Israel's wall divides Arab East Jerusalem - 21 Jul 07

[PalestinePeaceOfShit]

Ramadan Abdullah Mohammad Shallah

FBI most wanted terrorist

Leader of Palestinian Islamic Jihad

"the separation barrier "limits the ability of the resistance to arrive deep within [Israeli territory] to carry out suicide bombing attacks , but the resistance has not surrendered or become helpless, and is looking for other ways to cope with the requirements of every stage" of the intifada"

[jbarks10]

Mark Regev, you're a puppet for fraud and a proper CUNT.

[chugger2hotty]

nice wall just like belfast lol

[TotalWarrior87]

From looking at it in a neutral light, Israel should not exist in the first place and it's partly my fault as a englishman that it exists. Zionism is the new nazism. We should have never signed the Balflour declaration in 1917, we were bought and an innocent people are now suffering. Israel claims to be peaceful yet it claims to be of chosen people and wishes to gain more living space. Sounds familiar. We're going have to deal with the monster we've creted sooner or later.

[michaeldavidprophet]

i guess the effects of suicide bombers are more than dead bodies every where, the living also pays a steep price. Why wont the terrorist stop trying to kill ISRAELis at school bus stops and coffee shops? Don't they know it will make a country do crazy things like build a wall.

[patientperson]

I guess once the you steal somethng you have to protect it, just incase the owner might want it back...

[cil1976]

That wall is protecting my family! The live with 6 million people in a country surrounded bij billions of Muslims! What are those countries doing to this small ccountry? If there was no USA, the arabs would have cleansed Israel from jews already! This is not what israel is working on. The only country where all minorities have the right to vote and be politically active!

[joetheguy55]

A man resorts to insults when he has no reply to an argument should not be considered an intelligent man. Have a good day.

[joetheguy55]

(The Palestinians are also free to set up checkpoints on their own side of the the border to restrict the movement of Israeli extremists)

[Mahdiarmy]

The Talmud in tractate Kesubos, p. 111a, says that when the Jewish people went into exile, G-d made them swear not to go up to the Holy Land as a group (en mass) and not to force the end of exile to come. This is a specific prohibition against what the Zionists did: coming to the Holy Land in large numbers, creating a state, and gathering in the Jewish exiles, something which traditionally would mark the end of exile. From Rabbi Hersh Lowenthal at Jews Against Zionism

[romanerdstrom]

I've done some research on what the Jewish opinion is on the end of the exile. The exile can only end when the Messiah comes. So what Jews did is simply created a secular Jewish (ethnic, not necessarily Orthodoxically religious) state as a western style democracy, and not the constitutional monarchy the bible refers to. Thus, the exile isn't really over.

[Mahdiarmy]

i end my debate here, more with such young kid i will rather hit my head with a stone. i dont like to learn young people. they always have seem to oppose or have another view with zero knowlodge. But you learn me something here. NEVER DEBATE WITH ANYONE 1 year younger than me. When i hear something big, i listen, i research then i come back at lest 1 week and say my words against or for. thank you and wasalamo alejkom

[luxcretia2]

age makes no wiser and/or mature!!!you should know that

[Mahdiarmy]

age does make a good point here. not in the real life but here in youtube. well i have learned my lesson and i will not do it again. by the way just see how old that joetheguy (Mr: stupid) is

[luxcretia2]

like me!

[luxcretia2]

or to make it more comprehensible:

a 70-year old person might be less wise and/or mature than some 20-year old one.or not wise at all.you may become more experienced, but even if some people might be decades older than a 20-year old they might be way not that wise.

[romanerdstrom]

Can I ask, from what country are you?

[romanerdstrom]

As-Salamu Alaykum

When discussing Israel, please remember

"And when Musa said to his people: O my people! remember the favor of Allah upon you when He raised prophets among you and made you kings and gave you what He had not given to any other among the nations. O my people! enter the holy land which Allah has prescribed for you and turn not on your backs for then you will turn back losers." 5:20

[Mahdiarmy]

We are NOT talking about the Children of Israel, May God bless them all. Israel is a NAME, can u get it??? the state however is made by MAN, and the man is called Zionism. Zionism has everything evil in it, and the rulers of this is A war people who has hjjiacked JUDISM and the TRUE TORAH. they even put star of David when REAL JEW DO NOT ACCEPT A SYMBOL. it is forbidden by the God´s first LAW. Even muslims has been brainwashed by the khazar jewish media, what a shame

[romanerdstrom]

If so, then Zionism is to Judaism as Islamism is to Islam. Islamists have hijacked Islam and turned what they believe into a violent, racist, death cult. That's not Islam, that's no way Islam.

