I am the Hessian NCO in the video, I know the song is from several years after the revolution, but it is still the 18th century and the tune is familiar to everyone. Most of the soldiers don't speak German so we are limited. One should strive to use the language of the unit one portrays. If we hadn't been singing in German this gentlemen might not have even have filmed us. There is a video of three of our enthused singers, singing Prinz Eugen, listed in YouTube as Hessian Christmas Carol.
also, hessen is a south-middle german state, at the time most german states didnt listen to the kaiser of HRE, thats why it was abolished by napoleon not long after.
they're not. they are singing a song for the Holy Roman empire. bear in mind, the Holy Roman Empire still existed in 1775-1783 and Hesse Kassel was still an electorate within that empire. the emperor mentioned being Franz I (r. 1745-1765)
of course, in practice, though it was an electorate, it didn't really have to answer to the Austrians (in fact, in the SYW, they fought against Austria). in fact, the SYW split what is now Germany apart.
ok.. care to at least say why? I was just saying that Hesse was part of the Holy Roman Empire. as far as I know, that's not incorrect. and in a later comment, I do admit that the song is anachronistic. (in a reply to TarEldamir).
@Albukhshi Simply because the holy roman empire wasn't a state compared to others in the world. The Kaiser (emperor) of the HRE has as good as no power at all in germany. Ok, Austria was a big deal back then but hesse (not even Hesse existed back then) couldn't care less about that.
And the hymn was dedicated to Kaiser FRANZ II and AUSTRIA-HUNGARY and not the HRE.
I am well aware of the HRE's nature: it is why I pointed out that in practice Hesse didn't even have answer to the Emperor (you can see my comment again). again, I didn't say anything wrong in that regard.
and yes, I know about the second part: I mentioned to you where I admit it is anachronistic. my comment really was just to show why, at first sight, it would make some sense it would be sung (even though it is wrong, and was known to be wrong-the implication of Hesse not answering to the HRE)
since at the time, as you know, the Emperor of Austria was (normally) Kaiser of the HRE.
so in short: perhaps my comments were not sufficiently clear: if so, I apologize for confusing anyone, and hope I have now clarified what I really meant.
PS: to clarify my first reply: being sung by the reenactors, not the original soldiers. the quality of research among reenactors isn't always perfect.
and yeah, I know it was really written in 1797, for Franz II. I've known it for years.
i know some of them hessians buddy and believe me theyd run as bayonet right through u, theyre some of the best disciplined reenactors i know (besides my regiment)
there are simply no people better than fuerstentreue Prussians!
77hessian 3 months ago
I am the Hessian NCO in the video, I know the song is from several years after the revolution, but it is still the 18th century and the tune is familiar to everyone. Most of the soldiers don't speak German so we are limited. One should strive to use the language of the unit one portrays. If we hadn't been singing in German this gentlemen might not have even have filmed us. There is a video of three of our enthused singers, singing Prinz Eugen, listed in YouTube as Hessian Christmas Carol.
77hessian 4 months ago
@77hessian Time for German music lessons for the troops. You and my Prussian mom can give lessons.
gingercatcrafts 3 months ago
also, hessen is a south-middle german state, at the time most german states didnt listen to the kaiser of HRE, thats why it was abolished by napoleon not long after.
SuperTravis898 4 months ago
As I am aware this music was composed by the Austrian Franz Josef Haydn?
saxcoburg 11 months ago
this is bollocks
opelcity 1 year ago
why they are singing the Austro-Hungary Anthem???
beni1934 1 year ago
@beni1934
they're not. they are singing a song for the Holy Roman empire. bear in mind, the Holy Roman Empire still existed in 1775-1783 and Hesse Kassel was still an electorate within that empire. the emperor mentioned being Franz I (r. 1745-1765)
of course, in practice, though it was an electorate, it didn't really have to answer to the Austrians (in fact, in the SYW, they fought against Austria). in fact, the SYW split what is now Germany apart.
Albukhshi 1 year ago
@Albukhshi Too bad that "Gott erhalte Franz den Kaiser" didn't exist before 1797, though.
TarEldamir 7 months ago
@TarEldamir
well, yeah XD
Albukhshi 7 months ago
@Albukhshi You're just dumb as fuck.
1812over2 6 months ago
@1812over2
ok.. care to at least say why? I was just saying that Hesse was part of the Holy Roman Empire. as far as I know, that's not incorrect. and in a later comment, I do admit that the song is anachronistic. (in a reply to TarEldamir).
Albukhshi 6 months ago
@Albukhshi Simply because the holy roman empire wasn't a state compared to others in the world. The Kaiser (emperor) of the HRE has as good as no power at all in germany. Ok, Austria was a big deal back then but hesse (not even Hesse existed back then) couldn't care less about that.
And the hymn was dedicated to Kaiser FRANZ II and AUSTRIA-HUNGARY and not the HRE.
1812over2 6 months ago
I am well aware of the HRE's nature: it is why I pointed out that in practice Hesse didn't even have answer to the Emperor (you can see my comment again). again, I didn't say anything wrong in that regard.
and yes, I know about the second part: I mentioned to you where I admit it is anachronistic. my comment really was just to show why, at first sight, it would make some sense it would be sung (even though it is wrong, and was known to be wrong-the implication of Hesse not answering to the HRE)
Albukhshi 6 months ago
@1812over2
cont.
since at the time, as you know, the Emperor of Austria was (normally) Kaiser of the HRE.
so in short: perhaps my comments were not sufficiently clear: if so, I apologize for confusing anyone, and hope I have now clarified what I really meant.
PS: to clarify my first reply: being sung by the reenactors, not the original soldiers. the quality of research among reenactors isn't always perfect.
and yeah, I know it was really written in 1797, for Franz II. I've known it for years.
Albukhshi 6 months ago
terrible accent !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
v3rl3ihnix 1 year ago
xD mein gott in der ersten reihe sind wohl die menschlichen schilder um so dicker um so sicherer für die 2 reihe xD
xXiceghostXx 2 years ago 6
@xXiceghostXx
*lol*
v3rl3ihnix 1 year ago
@xXiceghostXx das sind keine menschlichen Schilde - das sind schon fast Panzersperren
v3rl3ihnix 1 year ago
of all germans the hessians have the worst accent XD haha
watzman123321123321 2 years ago
@watzman123321123321 no the sachsen
die sachsen
lowari 1 year ago
@lowari ja man die auch ^^
watzman123321123321 1 year ago
I cant imagine seeing a Revolution reenactment in California.
Just doesn't fit, you know?
Anyhow, these reenactors seem to do a good job though.
SeeYouNextFall 2 years ago
whats with the fat hessian?? the Hessians were respected and well disaplined soldiers not fat!!!
randy224455 2 years ago 5
i know some of them hessians buddy and believe me theyd run as bayonet right through u, theyre some of the best disciplined reenactors i know (besides my regiment)
2ndpadrummer 2 years ago
@randy224455 .......far from respected. Learn your history Randy.
DamianNixon 1 year ago
@randy224455 He is an actor not a REAL Hessian lol
leegeorgeson 7 months ago
The Kaiserlied, which is song by the Hessians, was created 1796.
The battle took place 1779.
Still the video is good.
moep 2 years ago
Is there a reaso for them singing something which is definately nothing 18th c.? The Pronounciation is good however.
LutzDerLurch 2 years ago
That was a damnably fun event. I don't suppose you've got more videos from the battle?
killcavlry 2 years ago
It starts off in the Black, just wait 5 sec.
fusilierRWF23rd 2 years ago