geocentric idea when coupled with modern knowledge and understanding of the intricate interrelation of soo many scientific fields is mind boggling. This man would have civilisation head back to the middle ages. His ideas are dangerous and ill informed.

[zzlgrant]

Become a muslim??? I am a secular humanist good sir. I make decisions based on good solid fact backed up by the research of thousands, peer reviewed and reinforced by subsequent data. I dont cherry pick snippets to support a pre concieved ideal. To do so is morrally bankrupt.

[SofaKingLoaded]

Not to mention the VERY ANTITHESIS of the Scientific Method that these disingenuous, academically anemic cretins boldly and mendaciously claim to embrace..

Factual information and reasonable arguments are the ultimate exercise in futility in reality denying videos of this ilk..

They can't even hear you from way back in 1379..

[zzlgrant]

sounds like you haven't read a scientific journal scince 1969 either.

[zzlgrant]

Quoting wikkipedia is not iven allowed in my high school sons assignments. To use it to go against a renound and highly qualifies astronomy lecturer seems a little childish. This crazy cook needs to read some of the scientific text of say the last 50 years and stop putting his fingers in his ears and screaming "la la la la".

[SounzNice]

Good video. Thanks.