[Mahdiarmy]

what a shame. I am Islamist, I follow Islam. Do you know who call Islam evil, so the word islamist has been so evil for the western world ears? Now search every COMPANY Media in USA you will see the president or owners to be guess what a Khazar jew? Usa stands united with Satan, but you dont get it, you dont see the symbols and the.

[romanerdstrom]

Islamism (or political Islam) has nothing to do with religion. It's political. Normally there's no problem with it, people can have whatever political opinions they want, but when it becomes radical and gets divorced from humanity, let alone from the religion itself then I am worried.

[luxcretia2]

what do you call Muslim and what do you call an Islamist?

[Mahdiarmy]

Do you wanna know what i really dont like? i saw it after i visit ur room. WHen a young kid(you 18) from some rathole in the Free Masonic Satanic land(you USA)is giving ME info in the Holy Quran. You seem to like nude wrestlings or half nude or what you want to call it. Stick to it please, cause something about the fake jews seems harmless for YOU, but later u will see

[romanerdstrom]

First of all, you may not realize this, but I wasn't born in the USA. I was born in Europe. Second of all, what I posted was episodes from a game show. I don't like "half naked wrestlers" or whatever, I just found the game show as something from which I can learn. That's the reason I watch gameshows in the first place, to see if I know the answer to a question and if not, I will learn, whether it's science, math, history, or whatever else (though I don't care about pop culture very much).

[Mahdiarmy]

you still live in usa, but okej whatever and American people are NOT evil or Satanic, it is the rulers. Like Rothchild, Rockerfeller, Levin, etc etc ops all of the are living in the zionist state. But please i beg you to see and learn about the WORLD. IT is very important that people around the world is exposing this evil rulers. As it is predicted in the HOLY TORAH AND THE HOLY BIBLE AND THE HOLY QURAN. THE GOG AND MAGOG IS KHAZAR RUSSIAN PEOPEL, Who callthemself for jews. They are not

[romanerdstrom]

For some reason I view those who say they speak for Islam and then blow up train stations, and fly planes into buildings, and kidnap and behead journalists as slightly more dangerous. If those who call themselves Jews aren't really Jews, then who are the real Jews?

[Mahdiarmy]

ok here is the thing, in your brainwashed world there is such muslim people. 911 was a CIA operation, now the evidence is large but the media is own by israel so its hard for you to understand. please SEE Phd Professor David Ray Griffin, i got many Phd names, see the videos and please explane for me world trade center 7, or the hole without any airplane in penns.

[romanerdstrom]

Ahmad Al-Ruba'i, a former minister in Kuwait, on Al-Arabiya said on 9/11/04, I have the tape as a matter of fact, "The truth is that the Arab mind is blinded by conspiracy theories." When I heard about 9/11 and bin Laden, I thought how could Arabs, how could Muslims do such a thing? Then I looked into their ideology, it has nothing Muslim about it. It has nothing Arab about it. They've abandoned their culture, their faith, and their humanity.

[Mahdiarmy]

My God, this is also pointless to debate with you. Kuwait will do everything to help USA to invade.. so please u listen to him?? millions of american are saying 911 was a false flag operation. its about WORLD DOMINATION. what ever. i know my truth, i hope i burn in hell if i am wrong.. can u say so?

[romanerdstrom]

I don't condemn anyone to hell, ever. I don't believe it is my place to do so, only God decides someone's final fate.

[TotalWarrior87]

I find a nation who has the most UN security sanctions against it but all vetoed by the USA, over 200 illegal nuclear war heads which it produced secretly while saying it wanted a nuclear free middle east and enters countries and steals territory to be more of a threat than a poxy terrorist. With terrorists you need to win hearts and minds but in the mean time strengthen airport security and inteligence forces, with Israel- the start of WW3.

[Mahdiarmy]

it is waste of time. He dont know a single thing,but still he wants so debate, as he has no friends. The media around the western world is ruled by Khazar/zionism what ever u want to call them, but what u will find is that everyone of them is saying that they are the CHOOSEN PEOPLE. they are not, Judism and the true jews has been Hijjacked by this russian people.if u dont read then you will never learn anything. I hope i burn in hell if i am wrong about 911.can u say the same thing?

[TotalWarrior87]

That's correct to a point, if you look at the Balflour declaration of 1917 (Signed by a certain Rothschild) and the fact that the current israeli's are of european descent and have no connection to the ancient Isralites. In fact the zionists were willing to take a part of Germany as compensation for the holocaust but got an even greater prize: Palestine. One must ask themselves why must palestinians suffer for the crimes of germans. Also don't forget the influence of AIPAC who've bought America.

