The Natural History of the Chicken part 6/6

[frosthazard00]

pretty good doc

[Germania1911]

That exactly what happened to me. except my silkie chicken was still sleeping early in the morning and the hawk had enough time to kill her and eat part of her neck before my little brother shooed it away.

[cyberWarriorZ]

People who feel sorry for chickens or other animals are the major targets of what this documentary is trying to prove. Only humans feel sorry for other animals. A lion would not hesitate to eat a human if it lacks other options. A tiger would eat what is correct for their diet while doctors are trying vigorously to get humans to eat meat for nutrients. Animal abuse is bad but rejecting our own kind is sad deprivation towards society.

[carebearnmbr46]

Aww! That little Liza is a darling! ^^. Her babies were adorable!

[dathwampeer]

Am I the only one wondering how they choreographed this shit?

This would melt a persons brain if he was on acid.

Bit of a daft documentary though.

[ech1dna]

Some natural history: there are several species of wild chickens in India and Shri Lanka- I'd have preferred to see at least something about them. Imagine a film called 'natural history of parrots' which was all shot in a pet shop.

And WTF is with all the God references? Is the only way to get americans watching documentaries to turn them into sunday school sermons?

[2ndtolastfilms]

why didn't you go out and scare off the hawk idiot?

[BoStevoD]

What an amazing documentary!

[sdpeterson14]

ridiculous

[alienannanaki]

i have birds and would have stopped the attack, but you did not...releasing her spirit to a higher power..next you'll be talking about 12 stepper chickens...it is what it is..bend it the way you see fit but it changes nothing

[SoulReaperKitten]

Wow I'm 14 years old and watching this....what the mom did was epic but I wish the guy would of went outside before to scare the hawk away,My dad has chickens and he just sacred all the hawks away and they all just stop coming so the chickens or all safe. OwO If I was the mom and that was my baby I would have just gotten a baseball bat and beat the shit out of the hawk.

LOLZ

[Planbskate230]

I almost shed a tear of joy when I discovered that the brave chicken had lived.

[rich2244345]

This is the weirdest show I have ever seen. but yet I would watch it again.

[artemis12061966]

Thank you so much for posting this - it is so educational and thought provoking !

[andyswi]

Wonderful wonderful film ! thank you for sharing.

[bthesing]

The mother hawk returned to her nest of young having failed in her role as protector and provider. Her chicks gaped and strained begging for nourishment she was unable to provide; her pride was broken by the incident where she was unable to carry off a tiny defenseless fluffy white prey animal. Spirit broken, she roamed less each day in search of food until finally she starved to death along with her offspring and her genes were not passed on.

Watching up in Heaven God gives Darwin a high five

[tangent272]

I loved the Eliza story and admit I had a tear in my eye at one point.

However, stepping back a bit, I think the guy who wrote the Eliza story is anthropomorphising way too much and that Elizas actions are explained perfectly adequetly by natural instincts.

As for the documentary overall, I think Mr Martinez impressed me the most. I wish I and everyone else could live as idylicly as him and become as wise.

[maximum411]

True- but then again, the love a human mother has for her baby is instinct too. That doesn't make it any less amazing.

[ravenkid33]

this is soo corny, but so good.

[HelloThar9]

I love how that bird is a vulture, not a hawk. At least when they show it flying at first.

[IDmadge]

Yeah, the hands of a higher power was YOU! GO OUTSIDE AND CHASE AWAY THE HAWK!

[AngryPirateProd]

I like the Liza story.

[wvclaylady]

At first, I thought these videos were a bit of a joke, but after watching all of them, I feel differently. They were really interesting. Call me a softy, but Liza's story had me a little teary eyed. :-)

I've always loved to hear chickens, but we don't live in a good place to have any. Hopefully someday!

Oh, and the "chicken plant" was just horrible. I never want to buy those kind of eggs again.

[DerivativesWTF]

Theres no evidence that any of this actually happened. It's a made up movie.

[Makyui]

What? You mean they DIDN'T just happen to have a PBS camera crew there to record a chicken that just HAPPENED to raise babies and survive a hawk attack with dramatic camera angles?