[rezasantorini]

Religion is not verified by DNA...all religions have converts. Even Muslims.

aqiyya is an Islamic practice of Muslims blatantly lying to non-Muslims. Muslims consider the act of Taqiyya or lying to non-Muslims to be a good work.

[Mahdiarmy]

u dont think that the boxtapes would bee very easy to do if they did something big like 911??? come on, see all the evidence of 911. it is there, all truth passes through 3 stages, 1 it is ridiculed 2 it is violently opposed (as u did) then the third it is accepted as self-evident. u will find it, if u got braincells left

[brick4sale]

Leave the 9/11 alone, stay on topic and I'm a she, and I do not like debating conspiracy people; I have to hear so much illuminati shit those debates tire me.

[luxcretia2]

the video stops much to early?

[reekooz]

no wonder Israel is the most raciest nation on earth!

[myapari]

If they're gonna build a way they should do it on their own territory. This has nothing to do with security, simply yet another illegal way of claiming more land.

[Mahdiarmy]

This is very important. The people of israel are not real jews. in fact real jews can not accept israel as a state. These russian warpeople called Khazar and later Ahskenazim converted to judism in 700 ad. They are not real jews, only converted. thats why we dont have a chines jew. True jews are from the tribes of Jakub peace and blessing upon HIM

[brick4sale]

Whatever Mahdiarmy, you guys think the Jews are behind everything.

[Mahdiarmy]

what a stupid young kid you are. and that u dont know anything about the world. and how rules the world. i will help with my soul and body the REAL jew, i will put my life for Him or Her. But the fake jews i wont. NOW i call them jews because they call themself for jews, they are not. they are Russian Khazar. Do you know anything ?

[brick4sale]

Fake Jews, what do mean by that? Are the ones in Iran not Jewish, are the Jews in Poland fake too?

[Mahdiarmy]

the 80 000 jews in Iran are from one of the tribes and later from Esra family tribe.. they are true jews. The jews in Poland is called Ashkenazim, they are converted jews. they are not real. These jews are not from the tribes of Jakub. Judism is not a religion, it is a race. thats why u and i have never seen a Japanise jew or a jew from Kongo. Please read about Khazars and Read ex zionist Benjamin Freedman 1962 speach

[brick4sale]

Well there are Jews in Africa, and frankly I think the eugenic crap you're trying to spew is ill informed I'm not trusting a "ex-Zionist" source, just like if I read about Islam I'm not going to learn it from a Jew.

[Mahdiarmy]

do research and then talk. the jews in Etopien are jews because they say THE TEMPLE OF GOD was moved to Etopien. they are also believers of Jah Jah, another satanic org. YOU Dont research then it is pointless to talk with you. But this is not your fault, it is the mainstream media who has brainwashed you, even moslims have a hard time to get this. Do research on 911 then come to me with ur knowledge. Have a nice day.

[brick4sale]

Now you're saying they are satanic. Jah, Allah=God. See you are nuts 9/11 is because of Jews, no 9/11 was not an inside job, or by Zionist, I don't talk with conspiracy nutcases that get their facts from loose change and La Rouge. I read a wide assortment of medias, from various countries, to political sides, but I don't get facts from loons, and drop college kids that have eaten too many sheets of acid, and drink bong water.

[Mahdiarmy]

ok then it is pointless. When Hitler come the power he did something u know what? when Nero come to the power he did something u know what? when Bush come to the power he did something do u know what? or u think 19 men hijjacked 4 planes with butterknife????? what a stupied little kid you are.

[brick4sale]

No, you are wrong loosen your tin foil hat. You ever heard the black box tape, no you wish to believe in conspiracies, I will not get into another 9/11 debate, no need for childish name calling.

[luxcretia2]

search: zionism vs judaim

or zionism: the real ennemy of the jews

[luxcretia2]

Mahdia is right. Zionism is not judaism by the way.

[brick4sale]

That's not what the arguement was about.

[luxcretia2]

92%Jews from the East namely Poland, Russia etc are Khazars.

[JudeoChristian]

Sorry Al Jazeera, but FENCES DON'T KILL PEOPLE. TERRORISTS KILL PEOPLE. We know what the REAL barrier to peace is.

[brick4sale]

Oh you're just sad; you don't care about Palestinian Christians.

[JudeoChristian]

I think it would be sad if I cared about Palestinian Christians but not Palestinian Muslims.

My point still stands. Walls don't kill people. Terrorists kill people.

[brick4sale]

I think you don't care about Palestinians and my point is that the people of your own religion suffer because of this wall. Walls never work; they always crumble in the end.

[JudeoChristian]

I still don't think it would be right for me to oppose the wall because it negatively affects other Christians.

[McHack35]

Where in the report did AlJazeera say that fences were killing people? And didn't they have an Israeli spokesman making your point? It was a fair report.