They DIDN'T script the setting and dialogue and create a dramatization of the guy's story, which was written and published before the movie was produced?

Aw man! Next you'll be telling me coyotes don't actually buy Acme products to catch road runners. Man, my view of TV has been totally disillusioned.

[DerivativesWTF]

haha, Makyui, you suck immeasurably. I hope you die real soon

[Makyui]

Wow, talk about an overreaction.

I love you, too. :3

[TB1248]

I hope they cut your head off.

[DerivativesWTF]

that's a vulture not a hawk... haha filmmakers couldn't wait long enough for a hawk to show up

[okiedragonlady2]

It looks like a Harris Hawk and it is not a vulture - vultures have featherless heads so that the nasty things they are willing to eat don't get encrusted in head feathers. Stop the video where you see it on the ground - it does not have a bald, skin showing head.

[DerivativesWTF]

They use different birds in different shots, im talking abotu the first part with the bird soaring, that's a vulture. Presumably the hawks in the other shots are falconers birds

[okiedragonlady2]

I had two geese once - dogs got the one that was the fighter - his name was Ninja - the other goose was probably saved by Ninja who had most of his back torn off and died the next day. The remaining goose identified the dog we shot - he walked around this dog in a circle honking loud and ugly. This goose would step up 3 steps to knock on the door so I would come out and sit with him after his buddy was killed - and he protected me thereafter when I had company I had to hold him.

[Makyui]

Yup, that's definitely a Harris Hawk.

[okiedragonlady2]

nods - sometimes youtube is like talking to sticks - birds are a lot more intelligent than we have been taught - total misnomers Bird Brain and Eats like a Bird. Birds eat like pigs, have incredible eyesight, love their young and mates and the faithful varieties are extremely monogomous. Moe, parrot I own, has a temper, loves to be hugged, prefers polka music to rock or country and uses most language appropriately - when pissed, he states flat out - Here kitty kitty kitty with malice.

[Makyui]

Birds are marvelously intelligent. Well, most bird species are (admittedly, saying that birds are intelligent is about as vague as saying mammals are -- but most vertebrates are advanced enough to be thinking creatures).

Ravens and certain species of parrots (African greys are good examples) are among the most intelligent species on the planet, and even chickens absolutely have their own personalities among breeds and individuals, and have rudimentary language and "morals".

Also quite tasty.

[okiedragonlady2]

I have 6 Red Bourbon turkey chicks, last night one was behaving frightened and neurotic so I swaddled it initially, then covered the entire open container - seems to have calmed it down considerable. I've heard domesticated turkey's fall on the truly stupid end of birdbraindom.  They will get a beautiful, productive life here and I hope are quite tasty too.

[Makyui]

Personally, I think assumptions about turkey intelligence are pretty exaggerated. That they'll watch the rain fall until they drown... I don't believe it.

I've never raised turkeys, though, so I couldn't honestly say for sure. But I do know wild turkeys are certainly no dodos when it comes to survival and avoiding being hunted.

[okiedragonlady2]

Wild turkeys smart, tame not so much. Hubby raised them as a kid - they will pile up in fear so deep the ones on bottom die from suffocation. The big whites are so domesticated and dumb - they can't even copulate - artificial insemination. Too much hormones/feed to get them fat. My babies will raise babies. David said they will drown but then I got to pet a female wild turkey cuz she took my call as being a male - 3 times. She had been raised around us but was a real live wild bird.

[Makyui]

Huh... Pretty interesting, that.

Chicken babies will do that sometimes (we had a problem with that for a while, because the setup was limited and I could only use one light), but... I see what you mean, with the adults.

[okiedragonlady2]

Just remember we have abused a lot of farm animals in our history - feeding cattle ground up cows was a monstrous act. We still have feed that includes chicken feathers, etc. Packing any kind of animal into tight quarters, keeping lights on and feeding constantly, cutting beaks off so they don't peck thru the food but just consume. The dumbest animal on earth is man. or better said, the cruelest. We have lost our way and consume earth like it will never end. sorry - to preachy.

[AngryPirateProd]

We're not cruel, we are just very comfortable with things we can't see. If we don't see how they treat cows chickens and pigs, then we don't really care.

[okiedragonlady2]

Not all humans are cruel and not all humans don't care. It is one thing when humans have no clue that animals they consume are being mistreated and they don't know it . Who works on a farm any more? And not all farms treat their animals badly. Hopefully when one learns there is something wrong, they work to change it. Cows becoming frightened just before death have adrenelin rush and it makes the meat taste bad too.

[AngryPirateProd]

I wasn't trying to speak in absolutes. Of course there are humans that care about these things. I was just commenting on why people might stand for such things.

[okiedragonlady2]

Then you would also agree that some humans are cruel - who really don't care how animals are treated and don't mind poking and prodding cows covered in shit up shoots or drug by their necks or a single hind leg into slaughter houses because that's their job and they are used to it. I don't think you are cruel but cruelty happens - to animals, to humans - to our planet. Even animals can be cruel and torture one another ex: sparrows kill bluebirds babes for nest. Killing to eat is not cruel imo

[AngryPirateProd]

I completely agree.

[xxsqwigglztheemoxx]

Humans are the only animals that feel sorry for the animals they eat. Can you see a pride of lions going"vegan" because they want to save the antelope's feelings? Meat eater, non meat eater, complete vegan, fine. I have no problem with that. I have a cousin who hasn't eaten meat or eggs in over 10 years. Love her to pieces. My point is, God put meat on this earth to nourish our bodies. It's a gift and a blessing. All part of His Big Plan. Don't feel guilt for partaking in His blessings.

[cobaltredux]

That may be, but would God want His creations packed into filthy, cramped meat raising facilities? The lions and the antelopes run free--they both enjoy autonomy, the natural environment. I can't claim to be an expert on God, but something tells me that He wouldn't appreciate the amount of disrespect we give to the animals we raise for meat.

I don't think I could go vegan--that takes a will that I lack--but I would buy organic/free range meat. To my knowledge, it's the best compromise.

[okiedragonlady2]

I just watched this video on Ed TV last night - I cried so hard regarding Liza and I have had chickens and right now I am raising my baby turkeys - so I can breed and eat my own meat and I will tell you I will love my turkeys and pet them and feed them and honor them with a good home and let them raise a family and live as a good turkey should live until I cull the toms for a meal here and there. No God never expected us humans to be cruel to animals - They love as intimately as human's do.

[mzdaan]

best line: "i tried to interpret the expression i saw come over her."

[orionluckystar]

I can't believe that idiot just sat there and watched while a hawk attacked his chickens. Poor Liza was lucky to have survived. If a hawk comes after my chickens, I am running as fast as I can to save them, not sitting there and watching like some sort of a heartless moron.

[lannahoe]

Very Poignant

[bigsby48]

Great watch. Some parts made us cry, others made us laugh, and it gets the message across well. Chickens, cats, dogs, etc. cannot be said to objectively have different value. People who still eat them after watching this video are emotionally retarded.

[reshpeck]

Yes, I am emotionally retarded. Thank you for informing me. What other things may we disagree on that will illustrate my deficiencies?

[wardlemike]

So is a hawk emotionally retarded? You would probably say "no" because a hawk is a "lower animal" and we can choose whether or not to eat a chicken. But then that would mean you are giving hawks and humans a different value. The hawk knows its place in the world, perhaps you can forgive chicken-eaters for knowing theirs, as well. I am ashamed of the treatment chickens receive in the modern food industry, but I have no philosophical objections to the actual act of eating a chicken.

[mzdaan]

chicken. yum.

[randombutler]

An entertaining and well-balanced documentary!

[longfootbuddy]

@randombutler yes, balanced with awww and bleh

[veganwitch]

How can anyone kill and eat a chicken? Seriously... they aren't here for us to eat.

[DerivativesWTF]

yes they are for us to eat. their whole purpose in life is for us to eat them and breed them and use them. you sound like a whiny crybaby. Go nibble on some greens and leave us mature adults alone to watch a fun movie

[okiedragonlady2]

Do you grow a garden? Cuz plants have feelings too.

[flamingdeath1]

Yay awesome documentary!

[ndy79]

Great Video!! :D

How you re-created the story in that last segment baffles me.

Thanks for sharing.