[patsagainstrats]

Good fences make good neighbors. Especially when your neighbors are death cultists.

[Oromo101]

Yeah did you hear how israel killed soo many palestinians

[reekooz]

What about bombing civilians with latest weapons technology and claiming that they are nation of peace and democracy! duh a twisted ridiculous mind !

[NekroStevo]

"The U.N's international court calls it Illegal"...and The U.N does nothing.

[dont3car]

they are trying to stop the Muslims from going to The Dome Of The Rock (mosque) hers the plan

1 make it time consuming-less ppl go

2 they will stop certain ppl or only let a fixed number go in

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[dont3car]

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3 force ppl to leave the Jerusalem side ie "one of your family members is a suspected fighter. get out you cant live on this side any more "

4 bring in more settlers. which will harass the others living there till they leave

5 coz some big event were they will say o u see now we have the right to build on the dome of the rock

[phreakoutaston]

Excellent journalism.

[balsam3]

true

[tazdevil696]

sounds like another Berlin wall we have here, its said Please free Palestine

[brick4sale]

Walls only work for a short while, but they eventually fall and fail.

[JusticeFish82]

That's the point. It's meant to be a temporary solution.

[doglin82]

no wall has ever worked..the Great Wall of CHina didn't stop the mongols/huns from invading the mainland...the Berlin Wall never worked....

[JusticeFish82]

The separation wall isn't meant to keep armies out like the Great Wall was. Its there just to make it harder for the lone suicide bomber or random group of militants to enter.

[joetheguy55]

I'm glad that there is a barrier there. Now crazy suicide bombers can not kill civilians.

[luxcretia2]

have you never thought just for a sec at Palestinian civilians?

[joetheguy55]

luxcretia2: Yes, I have thought of the civilians on both sides. The Palestinian civilians are safer with the wall because there is not as much risk of them being caught in crossfire since confrontation between the two sides has now been reduced. A checkpoint is a small price to pay for peace. As you can see, the peace seems to be helping in the West Bank, and for the first time in years, I see the chance of a lasting peace.

[Mahdiarmy]

i have never ever in my life heard something stupid as this comment joetheguy said. Hahhahaha some people has such little brain and they really think they have brain. I will not even try to comment. Does people like you EXIST???? this guy/gay take the price of the most stupid comment on youtube. cheers loser

[luxcretia2]

what kind of peace do you have in mind?Why is the wall not on the green line?Where is the protection of the civilians from Israeli incursions, bombings, land grab, water grab etc etc

[fmm3]

Walls never last for long, remember the great walls of ancient Jerusalem? Or Constantinople or even Berlin? Feel free to add others.

[MaoTzu]

There needs to be one Democratic State in Palestine. Arabs and Jews need to live together in the Palestinian State, no walls no Israel.

[bbproductionsLA]

MaoTzu I like your idea! Don't forget the Christians have a strong history with the holy land, they are mentioned in the Koran. Did you know a Muslim family has run the Church and holds the key to the locks on the door, allowing all of the different sects and denominations to share it and hold mass at different times. That's right, a Muslim opens the locks on the church to hold Christians services ;) End this 50+ years crusade

[k03]

I'd like to know if the wall has been effective in stopping suicide bombings...

[powa2life]

very good question, some stats would be great if anyone can provide some.

[frank1600]

lets start with the facts and not zionist lies. for every jewish person killed by the arabs there are 8 arabs killed by the jews. in the 2nd world war the jews didn't have the courage to fight back...they died. the arabs give the only thing the jews have not taken yet...thier lives. get a brain!

[powa2life]

Agreed 110%. The wall is only fuelling more desperation, frustration and apartheid. It will lead to nothing good. The myth that it will stop suicide bombers is a lie.

[brick4sale]

That is a disputed "fact" it is almost as if you blame them for the Holocaust.

[romanerdstrom]

Consider the tendancy towards the use of human shields by terror groups. "Human Rights Watch's research found that on a number of occasions Hezbollah unjustifiably endangered Lebanese civilians by storing weapons in civilian homes, firing rockets from populated areas, and allowing its fighters to operate from civilian homes. Hezbollah also used children as active combatants, another violation of the law." From HRW

[romanerdstrom]

Also nytimes DOT com/2006/08/25/world/middleeas­t/25sunnis.html?ei=5090&en=8c5­06b51d98e4d2b&ex=1314158400&ad­xnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc­=rss&adxnnlx=1185321635-k41c50­gEvN1QJ0Glj7JUtg

Real Muslims HATE so called "Islamic" terrorism.

[romanerdstrom]

And that includes al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hizbullah, and the so-called "Muslim" Brotherhood among others.